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Posted: Thu, 16 Nov 2006, 4:45am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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| So you think Party is still worth it for non-US ppl? |
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Posted: Thu, 16 Nov 2006, 10:38am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
Posts: 492
WPP: 41
Location: Huddersfield, England
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Yeah i'd like to know the same Q.
Currently play Bodog, but only 3 tables at once sucks so if party is still very fishy then ill be looking to move back from Bodog. I play 50NL btw |
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Posted: Thu, 16 Nov 2006, 12:32pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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Location: over there
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| Genitruc wrote: | | So you think Party is still worth it for non-US ppl? |
It's at least as fishy, if not more so then it used to be. The main difference you'll notice is that all the regular TAGs and 2+2ers are gone, most of them at least.
There's still plenty of tables too. I'm not sure about higher then 400NL but you should be fine.
The only major gripe I have is the 6table restriction. I got a call from my Party VIP representative the other day though and he says he has a list as long as his arm of the names of people complaining about this and they are working to get it abolished.
Did you leave party when they banned americans? |
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Posted: Thu, 16 Nov 2006, 1:17pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
Posts: 492
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Location: Huddersfield, England
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Yeah, i played for about a week after USA players left and the games seemed a lot tigheter, easy to pick up small pots but i'd rather play the 200BB pots myself  . I might check it out as i'm moving money off Bodog and heading to stars, thinking about party/stars 50:50. Thanks bud, gl anyway. Spent half hour earlier reading this thread, you done reaaal goot  |
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Posted: Thu, 16 Nov 2006, 3:33pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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I left but based on what you're saying it sounds better than Full Tilt, even without Rakeback.
thx for the cue Irish |
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Posted: Thu, 16 Nov 2006, 6:55pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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I've played FT too for a couple of thousand hands, it's way fishier then FT. FT is a nitfest in comparison.
And you can get Rakeback pretty easy. pm Triptanes. |
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Posted: Thu, 16 Nov 2006, 7:04pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 573
WPP: 66
Location: Sweden
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| Irisheyes wrote: | | Genitruc wrote: | | So you think Party is still worth it for non-US ppl? |
It's at least as fishy, if not more so then it used to be. The main difference you'll notice is that all the regular TAGs and 2+2ers are gone, most of them at least.
There's still plenty of tables too. I'm not sure about higher then 400NL but you should be fine.
The only major gripe I have is the 6table restriction. I got a call from my Party VIP representative the other day though and he says he has a list as long as his arm of the names of people complaining about this and they are working to get it abolished.
Did you leave party when they banned americans? | What's a Party VIP representative and how do I get one?  |
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Posted: Thu, 16 Nov 2006, 7:09pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
Posts: 492
WPP: 41
Location: Huddersfield, England
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| Wtf, PO doesn't work on party now?? |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Nov 2006, 8:49am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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Location: over there
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| sandstorm wrote: | | Irisheyes wrote: | | Genitruc wrote: | | So you think Party is still worth it for non-US ppl? |
It's at least as fishy, if not more so then it used to be. The main difference you'll notice is that all the regular TAGs and 2+2ers are gone, most of them at least.
There's still plenty of tables too. I'm not sure about higher then 400NL but you should be fine.
The only major gripe I have is the 6table restriction. I got a call from my Party VIP representative the other day though and he says he has a list as long as his arm of the names of people complaining about this and they are working to get it abolished.
Did you leave party when they banned americans? | What's a Party VIP representative and how do I get one? |
I'm not sure, this guy just rang me on my mobile and told me that thats who he was. I guess it's just something I get because I'm a high volume player. |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Nov 2006, 8:54am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| ChrisTheFish wrote: | | Wtf, PO doesn't work on party now?? |
Yeah they say they'll have a patch out within the next few days. Keep checking the PA website and 2+2 Software forum. |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Nov 2006, 9:44am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Location: Huddersfield, England
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| Irisheyes wrote: | | ChrisTheFish wrote: | | Wtf, PO doesn't work on party now?? |
Yeah they say they'll have a patch out within the next few days. Keep checking the PA website and 2+2 Software forum. |
ok, thanks. |
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Posted: Sat, 18 Nov 2006, 12:08pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 1109
WPP: 96
Location: Kokkedal, Denmark
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| PartyPoker is (at least NL100) softer now after the bill than before. |
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Posted: Sat, 18 Nov 2006, 2:01pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 236
WPP: 95
Location: in a van by the river
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| Irisheyes wrote: | So I was up at 4am last night (as you do) and I decided I'd try and do my first EV calculation ever. I explain what I'm doing as I go along and why I'm doing it.
If you would like to discuss any part of this analysis (aka show me where I went wrong) please feel free to do so in this thread. I'd especially like criticism of the various assumptions I make later on in the calculations. Also much thanks to arkana for helping me to get some of the figures right.
The Situation
The situation it relates to is calculating the EV of floating with gutshot draws.
Say this is 100NL 6max with effective stacks of $100.
Opponent in UTG+1 raises to $4.
We call OTB with 6  7 .
Blinds fold.
Pot: $9.50
Flop: J 3  4 
Opponent bets $7.
Our decision wheather or not to call $7 into a $16.50 pot with a gutshot.
How do we go about calculating the EV of this call?
To be able to tell what we should do, we need to look at what could happen on the turn if we decide to call. There is one major factor which will influence the action on the turn, that is wheather or not we hit our gutshot.
We have 4 outs to hit our GS which means that out chances of hitting are roughly 8%. Lets start creating our equation.
EV = (chance we miss our GS)(turn action 1) + (chance we hit our GS)(turn action 2)
EV = (0.92)(turn action 1) + (0.08)(turn action 2)
Now we must examine the various actions that could occur on the turn card. Our opponent has four options available to him on the turn:
1) He can lead out,
2) He can check with the intention of folding,
3) He can check with the intention of raising,
4) He can check with the intention of calling.
I'm going to make some assumptions now in order to simplify the equation a bit.
1) I'm assuming that when we get checkraised we are blown off our hand, in a pot odds sense.
2) Everytime our opponent checks the turn, we bet $16 in attempt to take the pot.
3) When we get check/called we have no chance of improving on the river.
4) If we make our straight on the turn, we can only win the money in the pot plus the initial lead bet, call or check/raise. In other words, if we get check/called on the turn, we cannot amke any more money on the river.
The turn actions when we miss our draw are as follows:
(x)(-$7) <-- y is the % of times the villan leads the turn. We fold, losing our %7 flop investment.
(y)($16.50) <-- this describes the situation when our opponent checks the turn and we win the pot with a bet. x = the percentage of times he checks the turn with the intention of folding.
(z)(-$23) <-- z is the % of times our opponent checks, we bet to try and take the pot and he then raises, forcing us to fold. We lost our $7 flop call and the $16 we bet on the turn to try and take the pot.
(r)(-$23) <-- r is the % of times our opponent check/calls us on the turn. We lose our $7 from the flop and our stab at the pot on the turn. Remember that we can't improve on the river.
turn action 1 = [(x)(-$7) + (y)($16.50) + (z)(-$23) + (r)(-$23)]
Similarly, the turn actions when we hit our draw on the turn are as follows:
(x)($32.5) <-- Here I'm assuming that we will win $32.5 (including what is already in the pot) when we hit and he leads into us with a bet of $16.
(y)($16.50) <-- same as in the turn action 1 situation.
(z)($101.5) <-- This time when he check/raises us, we have the nuts and we win his stack. Note that I'm assuming that he never draws out on us after the money goes in.
(r)($32.5) <-- Here our opponent check calls us when we are ahead. He calls a bet of $16 on the turn and we win that.
turn action 2 = [ (x)($32.5) + (y)($16.50) + (z)($101.5) + (r)($32.5) ]
Now, subbing in to the first equation:
EV = (0.92)[(x)(-$7) + (y)($16.50) + (z)(-$23) + (r)(-$23)] + (0.08)[ (x)($32.5) + (y)($16.50) + (z)($101.5) + (r)($32.5)]
But what does this mean?
At this point we can set about assigning various turn action percentages to the opponent.
Remember:
x = the percentage of times our opponent leads out on the turn.
y = the percentage of times our opponent check/folds the turn.
z = the percentage of times our opponent check/raises on the turn.
r = the percentage of times our opponent check/calls on the turn.
Also: x + y + z + r= 1
Here are some examples:
with x=25%; y=40%; z=5%; r=40% (A passive calling station)
The expected value of the move is -$4.98
with x=25%; y=60%; z=5%; r=10% (A passive weak player)
The expected value of the move is $4.4
with x=25%; y=50%; z=5%; r=20% (A passive, slightly less weak player)
The expected value of the move is $0.77
with x=35%; y=25%; z=15%; r=25% (A tricky, aggressive TAG)
The expected value of the move is -$6.84
Conclusion
The biggest thing I've noticed from playing around with this equation in a spreadsheet is that the opponent tendancy that effects the EV of the move the most is y, the percentage of times he check/folds on the turn. If you can find an opponent who likes to do this, then using this move on him is very profitable.
I think it's also important to notice how unprofitable this move is agains a tricky opponent who has a large range of lines he can use on the turn. If he varies his actions, regardless of his hand, it becomes very difficult for us to play against him. |
props on writing this |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 5:23am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Is this too tight?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
SB ($507.35)
BB ($200)
UTG ($181.50)
MP ($279.40)
CO ($399.55)
Hero ($408.20)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 , 9 . SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, MP calls $8.
Flop: ($23) 9 , 3, A (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $16, MP calls $16.
Turn: ($55) Q (2 players)
MP bets $10, Hero raises to $52, MP raises to $94, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $201
Results in white below:
No showdown. MP wins $201. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 6:20am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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WPP: 176
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| Irisheyes wrote: | | Is this too tight? |
Seeing that next to your avatar lead my thinking down the wrong track there for a bit...
But what on earth was that about? Either $200NL is a completely different game to $100NL or you had the read of the century.
Or you misclicked.
Or you're a donkey. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 6:40am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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that s 2 tight
it looks a lot more like 333 than AAA |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 6:57am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 06 May 2005
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Location: Sweden
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| Why did you fold? Really? :/ |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 7:16am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 7:31am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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Location: On the grind
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horrible fold  |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 11:31am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Location: Huddersfield, England
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 2:38pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: over there
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| lol I am the king of timing out!! |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Nov 2006, 8:10pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Location: wisconsin
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| ChrisTheFish wrote: | | Im thinking AQ. | |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Nov 2006, 1:47pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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BOOM!!! Pwned Party 400NL for 3k$ in a 5 hour session last night. Moving up there full time for the forseeable future as long as I don't go into nosedive mode again. It's good to be back baby!
BR = $14,700
I running good. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Nov 2006, 2:08pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 14 Aug 2006
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WPP: 71
Location: NYC
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| Awesome, keep us posted... |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Nov 2006, 2:41pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
Posts: 492
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Location: Huddersfield, England
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| Lol, good job man, variance is funnnn |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Nov 2006, 12:31am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Hahaha funny hand. I've been waiting for this to happen since the day I first played poker. Finally.....
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
SB ($251.96)
Hero ($653.14)
UTG ($578.11)
Button ($660.28)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 2. SB posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Button calls $4, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks,
Flop: ($42) 2, 7, 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, Button raises to $20, SB folds, Hero calls $8.
Turn: ($42) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $36, Button calls $36.
River: ($114) T (2 players)
Hero bets $69 , Button folds.
Final Pot: $114
Results in white below:
Hero has 7d 2s (full house, sevens full of twos).
Button doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins $114. |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Nov 2006, 12:45am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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A hand I played earlier that I liked. I feel I got the maximum from this guy and played it well.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP ($234.82)
CO ($890.06)
Button ($558.30)
SB ($370.30)
Hero ($680.61)
UTG ($1465.90)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A. SB posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, Button raises to $12, 1 fold, Hero raises to $40, Button calls $32.
Flop: ($90) 8, A, 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $54, Hero calls $54.
Turn: ($198) K (2 players)
Hero bets $100, Button calls $100.
River: ($398) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $100, Button calls $100.
Final Pot: $598
Results in white below:
Hero has Qh As (one pair, aces).
Button has Qs Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $598. |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Nov 2006, 12:48am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Deep stacks against a 50/20/lagtard.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
CO ($338.90)
Button ($432.30)
SB ($782.19)
Hero ($705.70)
UTG ($399.40)
MP ($183.76)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K. SB posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $20, CO calls $20, SB calls $20.
Flop: ($72) 8, 3, 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $56, CO calls $56, SB calls $56.
Turn: ($240) 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $165, CO folds, SB calls $165.
River: ($570) Q (2 players)
SB bets $250, Hero calls $250.
Final Pot: $1070
Results below:
SB has 5d 6h (high card, queen).
Hero has Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $1070. |
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Posted: Fri, 24 Nov 2006, 5:22am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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HOLY SHIT OMG I just had my biggest day ever. Ended off up $4275 for the night. It was about 5200 hands of Party 400NL. I'm on such a heater at the moment!
Here's my graph for the month so far:
Thats all 200 and 400NL. I think there's about 1k$ missing from the graph because of PT missing some hands. |
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Posted: Mon, 27 Nov 2006, 6:24pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Played a €330 live donkament over the weekend. It was a pretty cool experience and I took home 7th place from a field of 75. I was so pissed at the stupid way I went out though...
Basically its the final table and I'm pretty comfortable stacked and feeling good about going deeper into the big money places. I'm in LP and I look down at A4s and decide I'll raise to steal the blinds as the table was playing really tight. So I say raise, look up and thats when it dawns on me that some guy has already raised to 4x in early position (I have about 12bb stack).
So now I'm screwed and committed to raising huge with a weak hand when I'd really love to fold. Anyway I decide that pushing is better then minraising half my stack off and I get crushed by QQ. Basically it was a lack of experience and tierdness mistake which cost me a 1st place.
I sat down at a €500NL cash game afer and made almost the same in 30mins as I had at 14 hours of playing the stupid tournement. Whatever, live donkaments.
In other news I've been breakeven online for about 2k hands since my last post. Nothing to worry about.. I promise I'll be back pwning soon. |
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Posted: Tue, 28 Nov 2006, 2:11am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 26 Jul 2005
Posts: 1523
WPP: 113
Location: Downswinging holla!
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Posted: Wed, 29 Nov 2006, 2:06pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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JUST BROKE THE 20k BANKROLL MARK FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!! |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Nov 2006, 2:09pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
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WPP: 138
Location: My ice is polarized
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| weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Nov 2006, 3:05pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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Location: donkaments weeeeeeeeeeee
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| nh's Irish! keep it going |
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Posted: Wed, 29 Nov 2006, 4:02pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| OK well I was through it till like 10 mins ago. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 2:13pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 06 May 2005
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| Irisheyes wrote: |
JUST BROKE THE 20k BANKROLL MARK FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!! |
Lol, I did it today. The exact same thing. Holla! |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 4:19pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| You got any plans for 3/6 anytime soon? |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 4:31pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Posts: 998
WPP: 176
Location: Sweden
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| Irisheyes wrote: |
JUST BROKE THE 20k BANKROLL MARK FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!! |
Just so you know:
You = 20k / 75k = 26%
Me = 2k8 / 7k5 = 37%
I'm obviously clearly winning
BTW: Also grats on the acheivement.
And did you change your Party SN? |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 5:09pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 06 May 2005
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Location: Sweden
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| Irisheyes wrote: | | You got any plans for 3/6 anytime soon? | Nah, dunno. I'm still not happy with my play here. I suck at getting reads etc, I really do. Same thing with hand reading. I feel I need to be able to explain my plays a bit more or something And I would like 40 buyins for 3/6. And you? |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 5:47pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Anosmic wrote: | | Irisheyes wrote: |
JUST BROKE THE 20k BANKROLL MARK FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!! |
Just so you know:
You = 20k / 75k = 26%
Me = 2k8 / 7k5 = 37%
I'm obviously clearly winning
BTW: Also grats on the acheivement.
And did you change your Party SN? |
haha and I had like 3 months head start!!
I think I'm like 35k in though if I take account of withdrawals so keep grinding!!! |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 5:56pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3659
WPP: 76
Location: over there
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| sandstorm wrote: | | Irisheyes wrote: | | You got any plans for 3/6 anytime soon? | Nah, dunno. I'm still not happy with my play here. I suck at getting reads etc, I really do. Same thing with hand reading. I feel I need to be able to explain my plays a bit more or something And I would like 40 buyins for 3/6. And you? |
Yeah I kinda feel the same.
I played like 70k hands of 400NL during the summer at like 1ptBB/100 before moving back to 200NL for ages. I believe I'm a better player now but because I've basically blasted through 400NL running really hot this time around, it's hard to tell how much better I really am and how big my edge is. So I'm gonna play some more hands at 400NL and see how things go.
I've had a look at the tables though and it's pretty much all the same regs up there as at 2/4. I'm planning on doing some datamining and if I can find soft tables I'll take some shots for sure. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 5:58pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3659
WPP: 76
Location: over there
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| Anosmic wrote: |
And did you change your Party SN? |
Yeah I changed it the other day. I'm still contemplating wheather or not I want it public though. Anybody got any thoughts on this? |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 6:08pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3659
WPP: 76
Location: over there
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I'm happy to say that November was my best month yet by a long way. I ran so hot right the way through. Unfortunatly I cant get a grapt up because I changed my SN a few days ago buy the total profit figure is in the 14 - 16k mark. It's been a fucking brilliant ride.
BR = $22,200 |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Nov 2006, 6:45pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3659
WPP: 76
Location: over there
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Instead of always posting hands I played well, here's a hand from today I fucked up really badly.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
Hero ($1076.90)
BB ($347.21)
UTG ($336.75)
MP ($680.30)
Button ($193.60)
Preflop: Hero is SB with T, 9. Hero posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, MP raises to $16, Button calls $16, Hero (poster) calls $14, 1 fold.
Flop: ($52) J, Q, J (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $44, Button folds, Hero calls $44.
Turn: ($140) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $92, MP calls $92.
River: ($324) K (2 players)
Hero bets $165, MP calls $680.30 (All-In), Hero calls $363.30.
Final Pot: $1532.60
Results in white below:
Hero has Td 9d (straight, king high).
MP has Ks Jc (full house, jacks full of kings).
Outcome: MP wins $1380.60. Hero wins $152. |
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Posted: Sat, 02 Dec 2006, 9:13am Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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| so have you made 75 bucks yet? |
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Posted: Sat, 02 Dec 2006, 8:04pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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| PS - How are you still using Poker Patterns? Whenever I try to use it, it says "Poker Patterns has expired." |
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Posted: Mon, 04 Dec 2006, 9:47am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3659
WPP: 76
Location: over there
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| givememyleg wrote: | | PS - How are you still using Poker Patterns? Whenever I try to use it, it says "Poker Patterns has expired." |
I dunno it just works. It's a free program, how can it expire? |
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Posted: Mon, 04 Dec 2006, 10:06am Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 4381
WPP: 117
Location: ISHPERMING MISHIGEN
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| Irisheyes wrote: | | givememyleg wrote: | | PS - How are you still using Poker Patterns? Whenever I try to use it, it says "Poker Patterns has expired." |
I dunno it just works. It's a free program, how can it expire? |
I have no idea... but I remember there being a thread about it a while back and that's when midas told me to just download Poker Grapher, but I liked Poker Patterns more. |
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Posted: Mon, 04 Dec 2006, 10:37am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
Posts: 3173
WPP: 88
Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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| Reinstall it, that worked for me. |
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Posted: Tue, 05 Dec 2006, 4:04am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3659
WPP: 76
Location: over there
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A rather extreme semi-bluff:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
Hero ($481.62)
Button ($120.10)
SB ($430.50)
BB ($423.20)
UTG ($232.36)
MP ($451.60)
Preflop: Hero is CO with T, J. SB posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $14, 1 fold.
Flop: ($36) 6, 8, 7 (2 players)
SB bets $16, Hero raises to $52, SB calls $36.
Turn: ($140) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $36, Hero raises to $115, SB calls $79.
River: ($370) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero calls $481.62 (All-In), SB folds.
Final Pot: $851.62
Results below:
Hero has Td Jc (high card, queen).
Outcome: Hero wins $851.62. |
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