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Posted: Thu, 30 Jun 2005, 5:18pm Post subject: Have you ever played against someone who only goes all in?
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3-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 May 2005
Posts: 51 WPP: 124
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So I am in a $50 buy-in MTT last night.
I am stuck at a table for a couple of hours with this idiot who only knows one move.....all-in. Thats it, that is all he does when he plays a hand. Of course he got me off one or two good hands early on when I didnt know this was how he played. Unforunately for me, I didnt get many good hands after that, so I couldnt take him out. Those that did call him got unlucky, saw Mr. All-IN get lucky on the turn multiple times when he was the dog, and suck out on the river twice.
I know what I should do agaisnt him, but man, what an aggraviting style to play against. Do you really want to risk your tournament life with a pair of 10's or a A-9 suited?
Just wondering if you have run across someone like this. BTW, I am not saying he went all-in alot of the time. NO, honest to god, when he was in hand he went all-in every single time, either pre-flop or post flop. It never got past that. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Jun 2005, 6:03pm Post subject:
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Straight

Joined: 23 May 2005
Posts: 156 WPP: 203
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I have run into this a couple of times in my limited experience.
Most times I wait for the guy to flame out, which always happens, and then get back to the game at hand. Otherwise, I wait till I have position on him, so I can see what he is going to do that hand. If I can limp into a hand to see a flop, and then hit something good, I would call the AI bet he makes postflop. Otherwise, if he is going AI preflop, I am only calling with AA, KK, and maybe QQ - but probably not even QQ.
That's how I have handled it. There is no use getting frustrated and making any rash moves. |
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Posted: Thu, 30 Jun 2005, 8:07pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 May 2005
Posts: 51 WPP: 124
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| What really sucked was that he was 2 to my left. So I rarely had a chance to see what he does first. We were also at table #2 of the MTT, so neither of us were ever moved during the tournament. I had him at my table, in that position the whole damn tourney. |
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Posted: Mon, 04 Jul 2005, 2:31am Post subject:
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Straight

Joined: 06 Mar 2005
Posts: 172 WPP: 61
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| Doesn't Gamboholic_ do this on Party? She has been winning a lot lately too... |
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Posted: Tue, 05 Jul 2005, 5:46am Post subject:
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Straight

Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Posts: 163 WPP: 171
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This can be rough if they have position on you particularly if their VPIP is high, but in a full nine handed game this is a pretty suicidal betting style.
There's three options that I see:
1. Wait for the goods.
2. Figure out his VPIP and basically distill down the cards he's pushing with. If he's pushing with K10s/QJs and on up and then figure out when you got a high percentage against him and gamble a bit. If you win or split you're going to send a strong message to fuck off and he's likely not going to keep pushing on you with junk.
3. If he's intelligent about this strategy he might push with shit or push with middle pair or top pair weaker kicker.. but he's likely not to call wtih it. So play back at him and don't give him two ways to win the hand, push first. You'll be able to know in a few orbits of not pushing if he's the gambler type who is going to call an all in with shit just like he'll push with shit, or if he's just aggressive and really doesn't want calls when he pushes. |
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Posted: Tue, 05 Jul 2005, 2:44pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 1132 WPP: 109
Location: People let me tell you about my best friends...
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I've run into these players in MTT's before. I usually just hunker down and avoid them, waiting for a premium holding and playing ultra aggressive when that player is not in the hand. No reason to play table cop if it costs you your life.
Try this some time...sit down and play his style and see how the table reacts. It's quite hilarious to see from the aggressors standpoint how different people respond...many start bitching and threatening to come find you, others tilt out lowering their starting hand standards quite dramatically, others just hide. I've done this a couple times, and if I am reasonably smart about my AI's and combine it with some annoying chat, it's amazing how easy it is to double up.
So, don't let him tilt you into making a bad decision, 'cause that's what he's after. Many people get all frustrated and start lowering their standards unnecessarily...don't do it. |
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Posted: Wed, 06 Jul 2005, 1:23pm Post subject:
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High Card

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 6 WPP: 49
Location: Burnley lancashire england
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| i played that style when i first discoverd i couldn't multi table at Pacific and had a better tourney to be in. got busted in 4th in a 10 man sng but enjoyed annoying people to much to care about the $10. it also helped me tighten up for the mtt where i finished 58 out of 860, think i got any rash betting out of my system. |
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Posted: Wed, 06 Jul 2005, 3:53pm Post subject:
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One Pair

Joined: 21 Mar 2005
Posts: 20 WPP: 91
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All-ins is actually a resonable strategy if you play tight, don't get any good hands so you fall behind with the stack at a crazy table. The blinds get high enough that you steal a few pushing with hands like KQ. Then if you have a gambler image you push your high pairs as well.
I have used this a number of times, adapting to the flow of the game, and it works pretty well. If a good player is doing this, don't get involved unless you have a premium hand. Do some stealing of your own when the right situation arises. |
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Posted: Thu, 07 Jul 2005, 10:20am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 20 May 2005
Posts: 614 WPP: 91
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With an all-in player you need to just tighten up and only play AA, KK and AK. Let someone else catch him (or get caught themselves). Keep in mind that even when he's not in a hand, you should still play tight because the rest of the table will be playing tight and your QJ will be weak against most hands. If you do get a big hand and you are ahead in position, you should raise the hand hard. If he has a hand he may push, to get action, and you can trap him.
I have yet to see a player with the style finish in the money. It probably happens, but not yet in my experience. |
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