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Posted: Sun, 27 Aug 2006, 8:20pm Post subject: H0H1 Part 6-1 Discussion |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
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Just covering Part 6 up to p. 285 this week. I don't have much this week, so add your own questions or comments if you have any.
1. After raising AA UTG and getting one caller, Harrington recommends check/calling a QJT rainbow flop. What do you think of this?
2. After raising KK UTG and getting two callers, he says that checking a board of AQJ rainbow is "out of the question". Do you agree? How do you play this?
3. A couple of times he advocates "letting others take the lead in the betting" when you flop monsters. I wish he had been a little more specific. Two examples he gives are JsTs limped behind two limpers with one more caller behind, flop comes AsKdQh. Another is 66 open-limped from MP with button and SB calling and BB checking, flop comes AQ6 rainbow. How do you feel about his advice? How do you play here? |
Last edited by zook on Tue, 26 Dec 2006, 4:26pm; edited 2 times in total
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Posted: Mon, 28 Aug 2006, 12:01am Post subject: |
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1. I agree that QJT is not a flop we like to see with our AA after a player behind us called our 4x big blind pre-flop raise. All the high cards did not hit us but may have helped our opponent. He could already have a straight with AK. That said, just because we don't like the flop does not automatically mean we would never bet at it. Hard to say what I would do here but I can see why Harrington advises check/call.
2. Unlike the AA hand, this time we 2 callers behind us instead of 1 with our KK hand. As Harrington says, | Quote: | | Your alarm bells need to go off when an ace flops. [HOH1 pg 270] | The flop comes down AQT so we're not happy. Harrington says that checking is out of the question here because it will leave us with no idea where we stand if the pot eventually gets bet. I agree that we want to find out early rather than later where we stand when an over card comes on board. Harrington says to lead out with a good-sized bet of about two-thirds of the pot. Depending on my 2 opponents and other variables, I still might check here even though it means missing out on information. If I bet and get called then I'm checking the rest of the way(unless J or K comes) and if I get re-raised then I fold even though the pot odds are tempting.
3. We have JT suited and flop the straight with AKQ rainbow. We're third to act after the flop and Harrington says to let the other players take the lead in the betting. If it comes check check to me then I might put in a small bet here if I feel the button is unlikely to use his position and bet for me. |
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Posted: Sat, 02 Sep 2006, 12:36am Post subject: |
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I can't wait until we start covering HOH2. Today I was re-reading it and came across one of my favorite quotes: | Quote: | | Your objective when you play poker is to win your opponent's money, not to demonstrate how clever you are. [HOH2 pg 102] |
Sounds obvious but players forget this at times. I think part of the reason some over-emphasize the "clever" aspect is because of the way poker is edited for tv. |
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