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I'm Crazy...500k hands by June 30?!?!?!?!?

  
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Jager
Post Posted: Sat, 24 Mar 2007, 11:58pm    Post subject: I'm Crazy...500k hands by June 30?!?!?!?!? Reply with quote
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This is my goal 500,000 hands from now - June 30.

The reasons for even attempting this are:

1. To build a 25k+ roll, I figure this is about what I need to 'super' table select between 200 and 600 nl.
2. I am likely to be buying a house that needs a new roof plus some other stuff.
3. To put me on pace for SN elite by mid Dec.
4. I am going to need a new car by ~ September.
5. To see if I can handle this many hands to not continue looking in my awful market for a better job, so that I may perhaps turn Pro(I already use some money from poker to pay my bills).

The Plan:

To play 6k hands per day, by 8 tabling for 7-8 hours. I have played 250k so far this year so this is about double what I am currently playing. I have been working 30-40 hours/wk, however I will only be working 10 hours/wk at the most while this is attempted. If I play those hours I had been working I will hit 6k hands per day. My current roll is ~12k, and I am playing 200 98% of the time with some 100 if the table is good. I have just achieved SN status, so if I play 500k hands I will pull down 300k VPPs. This will get me the 200k, 300k, and 400k milestone bonuses. Plus an additional 300k Fpps/mo for 900k Fpps total for 9 $1500 stars bonuses. That comes to $22,500 and if I run 3ptbb/100 thats another $30,000 at 200nl, for a potential total of $52,500 in 3 months. However the $22,500 is what I need for a new roof and to build my roll to 25k, so if I just BE over this period I will accomplish my goal, and I will be only 100k VPPs from the 5k milestone Bonus to put towards a new ride.

Now all I need from you is to tell me how crazy this is, and that I can never play 500k hands in 3 months...
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biondino
Post Posted: Sun, 25 Mar 2007, 6:21am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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When people set themselves targets it's always a good idea to make sure that all of the variables are within a comfort zone - don't set your bb/100 too high, don't assume you'll be able to play every day, leave yourself space for breaks.

But it seems like your target is only achievable if you manage to perform at your limit in each area. Don't underestimate the psychological effects of falling behind, either, which is that much more likely to happen if you're stretching yourself.

But good luck - it'll be quite an undertaking!
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Kauf Jr.
Post Posted: Sun, 25 Mar 2007, 8:13am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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When people set themselves targets it's always a good idea to make sure that all of the variables are within a comfort zone - don't set your bb/100 too high, don't assume you'll be able to play every day, leave yourself space for breaks.


I have to agree with biondino here, but I think it's great when people aim high!

Good luck!
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givememyleg
Post Posted: Sun, 25 Mar 2007, 8:18am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I would be very impressed if you could handle this. I would go batshit insane. Good luck man! Very Happy
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Miffed22001
Post Posted: Sun, 25 Mar 2007, 8:41am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i personally think you'll burn out well before you ever hit these numbers. If youd set a target to continue what you are doing for a 3mnth period, showed you can continue to do it and stepped up in intervals then i think you can do it pretty easily.
But IMO this is too big a step, when your roll is at that level where it can go busto pretty darn quick (not to say you will, but weve seen plenty of players who have)

regardless, gl with it, i just think you need to reevaluate 7-8 hrs per day is just going to burn you out pretty quickly.
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Alexos
Post Posted: Sun, 25 Mar 2007, 4:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Well, I think you can do it cuz you already play more hands than anyone on this forum except for renton maybe?

So if there's one guy who can do this its you:) GL man

Btw, its 7-8 hrs/day but weekends off right? (too lazy to count)
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Sun, 25 Mar 2007, 9:23pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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I'd 12 table short handed and play as many hands as u possibly can just so you can brag. but do it at 50NL.
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Da GOAT
Post Posted: Fri, 18 May 2007, 9:40am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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bump
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biondino
Post Posted: Fri, 18 May 2007, 9:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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You seriously think he's got time to post?
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Da GOAT
Post Posted: Fri, 18 May 2007, 11:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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But I want to hear his pain, ppl love to see other suffer lol makes me feel good
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Jager
Post Posted: Sat, 19 May 2007, 11:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Alright here is an update. I ran into a couple problems. First I had to move twice in a little over a month, this was due to a mortgage issue that took 3 weeks to resolve. After closing on the house I had to take 5 days off to prepare the house before I could move in and get the cable turned on. So we are in the 7th week of this 13 week project out of which I was only able to play45 out of a possible 59 days so I lost 2 weeks worth of play.

So over the past 7 weeks I have logged 173k hands. I plan on playing a ton over the next 4 days(double VPPs on Stars). I think I will come in around 400k hands by 6/30.
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meeloche
Post Posted: Sat, 19 May 2007, 8:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Sick, props on being able to play that many hands in such a short period of time without going insane. I can't even imagine how many FPP you must be raking in right now while they are doubled.
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Post Posted: Sun, 20 May 2007, 7:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Sun, 20 May 2007, 10:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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how many tables do you play? 16? 20?
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Post Posted: Mon, 21 May 2007, 6:48am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Is no-one else interested in how it's going financially? Smile
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Jager
Post Posted: Mon, 21 May 2007, 11:13am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This thread isn't about how I am running, but if you really want to know...


I generally have been running bad. I have had a 18 buyin, a 12 buyin, and 3 10 buyin downswings each lasting 5k+ hands. I have had only 1 5k+ hand block where I ran 5 ptbb/100 or better. I also am a losing player on Friday(-1.59 bb/100) and a marginal winner on Sat & Sun(~1.5 bb/100). These are the times when the games are the best, and also when I play the most, 90k hands over those 3 days. During the week when the games are toughest, I am a solid 4.0 + winner, and I usually play during the day...

So all in all I have 183k hands in for a monster winrate of 1.84 ptbb/100 showing a profit of 13.5k for 7 weeks. Plus I have cashed 4 $1500 bonuses, plus the $2000 milestone Bonus, for a total profit of 21.5k. For you Rakeback freaks the 4 bonuses are 35.2% Rakeback as I have paid 17k in rake.
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biondino
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Jun 2007, 7:15pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hey Jager, how's it gone? Update plz!
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Jager
Post Posted: Wed, 04 Jul 2007, 2:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Total hands played :327,702...
I thought I would get a little higher, but I had some other stuff going on in June that I did not account for(I was Tournament Director for a series of local tournaments), then I took a shot at 400 and played less tables for a week.

The April and May ended up pretty good over all for me. 194,000 hands at 1/2 with a 2.20 ptbb/100 winrate. This is not as high as I would like, but I am 8-10 tabling and continue to run like crap on the weekends.
June was awful and has continued into July. Since June 1 107,000 hands at 1/2 for a whopping $7.56! This including my 15 buy in drop at 2/4. I managed to pull enough Bonus $ to show a profit in June, but it has not been fun. I think someone said 'you will run worse than you ever thought possible'. This is me right now. Had a 30k stretch at the beginning of June -13 buyins. Last 50k hands -25 buyins.

Anyway I am sorry I haven't been post in this thread more. My goal was 150k hands per month, plus the extra week up front. It turned out to be 100k hands per month, mostly 'cause I ended up taking off more time than I originally planned for. I think its time for a real blog thingy...
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Post Posted: Thu, 05 Jul 2007, 12:27am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Damn Jager, that's so shitty. Hope things turn around for you.
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sauce123
Post Posted: Thu, 05 Jul 2007, 9:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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jager- ur work ethic is so incredible that you should spend X hours a day watching CR videos/getting coaching/reading 2p2/playing less tables LAG or whatever because having played such an absurd number of hands and seeing such a low winrate you have to come to the conclusion that u r doing something wrong- most of which is likely being too passive postflop.

i just say this because putting the work in to raise ur winrate to 4 pt bb/100 at 1/2nl is going to make u soooo much money and also its going to result in much fewer swings.
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Jager
Post Posted: Fri, 06 Jul 2007, 12:58am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Unfortunately sauce I do spend X hours a day reading through all the forums. Funny thing a few months back I tried to increase my postflop aggression and I went on a solid BE streak at 100nl. I have picked it up again only to see a 44 BI downswing, although this time I am much more selective about my aggression, just on a horrible run. I went almost 10k hands without winning a single AI hand.

BTW see new blog thread thingy.
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sauce123
Post Posted: Fri, 06 Jul 2007, 1:09am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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nah man its not about aggression exactly more about accurately putting ppl on ranges- for instance allowing someone to triple barrel and calling them down with top pair the whole way
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Fri, 06 Jul 2007, 3:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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2.2ptBB/100 at 1/2 10 tabling is very good, and I'd be more than satisfied with that.

Anyways poker is all about understanding, not just hearing.
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Post Posted: Sat, 07 Jul 2007, 12:09am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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IowaSkinsFan wrote:
2.2ptBB/100 at 1/2 10 tabling is very good, and I'd be more than satisfied with that.

Anyways poker is all about understanding, not just hearing.


Should probably go head over to the limit forum, then. The Rakeback is better and the winrate the same.
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Post Posted: Sat, 07 Jul 2007, 1:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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Unless you're better than your level you're not going to be bigger than a 3ptBB/100 winner long term.
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