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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 6:28pm Post subject: I play weak tight
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Full House

Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 1334 WPP: 83
Location: Deventer
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Hand 1: Villain 16/12/2.55 over 427 hands. Steals 20%, so his UTG range should be very tight.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($21.35)
SB ($52.30)
BB ($25)
UTG ($26.80)
MP ($27.60)
Hero (CO) ($27.50)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 10 , 10
UTG bets $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 3 folds
Flop: ($2.35) 3 , 8 , 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75
Turn: ($5.85) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero folds
Total pot: $5.85 | Rake: $0.25
Hand 2: Villain unknown. I stoved this, I actually think this one is close and more weighted towards 3betting flop against an unknown.
It's just that so many people at these stakes are so passive that they're not raising without 2pair, here. Also, my range is very strong.
Anyone calling? What's your turn and river plan?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (SB) ($25)
BB ($23.50)
UTG ($24.90)
MP ($20.80)
Button ($12.05)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q , Q
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, MP calls $1.50
Flop: ($3.75) 4 , 5 , 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP raises to $6, Hero folds
Total pot: $9.75 | Rake: $0.45 |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 6:39pm Post subject:
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Eats babies

Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 3884 WPP: 109
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Hand 1 I probably 3bet. He's tight but he's folding most hands still to a 3bet. I don't mind taking this down or folding to a 4bet. Your pretty much calling for set odds here if your thinking of folding this flop. Easy fold as played.
hand 2 sucks because you either need to take away his odds pre or not play for stacks postflop. I call this and call nay draws that miss on the turn. Limp/calls are usually shit pairs and these are shit pairs hitting this flop. I don't fold but I aint stacking off. Maybe a flop check could be better. |
Last edited by jyms on Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 8:01pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 6:42pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind

Joined: 09 Jun 2008
Posts: 66 WPP: 142
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Just disregard this, I thought this was FR.
I think I play hand 1 the same (not that it means it's good).
Hand two, I usually take two different lines depending on villain type.
- against the 8/6 guys and the ones with a large VPIP/PFR gap, I just fold, since they have here only sets.
- against the aggressive "good" taggish guys (like 17/15 and very aggro) I call and go for pot control, since they do this with weaker overpairs along the sets. |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 7:29pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 26 Feb 2009
Posts: 808 WPP: 132
Location: Slowrollin' in the $0.10 DONs 'cause that's what all the cool people on TV do
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| jyms wrote: | | Maybe a flop check could be better. |
how do you check this soaking wet flop against an unknown? i feel like that's just asking for trouble |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 7:33pm Post subject:
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Strike 3

Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 5869 WPP: 52
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if you're going to fold a SPADE 3, might as well c/f flop
he's barreling a flush draw and a picked up flush draw, T9
there's no way a 3 is in his range unless he just made quads
hand 2 I just call
if he really wants to get it in, I'll just let him have it
if he bets kind of like a bitch I'll call him down |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 7:40pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 7005 WPP: 71
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| I'd fold to a bigger turn bet in 1, this size I peel and plan on owning him on scary river cards when he checks, definitely don't 3bet PF. |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 8:55pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Posts: 813 WPP: 69
Location: in my dad's account making him manies
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| jyms wrote: | | Hand 1 I probably 3bet. He's tight but he's folding most hands still to a 3bet. |
I don't really understand how this is a justification for a 3b at all |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 1:47am Post subject:
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Flush

Joined: 06 Apr 2007
Posts: 272 WPP: 98
Location: constantly UTG
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Please to be explaining :
| bigspenda73 wrote: | | I plan on owning him on scary river cards when he checks. |
Doesn't our hand have enough showdown value not to be bluffing scare cards on the river if he checks?
Also what is your betsize in this situation on scary rivers and why?
And if he bets 1/2 pot on a non-scary river are you folding?
I just don't think we need to turn our hand into a bluff here on scary rivers, but maybe its a leak |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 7:47am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 1334 WPP: 83
Location: Deventer
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I like your line Spenda on 1. I was actually thinking of that on the turn already, but this is like this shittiest turn to rep anything.
IOPQ, I think you're giving villain too wide of an UTG opening range. |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 9:26am Post subject:
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Strike 3

Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 5869 WPP: 52
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| minSim wrote: | I like your line Spenda on 1. I was actually thinking of that on the turn already, but this is like this shittiest turn to rep anything.
IOPQ, I think you're giving villain too wide of an UTG opening range. | he steals 20% yet his stats are 12% from all positions
he's definitely opening 9% or so UTG and T9s should be in his opening range but it doesn't have to be
furthermore, he's likely barreling KQs type of hands if he has a flush draw
at NL25 he's probably not continuing on the river unimproved, though so I'll fold river |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 11:46am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | | I'd fold to a bigger turn bet in 1, this size I peel and plan on owning him on scary river cards when he checks, definitely don't 3bet PF. |
This
You guys are nuts if you think his double barrelling range is wide but it should be a tad wider with a smaller bet thus making our equity bigger and a call a lot easier.
Hand 2, I'd flat the flop raise and go from there |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 8:55pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 7005 WPP: 71
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| caddie444 wrote: | | Doesn't our hand have enough showdown value not to be bluffing scare cards on the river if he checks? |
no way jose |
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Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 6:13am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 1334 WPP: 83
Location: Deventer
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| kmind wrote: | | Hand 2, I'd flat the flop raise and go from there | Please explain your turn plan on:
- any club
- 2
- 7
- blank facing a 2/3 psb |
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Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 6:37am Post subject:
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Strike 3

Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 5869 WPP: 52
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| minSim wrote: | | kmind wrote: | | Hand 2, I'd flat the flop raise and go from there | Please explain your turn plan on:
- any club
- 2
- 7
- blank facing a 2/3 psb | my plan is to soulread and own my opponent either by making a good fold or a good call
well a 2 is like an instant c/f obv |
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