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bjsaust
Post Posted: Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 7:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I get where you're coming from about only having limited time to play, but one of the best things for my bankroll was realising that not playing is more EV than playing when my head isnt right just because its the only time I have to play.

Walk away and come back while you still have a roll Sad
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Post Posted: Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 8:23pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Your $2K your talking about is my whole fucking BR. Suck it up. Take a fucking break. Your right where I was 6 months ago mentally and there is another side to this. Take a break, get your head on str8 and calm down.
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Post Posted: Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 10:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ok a shitload of thanks to everyone who has helped me. I am going to watch some videos at Stox from Jared Tendler and just try to focus on controlling my tilt for now. ISF has reassured me that he believed I was playing well in our sessions and that I definitely have what it takes to win at the level. I am going to watch the vids, play 50NL, report back on what I feel like I did well/bad and see if my luck changes. I plan to move back up soon. As for NOW, no bankroll flipping. Tbh, I asked some high stakes regs today if they'd flip and they backed out and am thankful.
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Post Posted: Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 10:59pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yeah, no friend will do that to you man.
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Post Posted: Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 7:18am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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kmind wrote:
Ok a shitload of thanks to everyone who has helped me. I am going to watch some videos at Stox from Jared Tendler and just try to focus on controlling my tilt for now. ISF has reassured me that he believed I was playing well in our sessions and that I definitely have what it takes to win at the level. I am going to watch the vids, play 50NL, report back on what I feel like I did well/bad and see if my luck changes. I plan to move back up soon. As for NOW, no bankroll flipping. Tbh, I asked some high stakes regs today if they'd flip and they backed out and am thankful.


Keep your head up. We all know what follows a downswing..... Smile
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Post Posted: Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 2:53pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Don't play for a couple of days.
Then play 50nl for $750 - it's a discipline thing and what i've been doing this month (except for more than $750 Wink)
Don't play when your headspace is bad.
Beats happen, sucks that they happened as you moved up.
Don't try to change too many things at once.
Keep FPS to a minimum.
Don't get all degenerate.
Post hands for discussion and without results.
Move back up when you're ready.
Win.
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Post Posted: Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 3:06pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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wtf nit, flip dat shit
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Post Posted: Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 4:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I still disagree with moving back down to 50nl. Its not a discipline thing for kmind daven, he's constantly moving back down to 50nl. He's only down like 3 buyins at 50nl this month, the 24 buyins he talks about is lifetime. This is just short term variance and some serious tilt.

I still think your serious poker should be at 100nl. You have to start thinking of yourself as a 100nl reg, not a 50nl player playing out of your depth. If you lack confidence or dont feel up to playing your A game, then donk around at 2nl or play a micro tourney or another game or something. This is your chance to beat 100nl and become a reg there and move towards 200nl.

Again though, if you're not right, dont play. Go do fun stuff and come back when you can play your best.
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Post Posted: Sun, 19 Jul 2009, 8:52pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Time for a comeback! Smile

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NL Holdem $1(BB) Full Tilt Game#13499198338

FooFighter ($100)
BIMBBAIE ($340)
Bozoclone ($194)
SbIS ($100)
SuitsUs ($100)
krip2n ($117)

FooFighter posts (SB) $0.50
BIMBBAIE posts (BB) $1

Dealt to SuitsUs Qs Qh
fold, fold,
SuitsUs raises to $3.50
fold, fold,
BIMBBAIE calls $2.50
FLOP ($7.50) Qd 7d 8d
BIMBBAIE checks
SuitsUs bets $6
BIMBBAIE calls $6
TURN ($19.50) Qd 7d 8d 6c
BIMBBAIE checks
SuitsUs bets $13
BIMBBAIE calls $13
RIVER ($45.50) Qd 7d 8d 6c 4s
BIMBBAIE bets $18
SuitsUs calls $18
BIMBBAIE shows Td Ad
(Pre 33%, Flop 65.6%, Turn 77.3%)

SuitsUs shows Qs Qh
(Pre 67%, Flop 34.4%, Turn 22.7%)

BIMBBAIE wins $78.50

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unprovoked ($54)
th824 ($50)
lyingdog4 ($48.25)
RaYRaYx99 ($87.70)
SuitsUs ($50)

unprovoked posts (SB) $0.25
th824 posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to SuitsUs Kc Qd
fold, fold,
SuitsUs raises to $1.75
fold,
th824 calls $1.25
FLOP ($3.75) Tc Ks 2h
th824 bets $3.75
SuitsUs raises to $13
th824 calls $9.25
TURN ($29.75) Tc Ks 2h 4c
th824 bets $29.75
SuitsUs raises to $35.25 (AI)
th824 calls $5.50 (AI)
RIVER ($100) Tc Ks 2h 4c 6c
SuitsUs shows Kc Qd
(Pre 74%, Flop 87.0%, Turn 93.2%)

th824 shows 6d Kh
(Pre 26%, Flop 13.0%, Turn 6.8%)

th824 wins $97.25

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DOZ1N ($118)
SuitsUs ($51.85)
FreeKilla ($34.30)
NotNutsHonest ($85.45)
GrimBrimm ($73.05)
ella1988 ($24.35)

DOZ1N posts (SB) $0.25
SuitsUs posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to SuitsUs Ts Td
fold, fold,
GrimBrimm raises to $1.50
fold, fold,
SuitsUs calls $1
FLOP ($3.25) 6c Qh Tc
SuitsUs checks
GrimBrimm bets $2.50
SuitsUs raises to $9
GrimBrimm raises to $20
SuitsUs raises to $50.35 (AI)
GrimBrimm calls $30.35
TURN ($103) 6c Qh Tc 7d
RIVER ($103) 6c Qh Tc 7d 6d
SuitsUs shows Ts Td
(Pre 18%, Flop 4.3%, Turn 2.3%)

GrimBrimm shows Qs Qc
(Pre 82%, Flop 95.7%, Turn 97.7%)

GrimBrimm wins $100
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daven
Post Posted: Mon, 20 Jul 2009, 3:24am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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focusing on beats. The time it takes to post those three hands is the time it would take to properly review 1 or 2 hands that you could probably play better. Or read some useful stuff.

I suggest reading soupie's tourney guide, points 30, 31, 38, 46, 47, 50, 52, 54.

also remember that if you're 20buyins behind AIEV over 40k hands then you should be at least breakeven over that period.
Best of luck.
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Post Posted: Mon, 20 Jul 2009, 12:43pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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daven wrote:
focusing on beats. The time it takes to post those three hands is the time it would take to properly review 1 or 2 hands that you could probably play better. Or read some useful stuff.


+1
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kmind
Post Posted: Mon, 20 Jul 2009, 1:21pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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True.

Also, I had a nightmare of me miss-clicking and folding huge hands. 95% positive this was just a dream but am checking HEM now.

Also, I finished the day down $15 (well, $28 as I flipped my last $13 on PS) after those beats so I can't complain.
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Post Posted: Mon, 20 Jul 2009, 9:43pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ok so the last 2 hands were part of the -$15 day which is actually today (2 days ago I won $200). I also lost a 50% in a 100bb total pot today without me sucking out on anyone. So that plus the last 2 hands have still yielded me a +3 buyin day at 50NL. Sucks it's at 50NL but I am still happy. Could have easily been a +5 day at least. I also have played over 4k hands the past 2 days which I am proud of but it's mainly at 50NL as opposed to 100NL. I have found I can 9 table 50NL with ease without FT Shortcuts or any scripts tbh.

Onto my play. I felt like I made some really nice calls and double barrelled quite well as it's something I used to rarely do. I also completed my first ever triple barrel bluff to success. I'm really excited about all this as I think I'm making a lot better reads. Also, my cbetting game has gotten a lot better. I'm also making better reads on when to float/bluff raise/just fold my air which helps out a ton. I'm REALLY hoping I can get back to 100NL and run good tomorrow or whenever I try again as I really do (knock on wood) think ISF's coaching is kicking in. We're scheduled to have a final 2hr session tomorrow or Wed. Hope it goes well.
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Post Posted: Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 11:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So I told myself I'd win 8 buyins from now until the end of the month. Played 2k hands today and down 4 buyins. Running extremely horrible like normal. Only got a stack once and I played it very poorly. I hit 3 sets, 2 were top sets as the PFR on dry boards and got folds. The 3rd was in a multiway pot and a donk got there after calling a huge bet so I lost a good chunk on that. I lost KK < AA preflop. I lost vs. 82s against a reg. when I raised preflop. I lost a big multiway pot barely trailing in equity. AA was definitely a loser. KK too.

I also played some hands poorly. The hands posted in the shorthanded forum were just 3 hands but would have helped a lot. The second one was the one I won my stack.

Just getting frustrated. Like seriously the shit I see is ridiculous. Players will make HUGE mistakes and still win. Just annoying. And I'm not really buying the whole "good, the more mistakes by them, the more you win" because I haven't seen it much really. I do bad, they do worse, they win.
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Post Posted: Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 12:03am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Dont set yourself money targets with deadlines, just aim to play good poker every time you sit down to play.

Sounds a lot like tilt in the last post. Yeah its irritating that people can play bad and still win, but thats over a small sample. The whole point of playing well is to win over the long term. The hands you posted in the SHNL forum where pretty bad, and you were obviously tilting in some way at the time you played them. You really need to start (return to) planning your hands. You need to have reasons for betting, reasons for calling, reasons for raising, etc. Pre-flop and on the flop especially, you should be planning where the profit from the hand is going to come from, rather than just reacting to stuff.

Been ages since you did a vid, maybe go back to recording yourself playing regularly. Even if you dont publish any, treat them like you might, and play like you're going to need to explain what you're doing and why you're doing it.
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Post Posted: Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 12:26am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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True. Honestly, the hands posted in the short-handed forum WERE thought out. That's a problem. I just put them on weird draws and only thought on some streets they would continue or based on X bet sizing they'd have a draw still etc. Maybe I'll post a video.

Also, I didn't mean just this session players playing worse I'm talking about my whole career.

We should do another session sometime if you want/can. I still have an hour with ISF plus another with alexos so hopefully they can find some weird leaks but mehhhhh. ISF has taught me some leaks that I have already gotten better at so it's just annoying to continually find shitty spots. I don't really have too much hope for my career and it just sucks.
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Post Posted: Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 12:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I dunno, I keep watching your vids/sweating/reading hands, and overall I cant find any ongoing problems with your game. Tbh I've always considered you at least as good if not better than I am. You do seem to hit more than your share of run bad, so that could be it. You post a lot of hands that are played fine v's ranges and you just continually hit the top of it. Whether thats just exagerated because you post so many of them, or if you run into that a lot more than usual I dont know. I think sometimes you should think a little harder about spots, but thats usually just isolated hands rather than an ongoing issue. My concern would be that after you have some run bad maybe you tilt? Exaserbating run bad with play bad is a recipe for disaster. Also much as you keep posting when you've had losing/bad sessions, it seems to me that you're still consistantly winning on a month to month basis which shouldnt be ignored when you're considering the hope for your career.

I'm pretty busy atm and away this weekend. Got to try to catch up with Renton for the coaching session from his Digest comp soon. I'll be around though, jump on msn when you're available and we'll see if we can catch up and do something.
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Post Posted: Thu, 30 Jul 2009, 8:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I run worse than anyone ever in the history of anything poop you

edit: and KK < AKo let's goooooooo wooooo funnnnnnn 200bbbbbb what what?!
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 3:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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kmind wrote:
Whaaaaaa!!!!!
fyp.

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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 2:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Same fucking shit today: Cooler, cooler, run bad, run bad, cooler
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 2:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'd really like to sweat you some time kmind if you're up for it. I want to see how you're dealing with bad beats/coolers and also discuss some hands. The main reason I want to though is because I think I have poor 6max preflop fundamentals (I play too tight) and I think you probably have a much better grasp on them than I do.
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 2:54pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Will do for sure. I think I handle bad beats and coolers actually quite well in game but it does force me to quit my sessions sooner and get to this blog. I really do not intend to post just beats and shit in this blog but literally all month besides a sweat with bjsaust it has been nothing but shitty. I'm going to go for 1400 more hands today to get to 25k on the month but I will most likely stop short again if it continues to just be dumb. Next month literally is mostly 100NL so this hasn't been a great time to ruin my confidence.

Also, I guess it doesn't matter, but when I run "good" it means me winning a flip or two. When I run bad, it means me losing those 70%ers+. I should be happy with this and to an extent I am but on one side it makes it that much more frustrating.
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u shud look into coaching, ill offer to sweat you if you want. nobody should find 50nl this poxy
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 8:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Thanks man. Getting coached by ISF and another dude ATM. ISF has been with me all month via sweats as well as last month via PMs. Both say I play pretty well. I guarantee you I have suffered so much shit this month it's not funny. As I type:

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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt Game#13735950187

southboy08 ($20.10)
VITOR STUMPF ($50)
SuitsUs ($86)
lostmonkey29 ($28.75)
apjan1 ($71.20)
Squatch1 ($60.65)

southboy08 posts (SB) $0.25
VITOR STUMPF posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to SuitsUs Ks Kc
SuitsUs raises to $1.75
lostmonkey29 calls $1.75
fold, fold,
southboy08 calls $1.50
fold,
FLOP ($5.75) 8s 3d 2s
southboy08 checks
SuitsUs bets $4.50
lostmonkey29 raises to $9
southboy08 folds
SuitsUs raises to $84.25 (AI)
lostmonkey29 calls $18 (AI)
TURN ($59.75) 8s 3d 2s Qc
RIVER ($59.75) 8s 3d 2s Qc Td
SuitsUs shows Ks Kc
(Pre 84%, Flop 29.1%, Turn 18.2%)

lostmonkey29 shows 3c 8c
(Pre 16%, Flop 70.9%, Turn 81.8%)

lostmonkey29 wins $56.80
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Jul 2009, 9:21pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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There's my month. I could post a ton of coolers but I don't want to unless you want them. I finished down 5 buyins in EV. I have one more hour of coaching with ISF left and then afterwards I will play 100NL for 15k hands at least, hoping it's much more. Alexos has offered to sweat me. Ian just now (Da GOAT). Bjsaust sweated me last month for a 2 buyin win at 100NL. Para and I are doing a sweat Sunday. I can't thank you guys enough! My 400NL FR friend is offering to coach me long term as well at both 6max and FR in which I'll profit share with him for a good bit but at a sick price. He's tcblade's protege/good friend IRL as well as Matt Probability's good friend. We met at 25NL and one of us has gone to win probably 50k in profits, including not playing for like a few months at all. I won't say which one. FFS ISF was at 50NL when I played in those games. This is was tilts me to no end. Everyone is either winning at stakes 4 times as high as me or winning more money than I could EVER imagine. This has to make me think something's wrong with me. I feel like I am learning a shit ton and the mistakes I do still have aren't too bad at all but the coolers are just overwhelming me. I mean ffs I was playing variance free poker for at least 2 months straight before last month. I know I can do it.
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Blaah kmizzle! Variance sucks so hard sometimes dude.. trust me I know how you feel. Things will turn, lots of good players know you got the skills so it will all come together!
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Thanks man! Lots of good AND bad (ie me) players know you can dominate next month just get your red line down!

Next month I am thinking I either don't check my BR for like two weeks and/or don't check my EV all month and/or don't post ONE thing about running bad. Thoughts? Any other ideas to get me focused on crushing?
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What do you guys think about these?

Full Tilt Poker Game #13741981957: Table Location (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:51:21 ET - 2009/08/01
Seat 1: Eichhof ($62.10)
Seat 2: ervinsm84 ($62.15)
Seat 3: cjhuck ($42.05)
Seat 4: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 5: Tachi12 ($23.65)
Seat 6: Patchaa ($0), is sitting out
Eichhof posts the small blind of $0.25
ervinsm84 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [5s 6s]
cjhuck raises to $1
SuitsUs calls $1
Tachi12 folds
Eichhof folds
ervinsm84 calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [8s Ts 3d]
ervinsm84 checks
cjhuck bets $3.25
Patchaa adds $20
Patchaa has returned
SuitsUs calls $3.25
ervinsm84 folds
*** TURN *** [8s Ts 3d] [Js]
cjhuck checks
SuitsUs bets $6.50
cjhuck calls $6.50
*** RIVER *** [8s Ts 3d Js] [Jc]
cjhuck checks
SuitsUs bets $13
cjhuck raises to $26
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs calls $13


Full Tilt Poker Game #13742057103: Table Splendid (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:58:34 ET - 2009/08/01
Seat 1: TennisGuy1 ($72.40)
Seat 3: 833mug ($25.35)
Seat 4: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 5: meme00122 ($55.60)
Seat 6: 1chump1 ($12.05)
833mug posts the small blind of $0.25
SuitsUs posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [6d 5c]
Tuleman sits down
meme00122 folds
1chump1 folds
TennisGuy1 folds
833mug calls $0.25
SuitsUs checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 9d 7d]
Tuleman stands up
833mug bets $1
SuitsUs raises to $4
833mug calls $3
*** TURN *** [8c 9d 7d] [Tc]
833mug checks
SuitsUs bets $5
833mug raises to $10
doc ko1 sits down
SuitsUs calls $5
*** RIVER *** [8c 9d 7d Tc] [9h]
doc ko1 adds $50
833mug bets $10.85, and is all in
SuitsUs calls $10.85
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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($15.55)
BB ($58.20)
UTG ($34)
UTG+1 ($41.30)
CO ($60.20)
Hero ($50)

Dealt to Hero 5Club 5Diamond

fold, fold, CO raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, fold

FLOP ($5.75) 5Heart 4Diamond TDiamond

SB bets $5.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $23, SB calls $8.05 (AI)

TURN ($33.35) 5Heart 4Diamond TDiamond 7Heart

RIVER ($33.35) 5Heart 4Diamond TDiamond 7Heart 3Diamond

SB shows 6Heart AClub
(Pre 43%, Flop 4.5%, Turn 18.2%)

Hero shows 5Club 5Diamond
(Pre 57%, Flop 95.5%, Turn 81.8%)

SB wins $31.70

Yay. But seriously I'm not mad. That's a lie but I'm ok. Literally 3rd hand back to playing in 2 days. Anyways, I plan on putting people on a range on EVERY street. I also plan on studying daily in the mornings at least. For an hour minimum. Every single move of mine will be with a full purpose.
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56 hand, turn bet probably doesnt have much value at all, and you're better off checking back turn and re-eval river. Def bet if he checks to you on turn.

As played, fold to turn c/r and def fold river.
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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt Game#13792431294

TennisGuy1 ($50)
v-george ($30.35)
moni88 ($28.90)
fraser1980 ($50.80)
SuitsUs ($50)
cazballr3 ($14.95)

TennisGuy1 posts (SB) $0.25
v-george posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to SuitsUs Ac Jd
fold, fold,
SuitsUs raises to $1.75
cazballr3 raises to $3
fold, fold,
SuitsUs raises to $9
cazballr3 calls $6
FLOP ($18.75) 8d 2h 9c
SuitsUs bets $6
cazballr3 calls $5.95 (AI)
TURN ($30.65) 8d 2h 9c Ts
RIVER ($30.65) 8d 2h 9c Ts 5d
SuitsUs shows Ac Jd
(Pre 64%, Flop 25.4%, Turn 31.8%)

cazballr3 shows 9s 6h
(Pre 36%, Flop 74.6%, Turn 68.2%)

cazballr3 wins $29.15




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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
Hero ($65.25)
BB ($77.60)
UTG ($56.50)
UTG+1 ($50.50)
CO ($50)
BTN ($21.30)

Dealt to Hero 9Diamond AHeart

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

FLOP ($3) ADiamond 8Diamond 2Diamond

Hero checks, BB bets $3, Hero calls $3

TURN ($9) ADiamond 8Diamond 2Diamond 9Heart

Hero checks, BB bets $3.50, Hero raises to $11, BB calls $7.50

RIVER ($31) ADiamond 8Diamond 2Diamond 9Heart KSpade

Hero bets $16, BB calls $16

BB shows ASpade KHeart
(Pre 74%, Flop 53.6%, Turn 4.5%)

Hero shows 9Diamond AHeart
(Pre 26%, Flop 46.4%, Turn 95.5%)

BB wins $60
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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
Hero ($50)
BB ($50)
UTG ($17.05)
CO ($36.05)
BTN ($37.75)

Dealt to Hero QClub ASpade

UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.50, fold, fold

FLOP ($7) 6Club QSpade 4Diamond

Hero bets $4, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

TURN ($31) 6Club QSpade 4Diamond QHeart

Hero checks, BB checks

RIVER ($31) 6Club QSpade 4Diamond QHeart AClub

Hero bets $22, BB raises to $35 (AI), Hero calls $13 (AI)

Hero shows QClub ASpade
(Pre 47%, Flop 1.9%, Turn 15.9%)

BB shows 4Club 4Spade
(Pre 53%, Flop 98.1%, Turn 84.1%)

Hero wins $98


I'm back...


Oh, and 4 tabled the whole day. +4.5 buyins with those coolers+running a tad below EV+running semi-hot in this last hand. I'm REALLY happy about today.
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Ok spoke to soon. Cooler after cooler. Sweet.
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Its ok you're still up 2.5 buyins?

A9 seems ok, AQ maybe c/r riv
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Not sure anymore. Just got coolered while typing this for another 200bb pot. I reallllly think some of those tilt videos need to be watched. I'm literally sweating from being so frustrated of this crap. EVERY single draw/good card in their range gets there it's insane. AA literally getting all folds or losing to a suckout postflop against a donk. It seems like there really is no end but I have faith and once it does end I'll be a muuuuch better player for it.

Def. agree with c/r river in AQ hand.


Edit. Testing out Poker Shortcuts so wanted to play at 25NL. What is going on?

Full Tilt Poker Game #13806914989: Table Jaylar (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 2:43:56 ET - 2009/08/04
Seat 1: killerpockets ($37.37)
Seat 2: headtheball ($25)
Seat 3: thisaintquin ($31.15)
Seat 5: SuitsUs ($25.25)
Seat 6: Jaturongkabaht ($15)
Jaturongkabaht posts the small blind of $0.10
killerpockets posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Tc Td]
headtheball folds
thisaintquin folds
SuitsUs raises to $0.85
Jaturongkabaht folds
Jaturongkabaht adds $0.10
killerpockets calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [2h 5h 9s]
killerpockets checks
SuitsUs bets $1.25
killerpockets calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [2h 5h 9s] [Qs]
killerpockets checks
SuitsUs bets $3
killerpockets calls $3
*** RIVER *** [2h 5h 9s Qs] [3s]
killerpockets checks
SuitsUs checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SuitsUs shows [Tc Td] a pair of Tens
killerpockets shows [7s Ks] a flush, King high
killerpockets wins the pot ($9.79) with a flush, King high
SuitsUs adds $4.85
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.30 | Rake $0.51
Board: [2h 5h 9s Qs 3s]
Seat 1: killerpockets (big blind) showed [7s Ks] and won ($9.79) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: headtheball didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: thisaintquin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: SuitsUs (button) showed [Tc Td] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 6: Jaturongkabaht (small blind) folded before the Flop


Seat 1: killerpockets ($57.62)
Seat 2: headtheball ($25)
Seat 3: thisaintquin ($30.80)
Seat 4: cut3pinoy4u ($10.49)
Seat 5: SuitsUs ($25)
Seat 6: Jaturongkabaht ($15)
Jaturongkabaht posts the small blind of $0.10
killerpockets posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Qs Js]
headtheball folds
thisaintquin folds
cut3pinoy4u folds
SuitsUs raises to $0.85
Jaturongkabaht calls $0.75
killerpockets calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [Ts 6s Tc]
Jaturongkabaht has 15 seconds left to act
Jaturongkabaht bets $2
killerpockets folds
SuitsUs calls $2
*** TURN *** [Ts 6s Tc] [Qd]
Jaturongkabaht has 15 seconds left to act
Jaturongkabaht checks
SuitsUs checks
*** RIVER *** [Ts 6s Tc Qd] [4s]
Jaturongkabaht has 15 seconds left to act
Jaturongkabaht bets $4.50
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs raises to $20.05
Jaturongkabaht calls $7.65, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $7.90 returned to SuitsUs
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SuitsUs shows [Qs Js] a flush, Queen high
Jaturongkabaht shows [9s As] a flush, Ace high
Jaturongkabaht wins the pot ($29.31) with a flush, Ace high
SuitsUs adds $15
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $30.85 | Rake $1.54
Board: [Ts 6s Tc Qd 4s]
Seat 1: killerpockets (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: headtheball didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: thisaintquin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: cut3pinoy4u didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: SuitsUs (button) showed [Qs Js] and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 6: Jaturongkabaht (small blind) showed [9s As] and won ($29.31) with a flush, Ace high
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Rest of today goot? No.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($50)
BB ($50)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($54.65)
CO ($29.25)
Hero ($55.65)

CO posts (SB) $0.25

Dealt to Hero 7Spade 7Heart

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $2

FLOP ($6) 4Diamond KHeart 7Diamond

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2, UTG+1 raises to $4, Hero raises to $8, UTG+1 raises to $12, Hero raises to $16, UTG+1 raises to $52.15 (AI), Hero calls $36.15

TURN ($110) 4Diamond KHeart 7Diamond 6Spade

RIVER ($110) 4Diamond KHeart 7Diamond 6Spade 5Club

UTG+1 shows KClub KDiamond
(Pre 80%, Flop 95.7%, Turn 97.7%)

Hero shows 7Spade 7Heart
(Pre 20%, Flop 4.3%, Turn 2.3%)

UTG+1 wins $107



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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($106)
BB ($53.85)
Hero ($50)
UTG+1 ($37.85)
CO ($50)
BTN ($52.30)

Dealt to Hero 9Spade 9Diamond

Hero raises to $2.25, UTG+1 calls $1.75, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($5.25) 3Diamond 2Spade 3Spade

Hero bets $3.50, UTG+1 raises to $7, Hero raises to $18, UTG+1 raises to $35.60 (AI), Hero calls $17.60

TURN ($76.45) 3Diamond 2Spade 3Spade QHeart

RIVER ($76.45) 3Diamond 2Spade 3Spade QHeart 8Spade

Hero shows 9Spade 9Diamond
(Pre 71%, Flop 82.0%, Turn 4.5%)

UTG+1 shows QSpade 6Diamond
(Pre 29%, Flop 18.0%, Turn 95.5%)

UTG+1 wins $73.45
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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($38.25)
BB ($8.35)
UTG ($51.30)
Hero ($52.90)
CO ($19.40)
BTN ($50.75)

Dealt to Hero KDiamond TDiamond

fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, BTN calls $1.75, fold, fold

FLOP ($4.25) KClub TSpade JSpade

Hero bets $3, BTN raises to $10, Hero raises to $27, BTN raises to $49 (AI), Hero calls $22

TURN ($102) KClub TSpade JSpade ASpade

RIVER ($102) KClub TSpade JSpade ASpade ADiamond

BTN shows JClub JHeart
(Pre 67%, Flop 89.7%, Turn 90.9%)

Hero shows KDiamond TDiamond
(Pre 33%, Flop 10.3%, Turn 9.1%)

BTN wins $99.25
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You should be cbetting bigger in all those hands.
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Agreed about the last one. The first two were with reads that they spazzed out against low bets.
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Good luck. I've been watching this thread but just caught up on last several weeks. Hope it turns/stays turned for you.
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Big hand went up $100 today. Back down to around even. Why? Oh, coolers.
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QQ < AA CO vs. SB. BE today I think.
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KK < AJ allin pre fml
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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($50.25)
BB ($78.35)
Hero ($51.20)
UTG+1 ($87.95)
CO ($10.70)
BTN ($57.30)

Dealt to Hero KClub KHeart

Hero raises to $1.75, fold, fold, BTN raises to $6, fold, fold, Hero raises to $13, BTN raises to $57.30 (AI), Hero calls $38.20 (AI)

FLOP ($103) 3Diamond KSpade 8Club

TURN ($103) 3Diamond KSpade 8Club THeart

RIVER ($103) 3Diamond KSpade 8Club THeart 8Spade

Hero shows KClub KHeart
(Pre 18%, Flop 91.4%, Turn 95.5%)

BTN shows ASpade ADiamond
(Pre 82%, Flop 8.6%, Turn 4.5%)

Hero wins $100

Wow - I was so close to quitting for a loooooong time
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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
Hero ($54.15)
BB ($57.85)
UTG ($50)
CO ($17.75)
BTN ($59.15)

Dealt to Hero KDiamond KHeart

fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $6, fold, BTN calls $4.50

FLOP ($12.50) 8Club 4Heart 3Club

Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

TURN ($28.50) 8Club 4Heart 3Club TClub

Hero bets $19, BTN raises to $45.15 (AI), Hero calls $21.15 (AI)


? Guy was bad
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Down 2 buyins on the day as well as the month. I'm really tired physically and mentally. As in I didn't sleep at all last night and haven't really slept in over a week and a half. I have had a twitch in my eye literally 24/7 since last Friday. My family and gf have noticed it. I'm also having personal problems with something that's been on my mind a lot. A combination of running worse than ever and my personal life has just equated to insomnia. During the day, I've become very lethargic and have become very short tempered when it comes to talking to anyone. Either irl or on AIM/MSN (sorry). Not quite sure how to stop it but it will be stopped. My gf is driving down today to visit me and we should be together for a little bit so I'll probably avoid poker at all costs for a couple of days.

What's bugging me the most by far is that I am learning so much and cannot wait to use the better player in me to only get shitted on and completely doubt everything. I forgot what it's like to win. I honestly have. I'm basically "owned" (in a good way though) by a couple of players coaching me for awhile and it's just so frustrating having them watch me and just say "std" or receiving HH and saying "std". They can't really see many big leaks. I know I don't play that great at all but like I see completely obvious, HUGE leaks at my stakes and it's just getting ridiculous. They'll win, I won't. Not even in hands against me. I'll watch them do the stupidest things against each other but no problem, they're a winner in the long run.

So, yeah, I guess to try to help myself I am going to complete some range exercises for myself and for one of my coaches in which he'll give me feedback on. I'm really hoping it helps and I can learn some things. I'm studying a lot with videos/articles/HEM review and stuff like that too. I have to start my 15k hands at 100NL run soon and I just have no confidence. It should be interesting. I guess now I don't really care about losing a lot because I'm still in the mind frame of wanting to flip $2k. I mean I probably won't flip but I've become numb to everything. Time to stop staying afloat and either sink or swim.
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For what it's worth, I'm a noob. But here's my thoughts, feel free to ignore them.

I don't know exactly what you're going through, because I've never been through such a bad run, so you might think I have no idea what I'm talking about (and you'd be right) but my advice is more general than that.

Dude, it sucks to hear it, but you can't let poker affect you like this. It's a vicious circle. You let it affect you this badly it affects your life, and when you're not good in life you will be on permanent tilt. So you're on permanent tilt so you lose at poker (and it doesn't help that you've been having bad luck), which pisses you off and then affects your life. Which then... well, you get the point.

My advice: take an extended break from poker and just chill for a while, read some Poker Books (I highly suggest The Poker Mindset, if you haven't read it, which by your post I doubt you have), try learning/playing PLO or some other variant and play at uber small stakes for shits and giggles. Just get away from it man, come back refreshed and knowing that you're going to make the best play that you know how to do on every single hand - and anything else is irrelevant, the results of that hand, the results of that session, or the results of the past week.

Also, going into 100NL, a stake harder than what you're currently playing, with the mind frame of wanting to flip 2,000$ is silly. You need to be risk neutral - that is, neither wanting to gamble, nor scared to do it - at poker to win.

Anyways, yeah. Good luck man, I really hope this turns around for you. You know you have an edge over the players at your stake, so you will turn it around. It's just a matter of time and playing the best you can, all the time.
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Stop playing poker until you get your personal stuff sorted out. Start exercising regularly, and eating healthy. Have fun and laugh with friends. The rest will take care of itself.
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The personal stuff might take a looong time. And it definitely has to do with friends so...yeah...can't really hang out with them.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
Hero ($50)
BB ($58)
UTG ($11.05)
CO ($23.20)
BTN ($58.85)

Dealt to Hero 8Spade 8Diamond

fold, fold, BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50, fold

FLOP ($4.50) 8Club JClub THeart

Hero bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50

TURN ($11.50) 8Club JClub THeart KDiamond

Hero bets $8, BB raises to $16, Hero calls $8

RIVER ($43.50) 8Club JClub THeart KDiamond 3Heart

[color=red]Hero checks, BB bets $11.50

Should I be shoving here? Seems like I lost value
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