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Posted: Mon, 26 Nov 2007, 2:26pm Post subject: My first omaha hand!! |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 3370
WPP: 71
Location: over there
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Hi, I'm only just starting to try and learn Omaha so I played a little bit today since holdem was going a bit shit for me.
Anyway, the hand: I called preflop because I figure I have decent implied odds against the raiser with my double paired hand. Does the danger of facing a higher set make this a bad move? Also on the flop should I be trying to get AI or should I be more afraid of the overfull? How would you play AKxx in the same spot?
PL $0.50/$1 Omaha - Monday, November 26, 15:53:46 GMT 2007
Table Stratus 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of active players : 8
Seat 1: konfio ( $107.40 )
Seat 2: Halden Gutt ( $143.85 )
Seat 3: Lecru ( $165.20 )
Seat 4: iBUSTdaNUTS ( $113 )
Seat 5: Chargeback ( $0 )
Seat 6: UncleBak ( $306.60 )
Seat 7: ZXWQMQZXW ( $71.50 )
Seat 8: VUDOMAGIC ( $55.55 )
Seat 9: Thrappers ( $186.92 )
Lecru posts small blind [$0.50]
iBUSTdaNUTS posts big blind [$1]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to iBUSTdaNUTS [ 4 , 5 , 4, 5 ]
UncleBak raises to [$3.50]
ZXWQMQZXW folds
VUDOMAGIC calls [$3.50]
Thrappers calls [$3.50]
konfio folds
Halden Gutt folds
Lecru folds
iBUSTdaNUTS calls [$2.50]
** Dealing Flop ** [ A, 5 , A ]
iBUSTdaNUTS bets [$14.50]
UncleBak folds
VUDOMAGIC goes all-in
VUDOMAGIC raises to [$52.05]
Thrappers calls [$52.05]
iBUSTdaNUTS goes all-in
iBUSTdaNUTS raises to [$109.50]
(Other villain has $57 left) |
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Posted: Mon, 26 Nov 2007, 2:40pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 04 Jul 2006
Posts: 4858
WPP: 82
Location: Pwnsylvania
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I think the first thing you should learn playing omaha is that underfulls/bottom-set suck so bad, it's why PF your hand is much weaker than it appears, because when you flop a hand you want to felt you will never be a big favorite.
As played I don't see how you cannot get all the money in, just try and hold against a lot of outs. |
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Posted: Mon, 26 Nov 2007, 5:49pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 1001
WPP: 198
Location: Melbourne
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Calling pre flop is fine. It's not a great hand but certainly good enough
This is just a tough decision. If stacks were deeper maybe fold. If you have a read on an opponent being particularly solid you can fold. In a vacuum, gambool. It's not impossible to be up against a flush draw and a 2345 or something.
pokenum -o ad ks qs 6s - ah qd js 9c - 4c 5d 4d 5h -- ac as 5s
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing As 5s Ac
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Qs 6s Ad 171 25.68 432 64.86 63 9.46 0.304
Js 9c Qd Ah 165 24.77 438 65.77 63 9.46 0.295
4c 5d 4d 5h 267 40.09 399 59.91 0 0.00 0.401
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959019
pokenum -o ad ks td 6s - ah qd js 9c - 4c 5d 4d 5h -- ac as 5s
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing As 5s Ac
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks 6s Ad Td 234 35.14 432 64.86 0 0.00 0.351
Js 9c Qd Ah 243 36.49 423 63.51 0 0.00 0.365
4c 5d 4d 5h 189 28.38 477 71.62 0 0.00 0.284 |
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Posted: Mon, 26 Nov 2007, 6:03pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
Posts: 1478
WPP: 79
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Yeah it's pretty save to assume that they each have an ace and 5 or 6 cards to come between them both that beat us. Sure one of them *could* have AA or A5, given that we have 2 5's and there's 2 aces on board, this is somewhat unlikely.
I can't see folding given our odds. |
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Posted: Mon, 26 Nov 2007, 6:06pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 04 Jul 2006
Posts: 4858
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Location: Pwnsylvania
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| salsa4ever wrote: | | Calling pre flop is fine. It's not a great hand but certainly good enough |
I think this hold true if you understand all of this:
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This is just a tough decision. If stacks were deeper maybe fold. If you have a read on an opponent being particularly solid you can fold. In a vacuum, gambool. It's not impossible to be up against a flush draw and a 2345 or something.
pokenum -o ad ks qs 6s - ah qd js 9c - 4c 5d 4d 5h -- ac as 5s
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing As 5s Ac
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Qs 6s Ad 171 25.68 432 64.86 63 9.46 0.304
Js 9c Qd Ah 165 24.77 438 65.77 63 9.46 0.295
4c 5d 4d 5h 267 40.09 399 59.91 0 0.00 0.401
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3959019
pokenum -o ad ks td 6s - ah qd js 9c - 4c 5d 4d 5h -- ac as 5s
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing As 5s Ac
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks 6s Ad Td 234 35.14 432 64.86 0 0.00 0.351
Js 9c Qd Ah 243 36.49 423 63.51 0 0.00 0.365
4c 5d 4d 5h 189 28.38 477 71.62 0 0.00 0.284 | |
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