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iopq
Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 2:39pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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7/75 hours complete!

I played kind of shitty, though. It's due to the fact that I wasn't really looking at the fold to cbet stat of the fish and some of them had a really low fold to cbet and I ended up running bad vs. the fish because I couldn't hit a flop to save my life.

running three buyins under expectation didn't help either:

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (3 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($38.95)
SB ($100)
Hero (BB) ($199.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
1 fold, SB bets $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) Q, J, 7 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($14) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $38, Hero raises to $192.75 (All-In), SB calls $55 (All-In)

River: ($200) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $200 | Rake: $1



I didn't feel bad about it while playing because I was still up at the time, but now that I'm down for the session I can go back to the badbeats and whine about them
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Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 4:54pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Would raising flop maybe be better?
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Post Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 10:19am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Micro2Macro wrote:
Would raising flop maybe be better?
doesn't matter, QJ vs. bottom set, rivered queen, etc.

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iopq avatar is the cutest, not close.

ship it crucial
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Post Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 4:09am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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OK I just found out my hours measurement was kind of incorrect, only 9.6 hours out of 75 despite playing around 3 hours on the 4th
I should have been using the session tab in the first place to get the exact value

running bad this month, but at least I'm breaking even with RB lol so technically I'm up $125 because of clearing the midyear Bonus
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Post Posted: Mon, 06 Jul 2009, 12:21am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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11/75 hours complete!

still can't stack a fish if my life depended on it and getting coolered by FISH trips vs. trips with better kicker
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Post Posted: Mon, 06 Jul 2009, 7:26am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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MIDSTAKES, FUCK YEAH
1/2 BITCHES

I took a shot and I'm up 60 bucks after like 40 minutes
updated my operation image, look at my BEE ARE

Note that I was actually running bad at 100NL, but I took a shot anyway because variance doesn't affect my moving up decision
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Post Posted: Mon, 06 Jul 2009, 5:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Thu, 09 Jul 2009, 8:02am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So I checked out the new FTP software
I read some 2+2 threads about it and became convinced it was bad

but then I realized I should form my own opinion of it
so I did and became convinced it was bad
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Post Posted: Thu, 09 Jul 2009, 10:59am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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iopq wrote:
So I checked out the new FTP software
I read some 2+2 threads about it and became convinced it was bad

but then I realized I should form my own opinion of it
so I did and became convinced it was bad

what is wrong with it that wasn't wrong with the old interface?
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Post Posted: Thu, 09 Jul 2009, 1:53pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Played some today, but I was surprisingly tired and couldn't handle 4 tables that well
ran like shit again though

daven wrote:
iopq wrote:
So I checked out the new FTP software
I read some 2+2 threads about it and became convinced it was bad

but then I realized I should form my own opinion of it
so I did and became convinced it was bad

what is wrong with it that wasn't wrong with the old interface?
I mean I'm just going to ignore the fact I lost all my mods and everything because new ones will come out
But for one thing it stopped popping up when you have a hand
so you try to type a bet amount and then you hit the bet button and you end up betting the minimum because WINDOW DOESN'T HAVE FUCKING FOCUS

at least they released a patch today so I'll see if it works now
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Post Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 11:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think it popped up the window it just didn't set focus on the bet text box. That sucks, and I miss my mods. I actually have to stop for a split second to read the cards because my tables are so small. It wasn't a problem with the hyper-simple ones.
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Post Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 11:53pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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dev wrote:
I think it popped up the window it just didn't set focus on the bet text box. That sucks, and I miss my mods. I actually have to stop for a split second to read the cards because my tables are so small. It wasn't a problem with the hyper-simple ones.
neither happens, it doesn't pop up or set the focus on the bet box
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Post Posted: Sat, 11 Jul 2009, 3:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I've been having a bunch of issues with it... my hud is acting up too. It doesn't update as quickly as it used to, etc. It's a good thing I've got so many local games around, cus I'm pretty much just playing enough on FTP to keep iron man up.
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Post Posted: Mon, 13 Jul 2009, 3:38am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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dev wrote:
I've been having a bunch of issues with it... my hud is acting up too. It doesn't update as quickly as it used to, etc. It's a good thing I've got so many local games around, cus I'm pretty much just playing enough on FTP to keep iron man up.
yeah you have to manually kill the hmhud.exe process from the task manager

I'm getting 200 points a day as well
mad gay
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Post Posted: Tue, 14 Jul 2009, 10:54am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ok so I tried CAP NL today for lols and balls
I got coolered and bad beat so hardcore... but then again I bad beat/coolered other people
but floating/3bing regs is not that great because there's no real implied threat so I guess it's my fault for getting it in bad in some spots
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Post Posted: Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 11:05am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm scared. I'm scared because it starts to feel like "oh I'll definitely put in more hours LATER" which is usually when I don't put in the hours at all. Right now I really can't play because I'm tired and about to go to sleep. The question becomes: "Can I trust myself?" I want to trust myself. At least it looks like this month I will actually make ironman instead of kind of slacking off half way through.

But it's been half a month, and I've played 21 hours out of the 75 I thought I was going to play. Of course tilt's sucky software is an excuse, because I can always just play on PS.

But I am going to dedicate myself to play 50 hours at least. Then I can be like 3Kish up for the month running normally.
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Post Posted: Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 2:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I didn't get as much sleep as I wanted to, so I played a little over two hours

but holy shit can I stop getting bad beat
JJ > AA kind of made me sad, still waiting for a sick heater
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Post Posted: Sun, 19 Jul 2009, 6:52pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ok finally won some moneys back
I've been rebuilding rolls at the 100NL, even though I'm rolled for 1/2 I realized I don't need to push it I can just get back into black at 100NL
there is no big difference between the regs, but there are actually a lot more fish at the 100NL than 1/2

23 hours this month out of the planned 75, but I can still play on stars later in the day if nothing exciting happens
I know I like never meet my goals, but a man can dream!
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Post Posted: Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 7:24am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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played 35 hours this month, I'm at least positive at 100NL now
just 1100 dollars to grind back X-(
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Post Posted: Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 1:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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played 90 minutes on stars and I am up like 4 buyins
man stars is soft it's all these fish in the morning
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Post Posted: Thu, 23 Jul 2009, 9:12pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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poker kind of pisses me off, when you run good it's autopilot, when you run bad it's like eating shit, shitting and eating it again

no worries, up this session too!
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Post Posted: Fri, 24 Jul 2009, 7:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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iopq wrote:
played 90 minutes on stars and I am up like 4 buyins
man stars is soft it's all these fish in the morning


what time are you playing?

i need to stop playing at like 6 AM EST Sad
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Post Posted: Fri, 24 Jul 2009, 5:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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AFchung wrote:
iopq wrote:
played 90 minutes on stars and I am up like 4 buyins
man stars is soft it's all these fish in the morning


what time are you playing?

i need to stop playing at like 6 AM EST Sad
play like 3 hours later, the eurodonks come on at that time
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Post Posted: Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 2:13am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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THE HEADS UP CHALLENGE:
yAAwn issued a challenge of 10K hands at 100NL in two months

not sure how many tables, etc. but it's going to be epic
I'm going to like mass the shit out of heads up in the remaining days of the month
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Quote:
3) On a note card, write out clearly a statement that will remind you of you want to think/react to the situation. This is critical too because you can't rely on your thinking to get you out of it, you need a reminder. Overtime, the note card often becomes irrelavent because the remidner is known so well.
I'm just going to write it here and usually when I write something down I remember it

I still feel anxious before playing because of the stress and uncertainty. I don't know what will happen, I just know that in the long run I will win. I'm going to stop telling my friends how much I win because I kind of put pressure on myself to have a winning month every time. Then I don't feel as comfortable moving up because I'm like shit, what if I downswing at a higher stake, I won't be able to win a lot that month!
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Another part of that is since I am running a business I am not using my primary asset (me) as effectively as I should. I should set a goal that is reasonable to work towards. Maybe 30 hours a week of solid play. But that is just poker-wise. I think I need to start thinking about life-wise and happiness-wise. What do I want to do this year in life? I want to make lots of friends and become more social in general. But right now I am only working on the aspect of life that is poker. I guess playing games like StarCraft and such is not bad, because I feel immersed when I play. I have the so-called "flow" when I'm playing SC. So I guess it's one of those things that make me happy right now. But in terms of overcoming my relative unexperience in social situations, I need to like go outside or something.
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Just reading Jared Tendler's thread is making me nervous because there are so many people in the thread that have similar problems to mine. Having to realize that I have emotional control issues is like a hit to my self-confidence because it's nice to say "I never tilt" or something even when it's not really true. I think a big part of it is to realize that emotions influence not only your game, but how long you play, if you play every day, etc. At this point I wish I could just go on "chase my losses" tilt and put in like 8 hours. But in reality I think I should think of my money as an investment, like stock instead of real money. My earn should not be monthly where I can post graph in a thread or something, but I should think of my graph as a stock where it goes up and down, but mostly up. So I should only consider my earnings at the end of the year. If it's not real money I am more emotionally detached from it.

Link: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26/psychology/ask-mental-game-coach-jared-tendler-521436/


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iopq wrote:
it's nice to say "I never tilt"

anyone who says this does not comprehend what tilt is. Do they only ever play the best game they are able to play? every hand? every decision?

oh, and go outside dude. Poker complements my lifestyle of climbing, juggling, beer drinking and travel. Starcraft? hmmmmmm
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Post Posted: Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 6:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Confidence is a huge part of this game... We have to find a way to have that confidence without lying to ourselves.
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Just thinking about direction of my life, what I want, etc. just makes my head spin because it hits topics that I hadn't given too much thought. I just want to get away and lie down because there are so many unknowns. But as I keep going I think a lot of those things that were previously unknowns are becoming revealed. For example, how am I going to afford buying a car/paying for insurance/gas/etc.
I am already paying for a lot of things like food, internet, computer upgrades/accessories so actually I am no longer doubting my ability to pay a small bill every month with poker

but for other things I want from life, there is still that uncertainty because I don't know how to get them, even if I do have money

Jared Tendler says I should invest time into building my poker skill so I'll do just that
I will play sum regs on stars and expect to break even but hopefully build my skill level
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daven wrote:
iopq wrote:
it's nice to say "I never tilt"

anyone who says this does not comprehend what tilt is. Do they only ever play the best game they are able to play? every hand? every decision?

oh, and go outside dude. Poker complements my lifestyle of climbing, juggling, beer drinking and travel. Starcraft? hmmmmmm
I'm going to Blizzcon so at least I can say I travel! That also will be combining social interaction with info about Starcraft II. I guess it's one of those things I look forward to. Also, I go to Go club on Tuesdays, so that's something I look forward to as well. Fuck it, I'll go play baskbetball right now. brb calling up my friend lol

EDIT: god damn it stop turning off your phone fag
EDIT2: so I got a hold of my other friend so I'll do SOMETHING today
lol
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played over 3 hours today
I probably should have wrapped it all up into two sessions instead of 3 because the third session I was pretty tired
but I gotta say if I get in 37K hands this month I'd be pretty happy (25 days at like 1400 hands per day) since I'd estimate that to be around a 3K month
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ship the 6 buy-in heater
I guess I'm just going to try to book a decent month at 100NL before moving up to 1/2 permanently
unless I run like jesus and ship like 2K in two weeks of course
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so today I couldn't make the deadline for the day's at end at tilt poker so I didn't play and did something else

but it is crucial for me to complete my ironman 200 points today so that I can complete a month of ironman playing 100NL the entire time so I can prove that I have the discipline to do it, at least to myself

what I'm going to focus on right now is trying to learn basic skills at 100NL so that I reach the level of unconscious competence
this would mean I can play with less mental effort, and probably put in more hours
I think since last month I've been able to put in slightly more volume, but that's because I can force myself better to play and I've had less problems with starting a session
I think the next step would be to put in more hours than last month, to make that a goal
I think I put in something like 43 hours last month

here's an interesting quote about booking wins:
Jared Tendler wrote:
Regarding booking wins, I think it comes down to the difference between winning and earning. Winning and losing are the short-term realities of poker given varience and why you have bank roll. Earning is the point where you've gone through enough ups/downs where you can say that money is earned income and you can pull it out. Rather than focusing on winning, focus on by playing more, especially when playing well, and that will allow you to realize income sooner.


this is talking about how to be "process oriented" rather than "results oriented":
Jared Tendler wrote:
So how do you learn it? There are a number of ways:

1) Repetition everyday regardless of whether the issues comes up. This helps to build familiarity, so when the problem does show up and emotion may throw you off your plan, you can instead recognize the problem in the moment and return to focusing on playing well, rather than protecting your win.

2) When the issue does show up, take a couple deep breath to seperate yourself from the emotion a bit. This is an emotional prob, so its treated just like I treat Tilt. Then remind yourself of your long-term goals and how playing right now is important to getting there. Fight your way to extend the session longer, even if its just for another few minutes that's progress. Over time, you'll be able to push yourself further and further as you 1) gain experience doing it, 2) increase the strength of the long-term perspective/process oriented approach. Quitting is an option many people suggest, I only suggested it if you are risk at making sig mistakes. If you can continue to play well and think you have an edge in the game, pushing yourself to play well in a spot that is tough for you, is a big help to learning the long-term perspective better and in reinforcing parts of your game that can often be leaks.

3) Set process oriented goals. Many players have goals that talk about money, hours, limits to play, hands, etc. All things that can easily quantified. They are important, but you need to balance them with process goals that talk about the specific skills that you want to develop. In this case your goal is to have the process oriented approach/long-term perspective to show up in the short-term.
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is it lucky when you run like god in all in ev because you keep getting coolered and have to suck out?
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i just read your suggested reading for the first time, was a sick, sick read.

how are you doing? your sig never updates.
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mxiu wrote:
i just read your suggested reading for the first time, was a sick, sick read.

how are you doing? your sig never updates.
any time I read threads like that I get a boost in motivation

my sig never updates because I broke even for a month
so overall my BR is around 8K, I don't feel the need to update it for $500

I guess I'll have to update after a sick heater
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yeah it gave me an amazing boost of motivation. I haven't had one like that in a long time, I can't wait for my next session. If you have any other threads like that, let me know. I've never been to 2+2, so I'm sure I miss a lot of content there.
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OK, so now I'm finally going to Vegas as I said all the way back on page 2. So far someone recommended the Venetian. What else should I do whlie I'm there?
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http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/

You will NOT be disappointed. Sickest thing to do in Vegas. Be sure to get your friends to videotape you shooting an AK47, MP5, and a 12 gauge shotgun (the three guns I shot).
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I can afford those things if I move up to 1/2 :O
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I played for 6 hours yesterday
It was fucking insane
I played 3 hours, took a break, ate some food, watched tv for an hour and I was still tired
then I started playin again and I got less tired as I kept playing as the food hit my stomach

if I can play 6 hours a day even 5 times a week I'd get like 120 hours a month, or roughly 60K hands
if we estimate 4ptbb/100 that's $4800 per month at 100NL (!)
but if I move up to 1/2 and have success it would probably be moar
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When your in Vegas, try to find a host for a casino. They hook you up with stuff if you play at their casino.

4800 a month would be sick, better job than just about anything else.
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I actually went to Blizzcon; trip to Vegas was postponed. Then I came back home and paid for it in about two hours. Too bad I have to purchase a continuing month or four days (if I play every single day of this month) for ironman.
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hi iopq i read your op occasionally

do you think ironman is worth it? I'm wondering whether I should bother, but the rewards don't seem like much
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Post Posted: Tue, 25 Aug 2009, 2:05am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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iopq wrote:
Too bad I have to purchase a continuing month or four days (if I play every single day of this month) for ironman.

maybe you know already that getting a lower level (e.g. gold) for a month still counts as retaining your status. That's how I can play only 15days in august and still have 20 months in the ironman challenge at the end of it
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daven wrote:
iopq wrote:
Too bad I have to purchase a continuing month or four days (if I play every single day of this month) for ironman.

maybe you know already that getting a lower level (e.g. gold) for a month still counts as retaining your status. That's how I can play only 15days in august and still have 20 months in the ironman challenge at the end of it
o rly?!

then fuck it I'm getting gold

btw, ironman for a year is about a stars milestone or so but less volume
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fffffffuck
I played 4 tables while I was tired and kind of played like shit

now I will punish myself by grinding all of tomorrow
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