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JJ(button) facing a 3xbb raise from CO

  
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hangchiong
Post Posted: Mon, 29 Sep 2008, 5:26pm    Post subject: JJ(button) facing a 3xbb raise from CO Reply with quote
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should i have shove over with 24xbb,or call and see flop.on a low board,and all those dead chips,AI for me?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00+$0.10 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t21598)
MP1 (t28777)
MP2 (t24839)
MP3 (t15921)
CO (t22899)
Hero (Button) (t9659)
SB (t35205)
BB (t27140)
UTG (t11214)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
5 folds, CO raises to t1200, Hero raises to t9609 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t8409

Flop: (t20268) 6, 3, 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t20268) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t20268) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t20268
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mcatdog
Post Posted: Mon, 29 Sep 2008, 5:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm allin with 22, don't be a nit.
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Deanglow
Post Posted: Mon, 29 Sep 2008, 8:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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mcatdog wrote:
I'm allin with 22, don't be a nit.


wait, 22 really?
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mcatdog
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 4:29am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yes. If you give the CO a 25% opening range, and a calling range of 66+ AJ+ ATs (we're 34.5% vs this), and the blinds overcalling ranges of TT+ AK (we're 29.8% vs this)

10% we get it in with 29.8% equity, lose an average of 3300 chips
29% we get it in with 34.5% equity, lose an average of 2600 chips
61% we take down the pot and win 2250 chips

Overall it comes out to +300 chips, as a general rule I don't pass up edges this big. It's possible that in a $1 tournament, people aren't stealing the blinds as much, and aren't folding enough to all-ins, so then you can fold 22 here.
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revolvingiris
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 11:21pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Why just call here? You would have to give villain a TON of respect to lay this down. You cant call being its over a 10th of your stack. Your push fold IMO and in a $1 and AI every time.
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