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Posted: Sun, 05 Aug 2007, 12:07pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 3614
WPP: 52
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| Iwind wrote: | | Why would anyone do that? There are lots of these shortstackers out there already, good thing that many of them play pretty bad. Especially at Party it's a huge problem. The easier it is for people to find out how to play a shortstack profitably, the more of them there will be out there and the better those shortstacks will be. And then all the regular players' winrate will be lower, why would we want that... |
i know i know 
maybe you could just disguise it inside some boring thread no one ever reads lol... |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Aug 2007, 1:04pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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WPP: 74
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PokerStars Game #11394129265: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/08/09 - 12:59:45 (ET)
Table 'Serpens IV' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Stelvask ($587 in chips)
Seat 2: heybude ($818.50 in chips)
Stelvask: posts small blind $2
heybude: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heybude [8h 7c]
Stelvask: raises $8 to $12
heybude: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [4d Tc 9s]
heybude: checks
Stelvask: bets $16
heybude: raises $32 to $48
Stelvask: calls $32
*** TURN *** [4d Tc 9s] [2c]
heybude: bets $108
Stelvask: calls $108
*** RIVER *** [4d Tc 9s 2c] [4c]
heybude: checks
Stelvask: bets $225
heybude: raises $225 to $450
Stelvask: folds
heybude collected $785.50 from pot |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Aug 2007, 1:20pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6593
WPP: 74
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| I know this last hand made no sense... its because i was planning on giving up on the river, and then a timing tell made me pretty sure he had a missed draw. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Aug 2007, 2:34pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 3614
WPP: 52
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| IowaSkinsFan wrote: | | I know this last hand made no sense... its because i was planning on giving up on the river, and then a timing tell made me pretty sure he had a missed draw. |
what exactly was the tell? |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Aug 2007, 3:13pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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WPP: 74
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| martindcx1e wrote: | | IowaSkinsFan wrote: | | I know this last hand made no sense... its because i was planning on giving up on the river, and then a timing tell made me pretty sure he had a missed draw. |
what exactly was the tell? |
Most of the time he was getting his great hands in on the turn taking the line he took. Of course sometimes this is a T with maybe a weakish kicker or strong kicker, and sometimes its something like top set or JJ.
Considering it most of the hands he plays hes not confident hes ahead, when i checked the river intending to give up because of an aggroish image, he nearly instantly bets 2/3rds pot. I thought that with a medium hand here he actually would really have to consider whether to bet or not, but he doesnt. So I think it's either top set or a missed draw. Since there's more combos of missed draws i decide to raise. |
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Posted: Mon, 13 Aug 2007, 1:25am Post subject:
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High Card
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 14
WPP: 24
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| wufwugy wrote: | You need to work on your game selection. IMSAKIDD will eat you alive.
Seriously, though. Is he a winning player? I can't figure out how shortstacking can actually make money in today's game climate. |
I cant tell if you were being sarcastic but it made me LOL.
Guys the secret to poker is to use bold, aggressive plays and put opponents to decisions for all their chips. |
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Posted: Mon, 13 Aug 2007, 1:42am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 19 May 2006
Posts: 722
WPP: 43
Location: Philly
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Posted: Mon, 13 Aug 2007, 3:03am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 1370
WPP: 234
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| IMSAKIDD wrote: | | wufwugy wrote: | You need to work on your game selection. IMSAKIDD will eat you alive.
Seriously, though. Is he a winning player? I can't figure out how shortstacking can actually make money in today's game climate. |
I cant tell if you were being sarcastic but it made me LOL.
Guys the secret to poker is to use bold, aggressive plays and put opponents to decisions for all their chips. |
First part was a joke. Second super super serial.
I'm just really bad at shortstacking, I guess. From the looks of my results to date, I'm bad at everything but LAG. Weird. |
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Posted: Mon, 13 Aug 2007, 1:05pm Post subject:
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High Card
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
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| wufwugy wrote: |
First part was a joke. |
No I really do eat souls.
CHOOO CHOOO |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Aug 2007, 4:21am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Posts: 3253
WPP: 178
Location: at the pool
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| IMSAKIDD wrote: | | wufwugy wrote: | You need to work on your game selection. IMSAKIDD will eat you alive.
Seriously, though. Is he a winning player? I can't figure out how shortstacking can actually make money in today's game climate. |
I cant tell if you were being sarcastic but it made me LOL.
Guys the secret to poker is to use bold, aggressive plays and put opponents to decisions for all their chips. |
it's true.
proof:
| Quote: | i has a king!
PokerStars Game #11454362288: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/08/12 - 19:11:16 (ET)
Table 'Sita V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 4: TIROMPER ($736.25 in chips)
Seat 5: vilela2255 ($184.35 in chips)
Seat 6: Lukieplaya ($418.50 in chips)
TIROMPER: posts small blind $2
vilela2255: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lukieplaya [Kh Qh]
Lukieplaya: raises $10 to $14
TIROMPER: raises $45 to $59
vilela2255: folds
Lukieplaya: raises $359.50 to $418.50 and is all-in
TIROMPER: calls $359.50
*** FLOP *** [7d Kc 2d]
*** TURN *** [7d Kc 2d] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [7d Kc 2d 4d] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TIROMPER: shows [Jc Js] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Lukieplaya: shows [Kh Qh] (three of a kind, Kings)
Lukieplaya collected $840 from pot
bitchbitchbitch
laughlaughlaugh
bitchbitchbitch
laughlaughlaugh
TIROMPER: typical play right there
TIROMPER: im gettin used 2 it
Lukieplaya: unlimited hold them rewards bold aggressive play
ship ship |
by the way, stop the CHOO CHOO thing it's making me want to kill babies or something like that |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Aug 2007, 8:06pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 1370
WPP: 234
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Lukie, please tell me why you played that hand that way.
And I won't take CHOO CHOO {acronym Renton hates} for an answer. |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Aug 2007, 9:11pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
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Location: Pwnsylvania
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Posted: Tue, 21 Aug 2007, 4:03am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
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I should probably post all my 2/4 inquiries in this forum since it's deader than that drifter I killed so I could get and erection. Villian was a nit variant, and I'm proud of myself for getting max value from him. Shut up.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($398)
Button ($231.90)
SB ($228)
BB ($410.45)
UTG ($51.40)
UTG+1 ($342.20)
MP1 ($474.60)
MP2 ($236)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J , Q .
2 folds, MP1 calls $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $20, 3 folds, MP1 calls $16.
Flop: ($46) 3 , K, Q (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.
Turn: ($46) 3 (2 players)
MP1 bets $24, Hero calls $24.
River: ($94) 4 (2 players)
MP1 bets $40, Hero calls $40.
Final Pot: $174
Results in white below:
MP1 has 8c 8h (two pair, eights and threes).
Hero has Jh Qs (two pair, queens and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $174. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Aug 2007, 7:32pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6593
WPP: 74
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| That play by opp could actually mean he's potentially a very good player. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Aug 2007, 9:24pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
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WPP: 234
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Maybe.
My read is that on boards like that nits either have it or are bluffing. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Aug 2007, 8:05am Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 947
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| IowaSkinsFan wrote: | | That play by opp could actually mean he's potentially a very good player. |
Why? I think he totally donkplayed the river. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Aug 2007, 12:56pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6593
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| pocketfours wrote: | | IowaSkinsFan wrote: | | That play by opp could actually mean he's potentially a very good player. |
Why? I think he totally donkplayed the river. |
I think wufwugy's range is a lot of A high, and someone whos capable of vbetting that thin is pretty scary.
However, you're right, the play really sucked, but the thought process seemed good. |
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Posted: Sat, 13 Oct 2007, 7:29pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
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Location: trying to live
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MWAHA
he had $550 left on riv after he bet $500,
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($1457.25)
Hero ($1838)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 8.
Button raises to $30, Hero calls $20.
Flop: ($60) 2, 8, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $50, Hero raises to $150, Button calls $100.
Turn: ($360) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $200, Hero calls $200.
River: ($760) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $500, Hero raises to $1458, Button folds.
Final Pot: $1760
Results in white below:
Hero has Ac 8s (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $1760. |
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Posted: Sat, 13 Oct 2007, 8:44pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6593
WPP: 74
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Wow, i dont even know how to analyze that bluff, siiiiiccckkk
love the hawk avatar btw. |
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Posted: Sat, 13 Oct 2007, 9:34pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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| villian was 2p2 xorbie btw |
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Posted: Sat, 13 Oct 2007, 9:53pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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WPP: 74
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| gabe wrote: | | villian was 2p2 xorbie btw |
idk if its justified but i have no respect for xorbie. |
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Posted: Sat, 13 Oct 2007, 10:31pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 12:54am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 1066
WPP: 192
Location: Melbourne
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| gabe wrote: | MWAHA
he had $550 left on riv after he bet $500,
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($1457.25)
Hero ($1838)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 8.
Button raises to $30, Hero calls $20.
Flop: ($60) 2, 8, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $50, Hero raises to $150, Button calls $100.
Turn: ($360) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $200, Hero calls $200.
River: ($760) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $500, Hero raises to $1458, Button folds.
Final Pot: $1760
Results in white below:
Hero has Ac 8s (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $1760. |
shit, I just don't understand this game
what is your reasoning here? What does he have that you want to push him off that beats you and bets the river and will fold? |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 3:19am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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he put me on a certain range after flop c/r and turn c/c
he is above average player so he is value betting strong Qx hands here, because it thinks it beats my calling range
the river c/r is so small he should think that i think hesnot folding, so he should fold hands as strong as AA here, because afterall, why would i bluff with such a small ber
ofc after showing the a8 here i cant pull too many more of these for the rest of the session |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 7:19pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 947
WPP: 87
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Gabe, I have no idea wtf you are doing here. Please share...
I like his line if he has AQ, but it's obviously bad against you  |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 8:15pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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he knew his range was ahead of my range, so he was value betting
but when i pushed riv, he has to think i cant be bluffing because its such a small raise |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 9:05pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
Posts: 2425
WPP: 138
Location: My ice is polarized
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GOODNIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ha! press 111 if you remember that |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 9:32pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
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| gabe wrote: | he knew his range was ahead of my range, so he was value betting
but when i pushed riv, he has to think i cant be bluffing because its such a small raise |
Sorry I didn't see page 2 of this thread.
Yes the river is not very hard to figure out - a reasonable attack on what seems to be thin value, but what is strange here is of course the TURN!!!??? |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 9:36pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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| Triptanes wrote: | GOODNIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ha! press 111 if you remember that |
was this something recent or something old |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 9:51pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
Posts: 2425
WPP: 138
Location: My ice is polarized
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| RECENT u tilted some guy headsup @ 3/6 and he went to sleep |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Oct 2007, 10:21pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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| i remember talking shit to someone alot the other night when i was drunk and crushing some dude, buti cant press 111 because dont really remember |
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Posted: Thu, 18 Oct 2007, 12:26am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 1370
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| I pwned SobraoBoy at 1/2 the other day. Didn't he used to play 10/20 or something? |
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Posted: Thu, 25 Oct 2007, 11:30am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
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Location: right here
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Mild pwnage made better b/c villain was Paul Wasicka.
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Holdem Ring game - Blinds: $10/$20 - 6 players - Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $3711
Hero: $7037
CO: $4611
Button: $370
SB: $4842
BB: $674.50
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J  9
UTG folds, Hero raises to $70, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop: 3  T  A ($160, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $130, SB calls.
Turn: K ($420, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River: 4 ($420, 2 players)
SB bets $250, Hero raises to $950, SB folds. |
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Posted: Mon, 05 Nov 2007, 12:19pm Post subject:
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High Card
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
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| wufwugy wrote: | | I pwned SobraoBoy at 1/2 the other day. Didn't he used to play 10/20 or something? |
he played 1/2 NL back in february, then he was playing 25/50 for some time during may/june |
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Posted: Mon, 05 Nov 2007, 1:14pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 3063
WPP: 71
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| zook wrote: | Mild pwnage made better b/c villain was Paul Wasicka.
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Holdem Ring game - Blinds: $10/$20 - 6 players - Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $3711
Hero: $7037
CO: $4611
Button: $370
SB: $4842
BB: $674.50
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J 9
UTG folds, Hero raises to $70, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop: 3 T A ($160, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $130, SB calls.
Turn: K ($420, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River: 4 ($420, 2 players)
SB bets $250, Hero raises to $950, SB folds. |
fwiw against a good hand reader you're probably gonna get called. |
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Posted: Mon, 05 Nov 2007, 1:46pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7833
WPP: 52
Location: trying to live
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| why? not everyone double barrels all their fds |
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Posted: Tue, 06 Nov 2007, 2:34pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 3063
WPP: 71
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| gabe wrote: | | why? not everyone double barrels all their fds |
Yes... but this seems like a good board to double barrel a lone FD. I guess that doesn't mean everyones gonna do it though... |
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Posted: Tue, 06 Nov 2007, 2:46pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6593
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| I think your on a few levels too low. Wasicka isnt expecting zook to bluff in this spot. |
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