Operation One Million dollars!!!!

Yeah I've considered that but I think I'd be too bored.

Which bit don't you like?

You seem to have a solid basic game. I think you just need to get more adept at smallball play and be able to id profitable re-raise and steal situations mostly from accurate hand reading. It all adds up. This might be easier if you cut down a few tables.

In your situation I would move down to build back confidense.

Good luck man.

Another squeeze play I messed up. This guy knew I was squeezing. I knew he knew I was squeezing. Should have been an easy flop c/f.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($512.17)
CO ($177)
Button ($290.05)
Hero ($198)
BB ($312.70)
UTG ($200)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2

, 4

. Hero posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, Hero (poster) raises to $29, 1 fold, MP calls $22, Button calls $22.

Flop: ($92) T

, 5

, 3

(3 players)
Hero bets $70, MP raises to $140, Button folds, Here raises AI (~$150), MP calls $28.

Turn: ($330) Q

(2 players)

River: ($330) 9

(2 players)

Final Pot: $330

Results: MP wins with 77.

Good play by him. He knew exactly what I was up to.

Just finished up a 3200 hand 200NL session where I lost nearly 1.5k$. I feel like I played really well but I just got sucked out on all over the place. Seriously it was nuts.

I'm gonna try to play more later on. My sleep scedule is all messed up at the moment so it's hard to coincide my play with the times that party is softest. It's amazing how 200NL is so much more difficult during peak hours. I just played an hour at a tough table there (where that hand above came from) where I hardly saw a flop without getting reraised. It was crazy. Good practice for 400NL though I feel, plus it was fun and challenging.

Played a few hore hands. I'm now down $2000 at 200NL in 2 days. 95% just from pure variance, I think I've made about 2 idiotic mistakes. If I include my losses at 400NL earlier on, it appears I have had my first -$8000 week. My BR feels like it has been pretty much decimated. Down to nearly 8k now. Things better start turning around pretty soon.

Here's a hand I just played that I thought was cool. Villian is semi-loose TAG. Had squeezed me a few time so I decided I was going to play back on a safeish flop. Worst flop possible comes out. Luckily his weak cbet signified to me that he was scared of the ace himself so I pounced all over him.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($115.85)
SB ($406.80)
BB ($197)
Hero ($421.65)
MP ($281.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

, Q

. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, SB (poster) raises to $34, 1 fold, Hero calls $27, Button folds.

Flop: ($80) A

, 2

, 5

(2 players)
SB bets $30, Hero raises to $100, SB folds.

Final Pot: $210

Cool hand but I dunno why. Didn't think he would check the turn with an A so I deduced that he was on a bure bluff and called. He flipped 68. Ship it!

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($200)
UTG ($200)
MP ($380.84)
Hero ($197)
Button ($202.70)
SB ($392.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q

, A

. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $7, Button calls $7, 2 folds.

Flop: ($24) 6

, T

, 5

(3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $16, Button calls $16, UTG folds.

Turn: ($56) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($56) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $53.2, Hero calls $53.20.

Final Pot: $162.40

At this point I am about to move down to 100NL. My confidence is shot to pieces. I play every hand just waiting for them to raise me, 3bet me, call my cbet, draw out on me and do a million other things which cause me to lose more money by no fault of my own. In the last 20k hands my bankroll which was, at it's height, $18,000, has been cut in half in just over a week. At this point I'm seriously considering withdrawing what I have left online ($7000) and saying goodbye to the poker world. I never thought it would come to this.

start Bonus whoring again

If I was you I'd withdraw $5500 and start afresh at 50NL with $1500. Playing poker with lowered confidence is murderous for the BR..

Thanks guys. The support helps alot.

I just played 4 hours of 100NL and made 1k. Maybe I'm out. Who knows I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm gonna go get some breakfast and go back to playing 200NL.

These are the first, second and last bad beat hands I will ever post (and only because they are kinda funny). This is the kinda stuff that really gets to me. I make a good read, play a hand well and still I can't take pots. I know I'm sounding like a whiney bitch right now. This is the last of it I promise.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($99)
BB ($190.61)
UTG ($266.04)
MP ($179.65)
Hero ($162.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7

, 9

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BB raises to $10, MP folds, Hero raises to $35, BB calls $24.

Flop: ($71.50) 6

, 7

, 4

(2 players)
BB bets $65, Hero is All-in $127.15, BB calls $62.15.

Turn: ($198.65) Q

(2 players)

River: ($198.65) A

(2 players)

Final Pot: $198.65

Results in white below:
BB has Jd Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has 7s 9s (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: BB wins $198.65.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($90)
Button ($401.31)
SB ($223.14)
BB ($195.10)
UTG ($52.05)
Hero ($100.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8

, A

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $8, SB (poster) calls $7.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($25) 6

, 8

, 4

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, Button raises to $32, SB folds, Hero is AI $76.4, Button calls $60.40.

Turn: ($133.40) 6

(2 players)

River: ($133.40) J

(2 players)

Final Pot: $133.40

Results in white below:
Hero has 8s As (two pair, eights and sixes).
Button has 7s 6d (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: Button wins $133.40.

OK I'm done venting. Back to losing huge ammounts of money. Thanks for listening guys.

Welcome to my world Smile

You can't quit poker, it's impossible. I withdrew my bankroll a couple months back to fund my business. I put on $200 2 weeks ago and now I'm trucking (or trying to rather) back up there. If you're anything like me, you can't quit. You will find your way back.

I've never played the stakes you play (my highest was shots at 200nl) and I've never even come close to losing 8k in a week, so take it fwiw... but stick with it man. I like the thread, and you seem solid.

Perhaps you should take a week or so off? You said you want to quit, I think time off will help this. I didn't play one single hand for 1.5 months or so (minus some gauntlet games) and I wanted to play sooo bad when I returned. It was refreshing when I started again.

Just relax for a few days, get drunk, get laid, don't think about poker at all. I think it will really help you.

GL!

Irisheyes, you are a good player. Dont quit poker. I would suggest taking a break, doesnt need to be more than 2 days. When you get back start at NL100 and play pretty straightforward, and try focusing on fixing all your leaks (you know things like "calling down to much", "bluffing to much" etc). Write it down on a piece of paper and reread it everytime you start a session (thats what I do). Because besides running bad you are probably playing poorer than usual (a kind of "semitilt" due to running bad, the kind of tilt that is really hard to detect), and in that case you really need to step back a moment before starting to play again.
I would suggest staying at NL100 until you can beat it for a healthy WR over a larger samplesize - 10PTBB/100 is possible at NL100 if you practise good table selection, I've done over 10PTBB/100 over 25K hands at this level and I'm by no means a good player.

Pwn 200NL, improve your play, fix leaks, win $, and move back up. Taking a break for a few days seems +EV too. gl, you know you're good enough.

PM sent btw.

Cheers for the explanations.

I really don't think you should be quitting poker, I've required a couple of explanations, because being a micro-limit ABC semi-nit myself, your stuff reads pretty crazy. Very interesting to watch though. I reckon you should move down to $100NL, and burn some lame ABC123 tight-passives. Or even 50NL, where you'd run wild. Also look at the money. You'll earn more a week 8-tabling 50NL than someone who's spending their summer break stacking shelves in a shitty florescent-lighted supermarket.

Quit while you still have the chance!

Jk dude, we both know you're very talented and you have great work ethic in poker, those two things will make you very successful. Keep it up.

this is a great thread. don't quit irish. you know how easy 100NL is to beat if you have to move down there temporarily or whatever

BR just over $8k atm. Still running like shit. I honestly never thought it was possible to run this bad.

I remember Iused to read of professional poker players who played with 100 buy-in rolls and had 3 months expenses put away. I usesd to think this was rediculous and that no-one could ever come close to needing that much of a safety net. Man was I wrong. Living off poker is about 50 times harder then it looks to the average amateur player. It's mentally incredibly draining.

I'm gonna try and take the weekend off from ring games. Maybe play some tournaments for fun. I came 13th in a $55 FO last night.

Coming up on my 30 thousanth hand of near constant downswing.

Dude, if you ever want vent, AIM markelby Smile

Try playing less aggressively for a time. You are playing an agressive game vs fish that don't know what they are doing. 3 betting 79s vs an idiot who clearly likes his hand cannot be EV+.

You are not playing 1000nl, you don't have to be leaking chips playing lagg.

Hi,

I have enjoyed your thread (and Keeley) for a while now. Hang in there, don't quit.

I agree with take a break/switch it up/tone down the aggression. Do more reading and think about how you started playing, what worked back even when you were new to poker. A lot of your posts are about your tricky plays. I do think that they have caused you to acquired some bad habits. They are great to mix things up but perhaps you are doing them too often. Re-read the newbie circle of death. I just went through a tough stretch in my game as well, and it had a lot to do with being too tricky/unchecked aggression. Even gabe is running bad. Summer will be over soon and poker will be on ESPN again before you know it. The games should get softer (i hope).

.toma

Irish, post your PT stats? I've looked but can't find any.

Hey IE, for some reason I never saw this thread before today, so I'll just let you know what I think. My worst downswing was 4k, so I can only imagine what you must be going through. My advice is to 1) take a break anywhere from a couple days to a couple weeks (you obv need it), 2) tighten up so that you have lower variance and you are put in less marginal situations (200nl is very beatable playing like a nit), and 3) take a win whenever you can. This means if you play for 30 minutes and find yourself up 2-3 buyins, just stop for the day. Do this 3-4 times and you will be very amazed how much confidence you gain, even though you played the equivalent of one day's worth of hands. Hope this helps a little. Smile

ps: Hit me up on aim if you wanna chat.

I need an update plz kthx.

Thanks for all the continued support guys. It really helps.

2 hands a day = -EV dude.

If you feel you've lost interest then take proper time away. Don't read FTR, don't examine your stats, and don't play. You'll gradually feel the pull getting stronger and stronger, and you can let yourself back in gently - have some fun, teach yourself stud or something, quad-table $5 SNGs. Remember why you enjoy poker.

dude. take a break. not something set in stone...just stop playing poker until you not only get over your downswing, but until you're aching to play again. When you feel that, don't play for a couple more days...then you'll be on top of your game. I've been reading every post here, but haven't had anything important to add until now. I'd hate to see you quit when you so obviously could be succesful at this.

Here's to 60,000 hands in a downswing and to poker for decimating all my dreams of having a profitable summer! I guess I did accomplish one thing this summer, I managed to turn a 400NL player into a 100NL player in under 3 months!!! YAY for poker.

Cashed out about $3000 of what remained of my bankroll. I now have $3000 left. 100NL here we come. I know I can't beat that either but fuck it, lets give it a shot.

Irish - you have loads of support here and everyone is certain you will find your groove again. Hang in there mate.

I just had a 12 day vacation and despite the usual early withdrawal symptons, by the time I got back it felt great to not have that huge desire to play poker. I felt cleansed. It took another week or so before I was back playing seriously again so the break did wonders. I can highly recommend some time in the sun away from the computer to give you a different focus and mindset for the rebuilding of your roll.

You will kill NL100 once again - your roll will be replenished within a short few months - and you will be a better player for the experience.

Good luck with the challenge ahead mate... and feed off the support you have earned here...

Wrighty

If I followed correctly.. you started with $9k, cashed out a total of $13k and have $3k left.. which means you made $7k this summer. Ok, may pale in comparison to the $75k plan, but I'd say.. I wish I had a "horribly bad and disappointing summer where I made $7k playing poker".. Wink

Dude, you pwn, and you got laid!

I'm ok really. I just want attention, you know how it is.

Took a day off yesterday again. Decided I was going to beat this shit and realised that I had been playing terribly lately. And it's because of FTR.

Since I started playing poker I have always browsed the net while playing (usually FTR). I realised yesterday that I'm loosing huge chunks of chance because I wasn't paying attention to the tables. I would literally be playing 7 tables and time out because of reading a thread at the same time.

Well today I decided that would stop. And it seems to help alot. I played (roughly) 4k hands today at 100NL and made nearly 12 buyins. Hopefully this isn't just variance teasing me and I really have turned things around.

Hopefully.

Now its time for some mad funny table chat and a crazy hand (as usual) :

(I'm lolYouFoldEX by the way)

#5019182181: lolYouFoldEZ wins $162.50
TheReflex: what an APE
TheReflex: you had monkey written all over u from the second u sat down
lolYouFoldEZ: cool
TheReflex: i can imagine what kink of donk hand you called before the flop
lolYouFoldEZ: 9To
TheReflex: laughable
lolYouFoldEZ: I don't think it's funny
TheReflex: i do
lolYouFoldEZ: ok

#5019211356: lolYouFoldEZ wins $5.50
lolYouFoldEZ: do you like pokemon?
lolYouFoldEZ: I do
lolYouFoldEZ: I think pokemon is cool
lolYouFoldEZ: do you?
lolYouFoldEZ: donk bet alert!!

#5019360793: lolYouFoldEZ wins $33.75 from the main pot with two pairs, eights and sevens.
lolYouFoldEZ: 77 is the nuts
lolYouFoldEZ: isn't that right Reflex

#5019417832: lolYouFoldEZ wins $6
lolYouFoldEZ: I had 53 there reflexd
(talking about me)
#5019597521: lolYouFoldEZ wins $5.50
TheReflex: in poker circles he's also known as a donkey
THETERMINATOR: or monkey
TheReflex: 5 3

lolYouFoldEZ: Yo reflex
lolYouFoldEZ: do me a favour
lolYouFoldEZ: go type me name into "Find a player"
lolYouFoldEZ: please
TheReflex: ill get right on that
lolYouFoldEZ: ty
sdlovell: i believe i noticed a hint of sarcasm in his reply
sdlovell: but you are hidden
lolYouFoldEZ: oops
lolYouFoldEZ: no I'm not
TheReflex: in case anyone else hasnt figured this out, he's using cheat software
sdlovell: how is that?
lolYouFoldEZ: lol am I?
TheReflex: im only sticking around because ive heard about it but never ran into it
TheReflex: i was never a believer before
sdlovell: what are the signs?
lolYouFoldEZ: XXXX how can you tell?
TheReflex: he's folded EVERYTIME ive had the nuts and stuck around everytime i didnt
sdlovell: so you think he knows what your cards are?
lolYouFoldEZ: maybe I'm just really good?
TheReflex: im still trying to figure out how it works
sdlovell: lets be clear, there are several ways to cheat, that is not one of them
TheReflex: other than collusion what are the other ways?
lolYouFoldEZ: Reflex did you know that you only raise 4.5% of your hands preflop?
lolYouFoldEZ: what do you think jakally?
jakally: i dont no 2 b honest
lolYouFoldEZ: you think I can see your cards?
jakally: unlikely
lolYouFoldEZ: I agree
lolYouFoldEZ: what do they say about this situation on 2+2?
lolYouFoldEZ: Anyway reflex
lolYouFoldEZ: what I wanted to show you
lolYouFoldEZ: I'm playing 7 tables at the moment
lolYouFoldEZ: with a combined 1.1k$ between them
lolYouFoldEZ: how much do you make a year at your job?
TheReflex: 70K
lolYouFoldEZ: I'm 21
lolYouFoldEZ: I can make over 111k a year playing 100NL
lolYouFoldEZ: sorry 100k
sdlovell: key word "can"
lolYouFoldEZ: not 111
TheReflex: and im sure the health/retirement benefits are fantastic...LOL
sdlovell: only 100k for 7 tables?
lolYouFoldEZ: no not really but then again I'm not going to do this forever
lolYouFoldEZ: so next time
TheReflex: exactly...because you'll stop when u go broke son
lolYouFoldEZ: when you want to call someone a donkey
lolYouFoldEZ: please choose a player who is actually bad at poker
TheReflex: your taking it rather personally for someone who purports to not be a donkey
lolYouFoldEZ: to save yourself from looking foolish
lolYouFoldEZ: thanks for listening, have a nice day
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And the hand:
No reads

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($24.85)
Button ($19)
SB ($76.45)
Hero ($102.60)
UTG ($40.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, A

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $6, UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls $75.45 (All-In), Hero calls $69.45.

Flop: ($155.90) 4

, 5

, 9

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($155.90) 9

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($155.90) 5

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $155.90

Results below:
SB has Qs Jc (two pair, nines and fives).
Hero has Kd Ah (two pair, nines and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins $155.90.

lolYouFoldEZ: Reflex did you know that you only raise 4.5% of your hands preflop?

- why did you say that?

That was me pretending to be cheating.

Played a shitload of 100NL today (about 6000 hands or more I think) and made some cash. Not sure how much, around the $700 mark I think.

This is what happens when you reraise someone pf a whole bunch:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($43)
Hero ($126.20)
UTG ($99.50)
MP ($422.77)
CO ($97.65)
Button ($167.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

, Q

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, CO raises to $4.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13, CO pushes all in, Hero calls $83.65.

Flop: ($102.65) 5

, Q

, A

(2 players)

Turn: ($102.65) 9

(2 players)

River: ($102.65) 4

(2 players)

Final Pot: $102.65

Results below: ]
Hero has Qh Qs (three of a kind, queens).
CO has Jd Jh (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $102.65.

And here's a funny hand from today:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($106.75)
MP ($63.94)
Hero ($131.66)
SB ($79.40)
BB ($110.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6

, A

. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, Hero calls $1, SB (poster) completes, BB raises to $3, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $3, SB raises to $7.5, BB calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($26) T

, T

, 4

(3 players)
SB bets $10, BB folds, Hero raises to $33, SB pushes all-in, Hero calls $38.40.

Turn: ($107.40) 5

(2 players)

River: ($107.40) T

(2 players)

Final Pot: $107.40

Results below:
SB has Kh 7h (three of a kind, tens).
Hero has 6h Ah (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $107.40.

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