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Posted: Fri, 14 Mar 2008, 9:01am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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Been pretty breakeven the last few days so I just want to throw a few hands out here.
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He's pretty much an unknown.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($313.85)
UTG+1 ($66.60)
CO ($330.87)
Hero ($314.00)
SB ($198.00)
BB ($200.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, UTG calls $9, CO folds
Flop: ($27, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $23, UTG raises to $56, Hero calls $33
Could be a 6, could be a FD, people like to bluff paired flops. Not sure if I can fold here.
Turn: ($139, 2 players)
UTG bets $40, Hero raises to $247, UTG calls $206.85
The turn was the thing that got me really. I thought he was trying to see a cheap river with his small bet and with the size of the pot I can only really shove here. I think this hand is ok given the information I had at the time.
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This hand is from today and I played it terribly tbh. Really tilted me how bad I played. He just sat down but has been loose and active.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($110.60)
CO ($227.40)
Hero ($252.10)
SB ($288.70)
BB ($297.02)
Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BTN
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7
Flop: ($28, 3 players)
BB bets $28, 1 fold, Hero calls $28
I think this is ok, if he has a monster I have implieds on my GS and if he has nothing I can bluff the turn a good amount when he gives up.
Turn: ($84, 2 players)
BB bets $32, Hero calls $32
I can't really raise here because it's a pretty dangerous board, not sure if I'm ahead. His bet is weak though and I don't think folding is good. It's hard to know wtf he has though. I remember thinking I'll know on the river, if he leads he has it and he'll check if he doesn't.
River: ($148, 2 players)
BB bets $148, Hero calls $148
Ya I play bad. I knew I was beat and made a fishy call.
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This one is just lol. Unknown.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($230.00)
UTG+1 ($310.64)
CO ($73.05)
Hero ($196.70)
SB ($213.09)
BB ($487.35)
Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN
UTG raises to $7, UTG+1 raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $40, 2 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $24
Flop: ($90, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $18, Hero raises to $60, UTG+1 calls $42
I remember I got to this late and I didn't know wtf to do. I should just fold or raise bigger here, I just rushed in a number and the size sucked.
Turn: ($210, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $20, Hero calls $20
Outs.
River: ($250, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $30, Hero calls $30
Wtf? Flush draws missed, odds.
Overall the big mistake is the flop. I should have just made it $110 and called a shove. Gay mistake. Preflop is possibly bad too, I don't remember his stats atm.
There's a bunch of other smaller gay spots in my database that I had. I'm not playing so good at the moment I guess but in fairness theres tons of weird spots arising. Will play better in future. |
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Posted: Fri, 14 Mar 2008, 9:02am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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| Also ship the third page. |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 9:34am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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Clicked it back yo. Guy tries to be TAG, I was running him over and he had just started trying to play back. I think the fact that there is dead money pf is important here.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($574.50)
UTG+1 ($1471.52)
CO ($500.00)
Hero ($748.75)
SB ($514.50)
BB ($972.00)
[CO posted $5]
Pre-flop: ($12.5, 6 players) Hero is BTN
2 folds, CO checks, Hero raises to $22.5, 1 fold, BB calls $17.5, CO folds
Flop: ($52.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35, BB raises to $100, Hero raises to $165, BB folds
Final Pot: $417.5
Hero wins $249.5 ( won +$62 )
BB lost -$122.50
CO lost -$5.00 |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 9:54am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3027 WPP: 88
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nh
wtf made hand is he reppping anyways |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 9:55am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3027 WPP: 88
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| sux when he shoves Ac7c but whatever |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 11:33am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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Painful fold versus a loose passive station
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($629.25)
UTG+1 ($530.15)
CO ($436.15)
BTN ($395.88)
SB ($650.75)
BB ($500.00)
Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $17.5, UTG+1 calls $17.5, 4 folds
Flop: ($42.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $36, UTG+1 calls $36
Turn: ($114.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $106, UTG+1 calls $106
River: ($326.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $326.5, Hero folds
Final Pot: $979.5
UTG+1 wins $323.5 ( lost -$162.5 )
Hero lost -$159.50 |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Mar 2008, 12:03pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 885 WPP: 41
Location: Green Bay
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| ^^^ that pisses me off so much when that happens. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 1:25pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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Few big hands from 2/5 over the past 2 days:
Hnad 1)
Villain is a 50/5/1.2 fish calling station.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($257.50)
UTG+1 ($484.50)
CO ($654.85)
BTN ($549.20)
Hero ($856.85)
BB ($158.85)
Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is SB
UTG calls $5, 1 fold, CO calls $5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $25, BB calls $20, UTG calls $20, CO calls $20
Yep.
Flop: ($102.5, 4 players)
Hero bets $73, 2 folds, CO calls $73
Fine I think. Obviously I'm calling if any of the shorties push.
Turn: ($248.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $195, CO calls $195
Fine as well. I sized the bet so I could shove the river if I wanted to. His range has a ton of draws and some pairs. I'm assuming he'd raise his monsters on the flop but because he's so passive you never know.
River: ($638.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $395, CO calls $361.85
The river was where my main problem was. FD missed, 67 missed, JT got there. I'm not so sure if he'll call an AI here with A9 or worse, it's hard to tell. I don't think c/c is good because he's so passive, I'm not so confident that he would bluff his missed FD if thats what he had. c/f is tight but I feel it's the best line actually. Would love some comments on this river please?
Hand 2)
Villain is super aggressive 33/18/4.2 with an aggression frequency of 38. My agg. frequency is about 33.5 and I think I'm reasonably aggressive.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($500.00)
Hero ($616.90)
CO ($541.40)
BTN ($547.05)
SB ($480.00)
BB ($1567.54)
Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $17.5, 1 fold, BTN calls $17.5, 1 fold, BB calls $12.5
Flop: ($55, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36, BTN calls $36, BB folds
Turn: ($127, 2 players)
Hero bets $90, BTN raises to $270, Hero raises to $563.4,
I played the hand like this basically because of his high aggression, I figured he could be bluffing or semi-bluffing hearts or something. I'm not so sure now though. Best I can do for a range is
| Code: | Board: 8c Jd Th 9h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.699% 26.79% 04.90% 224 41.00 { AcQs }
Hand 1: 68.301% 63.40% 04.90% 530 41.00 { AhJh, KQs, KhJh, QJs, 87s, KQo } |
I think I'll post this hand.
Hand 3)
Villain is a 500 reg. 18/15/4. He 3bets 6% with is about the same as me. We get is small wars sometimes but we had no recent history when this hand went down. Bog standard hand but I just want to go over it anyway.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($1005.35)
Hero ($1107.15)
CO ($477.50)
BTN ($568.15)
SB ($502.90)
BB ($531.50)
Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $17.5, 3 folds, BB raises to $68,
I believe calling at this point wouldn't be bad, I can shove low flops and get him to fold and stuff. However I think 4betting is fine because I'm flipping with his tightish range
| Code: | equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.106% 38.23% 11.88% 25529440 7931059.00 { AhKd }
Hand 1: 49.894% 38.02% 11.88% 25388298 7931059.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ } |
and it has the added advantage of being good for metagame. I want to balance for the times I want to 4bet bluff him when we get in reraising wars.
Hero raises to $130, BB raises to $531.5, Hero calls $401.5
Need 37.76 equity to make this call at this point which I easily have
| Code: | equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.824% 18.14% 20.68% 6524615 7436014.00 { AhKd }
Hand 1: 61.176% 40.50% 20.68% 14561741 7436014.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo } |
Hand 4)
Villain in this hand is a hilarious 15/4.5/1 I kid you not. His attempt to steal is 10%.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($512.00)
CO ($492.50)
BTN ($492.50)
Hero ($497.50)
BB ($496.75)
Pre-flop: ($7.5, 5 players) Hero is SB
2 folds, BTN raises to $17.5, Hero calls $15, 1 fold
I'm cool with this given how tight he is. I plan on c/r bluffing some flops. His pf button raising range is probably something like this
| Code: | equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.428% 51.81% 04.62% 100242317 8940813.00 { AhKd }
Hand 1: 43.572% 38.95% 04.62% 75366409 8940813.00 { 66+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo } |
Flop: ($40, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $20, Hero calls $20
I assume he's cbetting basically his whole range on this flop. I considered check/raising but I think his raise calling range would be mega nitty and some parts of it shove on me with 50% equity putting me in a semi-tough spot.
Turn: ($80, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $56, Hero calls $56
At this point I'm a bit worried. I estimate I'm a bit behind his range here. I actually planned on c/f-ing the river at this point because I figured he'd check behind most of the part of his range that I'm ahead of.
River: ($192, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $160, Hero raises to $404, BTN calls $239
| Code: |
I figured I could get value out of AQ at this point but I was a shad optomistic. Should have just c/c-ed by the looks of things. Of course I could be off with the ranges and maybe he doesn't check back AJ on this river but my gut tells me he would.
Board: Ac Qh 7h 5s Kc
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.059% 35.29% 11.76% 6 2.00 { AsKd }
Hand 1: 52.941% 41.18% 11.76% 7 2.00 { AA, QQ, 77, AQs+, AQo+ } |
I can't really lead either I don't think I have like 40% equity against a lead calling range I think. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Mar 2008, 1:57pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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lol I thought march was over yesterday. Graph updated:
+$750 RB
- $150-200 in donkaments buyins
Pretty gay month, didn't play much again and as you can see from the graph I'm like 2.5k or so below expectation. meh I'll try harder in April. |
Last edited by Irisheyes on Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 3:01pm; edited 3 times in total
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 9:28am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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1) Dumb river raise I made today.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($1047.80)
UTG+1 ($362.00)
Hero ($611.90)
BTN ($472.50)
SB ($489.50)
BB ($909.90)
Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $5, Hero raises to $22.5, 2 folds, BB calls $17.5, UTG+1 calls $17.5
Flop: ($70, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $52, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $52
Turn: ($174, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks
River: ($174, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $80, Hero raises to $537.4, UTG+1 calls $207.5
| Code: | Board: 8c 2h 9d Th Ac
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.000% 26.67% 03.33% 4 0.50 { Ad8s }
Hand 1: 70.000% 66.67% 03.33% 10 0.50 { 88, 22, A9s-A8s, QJs, T8s+, 98s } | |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 9:33am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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Villain is 40/7/1 and folds to cbets 44% of the time.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($664.73)
CO ($2058.04)
Hero ($510.50)
SB ($501.50)
BB ($500.00)
Pre-flop: ($7.5, 5 players) Hero is BTN
UTG calls $5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $27, 2 folds, UTG calls $22
This but still I think it's ok. I need to be isolating this guy as often as possible.
Flop: ($61.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $41, UTG calls $41
Yep. He doesn't fold to cbets often but this is a pretty dry flop. I think he'll call with any J, K, OESD and gutshot.
Turn: ($143.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $90, UTG calls $90
Here he probably folds all his gutshots and Jacks. I should have bet a bit bigger actually more like $110 because then I have a nicer sized bet for the river.
He folds: +$143.5
He calls:
I'm assuming we win a further $150 on the river when we hit our draws
I'm also assuming we never get raised on the turn which isn't true
0.75*(-90)=-$67.5
0.25*(143+90+150)=+$95.75
95.75-67.5= $28.25
So lets say he check/raises us 10% of the time on the turn (remember he's passive)
0EV= X*($143) + (1-X)*($28.25) + 0.1*(-$90)
Maybe I missed something up here but I think this is telling me that even if he never folds the turn then this bet is +EV. Not sure if that make s a ton of sense though.
River: ($323.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
The river is a good bluff shoving card for me but thinking about it now I don't think this guy will fold a paired king once he got this far so I think my check back is good. |
Last edited by Irisheyes on Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 4:47am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 7:17pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3027 WPP: 88
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guess u posted it cuz you gotta bet the riv?
I agree fwiw |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 2:30am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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| Yeah I was thinking that. What if I tell you that he was a bit stationy like 40/6/passive? I'm not really sure about the turn bet either. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 3:20am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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Villain is a good TAG regular 23/18/4.25 He calls 3bets 30% of the time. I don't know much about his post flop play in 3bet pots.
I think this sucks myself. I don't have a read that he will float in 3bet pots and even if I think he'll call the flop w JJ-99 and fold the turn then he's still going to have AA/KK and some queens too often for it to be a good push.
If his raising range is ~18% preflop then his RR calling range is going to be something like 99-AA, AQ+, KQs. Bad range for me to be shoving into. Of that range he's only going to be folding 99-JJ on the flop (probably) and AK (which he'll even be shoving some of the time), that's 50% of the range. So the flop cbet is probably marginal good and the turn shove is a spew.
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($500.00)
UTG+1 ($505.50)
CO ($577.15)
BTN ($283.53)
SB ($217.86)
Hero ($500.00)
Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $17.5, 1 fold, BTN calls $17.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $70, UTG+1 calls $52.5, BTN folds
Flop: ($165, 2 players)
Hero bets $115, UTG+1 calls $115
Turn: ($395, 2 players)
Hero bets $315, UTG+1 calls $315 |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 10:26am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3027 WPP: 88
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| in the non-3 barrel hand I'd probably avoid 3-barrelling (as a bluff) every card except for the ace cuz even the passive stations get all scurrrred when the A hits. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 10:31am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3077 WPP: 68
Location: over there
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| Genitruc wrote: | | in the non-3 barrel hand I'd probably avoid 3-barrelling (as a bluff) every card except for the ace cuz even the passive stations get all scurrrred when the A hits. |
Yeah it would definitely put him in a shit spot alright. I think it's hard to know if he'd make the fold though.
What do you think of my turn analysis? |
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