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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 10:48pm Post subject: Implied odds
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Two Pair
Joined: 26 Jan 2009
Posts: 46
WPP: 124
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PokerStars Game #34974446615: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2009/11/05 19:38:12 CT [2009/11/05 20:38:12 ET]
Table 'Majuba' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1 HERO ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 2: parrot1head ($9.30 in chips)
Seat 3: olsta1011 ($18.40 in chips)
Seat 4: codeblue2112 ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: SB doctor gabo ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 7: BB Villain ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: AflytexA ($11.65 in chips)
Seat 9: JUPE$TRE ($5.35 in chips)
doctor gabo: posts small blind $0.10
mrh111: is sitting out
Villain: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Th Ah]
mrh111 leaves the table
gaybar joins the table at seat #6
AflytexA: calls $0.25
JUPE$TRE: folds
HERO: calls $0.25
parrot1head: folds
olsta1011: folds
codeblue2112: folds
doctor gabo: calls $0.15
Villain: checks
*** FLOP *** [9h 3h 3c]
doctor gabo: checks
Villain: bets $1
AflytexA: folds
HERO: calls $1
doctor gabo: folds
*** TURN *** [9h 3h 3c] [Js]
Villain: bets $1.50
Am I right to call flop bet with implied odds opportunity? At turn, Im getting 3 to 1 on call. Does implied odds (if I put him on trips, and I did) tell me to call here? And if I hit big flush…then what? |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 10:54pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 3542
WPP: 101
Location: The Grind
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In before lock. We need reads and stats, and please use the hand converter. |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 10:55pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
Posts: 2260
WPP: 148
Location: Im opedipus bitch, the original balla.
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| If you want good answers/discussion, then convert the hand, edit your post, and add reads. |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 11:03pm Post subject: Converter
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Two Pair
Joined: 26 Jan 2009
Posts: 46
WPP: 124
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| Having trouble with converter. Gives me format error, but my post at the input matches example in FAQ. Any help? |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 11:04pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 3542
WPP: 101
Location: The Grind
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| Anyway, reload prepreflop, raise preflop, call flop as played, turn is more tricky and I don't feel like counting the pot. Basically you need to search around and find a post on implied odds and pot odds and playing draws (pro tip: check the sticky and search function). If this fails then maybe you could talk about what you think his range is. It might be {JJ+, 33, 99} which is cool since you're only drawing completely dead against that range something like 16% of the time. |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 11:05pm Post subject:
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Two Pair
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
Posts: 40
WPP: 88
Location: hell
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i'll have a go at the maths but i'm terrible so hopefully soon someone who knows will come along and correct me, then that way we all learn.
if you call the turn the max you can win is $7.50 because your stack is short (pot will be $6). you are getting 3:1 on your turn call, and if he has a three, you have 7 outs (Jh is no good and he has to have another card with his three which, if its not a heart, makes him a full house anyway). i actually like to remove discount perhaps one out on paired boards for the times he has J9, 39, and just because drawing to flushes on paired boards isn't great. 6 outs once = roughly 12% chance of hitting. you are getting 3:1, and thus, being a roughly 7:1 dog, you need to extract (this is probably wrong) 4x$1.5=6 on the river to break even? seeing as the effective stack is $6 you have to be sure he stacks off every time a heart falls just to break even, i think it's a fold. i'd almost be willing to bet i kooked the maths in there somewhere, and also, am i correct in discounting that many outs? |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 11:07pm Post subject:
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Two Pair
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
Posts: 40
WPP: 88
Location: hell
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| sorry you do have a little bit of room to profit, as the effective stack is $7.50 (i thought it was 6) so it is possible, if my maths was remotely correct, to profit on the river. |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 11:51pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
Posts: 677
WPP: 111
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Fold preflop and for God sakes stop limping. A solid winning player limps like what.. 2 times a session? and has a good reason for doing so on the button or sb.
As played fold that crap. |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 12:14am Post subject: Re: Converter
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Straight Flush
Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5681
WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| DrStrangeShove wrote: | | Having trouble with converter. Gives me format error, but my post at the input matches example in FAQ. Any help? |
Are you entering the whole hand, or only the part you posted here? |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 7:41am Post subject:
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Two Pair
Joined: 26 Jan 2009
Posts: 46
WPP: 124
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Youre right outlaw. Definite fold. I fuckin hate A10. When suited it looks good and I get myself into this kind of jam. One of those: "grab leg by the ankle, remove from ass" situations.
But, yeah, put the whole thing in input box and hit convert. Gave me format error. Do I need to download anything? I looked at the stars example in FAQ and put in same amount of information. Chose FTR format. I didnt check any boxes. Any suggestions? |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 9:22am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Posts: 440
WPP: 196
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go to weaktight.com
make an account, post a hand history using their converter, and then switch to FTR format and post what it gives you (or just post the weaktight link).
Maybe that helps show what the HH should look like too, idk. I find it easier to use anyway though. |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 9:24am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
Posts: 677
WPP: 111
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| I'm sure there is something simple you are doing wrong. I don't have camtasia down here or I'd make a video on how to do it. Maybe someone else will make one and post it somewhere for n00bs. |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 4:55pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5681
WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| Post it in the feedback section, including the text for the hand. |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 7:25pm Post subject:
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Two Pair
Joined: 26 Jan 2009
Posts: 46
WPP: 124
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| Figured it out. I'll use it for future posts. Thanks for replies. Im a dumbass. |
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