only in texas can a man murder a child,and not get convicted

http://www.welt.de/english-news/article2503826/Boy-killed-when-caught-stealing-snacks.html

but hey they were breaking & entering.

what do you guys think about this?

he said he was sorry.

that's sick

The title of this thread is so out of context. A better one...

"Hey dipshit, don't break into people's houses, especially Texas where everyone owns a gun and will shoot you."

or

"Darwin, FTW"

i say we go break into his house and kill him wanna go anyone? suspenders maybe?

haha nah at the airport, flight leaves in 5 mins!

"Texas law allows homeowners to use deadly force to protect themselves and their property."

That's all fine and good under the right circumstances.

"the medical examiner testified, Anguiano was shot in the back at close range. Two mashed Twinkies and some cookies were stuffed in the pockets of his shorts."

He gets left off after shooting a kid in the back to protect his his twinkies? Your legal system may as well be run by retarded chimps.

the jury is always right

Title of this thread tilts me to no end.

Yes, leg, let's go break in, you first.

poopyhead try to steal my twinkies and see what happens

for real, though, if somebody breaks into my home it's going to be shoot first and ask questions later. it's my house, I didn't invite you in, normally people don't break into other people's homes with good intentions (or to only steal twinkies), etc, etc.

now, shooting the kid in the back is horrible but shit happens in the heat of the moment when you break into somebody's house

"Then, the medical examiner testified, Anguiano was shot in the back at close range"

wow must be true, lets kill this guy too

Wow, guy should be in jail.

Fucked up, manslaughter at least imo. So the law says you can defend your home, but when did it become ok to abandon good judgement and reasonable common sense? He wasn't even home when they broke in so its not like he was totally caught off guard at home, he grabbed his shotgun looking for trouble and was probably itching to shoot some punks.

Here is where I stand, guy wakes up hears people in his house runs out with a gun sees a bunch of shadows and shoots, well that is probably ok (but it coulda been a surprise part you never know)

Guy runs out sees it is kids beats them up a bit then shoots one in the back when he probably (just my guess) tries to run away. Deserves to go to jail.

this shit is real fucked up

I still stand by my original comments, but this is fucked up:

No you should not have that right. What good does it do? How often does someone who breaks into your house want more than your goods. They are not a threat to your life.
It's vigilantism. If the other guy isn't armed, why would you shoot him? The moment you pull your gun is when your life is in danger - that's when the us-or-them mentality kicks in, and you might just be on the short end. Before that the guys would be happy enough to get the fuck out as quickly as possible.

Bottom line is: If you fear for your life if you see a 13 year old with chocolate stained fingers in your trailer, guess what. You deserve to die. Don't fight it.

What do you guys think of the Joe Horn case? He killed 2 burglars while on the phone with the 911 dispatcher. It doesn't seem to have been any danger to his life, but do you still think it's fine?

The phone call:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLtKCC7z0yc

A group of four 13-year-old kids could easily injure or kill an old man. I don't know why people are acting like the old man wasn't in danger.

Well, I wasn't implying you were pro murder or anything. In general I'm all for protecting one's self,family and property. I have a serious problem with using excesive force when that force isn't neceserry, which appears to be the case here(granted as lukie's pointed out this is only one side of the story).

I'd be freaked out too if I came home and there were people in my house, but if I pulled a gun on them and said get the fuck out and called the cops, at least I wouldn't be a murderer, which it sounds like this guy is.

Gun control I think is a complete waste of time and effort, the question should be "what the poop were four teenage boys doing breaking into a house for twinkies in the first place?"

Also, not sure if this is relevant enough or not, but IIRC from reading the article, the kid that got killed was 13. The four were between the ages of 11-15. I remember in high school, there were some guys at 15 north of 200 lbs that could *single-handedly* put a hurting on just about any 62 yr old out there, but I digress.

Something else I just thought of, all 4 of them were in the process of committing felonies (whether it be burglary, criminal trespassing, whatever). If this had happened in Florida, the 3 of them could have been charged with felony murder, which carries a mandatory life in prison sentence. Not sure how the fact that they were minors would play into it, but they'd probably escape that. Just something to consider (not that I'm at all suggesting these kids deserve life in prison).

WTF MCATDOG LUKIE SO MANY CHILD MURDERERS GEEZ

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i don't really have a problem with this. we have the right to protect our homes and should use it. occasionally something like this happens and everyone gets their panties in a twist, but if we start to make laws that you can only protect your home under very specific circumstances the whole thing just gets totally out of whack. bottom line, if someone is breaking into your home, you have the right to shoot. yeah, its sad that a kid was killed, but shit happens. the kids could have been there to kill him, the old man had no way of knowing.

the media reports a story like this every time it happens, but rarely, if ever reports the times when guns save someones life or were used properly.

*Last edited by Trashcona on Mon, 29 Sep 2008, 4:02pm; edited 1 time in total*

To get back to what I was saying with regards to excessive force, there is another link on that news site here: http://www.welt.de/english-news/article2275742/Greyhound-bus-killer-beheads-victim-and-then-eats-flesh.html

This is a situation were someone and I mean anyone should have pulled a gun and shot the poopyhead, ducy?

Like the DA said in the Texas case, it wasn't about the man protecting his home, it was about him using excessive force when it wasn't needed.

I think UG totally missed my point. I agree with you 100% that if you or your family is in danger then you should be able to use whatever means necessary to protect them(I'm a homeowner and have a wife, son and dog aswell). But my point was, in this case, it totally doesn't seem like his life was ever in danger(based on what we heard in this story). That's the problem I have with this.

yeah i think the problem lies in the story, we don't really know what went down. if he's just a crazy mother poopyhead who killed the kid when he didn't have to then it's sick that he walked away. i don't think anyone disagrees with that.

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