Operation - Get Good

I'll be blunt for a second here.

You've identified 3 obvious leaks so far:

1 - Not thinking before making actions.
2 - Playing out of your BR
3 - Calling raises with crap hands from the BB.

What we havnt seen a lot of is you taking much action to plug those leaks. You're not going to improve just acknowledging them, you have to come up with ways to address them. If just wanting to isnt enough, then try to come up with some kind of system. Maybe you always take 2 or 3 deep breaths before pressing any button after making a decision. Maybe you write down exactly what hands you will call a raise with from the BB and keep it next to your computer. You've got to do something about them though.

Alright ill give ur last HH a shot. I grind the 10$ sngs, but i used to do the 6$ turbos and beat it, so hopefully i can help.
Here goes:
#24-19=Good, well played.
#18=You have an excellent hand, make a standard raise or even a weak lead to try to get him to push. VERY BAD push.
#17-15=Good, well played.
#14=I do not like the reraise, its too weak. Either call, reraise to 1350 or go all in.
#13-7=Good, well played.
#6=I dont hate it, but i think push/fold would be better, since that raise is getting u pot commited anyways.
#5-1=Fine

You played well. Your play is extremely elevated for the stakes that you are playing. You should be absolutely killing the 6$ sngs with ease. This sng looked like a turbo to me (im not sure, i dont play on PokerStars), and i really think that you should stop playing turbos, and start playing normal sngs. Luck has a smaller effect in the, and u will make a lot more $, im almost sure of it.
Also, i think hand 19 where u called a min raise with A6suited was a fine call. Just proceed cautiously when an A hits, just like u did. You played that hand perfectly.
Really, the only leak that i can find is that you get very impatient when u flop a big hand (like AJ in that SNG i just reviewed and when u flopped trip 8s in ur other sng). When you flop a big hand, just take your time and think about how you can extract the most possible.
Thats just what i think.
GL

Turbos make more cash per hour, and I, for one, like money.

Stick with turbos Wink

Goddamn players at these stakes are donks..i hate playing these when your up against the worst players in the world.

*Last edited by Jack Sawyer on Tue, 10 Jul 2007, 5:02am; edited 1 time in total*

{EDIT}

This weeks resluts:
SnG's played - 18 (1 x $16)
1sts - 4
2nd - 2
3rd - 0
4th - 3
the rest - OOTM

BR at start of 1st week - $118.07
BR at end of 1st week - $127.85

OVERALL
SNG's played - 141
ITM% - 41.1%
ROI% - 26.5%

over 141 games:
1st - 29
2nd - 13
3rd - 16
4th - 18

Better week than last week I suppose. I'm out of the rut I found myself in last week which is noice. I'm thinking before acting a lot more now which is good. I have sworn not to play another $16 until i'm rolled for them.

Going on a 2 week holiday to Turkey next week so won't be able to play any games for 2 weeks but will continue the operation as soon as I return. I leave on 16th July. Will post results for this coming week on Saturday or Sunday.

Thanks for all the support.

Looks good man. Enjoy the holiday Smile

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Keep on winning man, good job. Have a great break and come back firing.

2 hands from recent SnG. (finished 2nd Dancing

lol)

whats your move here? big stack can call a wide range so if I shove I dont have much FE really.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t1560)
SB (t3255)
BB (t8685)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T

, 8

.
Hero ???

raise to take the blinds here or just shove? villain has been loose but not too loose. called a lot PF in the early stages but folded to raises. If we put him on 15% of hands here a shove is wrong. can we put him on tighter than that? Think

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t2485)
BB (t4180)
UTG (t3605)
Button (t3230)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

, 5

.
2 folds, Hero ??

Random,
1st hand (Td 8d): I'd go ahead and shove here. In your situation, I'm willing to take a 40/60 to try and double up. Y0u're all in next hand anyway, and you can't bank on getting a much better hand. I'd shove it with no regrets.

2nd hand (Tc 5h): If he calls and loses, he's the new short stack by a lot, so I think his range could easily be tighter than 15%. I still might let him walk here though to show I'm not pushing ATC. You're short, but not on death row.

I agree with Chase for hand 1, but I disagree with hand 2.

15% is 77+, A7s+, ATo+, K9s+, KTo+, QTs+, QJo, JTs. Since you said he is pretty loose, but not with raises I could see him calling with this range. If he is a thinking player and decent at all he knows you need to push wide here and call wider than that, maybe with 66+, A2s+, A7o+, K9s, K9o, Q9s, QTo, JTs, and JTo. With this range you need to fold.

Hand 2 you can afford to std raise and still have 10BB behind if he shoves over. A c-bet would hurt but not kill you if it doesnt work.

ZeeDee:
Whoops, looked at the wrong hand range for 15%. I was thinking it was much wider. My bad.
BsJaust: Do we really want to try to steal here with T5? If big stack is a thinking player, he could shove over with a huge range and force us to fold, as it's the bubble. I probably let him walk here.

Given that both we and BB have greater than 10 BB, we can bet 500 and not look too weak. BB is bigstack and has us covered, but he's really only marginally bigger than the rest, if we have a real hand we can make him easily the shortstack.

It would depend on reads somewhat, but I'm ok with putting some pressure on during the bubble. He doesnt want to take risks anymore than anyone else.

Yes. If we dont take chances we blind away.

Quick update as I dunno if I'll get anymore games in before I head off on ma holidays!!

BR at start of 1st week - $118.07
BR at the moment (2nd week end) - $151.55

played - 143
ITM% - 41.3
ROI% - 26.5%

Was down to $85.00 at one point during the rough patch but I'm well up over my starting BR I'm pleased to say.

Might have time for couple more games tomorrow but I'm not sure.

If I'm unable to post then I'll speak to ya'll in 2 weeks time... Keep grinding
Wink

nice job man, keep it up!

Nice stats there.
Of course always nice to see a bankroll increase too.
Keep it up.

couple of hands from recent game. Was hungover during this game. not really the best of ideas playing hungover but meh...

Is a shove correct here?
PokerStars Game #10933234983: Tournament #55434595, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/14 - 10:44:34 (ET)
Table '55434595 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: amundes (1504 in chips)
Seat 3: backonu (1805 in chips)
Seat 4: DeadMoney78 (1280 in chips)
Seat 5: Newbïe (3786 in chips)
Seat 8: microphone (2630 in chips)
Seat 9: RandomHero83 (2495 in chips)
backonu: posts small blind 100
DeadMoney78: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RandomHero83 [Qc As]
Newbïe: folds
microphone: folds
RandomHero83: ??

Easy fold?
PokerStars Game #10933255597: Tournament #55434595, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/07/14 - 10:46:27 (ET)
Table '55434595 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: amundes (1204 in chips)
Seat 3: backonu (1105 in chips)
Seat 4: DeadMoney78 (1580 in chips)
Seat 5: Newbïe (4486 in chips)
Seat 8: microphone (2630 in chips)
Seat 9: RandomHero83 (2495 in chips)
backonu: posts small blind 100
DeadMoney78: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RandomHero83 [Th Td]
Newbïe: raises 400 to 600
microphone: folds
RandomHero83: ??

shove?
PokerStars Game #10933344246: Tournament #55434595, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/07/14 - 10:54:32 (ET)
Table '55434595 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: amundes (1683 in chips)
Seat 4: DeadMoney78 (1652 in chips)
Seat 8: microphone (4892 in chips)
Seat 9: RandomHero83 (5273 in chips)
amundes: posts the ante 25
DeadMoney78: posts the ante 25
microphone: posts the ante 25
RandomHero83: posts the ante 25
amundes: posts small blind 200
DeadMoney78: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RandomHero83 [7s Qc]
microphone: folds
RandomHero83: ??

Honestly I would push all three hands.

Hand 2 (TT) I would come over the top, especially if he has shown to be using his big stack to push people around.

Good point. I overlooked that Rolling Eyes

lol

Ok I'm off on ma hols for 2 weeks so no more games until I get back.
Cant wait to be sitting in the sun with a beer in my hand. I'll show you how excited I am through the medium of dance - Peanut Butter Jelly Time!

lol

stats (only played a couple of games since last update but I thought I'd post these.

BR at start of 1st week - $118.07
BR at the moment (end of 3rd week) - $173.05

played - 148
ITM% - 41.9%
ROI% - 27.7%

Placings
1st - 30
2nd - 15
3rd - 17
4th - 18
rest - OOTM

Happy to say that I've finished in 1st place more times than any other place. Very Happy

Operation will continue when I return.

nice stats

Managed to squeeze a few more games in last night. was nothing else to do as everything is packed etc. lol.

after I won a SnG I decided to play $10 180 man SnG and finished OOTM. no big deal as I freerolled it, so to speak.

I then played 4 $6.50's and finished OOTM in them also. My BR is now $136.05.

This got me thinking. How common are 4 and 5 OOTM streaks? I was sitting at a nice $173.00 and now I'm back at $136.00. Rolling Eyes

Very common.

Yesterday alone I had two 5 ootm streaks, luckily couple with a 3 winning streak.

Turbos generally give very streaky stats and as long as you don't tilt from them you will sustain your roi in the long run and end in profit.

Of course with an exceptionally nasty streak you'll have to move down to recoup losses first.

*Last edited by Random_Hero on Mon, 16 Jul 2007, 3:41am; edited 1 time in total*

I guess your right. Turbo's will have more swings than normal SnG'. I'll just have to learn to cope with these. Their a f*ckin pest though lol

Just finished 4th in a game. reraised all-in with aces PF, villain calls with 4-5 suited and hits a flush!! Rolling Eyes

he wasn't even that much ahead of me in chips to begin with!!

I just had a 15 OOTM streak, my worst run in my 1000 games. I thought it was tilt as I was pretty tired and also quite irritated. Just went back to analyse how bad it was - almost all of my bust outs were push/ fold, all 14 of them were good shoves according to sitngowiz with reasonable ranges. Kept running into JJ+ or donkeys who sucked out / called with crap and were still ahead.

I wouldn't worry about 5 at all!

Thanks man. before the 5 OOTM I was doing well.
1st, 6th, 1st, 2nd, 5th, 9th, 3rd, 2nd, 5th, 1st.

my 9th place finish my K-K ran into aces.

Thats me off to Turkey now (finally Very Happy

).

BR is at $159.75

played 3 games today. 4th, 1st and 2nd.

Speak soon. Wink

Do you multitable or play one at a time?

Thats me back from my holiday. had a great time and have a nice wee tan haha!!

Was in Icmeler mukaka, just down from Marmaris on the South West of Turkey. Was absolutley scorching hot. At least 46 degrees everyday!! Surprised

Good to be back though. will hopefully get a few games in before the end of the week.

yeah that's a nice place I'm Turkish that's why I asked and glad you had a good time. You might try Bodrum(summer) next time if you ever decide to come here again Wink

EDIT : Sorry for the off-topic, let's move on Very Happy

May I add that Turks are one of the most friendly folk I have ever met. made myself and my girlfriend feel really welcome and the food is superb also!! Very Happy

I'll probably be going back to Icmeler next year again. My parents have been going to Turkey for 10 years now and they love it.

Moving on.......... Will post a full HH once I've played a turbo as I want to see if I've not lost anything. 2 weeks without poker was a nightmare by the way lol...

Full HH of recent turbo.
Dont think I played particularly well. some of my pushes may have been wrong. haven't checked WIZ yet.
comments please.

Tourney is upside down so start from bottom Rolling Eyes

http://www.flopturnriver.com/Online-Poker-Tournament-1609.html

Hand 14 - I contemplated folding here from EP. was cont bet ok?
Hand 11 - easy shove?
Hand 10 - this guy had been playing a wide range. I noted earlier he limped then called a raise with K-5 UTG. also watched him call big bets with 2nd pair also. was Turn shove ok?
Hand 8 - I think this was wrong to shove. A-7 is weak. however, Pokercommish was pretty tight throughout. daan1984 I reckoned wouldn't call without a strong hand. I was a bit miffed here but opted for the push.
Hand 7 - I think this is an easy shove.

thanks in advance.

whats your move on the flop? I maybe should have folded PF but meh. no real reads. 1st time villain has min raised.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO (t2460)
Button (t1765)
SB (t3635)
Hero (t1710)
UTG (t1610)
MP1 (t1280)
MP2 (t1040)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, 6

.
4 folds, Button raises to t300, 1 fold, Hero calls t150.

Flop: (t675) K

, 9

, 4

(2 players)
Hero ??? ,

OK i have decided to bring the Operation to a close.

This is because I feel that when I post hands etc in here as opposed to starting new threads it doesn't get as much "coverage" as other threads that are specific to one hand/whole tourney, if ya know what I mean. I am in no way saying that people are ignoring my thread by the way, I just think it'll be better for me to post normal threads again. Maybe an operations thread wasn't for me.

I will still be working on improving my game (obv!!)by posting threads etc outside this operation. I will also track my results, ROI% and ITM% (obv!!), I just wont post them here. Very Happy

Same happened to me Crying or Very sad

That seems like a good idea to me. Typically it makes sense to not string a large number of disparate situations together in the same thread because it gets confusing to anyone who isn't up on the latest. But I do think that having an operation thread for the purpose of tracking progress is a good idea.

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