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Posted: Wed, 28 Jun 2006, 5:39pm Post subject: Limping AA? |
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3-of-a-Kind

Joined: 02 Dec 2005
Posts: 95 WPP: 151
Location: Statesboro, GA
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I've run into this twice in the last 24 hours: once with a passively played AA from a smallstack versus my JJ; just now with everyone limping at a table (2nd blind level), I raise to clear out the limpers, get reraised (of course I just reread a hand history like this in HOH today and figure bluff), reraise AI with AJ, and get knocked out.
I know, stupid in both cases. But I never saw either one coming. Is this something to look out for, or is this just a weak way to play AA? |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Jun 2006, 5:48pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush

Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 8000 WPP: 134
Location: Sydney
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Generally speaking it is a terrible way to play AA. Perhaps the only time I would limp AA is heads up against a very aggressive opponent who almost never checks his BB.
I wish the poker gods would put a curse on everybody who limps their AA that they get cracked every time by a BB special.
BTW, although it's hard to say without the exact HH, your first hand doesn't sound all that bad. On your second, I would probably fold to the limp/re-raise but recently I've seen players pull this trick with all sorts of shit so I'm less inclined to believe it. That said, I don't think AJ is nearly strong enough of a hand, particularly on level 2, with which to call an AI. |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Jun 2006, 9:20pm Post subject: |
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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| never limp AA, it's terrible. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Jun 2006, 10:20am Post subject: aa |
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Straight

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Posts: 203 WPP: 93
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I feel that limping with aces gets you in more trouble then its worth, everytime i lip utg thinking to reraise preflop i just end up with an 8 handed flop that I wont even bet on. Id say slowplaying AA in any sense is bad, that being said you got to be wary of a prelop limp/reraise from the EP, especially at higher limits.
Yeah id say that you overplayed that aj and he played those aces crappy. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Jun 2006, 12:03pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 3559 WPP: 61
Location: TAGfishery
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| taipan168 wrote: | | I wish the poker gods would put a curse on everybody who limps their AA that they get cracked every time by a BB special. |
i think i have this curse. but ive stopped limping AA, so i hope it goes away soon. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Jun 2006, 12:21pm Post subject: |
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Two Pair

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| People who limp aces make me wish I could reach through the screen and fucking kill them. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Jun 2006, 1:13pm Post subject: |
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Full House

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| It's better to limp AA in cash games. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Jun 2006, 1:20pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 02 May 2006
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| spyderracing wrote: | | People who limp aces make me wish I could reach through the screen and fucking kill them. |
some serious aggression dude.
take a deep breath, count to 10, and pull the cork from your ass. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Jun 2006, 1:37pm Post subject: aa |
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Straight

Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 203 WPP: 93
Location: bronx new york
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| How do you figure its better to limp with aces in a cash game (or correct at all) |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Jun 2006, 1:42pm Post subject: |
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EAT BUGS

Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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| limping aces is only terrible when you dont have a reason for it |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Jun 2006, 1:46pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

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It is correct to limp aces in any game where you will always steal the blinds if you raise. AA (and maybe KK) are the only hands in hold 'em worth more than the blinds, generally.
Since it's never really true that you "always" steal sucessfully - there is just some number (85%?) where you really should just limp.
However, I think that this is only true if you are limping things OTHER than aces!
Also, see "mixing it up".
Since you shouldn't be limping much, if ever, in an SNG, you could argue that you should never limp aces. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 4:06am Post subject: |
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Two Pair

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Last time someone limped me with Aces we were in a SnG, we were 5 handed and blinds were 100-200 and I only had 750 left, but I was patience and waited for a double up or trible up to survive, we were 5 left... He limps on the button with AA, SB calls and I check... Flop comes Q4J , I got Q4 (would have folded if he made just a one up bet to me) , SB checks , hmm I want to get paid here so I make a bet of 200, Button now makes it 800, SB folds and I call... I won the hand and now got about 1500 chips....
And ofcourse the person with AA is swearing in the chat after that saying BS and all the rigged pokersites talk...
Whats his problem? he limps with AA and gives me the chance to hit a flop for free and I did...
What can we learn by this? Its horrible play to limp with AA in situations like this....
The only time I limped with AA was a $50+4 SnG I was playing, we were 4 ppl left, 3 of us were even in chips and the person on my left was chipleader with almost double of my stack, everytime I tried to limp his blinds he had something in his mind that said "no limping allowed here" he either raised me 3xbb or came over the top of me, and he had seen me fold everytime... I then got my AA and everybody folds and I now limped his blinds because of his previous game, and guess what he did, he came over the top of me and I called, he showed 10-7 offsuit and I cracked him....
He ofcourse also sweared in the chat saying, im so unlucky and only a horrible player limps with Aces, one of the other players had notised what I did and said it was genious played of me.... lol |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 6:13am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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Limping aces can be fine, and the best evidence for it is the anger and loathing expressed by several people on this thread - don't you WANT to make your opponents feel this way?
Gabe hits the nail on the head, though - the conditions need to be right for limping aces. If you just do it arbitrarily then you deserve to have it come back and hit you in the face. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 1:24pm Post subject: |
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Two Pair

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| If you limp aces you got no reads on the other player, the scary thing about limping is always that you have no idea of how strong the big blind is, the other limpers can you say a little about, they proberly dont limp 7-2 late in a tourney, and if the flop comes 10-7-2 and the big blind goes all in with a stack as big as youre youre in trouble because you have no idea of what he might have and even if he raises you, you dont feel good before you have seen the river card... |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 7:50pm Post subject: Re: Limping AA? |
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High Card

Joined: 30 Jun 2006
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| dzeanah wrote: | I've run into this twice in the last 24 hours: once with a passively played AA from a smallstack versus my JJ; just now with everyone limping at a table (2nd blind level), I raise to clear out the limpers, get reraised (of course I just reread a hand history like this in HOH today and figure bluff), reraise AI with AJ, and get knocked out.
I know, stupid in both cases. But I never saw either one coming. Is this something to look out for, or is this just a weak way to play AA? |
Just curious, what buy-in? |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 8:06pm Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind

Joined: 02 Dec 2005
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| $10 NL ring and a $5.50 SnG, which might be the explanation. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 10:09pm Post subject: |
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Season III

Joined: 19 Aug 2005
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| Limping AA is fine in the right situation as long as you can get away from it after the flop. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 10:18pm Post subject: |
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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| if you have a wide raising range then its almost counter-intuitive to limp big hands, since the whole reason you raise a lot of hand is to disguise when you have big hands. |
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