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chipfiddler
Post Posted: Fri, 30 Sep 2005, 5:03pm    Post subject: Hello and a question, well two actually Reply with quote
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Was reading that post about what makes a great player last night, then I played a hand today that i would probably have folded usually. Nice one rippytide you won me a decent pot. If your interested here it is.

Hand #108947722 at table: Table TH 395
Started: Fri Sep 30 17:04:10 2005

JmhKmh is at seat 1 with 0.00
meisseli is at seat 2 with 9.80
oszti is at seat 3 with 6.15
saddlerman is at seat 4 with 11.15
Hineck is at seat 6 with 10.62
Titus is at seat 7 with 4.70
Guppie is at seat 8 with 9.72
dtibor is at seat 9 with 0.30
sakirpasam is at seat 10 with 19.90

Hineck posts the large blind 0.10
saddlerman posts the small blind 0.05

saddlerman: 9s, 9d
Hineck: --, --
Titus: --, --
Guppie: --, --
dtibor: --, --
sakirpasam: --, --
meisseli: --, --
oszti: --, --

Pre-flop:

Titus: Fold
Guppie: Call 0.10
dtibor: Fold
sakirpasam: Call 0.10
meisseli: Fold
oszti: Call 0.10
saddlerman: Call 0.10
Hineck: Raise 0.20
Guppie: Call 0.20
sakirpasam: Call 0.20
oszti: Call 0.20
saddlerman: Raise 0.40
Hineck: Raise 0.60
Guppie: Call 0.60
sakirpasam: Call 0.60
oszti: Call 0.60
saddlerman: Call 0.60

Flop (Board: Kh, 5c, 3c):

saddlerman: Check
Hineck: Check
Guppie: Check
sakirpasam: Bet 1.00
oszti: Fold
saddlerman: Call 1.00
Hineck: Call 1.00
Guppie: Fold

Turn (Board: Kh, 5c, 3c, 5h):

saddlerman: Bet 0.50
Hineck: Call 0.50
sakirpasam: Call 0.50

River (Board: Kh, 5c, 3c, 5h, 9c):

saddlerman: Check
Hineck: Bet 1.10
sakirpasam: Raise 9.30
saddlerman: All in
Hineck: All in

Showdown:

sakirpasam shows: 6c, Jc (Jack high flush)
saddlerman shows: 9s, 9d (full house)

Sidepot 2:
saddlerman wins the pot of 0.01 with full house

Hineck shows: Ac, Qc (ace high flush)

Mainpot:
saddlerman wins the pot of 32.61 with full house

(1.70 rake were taken for this hand)


Guessed I was ok when they just called my small bet on the turn, and my play on the river was questionable, is this how you would play such an awesome hand?

Shame you don't get rivers like that every day, well unless you play for like 10 hours Smile

Chased a straight later, this always confuses me a bit and I'd like to know your thoughts on this example.

Hand #109155144 at table: Table TH Mini
Started: Fri Sep 30 23:49:54 2005

craggie is at seat 1 with 9.80
georgey77 is at seat 2 with 20.10
MCTINTO1 is at seat 3 with 10.58
cikapane is at seat 4 with 8.92
meelie is at seat 5 with 13.62
bullet08 is at seat 6 with 8.73
saddlerman is at seat 7 with 9.90
Fargle is at seat 8 with 9.90
altern8 is at seat 9 with 23.03
slagteren is at seat 10 with 19.48

craggie posts the large blind 0.10
slagteren posts the small blind 0.05

slagteren: --, --
craggie: --, --
georgey77: --, --
MCTINTO1: --, --
cikapane: --, --
meelie: --, --
bullet08: --, --
saddlerman: 8s, 9c
Fargle: --, --
altern8: --, --

Pre-flop:

georgey77: Fold
MCTINTO1: Call 0.10
cikapane: Call 0.10
meelie: Call 0.10
bullet08: Call 0.10
saddlerman: Check
Fargle: Check
altern8: Fold
slagteren: Call 0.10
craggie: Check

Flop (Board: 7d, 6c, Qs):

slagteren: Bet 0.10
craggie: Call 0.10
MCTINTO1: Call 0.10
cikapane: Call 0.10
meelie: Fold
bullet08: Call 0.10
saddlerman: Raise 0.30
Fargle: Fold
slagteren: Call 0.30
craggie: Call 0.30
MCTINTO1: Call 0.30
cikapane: Fold
bullet08: Call 0.30

Turn (Board: 7d, 6c, Qs, 4d):

slagteren: Check
craggie: Check
MCTINTO1: Check
bullet08: Check
saddlerman: Bet 0.30
slagteren: Call 0.30
craggie: Call 0.30
MCTINTO1: Call 0.30
bullet08: Call 0.30

River (Board: 7d, 6c, Qs, 4d, Jh):

slagteren: Check
craggie: Check
MCTINTO1: Check
bullet08: Check
saddlerman: Check

Showdown:

slagteren shows: 5c, Ac (high card, Ace)
bullet08 shows: Qd, 8d (a pair of Queens)

This was first up, but, do you think it would be worth betting more on the turn and trying to bluff it? I pretty much just try and pay the odds often. Feared a queen'd call me down.

Great site guys cheers
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Post Posted: Fri, 30 Sep 2005, 5:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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saddlerman: Bet 0.50

I'm curious, why did you lead out with half of the flop's bet on the turn? To a more agressive opp, that'll signal weakness and they'll put in a bet you can't call, regardless of holdings.

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This was first up, but, do you think it would be worth betting more on the turn and trying to bluff it? I pretty much just try and pay the odds often. Feared a queen'd call me down.

Certainly not because of the stakes, doubly not because of the number of opponents. You'd probably be called by a pair of 6's.
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Post Posted: Fri, 30 Sep 2005, 6:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm curious, why did you lead out with half of the flop's bet on the turn? To a more agressive opp, that'll signal weakness and they'll put in a bet you can't call, regardless of holdings.


So would the correct play be to check and fold to a bet? I figured a smaller bet would be raised by a set or a king and I would have folded there and then if it were substantial. I thought the fact they called indicated they were on a flush draw.
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Post Posted: Fri, 30 Sep 2005, 8:13pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Check/fold would be one way, sure. Another would be to come out with a sizeable bet to represent you tripped up on 5s with the hopes that a better hand will fold.
As it played out, sakirpasam made a big mistake just calling the turn - you were afraid of his possible holdings and displayed weakness to him, but instead of attacking that he showed more weakness back at you. I wonder what Hineck had? A weak king perhaps?
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