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Illfavor
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 11:12pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Good job! Keep it up.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 10:31am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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start off with a couple of the losing hands. Pleased in a way with not stacking off on this but can't help wondering whether a smaller river bet or checking behind would have been a better line to take.
Interesting that he called the river bet when flush draws could have completed. The line I took on the river was bet fold fully expecting flushes to reraise me but hoping to take the pot there and then. I think check behind would have been the less spewy option though I'd never have known if he'd folded to the bet.

villain was 54/23

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG IenVanHuyt ($9.00)
UTG+1 Wilzyx78 ($11.75)
CO Hero ($11.30)
BTN hectorrey ($16.40)
SB JesseBos ($17.20)
BB IIIlll ($10.00)
[IenVanHuyt posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.25, 6 players) Hero is CO Ace of Hearts King of Diamonds
IenVanHuyt checks, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, IIIlll calls $0.40, IenVanHuyt folds

Flop: Six of Hearts Seven of Spades Nine of Hearts ($1.15, 2 players)
IIIlll checks, Hero checks

Turn: King of Clubs ($1.15, 2 players)
IIIlll checks, Hero bets $0.80, IIIlll calls $0.80

River: Jack of Hearts ($2.75, 2 players)
IIIlll checks, Hero bets $2.50, IIIlll calls $2.50

Final Pot: $7.75
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts King of Diamonds
IIIlll shows: King of Spades Jack of Spades

IIIlll wins $7.40 ( won +$3.60 )
Hero lost -$3.80
IenVanHuyt lost -$0.10

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some pure spew against a 86/10 over 23 hands . they ain't gonna fold so should have checked down with air. I doubt he had anything either in hindsight but it was early playing against him.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG JoeDeertay ($11.80)
CO Billboy77 ($3.00)
BTN Hero ($16.80)
SB jerito31 ($6.80)
BB hectorrey ($15.50)
[Billboy77 posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.25, 5 players) Hero is BTN Jack of Spades Ace of Clubs
1 fold, Billboy77 checks, Hero raises to $0.40, jerito31 calls $0.35, 1 fold, Billboy77 folds

Flop: Three of Hearts Four of Hearts Nine of Diamonds ($1, 2 players)
jerito31 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: King of Spades ($2, 2 players)
jerito31 checks, Hero bets $1.60, jerito31 goes all-in $5.90, Hero folds

Final Pot: $5.20

jerito31 wins $9.25 ( won +$2.45 )
Billboy77 lost -$0.10
Hero lost -$2.50

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hit set get paid . Villain was same as first hand posted so got my money back

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($18.60)
UTG+1 hectorrey ($17.20)
CO JesseBos ($20.50)
BTN IIIlll ($9.95)
SB pokerhottie5 ($10.05)
BB tom_arn ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG Queen of Clubs Queen of Hearts
Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, IIIlll calls $0.50, pokerhottie5 calls $0.45, 1 fold

Flop: Eight of Spades Queen of Diamonds Nine of Spades ($1.60, 3 players)
pokerhottie5 checks, Hero bets $0.80, IIIlll calls $0.80, pokerhottie5 folds

Turn: Nine of Hearts ($3.20, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, IIIlll calls $1.50

River: Jack of Spades ($6.20, 2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, IIIlll goes all-in $7.15

Final Pot: $20.50
Hero shows: Queen of Clubs Queen of Hearts
IIIlll shows: King of Clubs King of Diamonds

Hero wins $20.85 ( won +$9.55 )
IIIlll lost -$9.95
pokerhottie5 lost -$0.50

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maybe I was a bit to aggressive here. Thought I had Ax and PPs beat apart from any sets hit.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG jabrit ($9.10)
UTG+1 Hero ($10.00)
CO hectorrey ($17.85)
BTN JesseBos ($19.60)
SB IIIlll ($8.75)
BB IenVanHuyt ($8.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 King of Spades Ace of Hearts
jabrit raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, 4 folds, jabrit calls $1

Flop: Seven of Clubs Five of Diamonds Ace of Diamonds ($2.75, 2 players)
jabrit bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.70, jabrit calls $1.20

Turn: Four of Spades ($6.15, 2 players)
jabrit checks, Hero goes all-in $7, jabrit goes all-in $6.10

River: Eight of Spades ($19.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $18.35
Hero shows: King of Spades Ace of Hearts
jabrit shows: Ace of Spades Jack of Clubs

Hero wins $18.35 ( won +$8.35 )
jabrit lost -$9.10

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this hand I can't decide if i played it well , could potentially have spewed , or played it horribly (though not as bad as villain).
villain was 23/20/4 over 54 hands. Was thinking that if I hit my diamond or possibly another Q or a K may be good when I called the 4$. With the nut flush draw on the flop should I have just shoved? as it was with the cards as they were I had 24% equity : against a range of 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,7d6d,65s,54s,43s,A9o+,KJo+ it was roughly a coin flip on the flop.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG JimMcJohnson ($19.05)
UTG+1 hectorrey ($24.75)
CO SeltoDurka ($10.00)
BTN fripotin ($10.00)
SB Hero ($10.95)
BB Curadon ($10.35)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB King of Diamonds Queen of Clubs
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Curadon calls $0.30

Flop: Three of Diamonds Ace of Diamonds Five of Diamonds ($0.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, Curadon raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: Queen of Hearts ($4.80, 2 players)
Hero checks, Curadon bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: Two of Diamonds ($12.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, Curadon calls $2.20

Final Pot: $17.20
Hero shows: King of Diamonds Queen of Clubs
Curadon shows: Six of Diamonds Seven of Diamonds

Hero wins $16.40 ( won +$7.80 )
Curadon lost -$8.60

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helps when the cards run good.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Bowdin ($4.85)
UTG+1 iamcake ($4.20)
CO modano_rox ($5.30)
BTN Hero ($11.80)
SB Hribouc ($12.00)
BB Filla033 ($5.95)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Hearts Ace of Hearts
Bowdin raises to $0.40, iamcake calls $0.40, modano_rox calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Bowdin calls $1.10, iamcake calls $1.10, modano_rox folds

Flop: Queen of Spades Three of Spades Five of Clubs ($5.05, 3 players)
Bowdin checks, iamcake bets $2.20, Hero raises to $4.40, Bowdin folds, iamcake goes all-in $0.50

Turn: Four of Clubs ($12.15, 2 players)

River: Five of Diamonds ($12.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.45
iamcake shows: Queen of Clubs Jack of Diamonds
Hero shows: Queen of Hearts Ace of Hearts

Hero wins $11.65 ( won +$5.75 )
Bowdin lost -$1.50
iamcake lost -$4.20
modano_rox lost -$0.40

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this was against he 86/10 again and he had tilted after i already beat him once and was shoving all in a lot.$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG JoeDeertay ($12.65)
CO soke2 ($8.60)
BTN Hero ($11.85)
SB jerito31 ($5.55)
BB hectorrey ($15.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN King of Clubs Ace of Diamonds
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, jerito31 calls $0.45, 1 fold

Flop: Five of Spades King of Spades Nine of Spades ($1.10, 2 players)
jerito31 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $5.30, jerito31 goes all-in $4.55

Turn: Four of Diamonds ($11.45, 2 players)

River: Two of Clubs ($11.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $11.20
Hero shows: King of Clubs Ace of Diamonds
jerito31 shows: King of Diamonds Queen of Spades

Hero wins $10.90 ( won +$5.10 )
jerito31 lost -$5.55

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I think that I got decent value out of this hand. checked the river just in case he was on a AK AQ type hand. I don't thoink he'd have called a river bet .$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Bowdin ($4.90)
UTG+1 ClakeDanYeul ($7.75)
CO modano_rox ($11.75)
BTN Hero ($14.55)
SB Hribouc ($10.95)
BB Filla033 ($8.30)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Ace of Hearts Jack of Diamonds
1 fold, ClakeDanYeul calls $0.10, modano_rox calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Filla033 calls $0.50, ClakeDanYeul calls $0.50, modano_rox folds

Flop: Six of Diamonds Queen of Diamonds Ace of Clubs ($1.95, 3 players)
Filla033 checks, ClakeDanYeul checks, Hero bets $1.30, Filla033 folds, ClakeDanYeul calls $1.30

Turn: Two of Hearts ($4.55, 2 players)
ClakeDanYeul checks, Hero bets $2.70, ClakeDanYeul calls $2.70

River: King of Spades ($9.95, 2 players)
ClakeDanYeul checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $9.95
ClakeDanYeul shows: Seven of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts Jack of Diamonds

Hero wins $9.50 ( won +$4.90 )
ClakeDanYeul lost -$4.60
modano_rox lost -$0.10
Filla033 lost -$0.60

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this hand was just as I was closing the tables . It was the first time I've had the heart pounding anxiety as I was really worried about over sets and was so deep and could have turned a very good session into a mediocre one $ wise.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($28.20)
CO Hribouc ($12.20)
BTN PISCIS2202 ($7.20)
SB pokerhottie5 ($12.60)
BB borniepoker ($19.35)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG Two of Diamonds Two of Clubs
Hero raises to $0.30, Hribouc calls $0.30, PISCIS2202 calls $0.30, 1 fold, borniepoker calls $0.20

Flop: Nine of Spades Two of Hearts Three of Diamonds ($1.25, 4 players)
borniepoker checks, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, borniepoker raises to $3, Hero raises to $8.90, borniepoker goes all-in $19.05, Hero calls $10.15

Turn: Four of Diamonds ($39.35, 2 players)

River: Seven of Clubs ($39.35, 2 players)

Final Pot: $39.35
Hero shows: Two of Diamonds Two of Clubs
borniepoker shows: Ace of Clubs Nine of Hearts

Hero wins $37.40 ( won +$18.05 )
Hribouc lost -$0.30
PISCIS2202 lost -$0.30
borniepoker lost -$19.35

felt bad about cutting and running so played another orbit . Play on villains part was questionable .I could easily have been on an over pair or better on the flop and therefore they as far as they could tell they were potentially just on 5 outs or less.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 11:00am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hey gl with your Operation I'm just going to comment on the hands you posted.

1. Fine, I probably bet river too, he's going to call with a host of Kx hands that you beat.

2. In hand 1 you have a poster and make it 5x, here you make it 4x?
Flop is bad, turn is ok if that's what you planned to do on flop. But vs fish its pretty bad all round.

3. No poster and you 5x it. With these three hands I now presume you 5x AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK type hands and 4x the rest - exploitable if someone is paying attention. Bet more on flop too drawy - more like $1.20. Bet slightly more on tuirn to set you up a less thyan PSB shove, say $2.30. If he's drawing it's still likley he'll call.

4. Raise more on flop - look atthe pot size, not his bet. I'd raise to somewhere around $2.70 and call it off or shove turn.

5. meh, i could see c/c flop or b/c flop sometimes. Thing is your implied isn't great as people are rarely goignt o be calling big bets when the 4th diamond comes unless they have Qd or something. or they are retarded. Turn is pretty bad imo and considering you c/c $4 on turn you need to make significantly mor eon the river to compensate for the lack of pot odds on the turn. And given the fact the board is goign to be 4flushed it's goign to be hard to get paid if you make a significant bet.

6. Depends how loose the UTG opener is, but sometimes I'm not a great fan of squeezing here - esp if UTG is tight froom UTG. If he's fairly loose then sure squeezing is fine - but you need to look atthe reasons, not just LOL AQs SQUEEEEZE. You're 3b size is too small also with 3 in the pot already.

7. Fine if you think he calls it off with Kx or Asx. I probably just make it 1.70 and calla shove or get it in on a safe turn.

8. I'd bet river, to get value from worse Ax and Qx type hands it's also possible that Kxdd rivered a pair. It's unlikley he has a set/AQ/AK with combinatronics and the fact he only limp/called preflop and didnt raise any street. I would also make my turn bet slightly larger say $3/$3.20.

9. 3x UTG wat - sort out some consistency with your open sizes from all positions no matter what your cards. The flop is pretty drawless so I might just call the flop raise and get in in on the turn. It's pretty unlikey you've been oversetted and reatrds will get it in here with TT and sometime raise hands like 66/77. So I wouldn't want them to fold to a shove, coz ur shoving range will prob be llike QQ+/sets on this dry flop. Villain was obv retarded to getting it in here.
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Keith_MM
Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 4:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hey Muzz thanks for the feedback . Generally tend to open 4BB +1 per limper except Btn when its 3BB + 1per limper.

Muzzard wrote:

2. In hand 1 you have a poster and make it 5x, here you make it 4x?
Flop is bad, turn is ok if that's what you planned to do on flop. But vs fish its pretty bad all round.
Have top admit in hindsight it was cringworthy , no point in just posting the good stuff , the mistakes are where I should be learning the most.
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3. No poster and you 5x it. With these three hands I now presume you 5x AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK type hands and 4x the rest - exploitable if someone is paying attention. Bet more on flop too drawy - more like $1.20. Bet slightly more on tuirn to set you up a less thyan PSB shove, say $2.30. If he's drawing it's still likley he'll call.

bit of experimentation to try and thin the field a bit with QQ. Flop I was trying to keep callers in to build the pot. Same on the turn . Things I didn't consider were what happens on A or K on the river and up against overpairs.I thought KK and AA would have 3bet pre or raised on the flop though. They could just have been letting me do the betting for them though.
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4. Raise more on flop - look atthe pot size, not his bet. I'd raise to somewhere around $2.70 and call it off or shove turn.

5. meh, i could see c/c flop or b/c flop sometimes. Thing is your implied isn't great as people are rarely goignt o be calling big bets when the 4th diamond comes unless they have Qd or something. or they are retarded. Turn is pretty bad imo and considering you c/c $4 on turn you need to make significantly mor eon the river to compensate for the lack of pot odds on the turn. And given the fact the board is goign to be 4flushed it's goign to be hard to get paid if you make a significant bet.

6. Depends how loose the UTG opener is, but sometimes I'm not a great fan of squeezing here - esp if UTG is tight froom UTG. If he's fairly loose then sure squeezing is fine - but you need to look atthe reasons, not just LOL AQs SQUEEEEZE. You're 3b size is too small also with 3 in the pot already.

I was trying to thin the field and possibly take down a nice pot there and then. Had no idea how big my 3 bet should be though, Posted a thread about a situation like this in BC where I went 1.70 and was told 1.70 was too big and that 1$ would have been a better size . THink I had AA then though.
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7. Fine if you think he calls it off with Kx or Asx. I probably just make it 1.70 and calla shove or get it in on a safe turn.

he was so tilted I think if i'd bet .40 he'd probably have shoved.

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8. I'd bet river, to get value from worse Ax and Qx type hands it's also possible that Kxdd rivered a pair. It's unlikley he has a set/AQ/AK with combinatronics and the fact he only limp/called preflop and didnt raise any street. I would also make my turn bet slightly larger say $3/$3.20.

9. 3x UTG wat - sort out some consistency with your open sizes from all positions no matter what your cards. The flop is pretty drawless so I might just call the flop raise and get in in on the turn. It's pretty unlikey you've been oversetted and reatrds will get it in here with TT and sometime raise hands like 66/77. So I wouldn't want them to fold to a shove, coz ur shoving range will prob be llike QQ+/sets on this dry flop. Villain was obv retarded to getting it in here.

I was on my way outta there . it was literally last hand I was going to play and had already shut down all the other tables . I was expecting to get reraised and then try and decide whether i had set odds to call. raising smaller seems to get a smaller 3bet which could help preserve my set odds. No doubt i'll have to sort this out when i move up but it seems to work down here at 10nl.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 5:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Have top admit in hindsight it was cringworthy , no point in just posting the good stuff , the mistakes are where I should be learning the most.



+1
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bit of experimentation to try and thin the field a bit with QQ. Flop I was trying to keep callers in to build the pot. Same on the turn . Things I didn't consider were what happens on A or K on the river and up against overpairs.I thought KK and AA would have 3bet pre or raised on the flop though. They could just have been letting me do the betting for them though.


Just keep something consistent pre, esp when you start moving up. True you want callers but FD's and staright draws aren't folding to a bigger flop bet. You can make the turn a smaller proportion due to the fact you've just nutted the board and you want to keep the draws in. However, you don't want it to be that you have to overshove the river when you could have made it a 2/3 river shove.

Pretty bad play from KK/AA whatever he had anyway.

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I was trying to thin the field and possibly take down a nice pot there and then. Had no idea how big my 3 bet should be though, Posted a thread about a situation like this in BC where I went 1.70 and was told 1.70 was too big and that 1$ would have been a better size . THink I had AA then though.


Yes, but we have to think about UTG, how strong his opens from UTG are and how often he folds a to three bets and what range he'll continue/4bet with. Anyway, the bet is too small pre - In the AA hand you talk about it was minraised not 4x-ed so there was less money in the pot when you did 3bet.

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he was so tilted I think if i'd bet .40 he'd probably have shoved.


Ok, but what if he had like Asx and you just gave him a nice price to draw. Just raise it up try to get it in. We need to value bet the crap out of ppl at 10nl. That's how we win moneis.

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I was on my way outta there . it was literally last hand I was going to play and had already shut down all the other tables . I was expecting to get reraised and then try and decide whether i had set odds to call. raising smaller seems to get a smaller 3bet which could help preserve my set odds. No doubt i'll have to sort this out when i move up but it seems to work down here at 10nl.


You shoudln't really be calling 3bets to set mine OOP with marginal implied odds.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 8:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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the heater continues : finished the night up $26.40 with the bank roll on $502.38 which is one hell of a comeback considering that on saturday or was it sunday the roll dipped to about $386 briefly . It could have been soo much better if it wasn't for this cooler towards the end of the night.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($21.50)
UTG+1 dannyrose666 ($5.70)56/19/5.5 34 hands
CO Rupert787 ($8.60) 44/0/1.6 16 hands
BTN Mari�«tteQ ($10.00) 12/10/2.5 158 hands
SB wwillyss ($5.05) 23/5/1.4 398 hands
BB Anti_Obama65 ($11.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG Ace of Clubs Queen of Clubs
Hero raises to $0.40, dannyrose666 calls $0.40, Rupert787 calls $0.40, Mari�«tteQ calls $0.40, wwillyss calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Ten of Clubs Jack of Diamonds King of Hearts ($2.10, 5 players)
wwillyss checks, Hero bets $0.70, dannyrose666 calls $0.70, Rupert787 raises to $1.40, 1 fold, wwillyss calls $1.40, Hero raises to $4.50, dannyrose666 folds, Rupert787 goes all-in $8.20, wwillyss goes all-in $3.25, Hero calls $3.70

Turn: Eight of Hearts ($23.85, 3 players)

River: King of Diamonds ($23.85, 3 players)

Final Pot: $23.85
Hero shows: Ace of Clubs Queen of Clubs
Rupert787 shows: Jack of Clubs King of Clubs
wwillyss shows: Ace of Hearts Ten of Spades

Rupert787 wins $22.70 ( won +$14.10 )
Hero lost -$8.60
dannyrose666 lost -$1.10
Mari�«tteQ lost -$0.40
wwillyss lost -$5.05


oh well he had 4 outs and i got the money in good.

will post the rest of the hands tomorrow but was generally happy with my play.
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Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 6:39am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Congrats on the recovery dude, much deserved. See you at the tables soon no doubt.
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Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 2:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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as usual start with the losses
villain was 50/7/3 and I thought was on a smaller pocket pair and when the river came I thought i had his low pair crushed even if he had hit his set. Didn't figure the flush would have hung around that long.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO stickemup81 ($10.30)
BTN Hero ($14.75)
SB MaxiMax0307 ($3.60)
BB wwillyss ($4.75)
[stickemup81 posted $0.15]

Pre-flop: ($0.30, 4 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Spades Ten of Diamonds
stickemup81 checks, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, stickemup81 calls $0.30

Flop: Four of Spades Queen of Hearts Two of Clubs ($1, 2 players)
stickemup81 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: Six of Clubs ($2.20, 2 players)
stickemup81 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: Queen of Clubs ($4.20, 2 players)
stickemup81 bets $2.50, Hero raises to $8.70, stickemup81 goes all-in $5.75

Final Pot: $20.70
stickemup81 shows: Seven of Clubs Five of Clubs
Hero shows: Queen of Spades Ten of Diamonds

stickemup81 wins $19.70 ( won +$9.40 )
Hero wins $0.45 ( lost -$10.25 )

----------------------------------------------------------------
hand of complete spew against a complete fishy 75 /14. Guess whos the biggest fish here though thinking my hand wwas well ahead of his range.$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG BiggoDicko ($9.30)
UTG+1 Hero ($16.65)
CO didi6699 ($5.70)
BTN Batalla7 ($11.10)
SB eusee ($10.00)
BB Carodame ($8.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Queen of Diamonds King of Diamonds
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, didi6699 raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.10

Flop: Five of Diamonds Jack of Clubs Five of Spades ($3.15, 2 players)
Hero checks, didi6699 goes all-in $4.20, Hero calls $4.20

Turn: Six of Spades ($11.55, 2 players)

River: Seven of Diamonds ($11.55, 2 players)

Final Pot: $11.55
Hero shows: Queen of Diamonds King of Diamonds
didi6699 shows: Ace of Spades Ace of Hearts

didi6699 wins $11 ( won +$5.30 )
Hero lost -$5.70
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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG QuailDaddy17 ($2.30)
CO Hero ($21.55)
BTN catje pronk ($4.95)
SB Marcio-Milet ($3.40)
BB BoFu25 ($14.35)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO Nine of Hearts Nine of Clubs
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, catje pronk calls $0.40, Marcio-Milet calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Nine of Spades Two of Diamonds Seven of Spades ($1.30, 3 players)
Marcio-Milet checks, Hero bets $0.70, catje pronk calls $0.70, Marcio-Milet folds

Turn: Queen of Spades ($2.70, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, catje pronk goes all-in $3.85, Hero ???




This was against a 36/20/1 . I've seen her check call down a K3s flopped flush draw that missed and go all in on a TPTK hand on the turn. This is a hand i really need to work some maths on . I hit my set and turn bet is reraised when a flush came in. I took that to mean that she had the flush......could just have had a strong flush draw or possibly even paired the Queen. need to work out whether it would pay to stay in and see if I can boat up.
11 cards for boat on river so 11/46 so 23% of hitting boat on the river.
I would be calling 2.85 to win a pot of 10.40 or 27.4 which would be tight fold unless we factor in some Qx hands.
or should i be calculating putting 2.85 in to win the 7.55 already in the pot 37% easy fold.

Is it reasonable to factor in any TPTK type hands here , but I don't think she'd have reraised her flush draws from the way she played the other hands : variation of hand I posted in BC.

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ok so very rarely aces get me paid

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG DinDinh78 ($14.65)
CO Taliza ($22.95)
BTN v1nc0 ($9.85)
SB rakeIT33 ($20.80)
BB Hero ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB Ace of Hearts Ace of Clubs
DinDinh78 calls $0.10, Taliza raises to $0.40, 1 fold, rakeIT33 raises to $1.10, Hero goes all-in $10, DinDinh78 folds, Taliza folds, rakeIT33 calls $8.90

Flop: Eight of Hearts Nine of Spades Eight of Diamonds ($20.50, 2 players)

Turn: Five of Clubs ($20.50, 2 players)

River: Nine of Diamonds ($20.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.50
rakeIT33 shows: Queen of Clubs Queen of Spades
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts Ace of Clubs

Hero wins $19.50 ( won +$9.50 )
rakeIT33 lost -$10
DinDinh78 lost -$0.10
Taliza lost -$0.40

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this could have turned into horrible spew
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG licuado ($9.85)
UTG+1 wwillyss ($7.60)
CO pkrecloser ($1.25)
BTN chiprake ($5.45)
SB gatoratbama ($9.40)
BB Hero ($11.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Jack of Clubs Ten of Clubs
licuado raises to $0.40, 2 folds, chiprake calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: Nine of Spades Queen of Diamonds King of Spades ($1.25, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.90, licuado calls $0.90, chiprake folds

Turn: Six of Spades ($3.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $9.60, licuado goes all-in $8.55

River: King of Diamonds ($21.20, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.15
licuado shows: Ace of Hearts Ace of Spades
Hero shows: Jack of Clubs Ten of Clubs

Hero wins $20.20 ( won +$9.30 )
licuado lost -$9.85
chiprake lost -$0.40

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erm this could have as well
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG sampon ($12.15)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN karadok1 ($9.95)
SB Typhoonish ($17.60)
BB Oldos ($10.65)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO Queen of Diamonds Ace of Hearts
sampon raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, 3 folds, sampon calls $0.90

Flop: Ten of Spades Queen of Clubs Four of Diamonds ($2.75, 2 players)
sampon checks, Hero bets $1.90, sampon raises to $5.10, Hero calls $3.20

Turn: Nine of Diamonds ($12.95, 2 players)
sampon goes all-in $5.75, Hero goes all-in $3.60

River: Seven of Spades ($22.30, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.15
sampon shows: Ace of Clubs King of Spades
Hero shows: Queen of Diamonds Ace of Hearts

sampon wins $2.15 ( lost -$10.00 )
Hero wins $19.20 ( won +$9.20 )

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Had to think about this one a long time . but ditto could easily have spewed

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Mari�«tteQ ($10.00)
UTG+1 silks91 ($13.70)
CO Anti_Obama65 ($10.15)
BTN Hero ($11.40)
SB Normandy92 ($19.20)
BB OasisAA ($7.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Seven of Diamonds Seven of Spades
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Normandy92 calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Six of Clubs Seven of Hearts Ace of Hearts ($0.90, 2 players)
Normandy92 checks, Hero bets $0.60, Normandy92 calls $0.60

Turn: Five of Spades ($2.10, 2 players)
Normandy92 checks, Hero bets $1.80, Normandy92 calls $1.80

River: Four of Diamonds ($5.70, 2 players)
Normandy92 bets $5, Hero calls $5

Final Pot: $15.70
Hero shows: Seven of Diamonds Seven of Spades
Normandy92 shows: Six of Diamonds Nine of Clubs

Hero wins $14.95 ( won +$7.15 )
Normandy92 lost -$7.80

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Was worried about the flush here but thought i was getting decent price on the river off the flush draws that missed but didn't want to donk off too much to flushs that had made it.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Ichmarci ($3.10)
CO Hero ($10.55)
BTN caprychez ($2.40)
SB LaAcade7 ($10.00)
BB Troa balles ($4.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO Ace of Diamonds Jack of Spades
Ichmarci calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, LaAcade7 calls $0.45, Troa balles calls $0.40, Ichmarci calls $0.40

Flop: Queen of Clubs Six of Spades Ten of Spades ($2, 4 players)
LaAcade7 checks, Troa balles bets $0.50, Ichmarci calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, LaAcade7 calls $0.50

Turn: Three of Spades ($4, 4 players)
LaAcade7 checks, Troa balles checks, Ichmarci checks, Hero checks

River: King of Hearts ($4, 4 players)
LaAcade7 bets $1.20, Troa balles calls $1.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.20

Final Pot: $7.60
LaAcade7 shows: Nine of Spades Jack of Diamonds
Troa balles shows: Queen of Hearts King of Diamonds
Hero shows: Ace of Diamonds Jack of Spades

Hero wins $7.25 ( won +$5.05 )
LaAcade7 lost -$2.20
Troa balles lost -$2.20
Ichmarci lost -$1


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pretty standard vs a shortie.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG joe bluffit ($26.05)
UTG+1 dench28 ($12.00)
CO Hero ($12.05)
BTN kaizer1981 ($9.95)
SB jolubere ($3.75)
BB urbansprawle ($12.40)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Queen of Spades Queen of Clubs
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, jolubere goes all-in $3.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.35

Flop: Jack of Diamonds Four of Diamonds Five of Clubs ($7.60, 2 players)

Turn: Two of Diamonds ($7.60, 2 players)

River: Jack of Hearts ($7.60, 2 players)

Final Pot: $7.60
jolubere shows: Six of Clubs Six of Hearts
Hero shows: Queen of Spades Queen of Clubs

Hero wins $7.25 ( won +$3.50 )
jolubere lost -$3.75

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I think that this was an outrageous river bet on my part and I was surpised when he called. When I saw what he had I couldn't believe how badly he played it.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG didi6699 ($8.30)
UTG+1 Batalla7 ($11.40)
CO eusee ($10.25)
BTN Carodame ($8.10)
SB BiggoDicko ($9.60)
BB Hero ($13.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Two of Hearts Jack of Hearts
didi6699 calls $0.10, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: Queen of Spades Five of Hearts Ace of Spades ($0.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, didi6699 bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: Two of Clubs ($0.45, 2 players)
Hero checks, didi6699 checks

River: Two of Diamonds ($0.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.60, didi6699 calls $3.60

Final Pot: $7.65
Hero shows: Two of Hearts Jack of Hearts
didi6699 shows: Five of Diamonds Queen of Hearts

Hero wins $7.30 ( won +$3.50 )
didi6699 lost -$3.80

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I do win some without going to showdown.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Peanutdaman ($7.70)
UTG+1 Hero ($17.10)
CO catje pronk ($10.65)
BTN Marcio-Milet ($3.40)
SB anto_ivey ($13.05)
BB Mayhem88888 ($4.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Ace of Clubs Queen of Hearts
1 fold, Marcio-Milet says "gg", Hero raises to $0.40, catje pronk calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: Queen of Spades Seven of Spades Five of Diamonds ($0.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, catje pronk calls $0.90

Turn: Seven of Clubs ($2.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, catje pronk calls $2.20

River: Three of Hearts ($7.15, 2 players)
Hero bets $5.20, catje pronk folds

Final Pot: $7.15

Hero wins $12 ( won +$3.30 )
catje pronk lost -$3.50
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Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 8:24pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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well .....jeepers .........a very rough session with bad beats left right and centre . Started right fom the beginning and was doing well to hold my head above water but in the end I just shut the tables down and admitted it wasn't my night tonight with a net loss of $43.09.

reminiscent of last night??
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG 44_OKP_44 ($10.00)
UTG+1 Kastelli ($13.05)
CO 03cuervito74 ($50.85)
BTN Hero ($14.85)
SB Rasmus681 ($3.40)
BB witi90 ($7.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Ten of Hearts King of Diamonds
44_OKP_44 raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, witi90 calls $0.30

Flop: Jack of Diamonds Ace of Spades Queen of Spades ($1.25, 3 players)
witi90 checks, 44_OKP_44 bets $0.80, Hero raises to $1.80, witi90 folds, 44_OKP_44 raises to $4, Hero raises to $7, 44_OKP_44 goes all-in $9.60, Hero calls $2.60

Turn: Queen of Hearts ($20.45, 2 players)

River: Ace of Clubs ($20.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.45
Hero shows: Ten of Hearts King of Diamonds
44_OKP_44 shows: Ace of Diamonds Queen of Clubs

44_OKP_44 wins $19.45 ( won +$9.45 )
Hero lost -$10
witi90 lost -$0.40

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Gotta remember that TPTK is NOT a stack off hand

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.65)
UTG+1 Charly1402 ($9.80)
CO Sleep Talk ($12.15)
BTN RWC74 ($3.65)
SB unKnownFelon ($10.90)
BB dobrzeee ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG Ace of Clubs Jack of Spades
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Sleep Talk calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: Three of Diamonds Two of Clubs Ten of Spades ($0.95, 2 players)
Hero checks, Sleep Talk bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: Jack of Diamonds ($1.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, Sleep Talk bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.10, Sleep Talk raises to $7, Hero calls $3.90

River: Queen of Clubs ($15.75, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $2.85, Sleep Talk calls $2.85

Final Pot: $21.45
Sleep Talk shows: Three of Hearts Three of Spades
Hero shows: Ace of Clubs Jack of Spades

Sleep Talk wins $20.45 ( won +$9.80 )
Hero lost -$10.65
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my obligatory lost stack getting AA in Bad.should have folded to the shove and way overvalued the flush draw .

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ahmet420 ($14.10)
UTG+1 Philipp_ger ($6.85)
CO Kastelli ($11.00)
BTN 03cuervito74 ($45.30)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB altanNo1 ($2.35)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB Ace of Spades Ace of Diamonds
ahmet420 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Kastelli raises to $0.40, 03cuervito74 calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, 1 fold, ahmet420 folds, Kastelli folds, 03cuervito74 calls $0.90

Flop: Two of Spades Six of Diamonds Nine of Spades ($3.20, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, 03cuervito74 calls $0.70

Turn: Five of Spades ($4.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, 03cuervito74 goes all-in $43.30, Hero goes all-in $6.80

River: Five of Clubs ($55.90, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.60
03cuervito74 shows: Four of Spades Ten of Spades
Hero shows: Ace of Spades Ace of Diamonds

03cuervito74 wins $54.90 ( won +$9.60 )
Kastelli lost -$0.40
Hero lost -$10
ahmet420 lost -$0.10

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remind me again about stacking off with top pair hands. Only hand this guy played . He very kindly cut and ran.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG TitoDGoutlaw ($4.35)
UTG+1 Peyote01 ($10.80)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN Charly1402 ($10.60)
SB LaAcade7 ($15.45)
BB JoeP1111 ($8.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO King of Clubs Queen of Clubs
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, LaAcade7 calls $0.35, JoeP1111 calls $0.30

Flop: Nine of Diamonds Ten of Clubs Queen of Spades ($1.20, 3 players)
LaAcade7 bets $0.40, JoeP1111 calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, LaAcade7 folds, JoeP1111 raises to $2.70, Hero calls $1.40

Turn: Nine of Hearts ($7, 2 players)
JoeP1111 goes all-in $5.45, Hero calls $5.45

River: Seven of Hearts ($17.90, 2 players)

Final Pot: $17.90
JoeP1111 shows: Jack of Spades King of Spades
Hero shows: King of Clubs Queen of Clubs

JoeP1111 wins $17.05 ( won +$8.50 )
LaAcade7 lost -$0.80
Hero lost -$8.55

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is this a common theme .....don't stack off with Top pair and 3 flush on the table ...theyre gonna have it a lot.


$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($13.40)
CO CrazyAndy27s ($10.10)
BTN pokergagnant ($20.25)
SB heresjohno ($13.95)
BB maratis ($7.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG Ten of Hearts Ace of Hearts
Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, heresjohno calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Eight of Diamonds Ace of Diamonds Four of Spades ($0.90, 2 players)
heresjohno bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: Nine of Hearts ($2.10, 2 players)
heresjohno bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

River: Queen of Diamonds ($4.70, 2 players)
heresjohno bets $6, Hero calls $6

Final Pot: $16.70
Hero shows: Ten of Hearts Ace of Hearts
heresjohno shows: Nine of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds

heresjohno wins $15.90 ( won +$7.60 )
Hero lost -$8.30

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what was it i said about 3 flush boards

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Troa balles ($4.00)
UTG+1 Rueben2000 ($9.80)
CO kingbonne ($2.55)
BTN Hero ($10.00)
SB mario-draco ($4.90)
BB IRLsucks ($32.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Four of Hearts Four of Spades
2 folds, kingbonne calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, mario-draco calls $0.35, IRLsucks calls $0.30, kingbonne calls $0.30

Flop: Eight of Clubs Four of Clubs Three of Clubs ($1.60, 4 players)
mario-draco checks, IRLsucks checks, kingbonne checks, Hero bets $1.20, mario-draco calls $1.20, IRLsucks folds, kingbonne folds

Turn: Five of Spades ($4, 2 players)
mario-draco checks, Hero bets $2.80, mario-draco goes all-in $3.30, Hero calls $0.50

River: Two of Hearts ($10.60, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.60
Hero shows: Four of Hearts Four of Spades
mario-draco shows: Queen of Clubs Ten of Clubs

mario-draco wins $10.10 ( won +$5.20 )
Hero lost -$4.90
IRLsucks lost -$0.40
kingbonne lost -$0.40

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completely fucked the turn here, can't help wondering whether I should just have shoved the turn. and then probably lost all the stack.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Preppy06 ($10.60)
CO wang770701 ($10.85)
BTN Hero ($10.30)
SB knoy ($17.45)
BB Mr.Mo 66 ($6.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN King of Diamonds King of Hearts
Preppy06 calls $0.10, wang770701 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.10, knoy calls $1.05, 1 fold, Preppy06 folds, wang770701 folds

Flop: Four of Spades Queen of Hearts Queen of Spades ($2.70, 2 players)
knoy checks, Hero bets $1.60, knoy calls $1.60

Turn: Queen of Diamonds ($5.90, 2 players)
knoy bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

River: Ace of Spades ($7.10, 2 players)
knoy bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

Final Pot: $9.90
knoy shows: Ace of Hearts Jack of Diamonds
Hero shows: King of Diamonds King of Hearts

knoy wins $9.45 ( won +$4.75 )
Preppy06 lost -$0.10
wang770701 lost -$0.30
Hero lost -$4.70

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ding ding ding gotta learn the 3 flush lesson

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO Pitzbull81 ($16.30)
BTN Hero ($17.20)
SB JeroAFCA ($10.05)
BB KnuckleBall0 ($3.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 4 players) Hero is BTN King of Hearts Ace of Hearts
Pitzbull81 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, KnuckleBall0 calls $0.40, Pitzbull81 calls $0.40

Flop: Ace of Diamonds Seven of Diamonds Jack of Hearts ($1.55, 3 players)
KnuckleBall0 checks, Pitzbull81 checks, Hero bets $1.30, KnuckleBall0 folds, Pitzbull81 calls $1.30

Turn: Six of Diamonds ($4.15, 2 players)
Pitzbull81 checks, Hero bets $2.70, Pitzbull81 calls $2.70

River: King of Diamonds ($9.55, 2 players)
Pitzbull81 checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $9.55
Hero shows: King of Hearts Ace of Hearts
Pitzbull81 shows: Ten of Diamonds Eight of Diamonds

Pitzbull81 wins $9.10 ( won +$4.60 )
Hero lost -$4.50
KnuckleBall0 lost -$0.50

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even getting the money in good fails

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG rAyZnkain ($15.30)
UTG+1 k0oki ($11.30)
CO GLabine ($10.30)
BTN bihan06 ($5.55)
SB sejcek ($3.95)
BB Hero ($10.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Queen of Hearts Queen of Clubs
3 folds, bihan06 calls $0.10, sejcek raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, bihan06 folds, sejcek goes all-in $3.95, Hero calls $2.65

Flop: King of Hearts Five of Diamonds King of Diamonds ($8, 2 players)

Turn: Six of Clubs ($8, 2 players)

River: Five of Spades ($8, 2 players)

Final Pot: $8
Hero shows: Queen of Hearts Queen of Clubs
sejcek shows: Six of Hearts Six of Spades

sejcek wins $7.60 ( won +$3.65 )
Hero lost -$3.95
bihan06 lost -$0.10

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did I mention 3 flush boards
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($14.45)
CO cwktjes ($10.50)
BTN Goski119 ($7.75)
SB Kastelli ($12.65)
BB 03cuervito74 ($49.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG Ten of Clubs Ten of Spades
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Goski119 calls $0.40, 1 fold, 03cuervito74 calls $0.30

Flop: Two of Clubs Four of Diamonds Two of Diamonds ($1.25, 3 players)
03cuervito74 checks, Hero bets $0.40, Goski119 folds, 03cuervito74 calls $0.40

Turn: King of Diamonds ($2.05, 2 players)
03cuervito74 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: Six of Spades ($4.05, 2 players)
03cuervito74 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Final Pot: $7.05
03cuervito74 shows: Five of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds
Hero shows: Ten of Clubs Ten of Spades

03cuervito74 wins $6.75 ( won +$3.45 )
Hero lost -$3.30
Goski119 lost -$0.40

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thank god I got it in good with a shortie on a full house.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.00)
CO mario-draco ($10.10)
BTN IRLsucks ($32.25)
SB Troa balles ($3.70)
BB kingbonne ($0.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG Queen of Diamonds Queen of Spades
Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, kingbonne goes all-in $0.55, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: Queen of Clubs Ace of Spades Five of Hearts ($1.15, 2 players)

Turn: Ace of Clubs ($1.15, 2 players)

River: Ace of Hearts ($1.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $1.15
Hero shows: Queen of Diamonds Queen of Spades
kingbonne shows: Ace of Diamonds Nine of Clubs

kingbonne wins $1.10 ( won +$0.55 )
Hero lost -$0.55

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flopped trips and got it all in and .......

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Goski119 ($7.35)
CO Kastelli ($13.15)
BTN 03cuervito74 ($53.25)
SB Hero ($11.05)
BB cwktjes ($10.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB Queen of Clubs Ten of Diamonds
Goski119 calls $0.10, 1 fold, 03cuervito74 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, cwktjes checks

Flop: Ten of Hearts Ten of Spades Four of Hearts ($0.40, 4 players)
Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, 03cuervito74 raises to $1, Hero goes all-in $10.95, 03cuervito74 calls $9.95

Turn: Six of Diamonds ($22.30, 2 players)

River: Five of Diamonds ($22.30, 2 players)

Final Pot: $22.30
03cuervito74 shows: Queen of Diamonds Ten of Clubs
Hero shows: Queen of Clubs Ten of Diamonds

03cuervito74 wins $10.60 ( lost -$0.45 )
Hero wins $10.60 ( lost -$0.45 )
cwktjes lost -$0.10
Goski119 lost -$0.10
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sometimes its just destined not to be
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.00)
CO Roflpain ($17.85)
BTN DinDinh78 ($4.80)
SB fishfryer74 ($4.35)
BB Maguska111 ($2.95)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG Ace of Hearts King of Clubs
Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, fishfryer74 raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.80, fishfryer74 goes all-in $3.35

Flop: Eight of Clubs Six of Hearts King of Spades ($9.25, 2 players)

Turn: Nine of Clubs ($9.25, 2 players)

River: Six of Diamonds ($9.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $8.80
fishfryer74 shows: Ace of Diamonds King of Hearts
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts King of Clubs

fishfryer74 wins $4.20 ( lost -$0.15 )
Hero wins $4.65 ( lost -$0.15 )

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it wasn't all doom and gloom ....i did win some hands

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG paulus50 ($11.45)
UTG+1 v75kungen ($18.65)
CO Salsa76 ($17.50)
BTN mrbluegill1 ($11.35)
SB hectorrey ($16.00)
BB Hero ($10.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB King of Clubs King of Spades
3 folds, mrbluegill1 calls $0.10, hectorrey calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, mrbluegill1 calls $0.30, hectorrey calls $0.30

Flop: Seven of Clubs Nine of Diamonds Five of Spades ($1.20, 3 players)
hectorrey checks, Hero bets $1, mrbluegill1 raises to $2, hectorrey folds, Hero calls $1

Turn: Two of Diamonds ($5.20, 2 players)
Hero checks, mrbluegill1 goes all-in $8.95, Hero goes all-in $8.35

River: Jack of Spades ($22.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.90
Hero shows: King of Clubs King of Spades
mrbluegill1 shows: Three of Diamonds Six of Diamonds

Hero wins $20.85 ( won +$10.10 )
mrbluegill1 wins $0.60 ( lost -$10.75 )
hectorrey lost -$0.40

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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO Hero ($10.15)
BTN The casher12 ($14.60)
SB knoy ($19.95)
BB Mr.Mo 66 ($12.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 4 players) Hero is CO Five of Hearts Five of Diamonds
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, knoy calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Five of Clubs Ten of Diamonds King of Spades ($0.90, 2 players)
knoy bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1, knoy raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.40, knoy calls $2.90

Turn: Two of Spades ($9.70, 2 players)
knoy bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.20, knoy calls $0.60

River: Ace of Diamonds ($12.10, 2 players)
knoy bets $1.20, Hero raises to $4.10, knoy raises to $7, Hero goes all-in $0.05

Final Pot: $20.40
knoy shows: Ace of Spades King of Clubs
Hero shows: Five of Hearts Five of Diamonds

knoy wins $2.85 ( lost -$10.15 )
Hero wins $19.45 ( won +$9.30 )

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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Gen``us1 ($7.45)
SB Hero ($12.00)
BB Roflpain ($15.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 3 players) Hero is SB King of Spades King of Clubs
Gen``us1 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, Roflpain folds, Gen``us1 goes all-in $7.45, Hero calls $6.25

Flop: Three of Clubs Nine of Hearts Six of Clubs ($15, 2 players)

Turn: Three of Spades ($15, 2 players)

River: Nine of Diamonds ($15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $15
Gen``us1 shows: Ten of Clubs Ten of Spades
Hero shows: King of Spades King of Clubs

Hero wins $14.25 ( won +$6.80 )
Gen``us1 lost -$7.45

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a boat that didn't sink for a change

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG rAyZnkain ($22.95)
UTG+1 k0oki ($12.55)
CO GLabine ($10.35)
BTN baschi1981 ($4.60)
SB Pitzbull81 ($6.05)
BB Hero ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Ten of Hearts King of Hearts
3 folds, baschi1981 calls $0.10, Pitzbull81 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, baschi1981 calls $0.30, Pitzbull81 calls $0.30

Flop: Four of Diamonds King of Clubs Ten of Spades ($1.20, 3 players)
Pitzbull81 checks, Hero bets $0.80, baschi1981 raises to $1.60, Pitzbull81 folds, Hero raises to $4.10, baschi1981 goes all-in $4.20, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: Ten of Clubs ($9.60, 2 players)

River: Six of Clubs ($9.60, 2 players)

Final Pot: $9.60
Hero shows: Ten of Hearts King of Hearts
baschi1981 shows: Queen of Spades Jack of Diamonds

Hero wins $9.15 ( won +$4.55 )
baschi1981 lost -$4.60
Pitzbull81 lost -$0.40

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makes a change to actually suck out on someone

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG cwktjes ($10.65)
UTG+1 bigmalaren69 ($4.90)
CO Goski119 ($7.75)
BTN Kastelli ($12.60)
SB 03cuervito74 ($49.75)
BB Hero ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Queen of Hearts Queen of Diamonds
1 fold, bigmalaren69 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, bigmalaren69 goes all-in $4.90, Hero calls $4.40

Flop: Four of Diamonds Ace of Hearts Jack of Diamonds ($9.85, 2 players)

Turn: Two of Diamonds ($9.85, 2 players)

River: Queen of Spades ($9.85, 2 players)

Final Pot: $9.85
Hero shows: Queen of Hearts Queen of Diamonds
bigmalaren69 shows: King of Hearts King of Diamonds

Hero wins $9.40 ( won +$4.50 )
bigmalaren69 lost -$4.90
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Post Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 7:36am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Joined: 29 Nov 2008
Posts: 778
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OK , so my best session ever playing nearly 1800 hands and I'm left felling disappointed with the $64 profit I ended up with. This could easily have been my first 100$ session except for some suckouts and getting owned by a 90/0 fish. I had 60$ on one table at one stage and she and the suckouts ended me on about 30$ on that table.

this hand she commits half her stack with 4 outs

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ajrenni ($19.50)
UTG+1 Hero ($46.85)
CO jlamb446 ($11.20)
BTN tulip555 ($9.25)
SB marioru1 ($16.35)
BB ellagina ($3.40)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Ace of Diamonds Ten of Spades
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, ellagina calls $0.30

Flop: Three of Diamonds Four of Hearts Four of Diamonds ($0.85, 2 players)
ellagina checks, Hero checks

Turn: Ace of Clubs ($0.85, 2 players)
ellagina bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, ellagina calls $1.10

River: Two of Hearts ($3.85, 2 players)
ellagina goes all-in $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Final Pot: $6.85
ellagina shows: Five of Diamonds Eight of Hearts
Hero shows: Ace of Diamonds Ten of Spades

ellagina wins $6.55 ( won +$3.15 )
Hero lost -$3.40


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Here she calls a raise with 34o . then bets and 3bet shoves over a check raise with bottom pair.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG tulip555 ($9.45)
CO ellagina ($3.35)
BTN ajrenni ($19.30)
SB Hero ($44.95)
BB jlamb446 ($12.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB Ace of Hearts Jack of Clubs
1 fold, ellagina calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, ellagina calls $0.30

Flop: Ace of Spades Four of Hearts Eight of Spades ($0.90, 2 players)
Hero checks, ellagina bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1, ellagina goes all-in $2.95, Hero calls $1.95

Turn: Four of Diamonds ($6.80, 2 players)

River: King of Hearts ($6.80, 2 players)

Final Pot: $6.80
ellagina shows: Four of Clubs Three of Hearts
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts Jack of Clubs

ellagina wins $6.50 ( won +$3.15 )
Hero lost -$3.35

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At least I got away from this one , but jeez shows how lucky she was.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG tulip555 ($8.65)
UTG+1 unKnownFelon ($9.90)
CO ellagina ($8.25)
BTN ajrenni ($20.15)
SB Hero ($40.35)
BB jlamb446 ($11.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB Ace of Hearts Seven of Diamonds
2 folds, ellagina calls $0.10, ajrenni calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, jlamb446 checks

Flop: King of Spades Nine of Clubs Seven of Spades ($0.40, 4 players)
Hero checks, jlamb446 checks, ellagina bets $0.10, ajrenni calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, jlamb446 folds

Turn: King of Clubs ($0.70, 3 players)
Hero checks, ellagina bets $0.10, ajrenni calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

River: Six of Hearts ($1.00, 3 players)
Hero checks, ellagina bets $0.60, ajrenni raises to $2.30, Hero folds, ellagina raises to $4, ajrenni raises to $6.10, ellagina calls $2.10

Final Pot: $13.20
ellagina shows: Six of Clubs King of Diamonds
ajrenni shows: Six of Diamonds Six of Spades

ellagina wins $12.55 ( won +$6.15 )
ajrenni lost -$6.40
Hero lost -$0.30
jlamb446 lost -$0.10

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calls a 7bb raise with 5Ts pre then chases gutshot .
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Marsden0103 ($11.45)
UTG+1 tulip555 ($8.05)
CO unKnownFelon ($9.30)
BTN ellagina ($11.85)
SB barbarell ($30.50)
BB Hero ($30.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Ace of Clubs Ace of Hearts
3 folds, ellagina calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.70, ellagina calls $0.60

Flop: Nine of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds King of Spades ($1.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, ellagina calls $1.20

Turn: Queen of Diamonds ($3.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, ellagina calls $1.30

River: Ace of Spades ($6.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, ellagina raises to $2.60, Hero calls $1.30

Final Pot: $11.65
ellagina shows: Five of Spades Ten of Spades
Hero shows: Ace of Clubs Ace of Hearts

ellagina wins $11.10 ( won +$5.30 )
Hero lost -$5.80

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this was the start of the rot on that table and had 90% equity when the money went in.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG tulip555 ($5.95)
UTG+1 repsolpeti ($0.90)
CO Dendoni ($4.50)
BTN ajrenni ($10.45)
SB Hero ($60.50)
BB jlamb446 ($14.65)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB King of Spades King of Clubs
tulip555 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, ajrenni raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $2.10, 1 fold, tulip555 folds, ajrenni calls $0.90

Flop: Three of Diamonds Ten of Spades Eight of Clubs ($4.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, ajrenni goes all-in $8.35, Hero calls $6.15

Turn: Queen of Clubs ($21.30, 2 players)

River: Three of Clubs ($21.30, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.30
ajrenni shows: Queen of Spades Queen of Hearts
Hero shows: King of Spades King of Clubs

ajrenni wins $20.25 ( won +$9.80 )
Hero lost -$10.45
tulip555 lost -$0.30

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OK enough doom and gloom. Lovely hand to hit with.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($38.10)
CO 1985julian8 ($2.00)
BTN repsolpeti ($3.75)
SB varunc58 ($8.60)
BB elblanco23 ($12.30)
[1985julian8 posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.25, 5 players) Hero is UTG Seven of Spades Seven of Clubs
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, repsolpeti calls $0.40, varunc58 calls $0.35, elblanco23 raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.30, repsolpeti calls $0.30, varunc58 calls $0.30

Flop: Two of Clubs Ten of Clubs Seven of Hearts ($2.90, 4 players)
varunc58 checks, elblanco23 bets $1, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, varunc58 calls $3, elblanco23 goes all-in $11.60, Hero raises to $35.70, varunc58 goes all-in $4.90

Turn: Two of Hearts ($58.10, 3 players)

River: Four of Diamonds ($58.10, 3 players)

Final Pot: $34
varunc58 shows: Eight of Diamonds Nine of Diamonds
elblanco23 shows: Ace of Clubs Eight of Clubs
Hero shows: Seven of Spades Seven of Clubs

Hero wins $56.45 ( won +$20.05 )
varunc58 lost -$8.60
elblanco23 lost -$12.30
repsolpeti lost -$0.70

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I think I'm getting better at situations like this at getting the money in at the right time although its a bit nerve wracking 180bb deep.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG renanstos ($10.00)
UTG+1 dnj11 ($10.15)
CO gkeuler88 ($15.50)
BTN rocknemesis ($5.60)
SB Hero ($19.95)
BB flip4myhouse ($17.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB King of Hearts King of Spades
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, flip4myhouse calls $0.30

Flop: Two of Hearts King of Clubs Eight of Clubs ($0.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, flip4myhouse calls $0.60

Turn: Ten of Hearts ($2, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.10, flip4myhouse raises to $5.50, Hero goes all-in $18.95, flip4myhouse goes all-in $10.65

River: Ace of Diamonds ($37.10, 2 players)

Final Pot: $34.30
Hero shows: King of Hearts King of Spades
flip4myhouse shows: Ten of Spades Eight of Spades

Hero wins $35.40 ( won +$15.45 )
flip4myhouse lost -$17.15

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boat up get paid .lol

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG AllinDelon99 ($5.30)
UTG+1 charlestpric ($7.15)
CO rocknemesis ($6.00)
BTN Hero ($11.75)
SB flip4myhouse ($20.10)
BB renanstos ($10.00)
[rocknemesis posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.25, 6 players) Hero is BTN King of Hearts King of Diamonds
AllinDelon99 calls $0.10, 1 fold, rocknemesis checks, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, renanstos calls $0.40, AllinDelon99 calls $0.40, rocknemesis folds

Flop: Three of Hearts Three of Clubs Ace of Spades ($1.65, 3 players)
renanstos checks, AllinDelon99 checks, Hero bets $1.20, renanstos calls $1.20, AllinDelon99 folds

Turn: King of Clubs ($4.05, 2 players)
renanstos checks, Hero bets $2.70, renanstos calls $2.70

River: Eight of Spades ($9.45, 2 players)
renanstos checks, Hero goes all-in $7.35, renanstos goes all-in $5.60

Final Pot: $20.65
Hero shows: King of Hearts King of Diamonds
renanstos shows: Ace of Hearts Four of Hearts

Hero wins $21.40 ( won +$9.65 )
rocknemesis lost -$0.10
renanstos lost -$10
AllinDelon99 lost -$0.50

------------------------------------------------------------------

and again

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG haugitapja ($10.00)
UTG+1 amznh ($24.40)
CO R.Graholsky ($13.85)
BTN Hero ($10.00)
SB jknz ($22.30)
BB Djoeh ($10.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Clubs Queen of Diamonds
2 folds, R.Graholsky calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, jknz calls $0.45, Djoeh calls $0.40, R.Graholsky folds

Flop: Queen of Hearts Jack of Diamonds Five of Hearts ($1.60, 3 players)
jknz checks, Djoeh bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2, jknz folds, Djoeh raises to $5.40, Hero raises to $9.40, Djoeh goes all-in $9.60, Hero goes all-in $0.10

Turn: Five of Diamonds ($20.70, 2 players)

River: King of Diamonds ($20.70, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.60
Hero shows: Queen of Clubs Queen of Diamonds
Djoeh shows: Nine of Hearts Eight of Hearts

Hero wins $19.60 ( won +$9.60 )


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then again nut flush is just as good.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG KOMAP29rus ($9.10)
UTG+1 Vagamundos ($11.00)
CO Hero ($28.85)
BTN LVNative1 ($9.80)
SB gilou91450 ($7.85)
BB charlestpric ($5.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Ten of Hearts Ace of Clubs
KOMAP29rus calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, LVNative1 calls $0.40, 2 folds, KOMAP29rus folds

Flop: Four of Clubs Jack of Spades Queen of Clubs ($1.05, 2 players)
Hero checks, LVNative1 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: Ten of Clubs ($2.05, 2 players)
Hero checks, LVNative1 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: Eight of Clubs ($4.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $21.20, LVNative1 goes all-in $7.90

Final Pot: $19.85
Hero shows: Ten of Hearts Ace of Clubs
LVNative1 shows: Ace of Spades King of Clubs

Hero wins $32.20 ( won +$9.10 )
LVNative1 lost -$9.80
KOMAP29rus lost -$0.10

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Its usually me that been shoving in the past just as equity lead has gone from me.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($38.80)
CO krazyowe ($10.40)
BTN boosters666 ($11.35)
SB Mephisto750c ($6.40)
BB MtlSars ($4.90)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG Queen of Hearts Jack of Clubs
Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Mephisto750c calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Jack of Spades Ace of Clubs Two of Clubs ($0.90, 2 players)
Mephisto750c checks, Hero bets $0.70, Mephisto750c calls $0.70

Turn: Jack of Diamonds ($2.30, 2 players)
Mephisto750c goes all-in $5.30, Hero calls $5.30

River: Three of Hearts ($12.90, 2 players)

Final Pot: $12.90
Hero shows: Queen of Hearts Jack of Clubs
Mephisto750c shows: Four of Diamonds Ace of Diamonds

Hero wins $12.30 ( won +$5.90 )
Mephisto750c lost -$6.40

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anyways ......lots more hands that I could post but meh..........

I generally felt that I played well last night. Kolonel was sposed to join in a sweat session but didn't see him online so just carried on playing and making money. Was back to 4 tabling , but its ffffffing hard to take notes with the input focus contiually getting nicked from the note window...type the note and look up to see it was a waste of time , nothing there and a couple of windows waiting for action.
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Keith_MM
Post Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 5:44am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Joined: 29 Nov 2008
Posts: 778
WPP: 202

oh what a week its been.This time last week I was down 10 BI's and wondering what I'd done wrong. Played a shortish session last night for a $47 profit. This means that I've made about 184$ in the last week since the bottom of the trough ( includes a 8$ fpp Bonus though) . It also includes the -$43 session as well when I insisted on donating on made flushs. Heres the last weeks graph.

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Post Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 6:54am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Posts: 778
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Ok , so what have I changed.

I think its all started as a result of going through some of the hand historys of people that I've racked up a lot of hands against and seeing what they've shown down and how they've played their hands. Quite a revelation when you look at hand after hand . You get a feel for how they play but its also given me ideas about how I could change how I play so that I don't lose as much and win more.

so what have I changed .

1.
I think I'm cbetting less than I was , actually I've just checked ...I am .....63% before last week , 50% this week.
What ??? you're saying, we've always been told to cbet. I think I'm just cbetting more effectively especially when out of position and I've missed the flop or connected weakly with it when in position. Why bloat the pot ? It may just check round and go for a delayed cbet on the turn or I may connect . If someone comes out betting strongly on the flop and I've got nothing and no strong draws . hell its only 4bbs I'm down ...toss it and win a bigger pot elsewhere.
If someone comes betting weakly at the flop I make a decision whether to call (is it a fish) or fold (normally) or occasionally raise with overcards , draws and a gut feel that the bettor has very little either (rare).
I was going to write a whole spiel about how I think that this has affected how people react to my play but I'm still working it through at the moment. One effect is that I am considerably strengthening my cbetting hands . Consider someone cbetting 90-100% . They only connect with the flop 1/3 of the time so 2/3 of the time they are bluffing.With a strongish hand on the flop it makes it easier to raise them and since they have air 2/3 of they'll fold a lot of the time. On the other hand , by cbetting 50% , I appears that I have a hand 2/3 of the time and bluffs 1/3 of the time so that when I am cbetting I can bet flop turn and river as I have a hand that has connected with the flop. How much I'm betting obviously depends on how well I connected with the flop , how well I think they connected and general reads on the opponent.
I'm further manipulating my cbetting range OOP by check call/check raise depending on opponents . Therefore it appears from my 50 % cbet stat that I hit the flop 2/3 time in reality it may only be half the time as some of the time that I hit the flop I'll be letting aggro players do the betting and getting money in with air thinking that they can bluff me off the pot since they'll have seen me raise pre and having check folded some flops before reraising them either on the flop or turn.


2. I'm altering how I play with regards to other peoples bets as well. I have to thank Jyms for his OP and griffey's advice to him about folding to 3bets should be over 66%. I was hovering around 50% so I'm making a conscious effort to tighten this up. I still don't respect a min 3bet from a fish raising my 40c bet to 70c. I'd be cbetting more than that 30c anyway probably so depending on my hand strengthits either a call or a reraise.

3. After my trip to IRC I've altered how I play my premiums preflop. if I can I'll try and get QQ+ AK in pre. Once the flop has come though . A lot of their strength has weakened . From being a stack off hand they now just become a top pair hand (if that ) so that I will pot control them a lot more and QQ on a AKx flop to action is a pretty easy fold.

4. I've definately altered how willing I am to stack off street by street . The flush hell i had this week has certainly made me slow down against potential flushes. Overall , I think the value lost on winning hands is a lot less than $ lost on losing hands.

5. I'm stealing less 37% now compared to 40% before. It may be a subtle difference but I'm trying not to do it with complete crap anymore unless theyre a 8/6 100% fold to steal and its free money. Before it seemed to be to frequent and before long I was getting 3 bet and with crap 4betting light didn't appeal.

Anyway ,thanks to everyone who has offered advice , theres still a lot of work for me to do on my game (and I must listen to myself more when I make a call expecting to be beaten , more dollars go out to better hands than come in from catching bluffs at this level)
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Post Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 7:45am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Posts: 207
WPP: 112
Location: London
Nice post Keith. Think I need to do some of the analysis that you did after your big downswing. Keep doing what you're doing.
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Post Posted: Tue, 07 Jul 2009, 8:45am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Posts: 778
WPP: 202

couple of shitty days play..... Sunday I was up $25 before sprewing off 20$ to end up $5 at $575. SImilar story last night , shortish session but QQ<AA and AK <TT all in pre accounted for 2 stacks, and card deadness meant break even over the rest for a net loss of $19 to leave the roll on .
Currently averaging 50 vpps per day so hopefully will retain silver star this month and therefore keep it for august and september. Definately seem to be earning them a lot faster under the new 5x scheme as last month came nowhere near earning enough to have silver star under 'normal' circumstances. I have moved up to 4 tables though so thats having an effect as well.
Definately going to concentrate on my play though. One table last night I was only cbetting 10% . That is way too exploitable but I think partkly affected by having maniacs on the table.
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Post Posted: Tue, 07 Jul 2009, 10:19am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think our accounts are hooked up to the same doomswitch, yo. I had this month's first negative session last night also. Gogo, 25NL wants you.
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booked a 4$ profit after aboiut 1200 hands last night. Was down about 15$ at one stage then one table went apeshit . Was sat to the immediate left of a 98/69/7 over about 90 hands . He was betting and raising every street. JUst called him down several times with flush draws which hit on the river and stacked him twice but it was bloody expensive to get to show down with him and several times TPTK was no good against some random trash that two paired on the river.

edit: scrap this ...seems they just aren't callingthem newvpp anymore

Quote:
On another side note ......WTF is happening with the new fpp tables. THe past few nights it seemed that they were all the new sort.....last night there were very few and its only towards the end of the night that i realised that there were a few new 5x tables but most were back to the old sort.Can't help wondering if stars have seen tha t they are going to be hammered at 5 and 10 nl by peole clearing bonuses when before earing vpps was hard.
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Post Posted: Wed, 08 Jul 2009, 11:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That's what I thought, but are you sure? I've still got the odd one or two that are called New VPP...
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wtf at the first hand on this page
don't have a problem with the hand, but I have a problem with bluffing TPTK
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I thought I was up against a worse kicker or flush I think and throw in being on a heater and it turned into some lousy river play. followed this up later in the op weith spewing plenty on 'flush' boards .
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oops ....nearly had to rescue this op from page 2.
Had a couple of swingy days at the end of last week , up 35$ one day and lost 34$ the next. Then I had a couple of days at the seaside with wife and lad. Took lappy with holdem manager on it planning to study how some of my oponents play in the evenings.
That idea didn't exactly go down to well with wife/in laws so in the end just vegged watching telly one night (snow baths in the antartic don't sound fun) watched a film next night and played links ls against my wife on the lappy the third night so in effect 3 poker free days.
Came back earlier than rest of family to get back to work.....(downside of self employed) and Erpel called in last night and we discussed poker. Straightened out some of my thinking and did some analysis on some of my opponents and played around with filters on my own database.
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woooo hooo , finished up $40 to finish with the bank roll over $600 for the first time.Also had the biggest pot of my career so far heads up 300bb deep for a 58$ pot. I'm going to post it in BC as I don't know whether it was sensible or stupid play.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG delacanc ($33.50)
CO JMCR1 ($10.00)
BTN Hribouc ($10.40)
SB Hero ($30.85)
BB Shadowdeep ($9.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB Ten of Spades Ten of Clubs
delacanc raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.45, 1 fold

Flop: King of Diamonds Ten of Hearts King of Spades ($1.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, delacanc calls $1

Turn: Queen of Hearts ($3.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $6.30, delacanc goes all-in $32, Hero goes all-in $23.05

River: Nine of Hearts ($64.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $61.80
delacanc shows: Ace of Spades Jack of Diamonds
Hero shows: Ten of Spades Ten of Clubs

delacanc wins $2.65 ( lost -$30.85 )
Hero wins $59.80 ( won +$28.95 )
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ok so its been a weird week. Was drifting downwards on he bankroll . Night before last started at $553 was hitting hands left right and center and was sitting at $615 at one stage before finishing at 595$.
Then last night none of my hands seemed to stand up and shut the tables down early after dropping 4 Buy In s so roll is back at 553$. 800 vpps for the month so far though so hopefull on course for retaining silver star this month.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG 1.Sieger ($2.75)
CO kehmor ($1.55)
BTN sheude ($4.35)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB Hangloose666 ($8.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB King of Spades Queen of Diamonds
2 folds, sheude calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, Hangloose666 checks

Flop: Ten of Diamonds Queen of Spades Eight of Diamonds ($0.30, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, Hangloose666 calls $0.30, sheude raises to $1, Hero calls $0.70, Hangloose666 calls $0.70

Turn: Jack of Clubs ($3.30, 3 players)
Hero checks, Hangloose666 checks, sheude goes all-in $3.25, Hero calls $3.25, Hangloose666 folds

River: Jack of Diamonds ($9.80, 2 players)

Final Pot: $9.80
sheude shows: Ace of Clubs Ace of Diamonds
Hero shows: King of Spades Queen of Diamonds

sheude wins $9.35 ( won +$5 )
Hero lost -$4.35
Hangloose666 lost -$1.10
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WTF .....seems like I've gone into meltdown mode. No matter what I seem to do I just keep running intoi total fish with better hands.yesterday was up 30$ at one stage before finishing down 5$ . Last night was just a disaster zone , Finished down $64 .Heres the graph for the month so far and the effect the last couple of sessions have had. Bankroll is now down to about 480$.


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ok this was the damage and could really do with some feedback on these hands.
Villain was a 21/20 and 5% 3bet and had been stealing a lot.Pre thought it was time to try and rein back his steals

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG gegewolf ($14.35)
UTG+1 lolregoob ($10.00)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN Grzybouch ($7.60)
SB XxRatedG ($10.15)
BB Nabil73 ($1.90)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Jack of Spades Jack of Hearts
1 fold, lolregoob raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, lolregoob raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Should probably have just folded here . Put him on QQ+, AK and was hoping he was on AK .all together $8.50 of spew here.



Flop: Two of Diamonds Queen of Clubs Queen of Spades ($10.15, 2 players)
lolregoob goes all-in $5, Hero goes all-in $5

Turn: Ace of Hearts ($20.15, 2 players)

River: Three of Diamonds ($20.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.15
lolregoob shows: King of Spades King of Clubs
Hero shows: Jack of Spades Jack of Hearts

lolregoob wins $19.20 ( won +$9.20 )
Hero lost -$10

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Another ugly hand; Kingz2beat was 41 /20 DMC was 60/26.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG arunninghand ($9.90)
UTG+1 Pokerwesjuh ($12.60)
CO Kingz2Beat ($10.40)
BTN kino4life ($10.40)
SB DMC-KW ($13.15)
BB Hero ($11.95)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Jack of Hearts King of Diamonds
2 folds, Kingz2Beat raises to $0.30, 1 fold, DMC-KW calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: Ten of Clubs Jack of Spades Nine of Diamonds ($0.90, 3 players)
DMC-KW bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10, Kingz2Beat raises to $4, DMC-KW calls $2.90, Hero calls $2.90

Turn: Four of Hearts ($12.90, 3 players)
DMC-KW goes all-in $8.85, Hero goes all-in $7.65, Kingz2Beat goes all-in $6.10

River: Four of Spades ($35.50, 3 players)

Final Pot: $34.30
Kingz2Beat shows: Ace of Clubs Ace of Spades
DMC-KW shows: Jack of Clubs Seven of Hearts
Hero shows: Jack of Hearts King of Diamonds

Kingz2Beat wins $29.70 ( won +$19.30 )
DMC-KW wins $1.20 ( lost -$11.95 )
Hero wins $2.95 ( lost -$9 )


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ermmmmm fold pre.... Usually UTG I'm AJ+ ,22+ and Kx is out.....grrr this is just ugly
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($19.60)
CO Watt77 ($13.65)
BTN SevenOThree ($18.60)
SB tublar49 ($8.25)
BB kreten1337 ($10.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG Queen of Diamonds King of Hearts
Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, tublar49 calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: Queen of Spades Eight of Diamonds Four of Clubs ($0.90, 2 players)
tublar49 checks, Hero bets $0.70, tublar49 raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: Ten of Spades ($3.70, 2 players)
tublar49 bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: Seven of Hearts ($9.70, 2 players)
tublar49 goes all-in $3.45, Hero calls $3.45

Final Pot: $16.60
tublar49 shows: Ace of Diamonds Queen of Clubs
Hero shows: Queen of Diamonds King of Hearts

tublar49 wins $15.80 ( won +$7.55 )
Hero lost -$8.25
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Post Posted: Sat, 25 Jul 2009, 9:47am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Take all this with a grain of salt, I am a self proclaimed noob and my thoughts is simply what I would do and by no means does it mean that it's right. Razz

1: You say this guy was stealing tons, but was he positionally aware? Because UTG+1 raise is usually a pretty easy call with JJ with most villains for me. With a read that he's super aggro pre-flop I might re-raise but I'm definitely folding to his 4bet. You're pretty much playing for set value and you don't have the odds for that call.

2: I'm folding the flop. I don't mind the first call so much, TP2K + gutshot is good enough imo but after the re-raise you gotta know you're beat. It's multiway, there's an OOP raise and your call. This guy's re-raise is indication of something big (unless you have some sort of very specific read). I can't see him having anything you can beat, so your TP2K is useless and a gutshot isn't worth calling anymore. You're getting 1/3 odds or so on the 3bet call with your gutshot which is decent with implied odds but there's Qs all over your opponent's ranges. Then turn it's a snapfold.

3: Yeah I fold pre as well. This is a good one for ranges, imo. Not sure what villain's VPIP is here but he called your UTG raise, then re-raised a super dry flop. Lets see... if he's our average Joe, his ranges might look something like this:
Pre: 22-JJ, AK-AJ, KQ
Flop: AQ, JJ-88, 44 - your equity is around 53% vs this range. Depending on how aggressive he is you could still leave KQ, in there, but it doesn't change your equity much.
Turn: AQ, TT, 88, 44 - Again, depending on aggression, JJ could still be in his range. Without it, you're down to under 30% equity. With JJ in his range you are around 45% equity. I think this is a clear fold at this point.

Well, those are my thoughts, feel free to critisize them, since I learn tons from giving feedback as well.

Keep it going man, remember it's all about playing with a clear mind, your A-game 100% - if you don't feel you're playing 100% then drop it, go play some donkaments if you really want to play poker or something. Don't try to force the wins, it only does the exact opposite.

Hey maybe we can set up a sweat session sometime, it could help the both of us. Let me know if you're interested. GL, keep your chin up. Kick ass.
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Post Posted: Sat, 25 Jul 2009, 10:46am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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yeah ...would love a sweat session ...I'm on every night so hit me with a pm when you are free.......doing one with kolonel tonight at 11pm ,either join in or do it another night.

Villain in last hand was 54/3 . I think with the real fish I have trouble accepting that they might have a hand..

couple of hands against a 77/21; He was regularly showing up with second or bottom pair and sometimes bluffing air.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG wfdpspits9 ($7.85)
CO kino4life ($12.05)
BTN Easy888 ($6.40)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB gdunn4 ($9.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB Ten of Diamonds King of Clubs
wfdpspits9 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Easy888 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, gdunn4 checks

Flop: King of Diamonds Four of Clubs Jack of Hearts ($0.40, 4 players)
Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, wfdpspits9 calls $0.40, Easy888 calls $0.40

Turn: Six of Hearts ($1.60, 3 players)
Hero bets $1, wfdpspits9 calls $1, Easy888 calls $1

River: Nine of Diamonds ($4.60, 3 players)
Hero bets $2.60, wfdpspits9 goes all-in $6.35, Easy888 folds, Hero calls $3.75

Final Pot: $17.30
Hero shows: Ten of Diamonds King of Clubs
wfdpspits9 shows: Nine of Spades Jack of Spades

wfdpspits9 wins $16.45 ( won +$8.60 )
Easy888 lost -$1.50
Hero lost -$7.85
gdunn4 lost -$0.10


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this was agianst the same villain. Gotta start learning o fold when these uber fish start check raising...or anyone for that matter

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG GJBRADLEY ($14.85)
UTG+1 Sjappert ($10.00)
CO Hero ($16.75)
BTN 4Ace_iLLu ($10.00)
SB wfdpspits9 ($16.55)
BB kino4life ($12.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO King of Spades Jack of Hearts
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, wfdpspits9 calls $0.35, 1 fold

Main Pot ($0.90)
Hero: 64.10% (EV = $0.18)
wfdpspits9: 35.90% (EV = -$0.08)

Flop: King of Diamonds Queen of Clubs Queen of Diamonds ($0.90, 2 players)
wfdpspits9 checks, Hero bets $0.70, wfdpspits9 calls $0.70

Main Pot ($2.30)
Hero: 84.20% (EV = $1.24)
wfdpspits9: 15.80% (EV = -$0.34)

Turn: Jack of Clubs ($2.30, 2 players)
wfdpspits9 checks, Hero bets $2, wfdpspits9 raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Main Pot ($14.30)
Hero: 13.60% (EV = -$4.06)
wfdpspits9: 86.40% (EV = $6.36)

River: Ten of Hearts ($14.30, 2 players)
wfdpspits9 checks, Hero checks

Main Pot ($14.30)
Hero: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
wfdpspits9: 100.00% (EV = $14.30)

Final Pot: $14.30
Hero shows: King of Spades Jack of Hearts
wfdpspits9 shows: Ten of Diamonds Nine of Clubs

wfdpspits9 wins $13.60 ( won +$6.50 )
Hero lost -$7.10

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this hand was a WTF????? could only put him on 99,QT.T7.He's a 45/15 and 3.6 postflop aggression.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Jehejehe ($11.90)
UTG+1 Hero ($10.00)
CO bulli78 ($15.25)
BTN TURELOJERO ($3.20)
SB blag19 ($11.85)
BB titoljr ($20.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Ten of Diamonds Ten of Spades
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, titoljr calls $0.30

Flop: Jack of Hearts Three of Clubs Eight of Diamonds ($0.85, 2 players)
titoljr checks, Hero bets $0.70, titoljr calls $0.70

Turn: Nine of Hearts ($2.25, 2 players)
titoljr checks, Hero bets $1.50, titoljr raises to $13.80, Hero folds

Final Pot: $5.25

titoljr wins $17.30 ( won +$2.40 )
Hero lost -$2.60


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Post Posted: Sat, 25 Jul 2009, 11:04am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Heh, first and second hands are the same one, I assume a copy paste error. I was all like, wow, these hands are so similar and against the same player, what are the odds?! Razz

1. Anyways, first/second hand is fucked up, I think river is b/f and I might even check the turn. Nasty though, when the fish run goot, they run goot. Oh and also, KTo on the SB I'd either raise to isolate the whale or fold. But I'm really tight from the SB so it may be fine.

2. Second one is a good fold I think, I would have c/f or c/c a small bet on the turn and try to hit the straight. I don't think leading turn gets you anywhere since you would really only be getting folds from hands you have beat.

Ship your MSN/Skype or whatever you guys use plx! I'll defo join in tonight. Using teamviewer?


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Meh, fuck, meant to edit and hit quote. \o/ Post count whoring ftw.
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Post Posted: Sat, 25 Jul 2009, 11:25am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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a blog is the best post whore going lol .......fixed hand 2 and pm'ed MSN
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sweat = teamviewer/skype combo?

let me know if advice from a 6-max relative fish might come in handy - now that i've decided that i don't play without my a-game i have all this time when i can't play normal stakes - so sweat sessions, vids, study, mtt/sng micro-abuse, plo, etc have more place!
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In that hand where you hold TT on Jh3c8h9h I would probably be checking the turn.
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Sweat session last night with Rob (Kolonel) and Gobbatino went well.Alltogether during the actual session I probably finished up about 6$ . Carried on playing afterwards and got rivered set over set on one hand but ran well the rest, finally hit some other sets and finished up .
1 table I had a complete pig of a player . 78/29 8.6 post flop aggression , 19% 3bet pre. Basically , you had to hit your hand else you would be all in with air, and play at the table was specifically skewed to combat this player.It didn't help that he kept showing up with a hand but one of the hands he didnt bet hard I looked him up with just to find out what he wasn't playing hard.
This was one hand that gave us trouble. I had gone to limp calling hands that had big hand potential pre but generally was playing extremely tight ....13/9 which is unheard of for me. $0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Doug Rocket ($18.30)
UTG+1 jackostone ($10.00)
CO thebastille ($15.85)
BTN Tylasgun ($10.25)
SB Hero ($13.35)
BB Giftedhandz ($10.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB Nine of Hearts Queen of Hearts
2 folds, thebastille raises to $0.20, Tylasgun calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold

Main Pot ($0.70)
Hero: 44.60% (EV = $0.11)
thebastille: 55.40% (EV = $0.19)

Flop: Nine of Clubs Four of Diamonds Three of Spades ($0.70, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.60, thebastille raises to $1.20, Tylasgun folds, Hero calls $0.60

Main Pot ($3.10)
Hero: 70.60% (EV = $0.99)
thebastille: 29.40% (EV = -$0.29)

Turn: Queen of Diamonds ($3.10, 2 players)
Hero checks, thebastille bets $4, Hero calls $4

This was a point where we tanked and had a discussion. Whether to call or shove. We were sure we were ahead at this point and the debate was the best way to get the money in. Decided to go for call and shove the river

Main Pot ($11.10)
Hero: 90.90% (EV = $6.09)
thebastille: 9.10% (EV = -$2.99)

River: Two of Hearts ($11.10, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $7.95, thebastille calls $7.95

Main Pot ($27.00)
Hero: 0.00% (EV = -$7.95)
thebastille: 100.00% (EV = $19.05)

Final Pot: $27
thebastille shows: Ace of Hearts Five of Diamonds
Hero shows: Nine of Hearts Queen of Hearts

thebastille wins $25.70 ( won +$12.35 )
Tylasgun lost -$0.20
Hero lost -$13.35

So yippee dooo for him , he hit his 4 outer on the river and we had a chorus or WHAT????NOOOOOOOOO.Whether he would have folded to a turn shove is questionable , we did see him folding but not when he'd put big bets in on flop and turn.
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A bit later on this hand came
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG jackostone ($10.40)
UTG+1 thebastille ($18.25)
CO dieMarei ($10.45)
BTN Hero ($10.00)
SB Giftedhandz ($10.05)
BB Doug Rocket ($18.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Three of Diamonds King of Hearts
1 fold, thebastille calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, thebastille calls $0.20

Flop: Seven of Diamonds King of Spades Two of Clubs ($0.75, 2 players)
thebastille bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: Three of Spades ($2.75, 2 players)
thebastille checks, Hero checks

River: Queen of Clubs ($2.75, 2 players)
thebastille bets $3, Hero goes all-in $8.70, thebastille calls $5.70

Final Pot: $20.15
thebastille shows: Queen of Spades Nine of Hearts
Hero shows: Three of Diamonds King of Hearts

Hero wins $19.15 ( won +$9.15 )
thebastille lost -$10

Again we had a mini debate on whether to bet or check the turn. It was very unusual for him to check the turn and seeing what he had I think we made the right choice in checking it back. It gave him a chance to catch up and make a hand and once he had any piece of the board and our 'weakness' on the river he had been happy to get it in against other players.

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Then just for good measure this hand came along.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG dieMarei ($9.70)
UTG+1 Hero ($17.25)
CO PokerPhysics ($5.60)
BTN Doug Rocket ($18.40)
SB jackostone ($12.70)
BB thebastille ($9.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Nine of Diamonds Nine of Clubs
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, thebastille calls $0.30

Flop: Eight of Spades Seven of Hearts Five of Spades ($0.85, 2 players)
thebastille bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85

Turn: Ten of Diamonds ($2.55, 2 players)
thebastille bets $2.50,

Again we had a discussion on the turn ....We thought the chance were that we were ahead at the moment and an open ended draw to improve so ......

[b]Hero raises to $9.50
, thebastille goes all-in $5.45

River: Three of Clubs ($20, 2 players)

Final Pot: $18.45
thebastille shows: Six of Clubs Four of Clubs
Hero shows: Nine of Diamonds Nine of Clubs

thebastille wins $17.55 ( won +$8.35 )
Hero wins $1.55 ( lost -$9.20 )

All in all , I think it was a pretty solid session, and Gobbatino was surrised I think by how easy it is to get laggy stats without playing total crap by stealing relentlessy against the right people and not continuing with the trashj hands when people play back. I'm happier than I was yesterday and the bankroll is giving a mini psychological boost for being back over the $500 mark at $508.
Vpp is going to be a close run thing but i'm fairly sure that i should be able to retain silver star. Last nights long session helped, and I now need 212 vpps in 5.5 sessions allowing for the reverse sweat with gobbatino so its looking like i need an average of about 40 per day and the days i've actually played this month I've averaged 45 vpps per day.
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Post Posted: Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 8:42am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hand 1 - 3-bet flop. As played check-shove turn. Out of position you're shoving any river - and maniacs are more likely to fold to aggression on the river than any other street. Get it in on the turn and he's calling middle pair.

Hand 2 - See how differently life plays in position. You get to control the hand. I prefer raising the flop, as played turn check behind is fine as is river shove.

Hand 3 - Pre-flop good. Raise flop cos you're ahead here most of the time and hate overcards. Turn call as played, you have middle pair and showdown value so you want him checking the river - ten outs (if you're lucky) against a call doesn't make for a good shove. What's his calling range? Does the shove still make sense?
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hand from the end of my sunday night session that put me down to $470. Had been paying off slow played sets all night either side of watching Gobbatino in a sweat session.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG MrnXdK ($10.00)
UTG+1 Blankota ($16.95)
CO SHADSWORTH ($20.20)
BTN Wilfried123 ($16.90)
SB knightxq ($12.15)
BB Hero ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB Ten of Diamonds Ten of Spades
1 fold, Blankota calls $0.10, SHADSWORTH calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Blankota calls $0.30, SHADSWORTH calls $0.30

Flop: Nine of Spades Five of Hearts Five of Clubs ($1.25, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.70, Blankota calls $0.70, SHADSWORTH folds

Turn: Ten of Hearts ($2.65, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, Blankota calls $1.60

River: Three of Diamonds ($5.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $5.30, Blankota raises to $12, Hero goes all-in $2

Final Pot: $20.45
Hero shows: Ten of Diamonds Ten of Spades
Blankota shows: Five of Diamonds Five of Spades

Blankota wins $24.15 ( won +$9.45 )
Hero lost -$10
SHADSWORTH lost -$0.40
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TT hand is well played, nice work.

Keith_MM wrote:
hand from the end of my sunday night session that put me down to $470. Had been paying off slow played sets all night either side of watching Gobbatino in a sweat session.


I've got this big thing about a-game at the moment. What are the chances of you having the focus to be playing to the best of your ability after a session AND an hour or two of constant poker focus during a sweat session?

tilt = any deviation from a-game. So chances are that the session was tilty, but won't be recognised as such..
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I think a big factor in my swinginess is that i have been hitting that damm call button when I get raised on the turn or river. Its great when they are bluffing and the graph shoots up when they have a hand though I'm usually calling because i have a hand , just not so good a hand. then the graph plummets.
Last night I tried to exercise some self control , folding top pairs to reraises . Results were less swingy but i'm not sure if opps were catching on that I could fold and were whacking in a big bluff on the end. Finished up 10$ . could have been better but couold have hbeen a lot worse. I'll post up some of the folds later see whether people think that i was just being tooo nitty .
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I do this a lot as well.

I mark someone as being capable of attacking weakness and stealing. Then I put money in, then check and give him an opportunity to steal - and then I see myself making hero calls.

I've seen a few observations that relate and that I need to remember more when I play:
1) Some people are perfectly happy to bluff a huge range when first in one any street - but will never never bluff raise.
2) Some people are perfectly happy to bluff when the pot is small/medium sized but will never never bluff into a big pot

When I don't have a solid read but a few stats to go buy and I try to determine whether an opponent is likely to be bluffing this river I check his overall aggression in relation to his street by street aggression - if his aggression increases street by street he's more likely bluffing on later streets. If his vpip is huge but his aggression is modest that can still be a big range with bluffs in it. If his won at showdown is very low he might bluff rivers a lot. If his river bet % is high he is likely to bluff rivers a lot.

But yeah, often enough when I make that call I don't have a clear idea if I'm +EV and typically that makes it a losing play.
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ok the folds....

villain was a 32/17/2.1 agg and was somewhat of a station . Whenever I raised he always seemed to call. Flop bet seems small but I was trying to control the pot somewhat with top pair crap kicker.Turn bet he needs an Ace to continue.. dam hes called ....WTF am I doing with that river bet? It screams weakness and all it is going to be any good against is air ?
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG shidokan0 ($12.80)
CO arithmetica ($10.00)
BTN layski ($10.00)
SB sinci83 ($4.30)
BB Hero ($19.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB Five of Clubs King of Clubs
shidokan0 calls $0.10, 2 folds, sinci83 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, shidokan0 calls $0.30, sinci83 calls $0.30

Flop: King of Hearts Eight of Spades Two of Spades ($1.20, 3 players)
sinci83 checks, Hero bets $0.70, shidokan0 calls $0.70, sinci83 folds

Turn: Ace of Diamonds ($2.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, shidokan0 calls $1.50

River: Ten of Clubs ($5.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, shidokan0 raises to $3.75, Hero folds

Final Pot: $7.60

shidokan0 wins $10 ( won +$3.65 )
sinci83 lost -$0.40
Hero lost -$3.60

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hand 2 : Ok flop top pair with a good kicker,broadways , Ax and flushes are likely to continue. On the turn the flush draws have now come in and having paid too many off I didn't want to put any more in to this pot. He checks behind ....was he thinking I might check raise? River bricks ...I check and he bets .... Is he doing this with a weaker Ace? possibly with a set and flush.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG shidokan0 ($12.05)
UTG+1 arithmetica ($10.00)
CO coda88 ($10.00)
BTN CIENFUEG0S ($6.00)
SB sinci83 ($9.05)
BB Hero ($17.70)
[coda88 posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.25, 6 players) Hero is BB Queen of Clubs Ace of Spades
2 folds, coda88 checks, 1 fold, sinci83 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, coda88 calls $0.30, sinci83 folds

Flop: Eight of Diamonds King of Clubs Ace of Diamonds ($0.90, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, coda88 raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: Ten of Diamonds ($5.90, 2 players)
Hero checks, coda88 checks

River: Two of Clubs ($5.90, 2 players)
Hero checks, coda88 bets $3.35, Hero folds

Final Pot: $5.90

coda88 wins $9 ( won +$2.75 )
sinci83 lost -$0.10
Hero lost -$2.90

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Hand 3 ....villain is 17/6/1.5 flop top pair good kicker . Turn brings possible flush draws but doesn't really improve villains hand . so WTF with his raise? flopped straight? 76s gutshot and straight draws again , sets...AQ? ......calling this was likely to result in an all in situation on river without really being able to improve my hand.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG arithmetica ($10.30)
UTG+1 cooper1502 ($10.90)
CO Linkeklebe23 ($10.40)
BTN Moveran ($10.00)
SB Hero ($13.55)
BB shidokan0 ($9.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB Queen of Clubs King of Clubs
1 fold, cooper1502 calls $0.10, Linkeklebe23 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, shidokan0 calls $0.40, cooper1502 folds, Linkeklebe23 calls $0.40

Flop: Queen of Spades Eight of Hearts Ten of Diamonds ($1.60, 3 players)
Hero bets $1, shidokan0 folds, Linkeklebe23 calls $1

Turn: Two of Diamonds ($3.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, Linkeklebe23 raises to $4, Hero folds

Final Pot: $6.20

Linkeklebe23 wins $8.60 ( won +$3.10 )
Hero lost -$2.80
shidokan0 lost -$0.50
cooper1502 lost -$0.10
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Hand 1: I may call a small bet on the river but definitely not betting into him.

Hand 2-3: I play them the same but this may be one of my leaks. Like I was telling you, I feel like sometimes I'm too weak and let people bet me off my decent hands. I would like to see what some of the better players have to see about these because they could literally be hands I played.
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holy fuck .........down another 55$ today and roll stands at 425. My big hands just didnt stand up .

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Franona ($11.45)
CO WiredBomb ($15.80)
BTN Hero ($10.05)
SB Dan_AA_Ray ($9.40)
BB honesty44 ($18.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN Ten of Spades Ten of Diamonds
Franona raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: Ace of Diamonds Ten of Clubs Eight of Clubs ($0.95, 2 players)
Franona bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: Queen of Spades ($2.35, 2 players)
Franona bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4, Franona goes all-in $10.35, Hero goes all-in $4.95

River: King of Hearts ($21.65, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.25
Hero shows: Ten of Spades Ten of Diamonds
Franona shows: Queen of Hearts Queen of Diamonds

Franona wins $20.65 ( won +$9.20 )
Hero lost -$10.05

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this was just spew
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG DaddyNolan ($11.10)
UTG+1 haryy2 ($10.90)
CO Patrizio777 ($4.40)
BTN Hero ($20.60)
SB Yanasaur ($10.00)
BB r2pkr ($9.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Ace of Diamonds Jack of Spades
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, r2pkr calls $0.30

Flop: Ace of Clubs Five of Diamonds Four of Hearts ($0.85, 2 players)
r2pkr checks, Hero bets $0.70, r2pkr raises to $2, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: Eight of Diamonds ($4.85, 2 players)
r2pkr bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

River: Ten of Clubs ($9.35, 2 players)
r2pkr goes all-in $4.80, Hero calls $4.80

Final Pot: $18.95
Hero shows: Ace of Diamonds Jack of Spades
r2pkr shows: Queen of Hearts Ace of Hearts

r2pkr wins $18.05 ( won +$8.60 )
Hero lost -$9.45

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got the money in as 90% equity...
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG haryy2 ($10.00)
UTG+1 BikezCrazy ($7.05)
CO Hero ($10.15)
BTN Sennap ($9.60)
SB FelipeWang ($19.00)
BB bankiros ($11.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Three of Clubs Three of Spades
1 fold, BikezCrazy calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, BikezCrazy calls $0.30

Main Pot ($0.95)
BikezCrazy: 49.10% (EV = $0.07)
Hero: 50.90% (EV = $0.08)

Flop: Ace of Hearts Six of Clubs King of Spades ($0.95, 2 players)
BikezCrazy checks, Hero checks

Main Pot ($0.95)
BikezCrazy: 92.00% (EV = $0.87)
Hero: 8.00% (EV = $0.08)

Turn: Three of Hearts ($0.95, 2 players)
BikezCrazy checks, Hero bets $0.70, BikezCrazy raises to $2.10, Hero raises to $7, BikezCrazy goes all-in $4.55

Main Pot ($14.25)
BikezCrazy: 9.10% (EV = -$5.35)
Hero: 90.90% (EV = $5.95)

Side Pot #1 ($0.35)
Hero: 100.00% (EV = $0.00)

River: King of Hearts ($14.60, 2 players)

Main Pot ($14.25)
BikezCrazy: 100.00% (EV = $14.25)
Hero: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)

Side Pot #1 ($0.35)
Hero: 100.00% (EV = $0.35)

Final Pot: $14.25
BikezCrazy shows: Six of Diamonds King of Diamonds
Hero shows: Three of Clubs Three of Spades

BikezCrazy wins $13.55 ( won +$6.50 )
Hero wins $0.35 ( lost -$7.05 )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

this I thought i may be ahead but with oputs to improve.Villain was 37/7
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG lekkerding11 ($6.95)
UTG+1 Mendap ($10.10)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN twuining ($11.85)
SB Master_X26 ($15.60)
BB Geldhai ($26.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO Ace of Hearts Three of Hearts
lekkerding11 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, lekkerding11 calls $0.30

Main Pot ($0.95)
Hero: 33.20% (EV = -$0.08)
lekkerding11: 66.80% (EV = $0.23)

Flop: Seven of Hearts Three of Diamonds Seven of Diamonds ($0.95, 2 players)
lekkerding11 checks, Hero bets $0.70, lekkerding11 calls $0.70

Main Pot ($2.35)
Hero: 26.90% (EV = -$0.07)
lekkerding11: 73.10% (EV = $1.02)

Turn: Eight of Hearts ($2.35, 2 players)
lekkerding11 checks, Hero bets $1.70, lekkerding11 goes all-in $5.85, Hero calls $4.15

Main Pot ($14.05)
Hero: 36.40% (EV = -$0.74)
lekkerding11: 63.60% (EV = $3.09)

River: Ten of Spades ($14.05, 2 players)

Main Pot ($14.05)
Hero: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
lekkerding11: 100.00% (EV = $14.05)

Final Pot: $14.05
lekkerding11 shows: Five of Diamonds Five of Hearts
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts Three of Hearts

lekkerding11 wins $13.40 ( won +$6.45 )
Hero lost -$6.95

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

villain 24/14

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.55)
UTG+1 WKoA ($10.15)
CO hd_belkins ($10.95)
BTN bankiros ($14.25)
SB audifisch ($10.00)
BB Mendap ($33.50)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG Queen of Hearts Queen of Spades
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, hd_belkins raises to $1.20, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: Five of Diamonds Seven of Spades Jack of Hearts ($2.55, 2 players)
Hero checks, hd_belkins bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: Eight of Diamonds ($5.55, 2 players)
Hero checks, hd_belkins checks

River: Eight of Spades ($5.55, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, hd_belkins calls $3.50

Final Pot: $12.55
Hero shows: Queen of Hearts Queen of Spades
hd_belkins shows: King of Hearts King of Clubs

hd_belkins wins $11.95 ( won +$5.75 )
Hero lost -$6.20


-------------------------------------------------------

villain was a 46/0 fish.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG SGCharles ($1.20)
UTG+1 haryy2 ($10.00)
CO lorenzzozo ($6.10)
BTN Hero ($13.15)
SB 11zeus11 ($7.80)
BB FelipeWang ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Clubs Queen of Diamonds
SGCharles calls $0.10, haryy2 raises to $0.50, lorenzzozo calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.70, 2 folds, SGCharles goes all-in $1.10, haryy2 folds, lorenzzozo calls $1.20

Main Pot ($4.25)
Hero: 61.00% (EV = $1.39)
SGCharles: 28.00% (EV = -$0.01)
lorenzzozo: 11.00% (EV = -$0.73)

Side Pot #1 ($1.00)
Hero: 88.60% (EV = $0.39)
lorenzzozo: 11.40% (EV = -$0.39)

Flop: Nine of Diamonds Eight of Diamonds Five of Spades ($5.25, 3 players)
lorenzzozo checks, Hero bets $5.20, lorenzzozo goes all-in $4.40

Main Pot ($4.25)
Hero: 58.90% (EV = $1.30)
SGCharles: 23.80% (EV = $1.01)
lorenzzozo: 17.30% (EV = -$0.46)

Side Pot #1 ($9.80)
Hero: 83.20% (EV = $3.25)
lorenzzozo: 16.80% (EV = -$2.75)

Side Pot #2 ($0.80)
Hero: 100.00% (EV = $0.00)

Turn: Four of Spades ($14.85, 3 players)

Main Pot ($4.25)
Hero: 78.60% (EV = $3.34)
SGCharles: 11.90% (EV = $0.51)
lorenzzozo: 9.50% (EV = $0.40)

Side Pot #1 ($9.80)
Hero: 90.90% (EV = $8.91)
lorenzzozo: 9.10% (EV = $0.89)

Side Pot #2 ($0.80)
Hero: 100.00% (EV = $0.80)

River: Ten of Clubs ($14.85, 3 players)

Main Pot ($4.25)
Hero: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
SGCharles: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
lorenzzozo: 100.00% (EV = $4.25)

Side Pot #1 ($9.80)
Hero: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
lorenzzozo: 100.00% (EV = $9.80)

Side Pot #2 ($0.80)
Hero: 100.00% (EV = $0.80)

Final Pot: $14.05
lorenzzozo shows: Jack of Spades Queen of Hearts
Hero shows: Queen of Clubs Queen of Diamonds
SGCharles shows: Ace of Diamonds Eight of Spades

lorenzzozo wins $13.40 ( won +$7.30 )
Hero wins $0.80 ( lost -$6.10 )
SGCharles lost -$1.20
haryy2 lost -$0.50

----------------------------------------------------------------------

should I have found a fold on the turn to the raise?. Villain was 18/16/25

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG CrystalBall9 ($10.00)
UTG+1 Patrizio777 ($6.00)
CO Jeagi ($7.75)
BTN fresh_illo ($10.50)
SB ahmet420 ($33.65)
BB Hero ($14.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB King of Clubs Four of Clubs
CrystalBall9 raises to $0.40, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: Five of Clubs Queen of Clubs Three of Spades ($0.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, CrystalBall9 calls $0.70

Turn: Six of Diamonds ($2.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, CrystalBall9 raises to $4.20, Hero calls $2.80

River: Nine of Hearts ($10.65, 2 players)
Hero checks, CrystalBall9 goes all-in $4.70, Hero folds

Final Pot: $10.65

CrystalBall9 wins $14.85 ( won +$4.85 )
Hero lost -$5.30
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Is retaining Silver star worth playing when you're off your A game?
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Post Posted: Tue, 28 Jul 2009, 9:14pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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TT - Flop is a clear raise vs. almost every villain

AJ - You said it

33 - cbet flop plz

A3s - "I thought I might be ahead but I had outs to improve" is not a reason to bet (or are you talking about after he shoves?). Is he calling your turn bet with worse? If not turn is a check behind.

QQ - Fine, although I may bet slightly less on the river

QQ - yep

K4s - wtf are you doing preflop? Why are you donking this flop? Turn call is fine with 15 outs it seems close but I think you need to win ~$2 on the river every time you hit for call to be profitable.
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Post Posted: Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 5:30am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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thanks for the feedback Badgers.
Quote:

TT - Flop is a clear raise vs. almost every villain

I actually answered these out of order so some of the response to the 33 hand applies here too.FPS kicked in here i think, and wanted him to put more mony in before i raised it up.In reality there were flush draws,broadways had gutshots, and J9 had open enders. Raising would at least have given me some fold equity.
Quote:

AJ - You said it

what am i beating on the flop thats raising me??? AK AQ A5 A4 have me beaten , A2 A3 have gutshots A6-A10 i beat,I should have folded to the flop raise.

Quote:

33 - cbet flop plz

I think this comes about from Jym's grinder school video which I might have misinterpreted over time since I watched it .I was set or forget sort of mode once the raise was called. If I'd cbet would he have raised as he did which would then be an easy fold . If he called then I think the hand is going to play out the same way.I think that when I wrote this it was right at the start of my downswing
Quote:

1.
I think I'm cbetting less than I was , actually I've just checked ...I am .....63% before last week , 50% this week.
What ??? you're saying, we've always been told to cbet. I think I'm just cbetting more effectively especially when out of position and I've missed the flop or connected weakly with it when in position. Why bloat the pot ? It may just check round and go for a delayed cbet on the turn or I may connect . If someone comes out betting strongly on the flop and I've got nothing and no strong draws . hell its only 4bbs I'm down ...toss it and win a bigger pot elsewhere.
If someone comes betting weakly at the flop I make a decision whether to call (is it a fish) or fold (normally) or occasionally raise with overcards , draws and a gut feel that the bettor has very little either (rare).
I was going to write a whole spiel about how I think that this has affected how people react to my play but I'm still working it through at the moment. One effect is that I am considerably strengthening my cbetting hands . Consider someone cbetting 90-100% . They only connect with the flop 1/3 of the time so 2/3 of the time they are bluffing.With a strongish hand on the flop it makes it easier to raise them and since they have air 2/3 of they'll fold a lot of the time. On the other hand , by cbetting 50% , I appears that I have a hand 2/3 of the time and bluffs 1/3 of the time so that when I am cbetting I can bet flop turn and river as I have a hand that has connected with the flop. How much I'm betting obviously depends on how well I connected with the flop , how well I think they connected and general reads on the opponent.
I'm further manipulating my cbetting range OOP by check call/check raise depending on opponents . Therefore it appears from my 50 % cbet stat that I hit the flop 2/3 time in reality it may only be half the time as some of the time that I hit the flop I'll be letting aggro players do the betting and getting money in with air thinking that they can bluff me off the pot since they'll have seen me raise pre and having check folded some flops before reraising them either on the flop or turn.

I think that this has been a major cause of my problems . i'd cut back on my cbetting on my upswing and was hitting hands that stood up. This gave me the impression that I should be cbetting less in reality its turned me into quite a passive player postflop.I'm just not cbetting enough and its resulting in me check calling a lot. When I do raise on the flop people are just getting out of the way a lot of the time or I' m getting reraised.
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A3s - "I thought I might be ahead but I had outs to improve" is not a reason to bet (or are you talking about after he shoves?). Is he calling your turn bet with worse? If not turn is a check behind.

I meant after he shoves.Whilst reading your comment , i got to "after he shoves" and went back to look at the hand and thought I should have checked behind there, try and hit the flush ,otherwise try to see a cheap showndown .Then read the rest of your comment.
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QQ - Fine, although I may bet slightly less on the river

QQ - yep

K4s - wtf are you doing preflop? Why are you donking this flop? Turn call is fine with 15 outs it seems close but I think you need to win ~$2 on the river every time you hit for call to be profitable

No idea how I called that Pre and calling it turned into spew.
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Post Posted: Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 5:22am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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last nights session.


nearly broke down through the $400 level but I think last nights session kicked a few things back into my brain. Tried to play a lot tighter at the start and to steal a bit less but that didnt work out to well.
In the middle of the session things seemed to click,was cbetting my pre raises a lot more and had some hands and generally felt happy with the way the rising part of the graph went. Upped my 3 betting and One table had a guy on my left who was constantly3betting my button raises. 4bet him with JJ and stacked him and that quietened him down a lot. Couple of coolers at the end with villains hitting rivers but I think I've turned things around a bit . Identified some areas that I need to work on .
Roll is now at 429$ and need another 32 VPPs to retain silver. Should do it but an early morning start tomorrow so won't get so many hands in tonight. Won't be playing anything like the number of hands next month because I'll be busy at work .
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oh lordy. Still lagging it up i see.

Hi keith/guys... i'm back... i think!
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hey Andy ,,,,,,good to see you back , as you can see its been a roller coaster for me this month but you'll love the rate that you get vpps on the new 6 max scheme.

woooo looks like i got momentum in the correct direction. 754 hands for a profit of $51.40. I got cards but I also felt that I played well ....laid down some top pair hands , folded some AK multiway hands that missed flop and would have missed by the river in a big pot. did fairly well at getting an extra bet out of someone.

I also passed through 1200 Vpps tonight so feel pleased that I actually managed to achieve a 'proper' silver star as opposed to the previous uk special one especially 3 or 4 tabling 10NL. Managed to do it in just over 23k hands.and its also my most hands in a month so far.

heres the session graph.



this includes some of last nights as well , so its just the last 750 hands .
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since early morning start loading lorry then nowt to do , fired up the tables and did an hour and a half session. 400 hands for $20 profit and the bankroll back over 500 at $500.88.
It seems weird to me that i have big downswings , play through them whilst trying to work out what i'm doing wrong and then kick into a massive heater to recover and hopefully move on up to a higher baseline on the bankroll and then churn.
I definately feel that i was playing way to passively on my last downswing and that allowed villains to catch their cards on turn and river cheaply to draw out on me , coupled with some bad luck and coupled with some incredibly bad play on som individual hands.The upside is that I have now learnt how to make money by folding (hopefully) .
this hand just screamed over pair or set to me , or was it too nitty to fold

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Sandheide ($4.05)
UTG+1 Hero ($14.25)
CO Splitti77 ($4.90)
BTN JoeriP ($14.20)
SB Pikik ($10.05)
BB d4nnyd4n ($9.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Nine of Hearts Nine of Clubs
Sandheide raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds, Pikik calls $0.35, d4nnyd4n calls $0.30

Flop: Six of Spades Three of Diamonds Eight of Clubs ($1.60, 4 players)
Pikik checks, d4nnyd4n bets $0.20, Sandheide raises to $0.80, Hero folds, Pikik folds, d4nnyd4n calls $0.60

Turn: Six of Hearts ($3.20, 2 players)
d4nnyd4n checks, Sandheide bets $0.80, d4nnyd4n folds

Final Pot: $3.20

Sandheide wins $3.85 ( won +$1.85 )
Pikik lost -$0.40
d4nnyd4n lost -$1.20
Hero lost -$0.40
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since early morning start loading lorry then nowt to do , fired up the tables and did an hour and a half session. 400 hands for $20 profit and the bankroll back over 500 at $500.88.
It seems weird to me that i have big downswings , play through them whilst trying to work out what i'm doing wrong and then kick into a massive heater to recover and hopefully move on up to a higher baseline on the bankroll and then churn.
I definately feel that i was playing way to passively on my last downswing and that allowed villains to catch their cards on turn and river cheaply to draw out on me , coupled with some bad luck and coupled with some incredibly bad play on som individual hands.The upside is that I have now learnt how to make money by folding (hopefully) .
this hand just screamed over pair or set to me , or was it too nitty to fold

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Sandheide ($4.05)
UTG+1 Hero ($14.25)
CO Splitti77 ($4.90)
BTN JoeriP ($14.20)
SB Pikik ($10.05)
BB d4nnyd4n ($9.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Nine of Hearts Nine of Clubs
Sandheide raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds, Pikik calls $0.35, d4nnyd4n calls $0.30

Flop: Six of Spades Three of Diamonds Eight of Clubs ($1.60, 4 players)
Pikik checks, d4nnyd4n bets $0.20, Sandheide raises to $0.80, Hero folds, Pikik folds, d4nnyd4n calls $0.60

Turn: Six of Hearts ($3.20, 2 players)
d4nnyd4n checks, Sandheide bets $0.80, d4nnyd4n folds

Final Pot: $3.20

Sandheide wins $3.85 ( won +$1.85 )
Pikik lost -$0.40
d4nnyd4n lost -$1.20
Hero lost -$0.40
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another disaster night last night 349 hands and down 50$.quite a few coolersand i was getting reraised left right and centre, folding a lot but I just ended up shutting down . And contemplating ....for most of today as well leading to the next post .
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hey Keith, damn your swings. They're as high as they are low and vice versa! Me, i never ever ever get 10nl heaters... but then the same goes for extended coolers. I do get periods of only winning tiny amounts, that's my poker karma.

Say, could you be a doll and pm me some details about that 6max points thingy you mentioned?

did you do the UK and Ireland freeroll? i did, just finished about 3500th out of 10.4k people to win $8. Are are MTT that good? paying first 60% of players?
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