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iopq
Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 5:03am    Post subject: June Giraffes Reply with quote
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You guys still have a few days to grind, but I'm done for the month, taking a breather and coming back next month.

I played a nit HU at a 6m table because he was not that good, so ship the red line:



some of it heads up, most 6m
total for RB should probably be close to $250 if you include the fact that I cleared part of a Bonus on stars
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 6:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm done for the month, gotta prep for my euro trip, leaving weds and it's gonna be sick.


This month has been really frustrating, started off well again but ran into some gay variance in my last 15k which has obv led to some spewage on my part, still my best month ever so I can't complain. Nearly all 2/4, maybe 5k hands of 1/2.






+ $1,025 in rb = $14,700.
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 9:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 3:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The grind is on...

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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 4:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Lowest hand volume in months, but that's ok, was in Vegas for 9 days.

Vegas: + 1.6k in cash
- $550 venetian tourney
- $1.5k in WSOP event

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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 4:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pretty much broke even but I'm happy with that considering I was like -$5k in vegas and played 7000 hands online.
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 6:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Didn't plan on playing today but I did and won almost 3k, so I kinda have to repost, ma bad.






+ $1075 in rb = $17,580.
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dev
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 7:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Lowest vol month uhmm, ever. I played a lot live.

So... a small loss on cake and a bit of RB = $648.29 online, a couple more if you count the mid year iron man Bonus.

Live... house games, bar games, a partners LHE and O8/b tourney, 1/2 at the woods and the sun = $4976

Fuck it! We'll do it live!
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 7:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Things were going great until half way through when everyone else started getting dealt the nuts every hand.

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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 7:59pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ah man the redline in the second half of that graph makes me sad.
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 8:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ewww dev. You should have stopped June a couple hours earlier Sad.

Irisheyes, you think you just ran into big hands alot last 15k hands or did you change your game (or did people adjust to you)?
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 8:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Mine:


Crappy start, bunch of 50nl on Party in the middle, then back on track at 100nl at the end. Even though I played like double the hands for half the profit of last month, this makes the 3rd month running I've earnt +$1k so I'm really really happy. 200nl soon!
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 8:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That was a $350 below EV SS session for my last day of iron man. The session was 20 minutes long.
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 8:52pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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bjsaust wrote:
Ewww dev. You should have stopped June a couple hours earlier Sad.

Irisheyes, you think you just ran into big hands alot last 15k hands or did you change your game (or did people adjust to you)?


I think I actually ran red-line good in the first half of the graph and red-line bad in the second half. My red line usually sinks anyway. The red-line bad bit was really bad though, it just felt like every hand the most passive guy on each table would minraise me on the turn and I'd have to fold or the guy's with the 5% 3bet stat would take turns to 3bet me every second hand. I don't think it was them adjusting or anything (I've played over 300k hands at this site) it was just running bad.
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 9:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Too many vacations/days off. It'll be a miracle if I can play more than 20,000 hands in any one of the summer months.



~$4500 total
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 9:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Stopped playing about 10 days ago... only played a session today.
It started with -10BI in all-in EV in 5k hands, and then tilt, no heater to pull me out, loosing confidence, dropping down...

April sucked, May was massive heaterments, June sucked even more than April, so July will be 5 figs imo.
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 10:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
{NSFW - nipple}
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3rd losing month in a row after only having 2 previously in my 4 year long career. Bankroll is depleting quickly. Honestly getting pretty scared. Hating life. Etc.

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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 12:48am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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27k hands, +1050 at 25 and 50NL. first real month of poker in 2009.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 5:10am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Worst month of poker ever, down about $1500 overall, without bonuses probably 2k. Only $600 under EV so I can't even use that to make myself feel better.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 5:17am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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FT full ring
-$685 at the tables, B/E after Rakeback etc. But i now know how to play a little looser.

Party 6-max
was doing great in the 25nl-100nl trip until i tried 12-tabling 100nl when tired.
+550 at the tables, + $400 in promos, accrued about $300 in Bonus points if i want to cash them in now (but i don't)

overall ran and played kinda bad.

so about $1k up for the month. Yuck.


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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 5:21am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Galapogos wrote:
3rd losing month in a row after only having 2 previously in my 4 year long career. Bankroll is depleting quickly. Honestly getting pretty scared. Hating life. Etc.


I know right? It's like, how the fuck do they always have it?

Not trying to compare your downswing to mine but fuck poker right now
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iopq
Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 5:50am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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daven wrote:
i tried 12-tabling 100nl
don't do that, wtf I can't even handle 6 tables sometimes when I'm not focused and rush my decisions and I've been playing 6m longer than you have (by a month? lol)
daven wrote:
when tired.
epic fail...
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 7:28am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Put in the lowest volume of hands since i started playing 1.5 years ago.




+ 600~ from party fish tables
+800~ from live
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 9:30am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I did my best to ruin the month by moving back to $100NL and proceeded to drop 8BI's in a runbad, tilt inducing, what the poop why me not again session. Lost the whole months work and got it back in two sessions.


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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 1:28pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
11 OF DIAMONDS
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~$2838

i play too much poker, probably won't get as many hands in next month. Wink
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 3:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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iopq wrote:
daven wrote:
i tried 12-tabling 100nl
don't do that, wtf I can't even handle 6 tables sometimes when I'm not focused and rush my decisions and I've been playing 6m longer than you have (by a month? lol)
daven wrote:
when tired.
epic fail...


Well, it certainly can be done, but it's not something you do with the expectation that its an optimal strategy for moving up.

Last 100Kish hands, over the past 2 months 12-16 tabling at 7bb/100, plus 2.2K RB:




I'm gonna be building my roll up after pulling out almost all of that, and then once the roll is up to around 6K again I'll try permanently moving up to 1/2 and start out 6 tabling it (which seems like a snails pace compared to what I currently do). Hopefully I can adjust and eventually 9 table. But I don't think I would do higher than 9 tables unless I was at 100NL or below, or if I was Nanonoko


This month:


Almost all 100NL 6m, a few times I played 1/2 and 2/4 because I saw huge fish. 6bb/100, seems good for how many tables I play but i tilted at the end of the month a few days and really should have done at least 1.5K more Sad



These are my best consistent winrates over big samples, now I just need to figure out how to actually move up.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 6:54pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This is my first image host thing so it's probably a fail.

+1K in FR, +200 in RB
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 7:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just for kicks:



Sick volume due to losing and not having a life.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 7:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
11 OF DIAMONDS
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wow sick life
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iopq
Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 9:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Parasurama, red line/blue line plx
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 9:14pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Para, do u play 6m on stars? I played quite a few hands against someone with ur name. How many tables are you doing to get that high volume?
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 9:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Red line, blue line are both negative. Red line was positive for a while and blue line was negative. Then they crossed at $0 and red line was massively negative at the end and blue line was slightly negative.

Yeah I play 6m on stars I was playing 12 tables and tilting like a monkey so you probably don't have a very high opinion of my play superman. What's your name?

I've cut down to 6 tables and am up $400 today (this month) and feel like I'm playing much better.
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Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 1:07am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I didnt do too bad. Deposited 600 on Full Tilt on 6/9/09. Currently at 2256.90.
8.75 bb/100 at nl 25 for 13581 hands
3.47 bb/100 at nl 25 for 22528 hands
2.21 bb/100 at nl 100 for 6317 hands

Im hoping to see my bb/100 get up to closer to 5-6 bb/100 once i get in a groove. If everything goes according to plan I can start touching nl 400 within the next couple months. The good thing is that I am playing purely for fun, I feel no pressure whatso ever. My first session at nl 100 I dropped 4 buy ins like water, but I didnt really spazz. I guess not having to depend on cashouts makes all the difference. Yay to being 26 lolz
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iopq
Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 3:40am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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4 buyins? I'm 22 so I didn't care when I dropped 9 last month lol
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Parasurama
Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 5:38am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yeah lol what does being 26 have to do with anything? I don't depend on cashouts and I'm 19 and I can drop 34 BI no sweat
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iopq
Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 6:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Parasurama wrote:
Yeah lol what does being 26 have to do with anything? I don't depend on cashouts and I'm 19 and I can drop 34 BI no sweat
in b4 an 18 year old posts he dropped 60
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Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 6:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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so apparently all graphs go in here



FR 100NL

@ 18k hands i really shifted gears and popped my steal upto 40'ish and my doubled got my 3-bet to 6-7%.. which is the red line i assume?
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Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 8:10am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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red line is won without showdown, not 3bet.
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Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 8:25am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think he was just saying 3betting more helped his red line. Idk for sure though.

Btw, ship July:

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yeah i meant 3-betting/4-betting more won more hands without showdown.
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mxiu wrote:
yeah i meant 3-betting/4-betting more won more hands without showdown.


Trust me its not always gonna go your way =)
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+$150 in Rakeback
+100 on other laptop

Pissed about the end of the month but felt I ran bad followed by running hot at the very end.
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Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 7:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ZwiFT wrote:
mxiu wrote:
yeah i meant 3-betting/4-betting more won more hands without showdown.


Trust me its not always gonna go your way =)
yeah in my own experience I found it easier to 3b like 6% and squeek under the radar (not get 4b that much, not have to 5b bluff people back) than 3b like 9% and have to shove it in against people who play back at me and pray they don't have the top of their range
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Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 1:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It doesn't matter if they have the top of there range, DUCY
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Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 5:58pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I've kind of noticed this in reverse on Party lately. A LOT of the regs have 3bet % of around 5%, and its just hard to play back against that range since it isnt overwhelmed by bluffs like 8%+ ranges are.
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Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 6:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If you want to play that 5% 3bet range you better damn well have AA and KK in that calling range often enough


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bjsaust wrote:
I've kind of noticed this in reverse on Party lately. A LOT of the regs have 3bet % of around 5%, and its just hard to play back against that range since it isnt overwhelmed by bluffs like 8%+ ranges are.
but then again they don't bother you as much
The statistics in HEM show that people with over 7% 3b are the biggest winners
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Agree, you shouldn't worry about people with 5% 3bets. The have their range weighted towards valuehands enough that you shouldn't play back light against them.
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There are two kinds of 5% 3betters. Some 3bet the same range, some 3bet 8-9% OOP vs stealers. I play them different.
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