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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 2:32am Post subject: Leggo or CR?
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2009
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 1656
WPP: 64
Location: bluffing scare cards
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I want to get a video subscription but I'm only going to go with 1 for now.
Vote and Discuss...
(Please only vote if you have a video subscription with one or both of these 2 sites) |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 2:46am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 4135
WPP: 63
Location: slow motion
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| i voted CR but thats all i have. i would like to know about leggo as well. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 3:15am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 1370
WPP: 234
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 4:01am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 1594
WPP: 117
Location: getting my swell on
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| cr has so many of the most respected internet pros in the world so... |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 4:25am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 7005
WPP: 71
Location: Pwnsylvania
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yea but their vids don't relay great messages imo
from what I've seen from deucescracked and leggo I am more impressed with their content/strat videos than I was with CR's. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 4:59am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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| i made a guest pro video for leggo that should be up soon... |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 5:02am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 1370
WPP: 234
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | yea but their vids don't relay great messages imo
from what I've seen from deucescracked and leggo I am more impressed with their content/strat videos than I was with CR's. |
What have you seen from deuces that was good? |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 5:03am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 1370
WPP: 234
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| gabe wrote: | | i made a guest pro video for leggo that should be up soon... |
Which means you'll eventually become part of the TEAMMM since all guest pros eventually have become part of the team. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 5:11am Post subject:
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Life Donk
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 1710
WPP: 93
Location: running with scissors
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| wufwugy wrote: | | What have you seen from deuces that was good? | The whole Unconventional Wisdom series was pretty eyeopening to me (though I'm misapplying the stuff - need to study those more).
krantz vs whitelime seems to have good stuff in it though I've only watched a few.
But then again CR have CTS. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 12:17pm Post subject:
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{NSFW - nipple}
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 2186
WPP: 107
Location: The Loser's Lounge
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| I bought a Leggo subscription the other day and I think they're awesome. Not that I've seen the others. But from what I've seen, Leggo applies a lot more to the short handed cash players. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 1:12pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 7005
WPP: 71
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| wufwugy wrote: | | bigspenda73 wrote: | yea but their vids don't relay great messages imo
from what I've seen from deucescracked and leggo I am more impressed with their content/strat videos than I was with CR's. |
What have you seen from deuces that was good? |
just watched the 8-9 pt. series from fsxleduck and dj sensei, I liked it for myself because I've struggled to become more aggro and they hit on that a lot. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 1:59pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 2010
WPP: 55
Location: Dizzy
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 2:07pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 915
WPP: 40
Location: Green Bay
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yeah cts makes CR so much better.
also when these new videos they were making out at townsends house with like 2 of them talking together start coming out that should help to, im expecting them to be really good. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 2:46pm Post subject:
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2009
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 1656
WPP: 64
Location: bluffing scare cards
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how often does cts do a new video though? From what I understand the top guys at leggo put out more videos faster.
Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 3:37pm Post subject:
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{NSFW - nipple}
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 2186
WPP: 107
Location: The Loser's Lounge
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| sauce123 wrote: | | cts means a lot |
You just want everyone to see you own him in that one video. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 3:41pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
Posts: 2425
WPP: 138
Location: My ice is polarized
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 4:57pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 1370
WPP: 234
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| Doesn't matter which one is better. If you get one and watch just five of their best videos and still can't pwn 1/2 you're beyond help. And once you're pwning 1/2 you can purchase all the subscrips you want. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 5:34pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6593
WPP: 74
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| Leggo has much more quantity of quality but CR has the top videos from the sickest CTS. Tough choice. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 6:09pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Posts: 3253
WPP: 178
Location: at the pool
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I had a CR membership a long time ago but I cancled it b/c the videos didn't do anything for me.
A while back I watched one of the sample leggo vids, I think from MYNAMEIZGREG, and I thought it was hands-down better (education-wise) than any of the stuff CR had put out. If I got one or the other, it would probably be leggo. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 7:51pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 339
WPP: 77
Location: Dublin
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| Triptanes wrote: | | that was aba! |
which video was it? |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Mar 2008, 8:08pm Post subject:
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Eats babies
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 3884
WPP: 109
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| I just canceled CR this month. I am moving to leggo for now. The Duecescracked vids so far are great too, they just dont have alot right now. |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Mar 2008, 12:53am Post subject:
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2009
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 1656
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Location: bluffing scare cards
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I'm thinking I'm going to go with leggo first and when I have more money I'll get a card runners membership. We'll c how it goes.
Thanks guys. |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Mar 2008, 1:47am Post subject:
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2009
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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I see on the sign up sheet for leggo that there is an option for who referred you? Do you get a Bonus or something for referring somebody?
First one to post with their leggo sn and Ill say you referred me. |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Mar 2008, 2:49am Post subject:
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{NSFW - nipple}
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 2186
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Location: The Loser's Lounge
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| meeloche wrote: | I see on the sign up sheet for leggo that there is an option for who referred you? Do you get a Bonus or something for referring somebody?
First one to post with their leggo sn and Ill say you referred me. |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Mar 2008, 2:20pm Post subject:
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2009
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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Location: bluffing scare cards
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| What do you get for referring ppl? |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Mar 2008, 4:03pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 832
WPP: 72
Location: On the grind
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Im happy with CR, i watched a samplevideo of MYNAMEISGREZ and his video was top notch, so i dont think u can go wrong with either choosing CR or leggo.
Altough, CR has CTS!! |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Mar 2008, 5:33pm Post subject:
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{NSFW - nipple}
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
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Location: The Loser's Lounge
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| meeloche wrote: | | What do you get for referring ppl? |
No clue, I think they extend your membership by a month |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Mar 2008, 6:55am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 832
WPP: 72
Location: On the grind
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| Galapogos wrote: | | meeloche wrote: | | What do you get for referring ppl? |
No clue, I think they extend your membership by a month |
u get points for it where u can get things from shop with |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 10:25pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 999
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Location: New Zealand
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Does anyone want to give their updated input into this one?
I have been a Cardrunners member for a year but given that I'm hardly playing I feel like a change of scenery would do me good. Off all the pros playing mid stakes I also only ever really liked Fabian's videos (although StaceysMom's videos aren't bad either). CTS' videos are great though.
So Meeloche, Galapogos etc. What did you guys think about Leggo? I personally am more drawn to Deucescracked but I can easily be convinced. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 10:36pm Post subject:
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Eats babies
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 3884
WPP: 109
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Leggo poker for reasons soon to be evident.
And they are just that much better than CR |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 10:42pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 384
WPP: 89
Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
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I have had CR for a while and basically I can't even sit through a video there. I think Deuces Cracked offers more information and offer a much more professional product. They actually plan series out and know what they are going to talk about going into videos. Not like CR where they record random sessions and decide later what they talked about.
Also the instructors are much more likable. I go on tilt listening to BT or GP talk. Jesus I just need to cancel my CR membership.
As for CTS, he makes a video like every other month. It's cheaper just to pay to download his videos individually. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 10:45pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 384
WPP: 89
Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
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| silu73 wrote: |
So Meeloche, Galapogos etc. What did you guys think about Leggo? I personally am more drawn to Deucescracked but I can easily be convinced. |
DC doesn't have a registration fee and the first month is free. Just sign up I promise you will love it. Especially coming from CR. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 11:06pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 1594
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Location: getting my swell on
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| i was going to join CR, but im glad i didn't. i hope they lose many more potential customers due to this. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 11:11pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 13 Oct 2005
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Location: Here and There
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i've never been to any of these.
links please |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 11:23pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 384
WPP: 89
Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
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| will641 wrote: | | i was going to join CR, but im glad i didn't. i hope they lose many more potential customers due to this. |
I don't know what you and Jyms are referring to, but be glad you saved your money. CR is awful imo. They have a million different instructors who make a video like once a month at best.
Sign up for a month of DC. There is nothing to lose and you will love it. As soon as I cancel cr I plan on giving leggo a shot, I like the reviews I am hearing. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 11:30pm Post subject:
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Eats babies
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| wills talking about hte past, I'm talking the future. Soon. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 11:31pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Location: On Tony Romo's nuts
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| jyms wrote: | | wills talking about hte past, I'm talking the future. Soon. |
C'mon with it please. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 11:33pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 May 2006
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Location: New Zealand
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Yeah I have only ever been a CR member but I don't feel that enthusiastic anymore. Also I can hardly watch a whole video anymore.
I saw the free 7-day trial at DC. Will try that and download as many videos as possible (no DRM sounds appealing).
Leggo seems to have many HU videos and I'm not so much into them. Shall I really wait Jim? Or is it just because of gayb's upcoming guest video? |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 11:45pm Post subject:
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Eats babies
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
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GAbe is a great reason, but he's not "the" reason.
Leggo is just going to be a better site over all in the future for regular grinders |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 11:55pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
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Location: Gainesville
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A lot of cardrunners videos are very very good. CTS, Raptor, and Jman's 1 vid are all amazing. aba and GP put out good videos sometimes. A lot of others just aren't that great but solid. I improved my MTT shitloads through CR as well.
Leggopoker I like but there are just not enough videos. MNIG, Bobbo, aejones, Straate, Seabeast, Chewy all make very good mid/high stakes videos.
I'm probably going to sign up for DC for Krantz, FWF and others. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 12:35am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 May 2006
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Location: New Zealand
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| Well Jim. You kind of let the cat out of the bag here |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 12:39am Post subject:
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Eats babies
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
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| silu73 wrote: | | Well Jim. You kind of let the cat out of the bag here | What cat? There is no reason. I just know that leggo will be the better site. FWIW I am getting both sites this week anyway. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 12:40am Post subject:
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Strike 1
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| CARD RUNNERS SUPPORTS RAPTOR517 WHO IS THE ENEMEY OF nutsinho THE FTR HERO. A VOTE FOR CARD RUNNEMS IS A VOTE A SATAN. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 12:42am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 May 2006
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| jyms wrote: | | silu73 wrote: | | Well Jim. You kind of let the cat out of the bag here | What cat? There is no reason. I just know that leggo will be the better site. FWIW I am getting both sites this week anyway. |
I was hoping for a "LeggoPoker buys Grinderschool for X Million" headline or something like it.
Do you have a specific reason why Leggo will be better? If yes I can hold off signing up with DC. If its sensitive info or facts you can't disclose my PM Inbox is pretty good with secrets. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 12:54am Post subject:
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Eats babies
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| I am no longer affiliated with Grinderschool. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 1:57am Post subject:
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Joined: 11 Jun 2005
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Location: The Loser's Lounge
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I recommend Leggo. Lots of good vids for the small/mid stakes grinders. Plus they're bringing in a couple new pros in the near future. Mind you I've never seen a DC video. Just expressing my satisfaction with Leggo's content.
Be cool and buy both. |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037
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Location: Not Giving In
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| DC is really good as well as Leggo. I think Leggo will take over the lead very soon though. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 3:29am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
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all right let me lay it down
CR: sucks. handful of great players, but they aint that great at making vids. the one that is great is cts, and he still isnt the best.
DC: great, but not infallible. some of the vids arent really that good, but some are great. fslexcduck is probably the best coach on the site. ive tried to watch krantz and whitelime but just cant get into it. i can imagine those guys being amazing coaches, but there's a little lacking in the vids. i say a little because there's still a ton of great info in them. i think a problem is it seems they dont explain the little details, only bigger things. some of us need little details as well. a thing about DC that other sites dont have is that they cover certain topics and formats well. like spenda i believe was saying earlier, the joint series from duck and sensei is aaaaaaaawesome.
LP: best and its not even close to close. aejones is probably the best vid maker on the planet. he loves to talk and explain shit and is sick good. bobbofitos is number two. he also loves to talk and explain shit and has a super good theoretical understanding. i dont like saying hes any worse than aejones tho so i guess ill retract that. i guess my issue is that it may be a wee bit easier to learn from jones than from fitos, even though its not hard from fitos. seabeast is mega sick too. the guy 3bets like every other hand and shoves every other 3bet pot, and he thinks 2/4 is ridiculously soft.
the thing about LP is that they have a higher standard than all other sites. every single producer is fervently enthusiastic and informative about their explanations. they try to keep dead space away, and illustrate their thought process in every situation in every way.
stoxpoker: have not seen them, but want to because leatherass is the greatest poker player who has ever lived and again its not even close to close
oh and when the fuck is g-p vid coming? i been waitin and waitin
also sauce signing with lp would be sicknesssss. see this is what i need to do. i need to get sick good, like so good that i sit at 10knl all day and dominate takers because then i could make my own training site and since i can be more thorough in my explanations than anybody who has ever lived i would make cajillions |
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Full House
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stoxpoker: have not seen them, but want to because leatherass is the greatest poker player who has ever lived and again its not even close to close |
qfomgawesomenesss
seriously, give leatherass ten mil and tell him to annihilate 10knl hu and he'll do it within months. there will never be a player as driven as him and who enjoys the game as much. there will never be a better player.
you heard it here first |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1892
WPP: 109
Location: surfing in a room
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| Ive bought a leggo subscription a while ago and suddenly stopped watching CR vids. High quality stuff and Im so excited about gabes vid.... |
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