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Muzzard
Post Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 6:49pm    Post subject: Limped pot, middle set on monotone Reply with quote
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Relative unknowns, meh?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($22.15)
UTG 1 ($54.10)
MP1 ($25.00)
Hero ($49.75)
MP3 ($52.15)
CO ($91.40)
BTN ($49.25)
SB ($51.55)
BB ($85.10)
[MP1 posted $0.5]

Pre-flop: ($1.25, 9 players) Hero is MP2 Three of Clubs Three of Diamonds
2 folds, MP1 checks, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: Two of Spades Ace of Spades Three of Spades ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero raises to $7.75, SB folds, BB calls $5.75, MP1 goes all-in $24.50, $16.75 to Hero ($41.5)?
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Fnord
Post Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 7:04pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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opps
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jimmy44
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Jul 2008, 7:26am    Post subject: Re: Limped pot, middle set on monotone Reply with quote
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Muzzard wrote:
Relative unknowns, meh?

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($22.15)
UTG 1 ($54.10)
MP1 ($25.00)
Hero ($49.75)
MP3 ($52.15)
CO ($91.40)
BTN ($49.25)
SB ($51.55)
BB ($85.10)
[MP1 posted $0.5]

Pre-flop: ($1.25, 9 players) Hero is MP2 Three of Clubs Three of Diamonds
2 folds, MP1 checks, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: Two of Spades Ace of Spades Three of Spades ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero raises to $7.75, SB folds, BB calls $5.75, MP1 goes all-in $24.50, $16.75 to Hero ($41.5)?

MP1 posts: so he's not that good!
BB: might have Ksx/set/flush
Let's first forget about BB (we'll examine it later).
Against only MP1: you'll need to call about $15 to a $44.5 pot. So that's about 3-1 where you need to have 25% of equity. Even if he has the flush you have at least 30% vs his flush.
Including BB: However, here we need to push to remove odds from BB (in the case he has Ksx). BB will not have AA often here. So in terms of sets he can only reasonably have 22 here. So it's either 22/flush/Kxs.
The odds to hit flush on the FLOP are around 118 - 1. So I put his range much more on 22 or Ksx on which our equity is huge! Even if BB has the flush we would be putting $41.5 to win $86 ($44.5 + $41.5), which is about 2.1 - 1 = about 31-2%
Conclusion: Without reads, I push over MP1 push.
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Fnord
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Jul 2008, 8:09am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hero rarely has the best hand here. Kind of hard to just flat the flop though. Opps.
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jimmy44
Post Posted: Wed, 02 Jul 2008, 3:44am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
Hero rarely has the best hand here. Kind of hard to just flat the flop though. Opps.

I agree, but with the money in the pot and our 30% equity I don't think we can fold here.
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Muzzard
Post Posted: Wed, 02 Jul 2008, 4:09am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I shoved coz that's what i do with a set on a monotone, I get called and boat up. They both mucked a flush.
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Keilah
Post Posted: Thu, 03 Jul 2008, 12:15am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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thats awesome^^ FH > Flush > Flush
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