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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 9:00pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5683 WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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I like this. Flop is pretty dry really. He has to turn up with a fairly random 68 here for the 4 to be bad. Frankly a 34, 45, 56, 67 type hand is more likely. Not to mention a donk wont fold any J here, and could even have some kind of dumb JX that gives him 2P.
His overbet on turn is obviously a bit sickening, but I really think he can have 2P or Pair + draw and play the same way.
If you were last to act on flop I'd probably raise, but in your position I'd take the chance and just call here. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 9:01pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 1477 WPP: 98
Location: swonging and swonging
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IP, dry board, nothing wrong with flat calling on the flop.
The 4 really only sucks a little bit. It's as likely to give someone 2p as it is to give them a straight, and you still have 10 outs to beat a straight. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 10:11pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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| I got lucky and hit on the river...gg 86s |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 11:35pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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I really just cannot win to save my life. Everytime I cbet with air I get called and such and it's just really frustrating. Everyone is catching hands against me when my range is dominating them completely ahhhh. I'm running above EV this session and I should be even EV wise it sucks. I'm not hitting any nut hands and it's really frustrating me. I got AA once and split with...AA. I got KK twice and got dominated by people calling with Ax. I've gotten coolered twice with QQ < KK after he flatted my 3bet pre and then AK < QQ on a KQx board in a 3bet pot when he donk shoves his pot sized stack into me. Both were against donks. Then I get another guy who had semi-nitty stats but got allin with TPWK with his stack earlier and lost JJ to his KK. I'm guessing these are coolers but this means I need my cbet pots to go well and they definitely are not.
I feel as if I should be playing extremely nitty because a lot of my players are loose aggros. This frustrates me as well. Also, I finally don't call with any SCs vs. EP raisers who are regs. I think I fixed that leak. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 12:29am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5683 WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| I have about 50% cbet, and cbet success of under 50%. Its just crazy. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 12:29am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 3304 WPP: 87
Location: Toronto'ish
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| kmind wrote: | | Should I raise flop? |
zomgggg YESSSSS
There are times to slow play and times not to slowplay. The guy is betting into four ppl, so if there was any time that someone was making a "I have a real hand" statement.. this is it! And you have a huge hand, raiiiiiiiiise. Also you're giving ppl a cheap look at a free card when the only action you'll get on the turn is likely when they've hit a hand that beats you.
If this was HU .. sure slowplay sometimes.. but not when the guy is showing this much confidence in his hand multiway. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 12:33am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 7006 WPP: 71
Location: Pwnsylvania
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pick up chess imo
or PLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 12:38am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 813 WPP: 69
Location: in my dad's account making him manies
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| You need to find a way to have fun playing poker again imo. Play HU, play PLO, play HU PLO, donk around in freerolls, play live crazy pineapple or blind man's bluff with a bunch of friends, or even take a break until you feel good about playing again. Also, when my cbet pots are not going well, I'll start on a new table, raise my button, and just check down like A or K high or a small pair with someone who is playing passively out of the blinds, even on a dry board. I feel like I get a lot more respect on my cbets after this, particularly against the players in my blinds when I'm in the CO and BTN. Also note that it's not always a bad thing if people aren't folding to your cbets, adjust properly. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 12:57am Post subject:
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2009

Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 1656 WPP: 64
Location: bluffing scare cards
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| Parasurama wrote: | | You need to find a way to have fun playing poker again imo. Play HU, play PLO, play HU PLO, donk around in freerolls, play live crazy pineapple or blind man's bluff with a bunch of friends, or even take a break until you feel good about playing again. Also, when my cbet pots are not going well, I'll start on a new table, raise my button, and just check down like A or K high or a small pair with someone who is playing passively out of the blinds, even on a dry board. I feel like I get a lot more respect on my cbets after this, particularly against the players in my blinds when I'm in the CO and BTN. Also note that it's not always a bad thing if people aren't folding to your cbets, adjust properly. |
This is good advice. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 5:42pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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Yeah good posts really appreciate them. Poker hasn't really been "fun" for awhile. At least when I'm losing it sucks.
I'm so tired of this shit:
http://www.holdemmanager.net
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt Game#11837236429
omgmyhurrr ($50.25)
M4v3 ($15)
Kruse82 ($47.95)
jaycas ($37.20)
SuitsUs ($50)
ImScurred ($50.25)
omgmyhurrr posts (SB) $0.25
M4v3 posts (BB) $0.50
Dealt to SuitsUs Tc Ts
Kruse82 raises to $1.50
fold,
SuitsUs calls $1.50
fold, fold, fold,
FLOP ($3.75) 6s Kc 3d
Kruse82 bets $1.50
SuitsUs calls $1.50
TURN ($6.75) 6s Kc 3d Td
Kruse82 bets $6.75
SuitsUs raises to $18.50
Kruse82 calls $11.75
RIVER ($43.75) 6s Kc 3d Td 9d
Kruse82 bets $7
SuitsUs raises to $28.50
Kruse82 calls $19.45
Kruse82 shows Qs Js
(Flop 29.2%, Turn 18.2%)
SuitsUs shows Tc Ts
(Flop 70.8%, Turn 81.8%)
Kruse82 wins $93.65 |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 8:30pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 3304 WPP: 87
Location: Toronto'ish
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Whenever someone is showing a lot of strength, you should feel better about raising your strong hands harder/bigger than you normally would, without being worried about losing their action.
The other hand was because he was betting into a big field, and this hand is his turn bet sizing. He's betting pot which makes me feel like he's not going anywhere. I'd probably raise to around 21-22ish.
ul though, but you'll punish the fish in the long run! |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Apr 2009, 10:04pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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| Not really sure if FTRers are playing me ridiculously loose and hitting on purpose? Either way, yes, you tilted me. Also regs calling with K7 and me hitting NFD is fun. Fuck this game. I only play because it gains me money but not lately. I'm not playing badly either. |
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Posted: Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 12:28am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 3392 WPP: 82
Location: the ether
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| kmind wrote: | | Fuck this game. I only play because it gains me money but not lately. I'm not playing badly either. |
wow... this headspace is interesting.
I've been exploring where poker fits in my life recently.
Get better is my answer.
Also, stop getting your money in bad on the river (posted hand above....) |
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Posted: Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 5:41am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 2327 WPP: 97
Location: Viva la Puteria! / Nar Shaddaa Red Sector obv.
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| Jack Sawyer wrote: | | Happy BDAY kmizzledizzle!! |
still getting older, aren't we? |
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Posted: Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 1:58pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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Thanks a lot man you have always been so extremely generous to not only me but everyone else. Much love!
I won't have internet access later tonight and not sure when I'll get it back...could be hours or weeks but really haven't played any poker this weekend. Went to VA Tech/Radford for Quadfest and just partied with my gf and roommate and our friends. Was a lot of fun. |
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Posted: Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 7:37pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5683 WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| I think you've been tilting a bit lately. Hopefully this break will help. Always around to chat if you need it man. |
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Posted: Tue, 28 Apr 2009, 12:58pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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| happpppyyyy belateddd bday homie!!!! |
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Posted: Tue, 28 Apr 2009, 4:15pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 3304 WPP: 87
Location: Toronto'ish
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| I'm very close to starting a "Ship kmizzle to Vegas" op thread.... operation will have various strategies on how to accomplish this. hmmm |
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Posted: Sun, 03 May 2009, 7:04pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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So April ended up being really weird and I think I finished around even or so. Probably positive because of Rakeback? Not quite sure as I have hands on another computer that are crucial.
Anyways, for May, I am in the process of redeveloping my ranges/game to try and mass multi-table more. The thing is, yeah it may stunt some of my growth but if this were to work my game would definitely be better as I'm really focusing on forming ranges. So far I played 1177 hands (all today) for +3 buyins, 1 buyin OVER EV which is meh/cool. |
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Posted: Mon, 04 May 2009, 1:13am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 1477 WPP: 98
Location: swonging and swonging
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| kmind wrote: | So April ended up being really weird and I think I finished around even or so. Probably positive because of Rakeback? Not quite sure as I have hands on another computer that are crucial.
Anyways, for May, I am in the process of redeveloping my ranges/game to try and mass multi-table more. The thing is, yeah it may stunt some of my growth but if this were to work my game would definitely be better as I'm really focusing on forming ranges. So far I played 1177 hands (all today) for +3 buyins, 1 buyin OVER EV which is meh/cool. | meh/cool... what exactly is meh/cool? |
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Posted: Mon, 04 May 2009, 12:45pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Location: Not Giving In
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It's cool that I'm winning more money than I should but I'd rather win the same amount with running "normal".
I finish exams this week so should be able to play a lot afterwards. This summer should be interesting as I move out of my apartment and end my 3 years of living with my best friend . It should allow for far more poker playing but knowing me I'll slack. |
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Posted: Mon, 04 May 2009, 1:55pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 762 WPP: 65
Location: Disturbia
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| kmind wrote: | It's cool that I'm winning more money than I should but I'd rather win the same amount with running "normal".
I finish exams this week so should be able to play a lot afterwards. This summer should be interesting as I move out of my apartment and end my 3 years of living with my best friend . It should allow for far more poker playing but knowing me I'll slack. |
Everyone runs hot sometimes. Stop looking at the evees and thinking hey i'm winning more than i should and focus on playing good solid poker. |
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Posted: Mon, 04 May 2009, 9:05pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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Just finished one exam and was so pumped to start playing again. Hopefully I'd run hot again.
In my 278 hand session:
Full Tilt Poker Game #12032613276: Table Window (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:00:25 ET - 2009/05/04
Seat 1: Guitarzan5150 ($50)
Seat 2: SuitsUs ($96.45)
Seat 3: polarop ($50)
Seat 4: alista ($53)
Seat 5: makemonay80 ($67.85)
Seat 6: vee_dk ($24.80)
vee_dk posts the small blind of $0.25
Guitarzan5150 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ks Kc]
SuitsUs raises to $1.75
alista folds
makemonay80 folds
vee_dk folds
Guitarzan5150 has 15 seconds left to act
Guitarzan5150 raises to $5.50
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs raises to $12.50
vee_dk: all in
Guitarzan5150 has 15 seconds left to act
Guitarzan5150 raises to $30.50
SuitsUs raises to $91.75
Guitarzan5150 calls $19.50, and is all in
SuitsUs shows [Ks Kc]
Guitarzan5150 shows [Ad Ac]
Uncalled bet of $41.75 returned to SuitsUs
*** FLOP *** [6h Jd 2s]
*** TURN *** [6h Jd 2s] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [6h Jd 2s Th] [6c]
SuitsUs shows two pair, Kings and Sixes
Guitarzan5150 shows two pair, Aces and Sixes
Guitarzan5150 wins the pot ($97.25) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
SuitsUs adds $3.55
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100.25 | Rake $3
Board: [6h Jd 2s Th 6c]
Seat 1: Guitarzan5150 (big blind) showed [Ad Ac] and won ($97.25) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 2: SuitsUs showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 3: polarop is sitting out
Seat 4: alista didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: makemonay80 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: vee_dk (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #12032406611: Table Slam (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:47:58 ET - 2009/05/04
Seat 1: BeckSobaka ($77.70)
Seat 2: Rainman1 ($50)
Seat 3: richE666 ($71.85)
Seat 4: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 5: Diksht Anurag ($55.60)
Seat 6: sobaaad ($61.20)
Diksht Anurag posts the small blind of $0.25
sobaaad posts the big blind of $0.50
Rainman1 posts $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [5s 5h]
BeckSobaka folds
Rainman1 raises to $2
richE666 folds
Diksht Anurag has been disconnected
SuitsUs calls $2
Diksht Anurag has reconnected
Diksht Anurag folds
BeckSobaka is feeling normal
sobaaad folds
*** FLOP *** [5c Th 2d]
Rainman1 checks
SuitsUs checks
*** TURN *** [5c Th 2d] [Kd]
Rainman1 bets $2.50
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs raises to $8.50
Rainman1 raises to $20
SuitsUs raises to $48, and is all in
Rainman1 calls $28, and is all in
SuitsUs shows [5s 5h]
Rainman1 shows [Ts Tc]
*** RIVER *** [5c Th 2d Kd] [Qc]
SuitsUs shows three of a kind, Fives
Rainman1 shows three of a kind, Tens
Rainman1 wins the pot ($97.75) with three of a kind, Tens
SuitsUs adds $50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100.75 | Rake $3
Board: [5c Th 2d Kd Qc]
Seat 1: BeckSobaka didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Rainman1 showed [Ts Tc] and won ($97.75) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 3: richE666 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: SuitsUs (button) showed [5s 5h] and lost with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 5: Diksht Anurag (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: sobaaad (big blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #12032507725: Table Balzac (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:53:26 ET - 2009/05/04
Seat 1: KSELI ($27.05)
Seat 2: KankleSores ($40.20)
Seat 3: HumNasty03 ($47.75)
Seat 4: dashoes ($53.75)
Seat 5: SuitsUs ($52)
Seat 6: Akrash0r ($56.40)
SuitsUs posts the small blind of $0.25
Akrash0r posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ah Kd]
KSELI calls $0.50
KankleSores calls $0.50
HumNasty03 calls $0.50
dashoes folds
SuitsUs raises to $3.25
Akrash0r has 15 seconds left to act
Akrash0r folds
KSELI folds
KankleSores folds
HumNasty03 has 15 seconds left to act
HumNasty03 calls $2.75
*** FLOP *** [2s Js Kh]
SuitsUs bets $6
HumNasty03 has 15 seconds left to act
HumNasty03 calls $6
*** TURN *** [2s Js Kh] [9d]
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs bets $13.50
HumNasty03 has 15 seconds left to act
HumNasty03 calls $13.50
*** RIVER *** [2s Js Kh 9d] [Qh]
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs checks
HumNasty03 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SuitsUs shows [Ah Kd] a pair of Kings
HumNasty03 shows [Qc Jc] two pair, Queens and Jacks
HumNasty03 wins the pot ($44.65) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
SuitsUs adds $20.75
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $47 | Rake $2.35
Board: [2s Js Kh 9d Qh]
Seat 1: KSELI folded before the Flop
Seat 2: KankleSores folded before the Flop
Seat 3: HumNasty03 showed [Qc Jc] and won ($44.65) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 4: dashoes (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: SuitsUs (small blind) showed [Ah Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: Akrash0r (big blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #12032289747: Table Window (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:41:45 ET - 2009/05/04
Seat 1: FLKK1118 ($18.65)
Seat 2: SuitsUs ($51.80)
Seat 3: station sushi ($113.15)
Seat 4: Carl878 ($23.75)
Seat 5: makemonay80 ($46.25)
Seat 6: springaldo ($20.65)
station sushi posts the small blind of $0.25
Carl878 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ks Ac]
makemonay80 calls $0.50
springaldo calls $0.50
FLKK1118 folds
SuitsUs raises to $2.75
station sushi folds
Carl878 calls $2.25
makemonay80 calls $2.25
springaldo raises to $20.65, and is all in
SuitsUs raises to $51.80, and is all in
Carl878 folds
makemonay80 folds
SuitsUs shows [Ks Ac]
springaldo shows [Qh Jh]
Uncalled bet of $31.15 returned to SuitsUs
*** FLOP *** [5s 7d 4c]
*** TURN *** [5s 7d 4c] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [5s 7d 4c Jd] [2s]
SuitsUs shows Ace King high
springaldo shows a pair of Jacks
springaldo wins the pot ($44.70) with a pair of Jacks
SuitsUs adds $18.85
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $47.05 | Rake $2.35
Board: [5s 7d 4c Jd 2s]
Seat 1: FLKK1118 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: SuitsUs (button) showed [Ks Ac] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 3: station sushi (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Carl878 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: makemonay80 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: springaldo showed [Qh Jh] and won ($44.70) with a pair of Jacks
Only down 2 buyins overall so kind of cool I guess. I obviously wanted to play more but meh I need a break. |
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Posted: Mon, 04 May 2009, 9:25pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5683 WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| Concentrate on how well you played to only be down 2 buyins after all of that, rather than the beats/coolers themselves. |
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Posted: Mon, 04 May 2009, 11:50pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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Thanks, Ben. Still not sure why my HEM messes up as a lot of times my report tab is different than my graph but ended up playing 711 hands total and just couldn't do it anymore. Just lost an 88%er for 80bb. Again, that said, I'm only down half a buyin now. EV wise + river not being a Q in that one hand + KK hand just not happening I'd be up at least 3 buyins so I'll take it.
Edit: Now up 2 buyins. Some dude donked his stack into me two consecutive hands. Lost AK = KQ < TT 3 way on a capped table meaning $15 is max bet. These table are most likely not worth my time but so far I am finding some easy easy money here. |
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Posted: Tue, 05 May 2009, 7:13pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Location: Not Giving In
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Ok just finished another session.
Some HH for review:
In this hand, villain is a TAG playing 19/17/6 over a few hundred hands. His flop aggression is 46%. The thing here, is that I only think he reps 22 as he should have a PP in his range a ton, mainly a smaller one. 66 is a possibility. Basically, my range is very inelastic and I perceive him to know this which may be bad? This is my whole thought process and why I played why I did.
Full Tilt Poker Game #12049008159: Table Posse (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:26:08 ET - 2009/05/05
Seat 1: inqui555 ($58.20)
Seat 2: SuitsUs ($58.10)
Seat 3: goods2001 ($93.80)
Seat 4: Pete Cooper ($52.95)
Seat 5: filliboy ($23.05)
Seat 6: rcgvilasboas ($55.35)
goods2001 posts the small blind of $0.25
Pete Cooper posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ks Kh]
filliboy calls $0.50
rcgvilasboas has 15 seconds left to act
rcgvilasboas calls $0.50
inqui555 folds
SuitsUs raises to $3.25
goods2001 folds
Pete Cooper folds
filliboy folds
rcgvilasboas has 15 seconds left to act
rcgvilasboas calls $2.75
*** FLOP *** [6d Jd 2s]
rcgvilasboas has 15 seconds left to act
rcgvilasboas checks
SuitsUs bets $4.50
rcgvilasboas raises to $10
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs calls $5.50
*** TURN *** [6d Jd 2s] [5h]
rcgvilasboas has 15 seconds left to act
rcgvilasboas bets $16
SuitsUs calls $16
*** RIVER *** [6d Jd 2s 5h] [5d]
rcgvilasboas has 15 seconds left to act
rcgvilasboas bets $26.10, and is all in
SuitsUs calls $26.10
Here, villain is playing 17/15/4 over a couple of hundred hands. IMO, by calling OOP his range is heavily towards a PP. I am in the CO so he could throw in like JTs+. What strikes me here is that his aggro. frequency was 38% on the flop and 34% on the turn. This made me believe he was turning his PP into bluffs, as well as his draws/sets so I could call flop and c/rai most turns, preferably if they gave me some more outs. The only way I should call flop is if I have a plan of being aggro. on the turn so I probably should have waited for a better hand.
Full Tilt Poker Game #12048464113: Table Jacyra (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:55:09 ET - 2009/05/05
Seat 1: 14redsox14 ($101.85)
Seat 2: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 3: sh2007 ($52.60)
Seat 4: KarlosAK ($53.20), is sitting out
Seat 5: TRob20 ($57.20)
Seat 6: vone2k7 ($65.85)
TRob20 posts the small blind of $0.25
vone2k7 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ac 9s]
14redsox14 folds
SuitsUs raises to $1.75
sh2007 folds
TRob20 has 15 seconds left to act
TRob20 folds
vone2k7 calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [5c Jc Qs]
vone2k7 checks
SuitsUs bets $2
vone2k7 raises to $7.50
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
SuitsUs calls $5.50
*** TURN *** [5c Jc Qs] [3c]
vone2k7 bets $12
SuitsUs raises to $40.75, and is all in
This hand is against 2 donks over 20 hands. The original raiser is just horrible raising a bunch of hands and the other guy is playing 38/17/0.9. Again, only 20 hands. I can (easily) get 3 streets of value here, right?
Full Tilt Poker Game #12048425591: Table Posse (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:53:00 ET - 2009/05/05
Seat 1: aghoul5 ($8.45)
Seat 2: SuitsUs ($50)
Seat 3: goods2001 ($58.30)
Seat 4: PerttuZ ($53.50)
Seat 5: filliboy ($37.05)
Seat 6: razormarsh ($48.85)
aghoul5 posts the small blind of $0.25
SuitsUs posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SuitsUs [Ac Ad]
goods2001 folds
PerttuZ folds
filliboy folds
razormarsh calls $0.50
aghoul5 raises to $2
SuitsUs calls $1.50
razormarsh calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Ah 3h Ts]
aghoul5 checks
SuitsUs bets $4
razormarsh calls $4
aghoul5 folds
*** TURN *** [Ah 3h Ts] [7h]
SuitsUs bets $10
razormarsh calls $10
*** RIVER *** [Ah 3h Ts 7h] [2d]
SuitsUs has 15 seconds left to act
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Hand 1: This looks fine, his range is much more draws than sets. With $26 behind I probably just shove over turn.
Hand 2: I dont like this. I dont think you need to be pushing things like this.
Hand 3: Against 2 bad players I'd just 3-bet pre. Theres no need to get fancy here man. PSB on river? I dunno, I probably size it a bit smaller having got here like this. I bet $5 on flop though, which lets us bet a little more on turn and makes river shove better (not that I plan it from the flop tbh, but its what I'd do and it works out). Bad players who presumably hate to fold, get your value in. I definately go for 3 streets even with the hitting turn though.
Dont go getting crazy trying to make sick reads and advanced plays, get your value when its there and make your plays with some decent equity. |
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Posted: Tue, 05 May 2009, 10:23pm Post subject:
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Ben:
Hand 1. What draws does he have?
Hand 2. What is he trying to represent?
Hand 3. The original guy's stack was $8 to begin with so I might get his stack but I believe flatting gets his stack plus a good chance at the other dude's. $5 on the flop I def. agree with. River was like a PSB but yeah wasn't sure if I just go for a little value or go for it. IMO, his calling range is inelastic (yay for that being my new favorite word) so I figured might as well go for top value.
Basically, what I tend to disagree with more than most is these TAGs having SC in their ranges OOP. In hand 1, I just can't see him limping behind like A4s or something, it seems like I always see an isolation raise or a limp behind when he has a small PP. For hand 2, I'm sure he 3bets JJ/QQ more often than not right? I have the Ac. What is he representing other than 555? It seems like he can be raising with a lot more and my Ahi could be good + I have outs + if he folds I get a nice amount of money. |
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Posted: Tue, 05 May 2009, 11:12pm Post subject:
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Hand 1 seems like a shitty place to fastplay a set. He has to hope you have AJ or QQ+ here to get paid. Sure theres a FD on board, but thats it. He doesnt have JJ, and 66 is unlikely from this position. So he can have 22 and rarely 66, but I dont think we can discount SCs entirely. I expect to see a 78s a lot more than an A8s hand here. So its not so much that I put a large number of draws in his range, but more so little of anything else, so as a proportion of his range its large. When you're basically worried about 1 hand (3 combos) it cant be bad to call down with an overpair.
Hand 2, he's pretty much representing AQ, QJ or 55. Thats not really the point. You end up putting your stack in the middle with a shitty hand in a pot where you have very little invested. If you dont want to wait for a big hand to play back at this guy with, at least wait for one with some equity. This just seems like high variance stuff you dont need in your game.
Hand 3 I missed stack sizes (use the converter !!). I guess you have reads/etc on the river, for me v's a std fish I'd bet smaller, but this isnt bad as such. I guess he cant fold an A here which is most of his range.
Hand 1 is tough. I cant put put a single hand in a 19/17s limp behind fish in UTG+1 position range, so we just gotta guess a bit. |
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Posted: Tue, 05 May 2009, 11:48pm Post subject:
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Yeah I agree with most of what you said about hand 1 and I ld0 won vs. his 77.
Hand 2 - First of all, AQ is a bluff catcher and I don't think he'd raise the flop. So he's down to QJ and 55. Doesn't this allow him to have like TJ or random PP that are just trying to bluff? If that is the case, don't we have like at least 25% equity + a ton of FE? |
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Posted: Wed, 06 May 2009, 12:42am Post subject:
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People will raise AQ on a drawy board in hand 2. Not everyone all the time, but I wouldnt be surprised by him having that.
Its weird how people do spazzy stuff with PPs, but then again we both dont need to look too far back to when we used to do stuff like that I guess.
I'm not saying hand 2 is terrible, theres some theory behind it obviously, but it is high variance at a time when variance has been affecting you both in results and emotionally lately. |
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Posted: Wed, 06 May 2009, 1:10am Post subject:
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| Yeah you are right about most of that. I still think AQ is more of a flat than you think but meh they'll raise some yeah. I broke even in my session today and I'm not too upset over that. Really think I'm playing better and am up like 5.5 buyins this month. Hopefully I continue that trend. Also in the process of upgrading to two monitors again finally. I played with my laptop + external monitor up until I got a desktop this past Christmas so I've been running on 1 for the past 4+ months and that needs to stop. I'm up to 9 tabling and really feeling good with it. This will sound bad, but I'm really hoping to add more tables as I really think this will help my hourly. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 May 2009, 4:00am Post subject:
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| Getting set over setted 3 times I believe this month is no fun. Also won, in a 4bet pot, AA vs. Q8 on a Q8x board which is good but come on what horrible play preflop by villain. Also loss KK < AA ld0 also AA < KK fuck that shit allin on the flop too 91% at least. Winning a lot of my flips though. So not really sure if I'm running well or not, EV wise it obv. says I am but I mean he should never have Q8 and set over setted it ridiculous. Still 9 tabling with semi-decent success. One hand I am unsure of because I think villain stacks off lightish at my stakes but if he doesn't it's a clear fold and I lost to the very top of his range so not sure how to even get advice on that. Been playing pretty well, obviously at the highest BR in maybe a year and started out the month on a sick run but today I lost 2/3 of that shit. Don't remember the hands though, will hopefully review tomorrow. I'll be gone Sunday-Thursday with absolutely not playing so hopefully I can win some back tomorrow. |
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Posted: Sat, 09 May 2009, 10:43pm Post subject:
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| Yeah, thats why I'm not a fan of using all in EV as a guide for how well you're running. A lot of the 'bad luck' or 'good luck' spots arent really included in there. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 May 2009, 11:51am Post subject:
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http://www.holdemmanager.net
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt Game#12251999201
Nivek92 ($61.90)
GG_UNDERtheS ($52.05)
bacnamahn ($28.75)
SuitsUs ($50)
ckShoop ($58.65)
SuperMeff ($52.75)
Nivek92 posts (SB) $0.25
GG_UNDERtheSEA posts (BB) $0.50
Dealt to SuitsUs Jc Ac
SuitsUs raises to $1.75
fold,
SuperMeff calls $1.75
fold, fold,
FLOP ($4.25) 2h 2s 9s
SuitsUs bets $3
SuperMeff calls $3
TURN ($10.25) 2h 2s 9s 8s
SuitsUs bets $7
SuperMeff raises to $14
SuitsUs raises to $21
SuperMeff folds
SuitsUs shows Jc Ac
SuitsUs wins $36.35
FU imo. For some reason it says I showed my hand but I did not. Damn HEM doesn't show the same hands in the reports view as the graph which sucks because it shows me down over a buyin today when in fact i somehow scrapped a $2 win. I'm not playing great today and am not running well, nor bad really, just not hitting my sets. I'm sort of seeing more spots when my range is stronger, or more importantly at my stakes when their range is weak as shit. My hand above had to do with history. My HEM didn't save it but on another table like 2 minutes later I stacked the same guy with the nuts vs. his TPTK when it was obvious he was beat. GG me.
Got a new monitor which was bigger than my last (this one is 22in while the other is like 21 which is a weird sized monitor). I am having trouble finding a graphic cards that will fit into my computer since it's a slimcase which sucks but I have a thread in the Tools of Poker for that.
I'm hoping to play a lot soon and actually try mass multitabling which a lot say is a no-no but I'm trying to rack points/rakeback/sometimes I feel like I play better with more tables. I'm actually thinking about doing a 3-day mini marathon but won't really give out the details on how much I plan to play. It's not a shit ton. |
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Posted: Thu, 21 May 2009, 12:51am Post subject:
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At my parents' so just played for fun 2 tabling 50NL capped games where like max. bet is $15. So soft. I lost 3 allin pots in about 125 hands:
1. JJ < AT on a T443tt board allin on the turn
2. 88 < 99 on a 875r board allin on the flop
3. AsTs < Qc8c on a QT4r board allin on the flop after I was the PFR and he had a $11 starting stack. He was aggro. so I didn't mind at all getting it. Turned spiked the A but still gg I lost.
That said, I finished up $20. CHA CHING!
Anyways, I am not sure how to generate traffic for this or even if FTR will allow this, but I need either an ebay gift card of $100 or someone to buy something off ebay for me (external video card) and I will pay them before hand of course. IF you choose to do this, I will ship you an extra $20 for your trouble or help out in other non-sexual ways.
edit: Shipped a friend $130 and he bought me what I needed! Ty TIMOSHI |
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Posted: Mon, 25 May 2009, 7:47pm Post subject:
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| This thread is suffering from a severe lack of updates! |
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Posted: Mon, 25 May 2009, 11:27pm Post subject:
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Agreed! I have a few things I want to talk about, not sure how it'll be perceived:
1. I haven't played much at all this month. Maybe 8k hands total. Like 7400 on one computer which has HEM and shows a profit of $680 and then I have like $100 of Rakeback. Not sure about the other computer. So solid month winrate wise.
2. I am being theory coached by ISF and finding myself thinking a lot differently about the game in a good way. Some spots come up that are like whoa wtf I can take this line and just dominate villain which is something very cool to do.
3. I am getting an hour of coaching from Renton tomorrow via a sweat. I obviously respect Renton and am pretty pumped about it albeit he seems to be really losing his mind over his recent downswing .
4. I am thinking about poker a lot, like always, and it's becoming more fun again than some of my recent posts. I believe it's because of the changes in my play/thought process as stuff actually makes sense again. I have come up with (can't say I invented the idea) a new way of looking at ranges that I visualize in my hand as a spectrum. It's kind of weird and can't really be explained, but it works for me. When I travel a lot and am on the road by myself on 3.5hr drives it's good to create new things to make poker somewhat more simplified.
Anyways (still #4), I have decided that because I am moving in with my parents come June 30th I want to play a ton of poker then and talk/sweat/whatever as I will not have to withdraw nearly as much. To help my boredom as well as ongoing interest, I have decided to coach microstakes like 25NL and below for a cheap price. I'm not really sure what some are trying to charge but I was thinking $25 for 10NL and below and $35 for 25NL. Some may not agree with my decision but I believe I can explain a lot of theories well and give good reasoning to certain lines, etc. I have received one-on-one coaching from some of the highestest players and I am able to pass down concepts and explain them in layman's terms. Not to mention, I talk to other high stakes regs who don't coach me (for money) but help me out tremendously pokerwise. I really think 25NL can easily be beaten and I can help. I looked at my stats over my last 50K hands (all hands on my main computer which I got ~Christmas) and I am a 4.5ptbb/100 winner at 50NL which includes me struggling a lot before talks with ISF, Sauce, Griffey and nutsinho who obv. make my winrate a ton higher and I have yet to check just those stats out. If this works out, I plan to move to 100NL hopefully permanently. Having a GF is a good way to lose moniez. |
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Posted: Fri, 29 May 2009, 4:41pm Post subject:
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Solid month so far even for few hands. Nice stuff.
How'd the coaching go? I'm getting to the point where I might consider getting some.
I think the giving coaching is a good plan, but you might need to have a bit presence .
We should sweat each other a couple times. You likely to be around much anytime soon? |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Jun 2009, 7:18pm Post subject:
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Probably next month I can sweat some, Ben. Moving out at the end of this month plus traveling basically every weekend from here on out including some week days means not much time for poker at all!
Let's talk about last month. I played a very low volume due to just having fun with friends + traveling to see my girlfriend a lot and staying at her place for days at a time with no internet connection. That said, I spent my alone time on the road (I usually have no driving buddy )just constantly thinking about the game which was good. I feel energized about it. I bought an extra monitor and I feel pretty comfortable at least 9 tabling. This means my volume was EXTRA bad considering I played more tables than usual.
Anyways, I have been thinking about different things involving poker, mainly ranges and how to exploit players. Exploiting players has been a pretty good breakthrough for me as I feel very confident in my thinking now that I understand certain concepts. I discovered the "whys" to a ton of things I started doing only because higher stake players told me to do so. This enabled me to look at theory posts in the past by better players and reading their posts and thinking "wow, I actually knew that beforehand". This makes me believe I am thinking much more correctly!
Regarding ranges, I am trying to get better (ld0) at hand reading so I started working on a range spectrum in my head that I try to use both on and off the tables. This has kind of lead me to see deeper into people's ranges and keeps me focused at most times, though I admit to being lazy rarely.
Here's the graph of the month:
I'm happy overall with winrate at least. Also, +$100 with Rakeback and probably down a little bit on the other computer.
About June. Will keep this short. Can't play much due to the situations mentioned above but I wanted to start a mini-op for using my profit for the first like 10 days of June and using it all on mine and my roommate's going away party but quickly realized that would/should be way too much money. I'm thinking $100, maybe a tad bit more, would suffice to be honest, since it's summer and a ton of people are at home.
That said, I'm up 2.5BI today in 300 hands (end mini-op? maybe). This hand kind of sucked as I am pretty sure I played it correctly. His stats were 8/8 at the time over 30 hands. I'm calling any river bet. I'm trying to decide if I should turn my hand into a bluff on the river or c/c. His hand range should be pretty easy imo.
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($61.35)
Hero (MP) ($54)
CO ($66.05)
Button ($53.35)
SB ($19.25)
BB ($50)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 , 9
1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, Button calls $1.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($4.25) 4 , 3 , 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button calls $3
Turn: ($10.25) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6, Hero calls $6
River: ($22.25) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks
Total pot: $22.25 | Rake: $1.10 |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Jun 2009, 7:37pm Post subject:
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| c/f I think. I dont see a guy like that 2 barrelling without an A. |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Jun 2009, 7:44pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| But he's not going to have an A in his range like ever unless it's AsQs. I put him on 22-JJ/AsQs. Since so few hands on him maybe some higher SC. Flushes and sets would raise the flop almost always. His turn play makes no sense and it seems as if he's bluffing now with a pp, probably with a spade attached, and doesn't know what to do. |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Jun 2009, 7:48pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

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30 hands, dont get too tied up. You really dont think he has at least AKo with a spade in his range?
I dunno, I just dont see a nit getting all bluffy here. Even if he has a PP I think the turn bet could be for protection so he's likely to check behind river. |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Jun 2009, 8:28pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| I still put AKo in his PF3betting range but who knows. I obv. didn't expect a bet on the turn unless of course he had AsQs but I have seen people do this a good amount of times with bad hands so I figured I could still be ahead. I agree with your last sentence which brings me back to a similar hand we argued about in this thread on whether or not I bet to get rid of ALL PP instead of letting him win some with TT or JJ. |
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This guy was tight but really aggressive. Great way to start a session.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($51.75)
UTG ($50)
MP ($64)
CO ($23.45)
Hero (Button) ($52.25)
SB ($110.10)
Preflop: Hero is Button with J , 10
3 folds, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold
Flop: ($3.50) 2 , J , 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, SB raises to $7, Hero calls $4.75
Turn: ($17.50) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50
River: ($40.50) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $40.50, Hero calls $32.25 (All-In)
Total pot: $105 | Rake: $3
Results in white below:
Hero had J , 10 (one pair, Jacks).
SB had 5 , 5 (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: SB won $102
Chipped my way to a +$30 session though regardless. Barely any hands at all but I just wanted to play a quick one. |
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Location: Ballarat, Australia
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4-of-a-Kind

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Cool thing is we just learn that he's terrible and move on. I couldn't tell if lower or higher cards were helping his range so I was like wtf stop being low I believe he has a PP a lot. This is the whole "let's bluff with a PP" deal here.
The other hand I posted villain had TT. |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Jun 2009, 5:28am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

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| Yeah, its amazing how often it works that way. I've won a few stacks lately with people doing that and not hitting. Of course when I was running bad it was amazing how often they hit their set on turn/river. |
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Yay I have already played over half the hands I did as last month (not really a brag). I'm actually semi-close to reaching the same profits as last month already AND I'm running badly EV wise + a lot of +++++EV plays before getting allin that I got sucked out on. That's good news.
Also good news; I (me and keepitstrict) got my computer and the dual monitors working again. Everything is going smoothly and quickly so far, knock on wood.
Not going to Vegas this summer sucks so I have to live through a lot of my friends going there. Just found out that one of my old friends has been dominating lately and will give a few WSOP events a shot. I'm going to be buying some shares from him I think. I think next year I'll get to go.
Anyways, I cashed a check a week ago, before I knew about the whole cashing out thing so I HOPE I get my money or else, well, I will have one unhappy girlfriend haha.
P.S. I play so nitty and am doing quite well. You do not have to go apeshit at this level to win. I'll be at 100NL fulltime next month I'm 83% sure. |
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Location: Toronto'ish
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we're missin ya here dude!
Only a couple more nights now. Tonight will be a big night, we'll have a few drinks for ya!
Glad to hear the nitfest is going well, keep it upppp |
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