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Irisheyes
Post Posted: Fri, 14 Mar 2008, 9:01am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Been pretty breakeven the last few days so I just want to throw a few hands out here.

1)
He's pretty much an unknown.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($313.85)
UTG+1 ($66.60)
CO ($330.87)
Hero ($314.00)
SB ($198.00)
BB ($200.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN King of Spades Queen of Spades
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, UTG calls $9, CO folds

Flop: King of Clubs Six of Hearts Six of Clubs ($27, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $23, UTG raises to $56, Hero calls $33

Could be a 6, could be a FD, people like to bluff paired flops. Not sure if I can fold here.

Turn: Eight of Spades ($139, 2 players)
UTG bets $40, Hero raises to $247, UTG calls $206.85

The turn was the thing that got me really. I thought he was trying to see a cheap river with his small bet and with the size of the pot I can only really shove here. I think this hand is ok given the information I had at the time.

2)
This hand is from today and I played it terribly tbh. Really tilted me how bad I played. He just sat down but has been loose and active.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($110.60)
CO ($227.40)
Hero ($252.10)
SB ($288.70)
BB ($297.02)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Diamonds Ace of Spades
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7

Flop: Five of Spades King of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds ($28, 3 players)
BB bets $28, 1 fold, Hero calls $28

I think this is ok, if he has a monster I have implieds on my GS and if he has nothing I can bluff the turn a good amount when he gives up.

Turn: Ace of Hearts ($84, 2 players)
BB bets $32, Hero calls $32
I can't really raise here because it's a pretty dangerous board, not sure if I'm ahead. His bet is weak though and I don't think folding is good. It's hard to know wtf he has though. I remember thinking I'll know on the river, if he leads he has it and he'll check if he doesn't.

River: Ten of Spades ($148, 2 players)
BB bets $148, Hero calls $148

Ya I play bad. I knew I was beat and made a fishy call.

3)
This one is just lol. Unknown.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($230.00)
UTG+1 ($310.64)
CO ($73.05)
Hero ($196.70)
SB ($213.09)
BB ($487.35)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN Ace of Diamonds King of Clubs
UTG raises to $7, UTG+1 raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $40, 2 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $24

Flop: Two of Diamonds Three of Hearts Seven of Diamonds ($90, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $18, Hero raises to $60, UTG+1 calls $42

I remember I got to this late and I didn't know wtf to do. I should just fold or raise bigger here, I just rushed in a number and the size sucked.

Turn: Five of Spades ($210, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $20, Hero calls $20

Outs.

River: Two of Spades ($250, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $30, Hero calls $30

Wtf? Flush draws missed, odds.

Overall the big mistake is the flop. I should have just made it $110 and called a shove. Gay mistake. Preflop is possibly bad too, I don't remember his stats atm.

There's a bunch of other smaller gay spots in my database that I had. I'm not playing so good at the moment I guess but in fairness theres tons of weird spots arising. Will play better in future.
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Post Posted: Fri, 14 Mar 2008, 9:02am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 9:34am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Clicked it back yo. Guy tries to be TAG, I was running him over and he had just started trying to play back. I think the fact that there is dead money pf is important here.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($574.50)
UTG+1 ($1471.52)
CO ($500.00)
Hero ($748.75)
SB ($514.50)
BB ($972.00)
[CO posted $5]

Pre-flop: ($12.5, 6 players) Hero is BTN Eight of Hearts Seven of Clubs
2 folds, CO checks, Hero raises to $22.5, 1 fold, BB calls $17.5, CO folds

Flop: Four of Diamonds Three of Clubs King of Clubs ($52.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35, BB raises to $100, Hero raises to $165, BB folds

Final Pot: $417.5

Hero wins $249.5 ( won +$62 )
BB lost -$122.50
CO lost -$5.00
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Post Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 9:54am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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nh

wtf made hand is he reppping anyways
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Post Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 9:55am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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sux when he shoves Ac7c but whatever
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Post Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 11:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Painful fold versus a loose passive station

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($629.25)
UTG+1 ($530.15)
CO ($436.15)
BTN ($395.88)
SB ($650.75)
BB ($500.00)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is UTG Four of Spades Four of Clubs
Hero raises to $17.5, UTG+1 calls $17.5, 4 folds

Flop: Jack of Hearts Four of Diamonds Ace of Diamonds ($42.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $36, UTG+1 calls $36

Turn: Jack of Clubs ($114.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $106, UTG+1 calls $106

River: Ace of Hearts ($326.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $326.5, Hero folds

Final Pot: $979.5

UTG+1 wins $323.5 ( lost -$162.5 )
Hero lost -$159.50
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Post Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 12:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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^^^ that pisses me off so much when that happens.
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Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 1:25pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Few big hands from 2/5 over the past 2 days:

Hnad 1)
Villain is a 50/5/1.2 fish calling station.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($257.50)
UTG+1 ($484.50)
CO ($654.85)
BTN ($549.20)
Hero ($856.85)
BB ($158.85)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is SB Ace of Diamonds Ace of Clubs
UTG calls $5, 1 fold, CO calls $5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $25, BB calls $20, UTG calls $20, CO calls $20

Yep.

Flop: Four of Hearts Eight of Diamonds Nine of Hearts ($102.5, 4 players)
Hero bets $73, 2 folds, CO calls $73

Fine I think. Obviously I'm calling if any of the shorties push.

Turn: King of Diamonds ($248.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $195, CO calls $195

Fine as well. I sized the bet so I could shove the river if I wanted to. His range has a ton of draws and some pairs. I'm assuming he'd raise his monsters on the flop but because he's so passive you never know.

River: Queen of Spades ($638.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $395, CO calls $361.85

The river was where my main problem was. FD missed, 67 missed, JT got there. I'm not so sure if he'll call an AI here with A9 or worse, it's hard to tell. I don't think c/c is good because he's so passive, I'm not so confident that he would bluff his missed FD if thats what he had. c/f is tight but I feel it's the best line actually. Would love some comments on this river please?

Hand 2)
Villain is super aggressive 33/18/4.2 with an aggression frequency of 38. My agg. frequency is about 33.5 and I think I'm reasonably aggressive.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($500.00)
Hero ($616.90)
CO ($541.40)
BTN ($547.05)
SB ($480.00)
BB ($1567.54)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Ace of Clubs Queen of Spades
1 fold, Hero raises to $17.5, 1 fold, BTN calls $17.5, 1 fold, BB calls $12.5

Flop: Eight of Clubs Jack of Diamonds Ten of Hearts ($55, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36, BTN calls $36, BB folds

Turn: Nine of Hearts ($127, 2 players)
Hero bets $90, BTN raises to $270, Hero raises to $563.4,

I played the hand like this basically because of his high aggression, I figured he could be bluffing or semi-bluffing hearts or something. I'm not so sure now though. Best I can do for a range is
Code:
Board: 8c Jd Th 9h
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    31.699%     26.79%    04.90%               224           41.00   { AcQs }
Hand 1:    68.301%     63.40%    04.90%               530           41.00   { AhJh, KQs, KhJh, QJs, 87s, KQo }

I think I'll post this hand.

Hand 3)
Villain is a 500 reg. 18/15/4. He 3bets 6% with is about the same as me. We get is small wars sometimes but we had no recent history when this hand went down. Bog standard hand but I just want to go over it anyway.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($1005.35)
Hero ($1107.15)
CO ($477.50)
BTN ($568.15)
SB ($502.90)
BB ($531.50)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 King of Diamonds Ace of Hearts
1 fold, Hero raises to $17.5, 3 folds, BB raises to $68,

I believe calling at this point wouldn't be bad, I can shove low flops and get him to fold and stuff. However I think 4betting is fine because I'm flipping with his tightish range
Code:
   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    50.106%     38.23%    11.88%          25529440      7931059.00   { AhKd }
Hand 1:    49.894%     38.02%    11.88%          25388298      7931059.00   { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }

and it has the added advantage of being good for metagame. I want to balance for the times I want to 4bet bluff him when we get in reraising wars.

Hero raises to $130
, BB raises to $531.5, Hero calls $401.5

Need 37.76 equity to make this call at this point which I easily have
Code:
   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    38.824%     18.14%    20.68%           6524615      7436014.00   { AhKd }
Hand 1:    61.176%     40.50%    20.68%          14561741      7436014.00   { QQ+, AKs, AKo }


Hand 4)
Villain in this hand is a hilarious 15/4.5/1 I kid you not. His attempt to steal is 10%.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($512.00)
CO ($492.50)
BTN ($492.50)
Hero ($497.50)
BB ($496.75)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 5 players) Hero is SB King of Diamonds Ace of Spades
2 folds, BTN raises to $17.5, Hero calls $15, 1 fold

I'm cool with this given how tight he is. I plan on c/r bluffing some flops. His pf button raising range is probably something like this
Code:
   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    56.428%     51.81%    04.62%         100242317      8940813.00   { AhKd }
Hand 1:    43.572%     38.95%    04.62%          75366409      8940813.00   { 66+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }


Flop: Seven of Hearts Ace of Clubs Queen of Hearts ($40, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $20, Hero calls $20

I assume he's cbetting basically his whole range on this flop. I considered check/raising but I think his raise calling range would be mega nitty and some parts of it shove on me with 50% equity putting me in a semi-tough spot.

Turn: Five of Spades ($80, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $56, Hero calls $56

At this point I'm a bit worried. I estimate I'm a bit behind his range here. I actually planned on c/f-ing the river at this point because I figured he'd check behind most of the part of his range that I'm ahead of.

River: King of Clubs ($192, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $160, Hero raises to $404, BTN calls $239
Code:


I figured I could get value out of AQ at this point but I was a shad optomistic. Should have just c/c-ed by the looks of things. Of course I could be off with the ranges and maybe he doesn't check back AJ on this river but my gut tells me he would.

Board: Ac Qh 7h 5s Kc
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    47.059%     35.29%    11.76%                 6            2.00   { AsKd }
Hand 1:    52.941%     41.18%    11.76%                 7            2.00   { AA, QQ, 77, AQs+, AQo+ }


I can't really lead either I don't think I have like 40% equity against a lead calling range I think.
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Post Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 1:57pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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lol I thought march was over yesterday. Graph updated:




+$750 RB
- $150-200 in donkaments buyins

Pretty gay month, didn't play much again and as you can see from the graph I'm like 2.5k or so below expectation. meh I'll try harder in April.


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1) Dumb river raise I made today.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($1047.80)
UTG+1 ($362.00)
Hero ($611.90)
BTN ($472.50)
SB ($489.50)
BB ($909.90)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is CO Eight of Spades Ace of Diamonds
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $5, Hero raises to $22.5, 2 folds, BB calls $17.5, UTG+1 calls $17.5

Flop: Eight of Clubs Two of Hearts Nine of Diamonds ($70, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $52, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $52

Turn: Ten of Hearts ($174, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

River: Ace of Clubs ($174, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $80, Hero raises to $537.4, UTG+1 calls $207.5

Code:
Board: 8c 2h 9d Th Ac
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    30.000%     26.67%    03.33%                 4            0.50   { Ad8s }
Hand 1:    70.000%     66.67%    03.33%                10            0.50   { 88, 22, A9s-A8s, QJs, T8s+, 98s }
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 9:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Villain is 40/7/1 and folds to cbets 44% of the time.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($664.73)
CO ($2058.04)
Hero ($510.50)
SB ($501.50)
BB ($500.00)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 5 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Hearts Nine of Hearts
UTG calls $5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $27, 2 folds, UTG calls $22

This but still I think it's ok. I need to be isolating this guy as often as possible.

Flop: Jack of Clubs Two of Spades King of Hearts ($61.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $41, UTG calls $41

Yep. He doesn't fold to cbets often but this is a pretty dry flop. I think he'll call with any J, K, OESD and gutshot.

Turn: Four of Hearts ($143.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $90, UTG calls $90

Here he probably folds all his gutshots and Jacks. I should have bet a bit bigger actually more like $110 because then I have a nicer sized bet for the river.

He folds: +$143.5
He calls:
I'm assuming we win a further $150 on the river when we hit our draws
I'm also assuming we never get raised on the turn which isn't true
0.75*(-90)=-$67.5
0.25*(143+90+150)=+$95.75
95.75-67.5= $28.25

So lets say he check/raises us 10% of the time on the turn (remember he's passive)

0EV= X*($143) + (1-X)*($28.25) + 0.1*(-$90)

Maybe I missed something up here but I think this is telling me that even if he never folds the turn then this bet is +EV. Not sure if that make s a ton of sense though.

River: Ace of Spades ($323.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

The river is a good bluff shoving card for me but thinking about it now I don't think this guy will fold a paired king once he got this far so I think my check back is good.


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guess u posted it cuz you gotta bet the riv?

I agree fwiw
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Yeah I was thinking that. What if I tell you that he was a bit stationy like 40/6/passive? I'm not really sure about the turn bet either.
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Villain is a good TAG regular 23/18/4.25 He calls 3bets 30% of the time. I don't know much about his post flop play in 3bet pots.

I think this sucks myself. I don't have a read that he will float in 3bet pots and even if I think he'll call the flop w JJ-99 and fold the turn then he's still going to have AA/KK and some queens too often for it to be a good push.

If his raising range is ~18% preflop then his RR calling range is going to be something like 99-AA, AQ+, KQs. Bad range for me to be shoving into. Of that range he's only going to be folding 99-JJ on the flop (probably) and AK (which he'll even be shoving some of the time), that's 50% of the range. So the flop cbet is probably marginal good and the turn shove is a spew.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($500.00)
UTG+1 ($505.50)
CO ($577.15)
BTN ($283.53)
SB ($217.86)
Hero ($500.00)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is BB Ace of Clubs King of Spades
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $17.5, 1 fold, BTN calls $17.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $70, UTG+1 calls $52.5, BTN folds

Flop: Four of Spades Queen of Hearts Three of Clubs ($165, 2 players)
Hero bets $115, UTG+1 calls $115

Turn: Six of Hearts ($395, 2 players)
Hero bets $315, UTG+1 calls $315
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in the non-3 barrel hand I'd probably avoid 3-barrelling (as a bluff) every card except for the ace cuz even the passive stations get all scurrrred when the A hits.
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Genitruc wrote:
in the non-3 barrel hand I'd probably avoid 3-barrelling (as a bluff) every card except for the ace cuz even the passive stations get all scurrrred when the A hits.


Yeah it would definitely put him in a shit spot alright. I think it's hard to know if he'd make the fold though.

What do you think of my turn analysis?
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