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Genitruc
Post Posted: Fri, 23 Feb 2007, 6:26am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm playing but I'm looking to play more and post less.

So hopefully I won't post here until I get to nl1k Smile
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Play more hands dudeeeeeeeeee.
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Post Posted: Sat, 24 Feb 2007, 5:12am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What are these "hands" you speak of?
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Post Posted: Wed, 03 Oct 2007, 12:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Since getting back from a summer trip, I've made some decent cash at nl200 with a BR that is a little too small for me to feel comfortable at nl400 (I'm a huge BR nit).

Over the past few days, however, I feel like I've been playing a little spewy and unfocussed so I've decided to take a 6 buy-in shot at nl400. If I bust, oh well ; I'll still be comfortably rolled for nl200.

If, on the other hand, I go robusto, then the sky's the limit. I feel like I've had the hand-reading skills and meta-game awareness necessary for bigger games for a while now but a mixture of not playing enough, running like shit for my past 50k hands or so and general fear of making and losing big sums of $ has kept me away from playing a bunch and moving up.

So this thread will be resurrected for a little while. I'm hesitant to do this because when I get this kind of thing going I usually spend too much time posting stuff and not enough time playing. Hopefully I can avoid avoiding the tables and put in a lot of hands with a few updates here and there.

Instead of chronicling all of my big hands, I'll be using this simply to illustrate some basic concepts through spots where I play "unstandard" or simply think through tough situations.

Any comments or questions are cool.

Here are a few hands from my first session :

1: Fold your draw, I have a big pair!

Seat 5: HERO ( $400 USD )
Seat 4: draglio ( $202.43 USD )
Seat 6: yerlikaya ( $390 USD )
Seat 3: josef61 ( $392 USD )
Seat 1: GrevBolle ( $400 USD )
yerlikaya posts small blind [$2 USD].
GrevBolle posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Jack of Spades Nine of Clubs

josef61 calls [$4 USD]
draglio calls [$4 USD]
HERO raises [$22 USD]
yerlikaya folds.
GrevBolle calls [$18 USD]
josef61 folds.
draglio folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Six of Hearts Queen of Hearts Six of Clubs

GrevBolle checks.
HERO bets [$45 USD]
GrevBolle calls [$45 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Four of Spades

GrevBolle checks.
HERO bets [$126 USD]
GrevBolle folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins $268 USD

2: Using position vs a super-tight opener

-Villain is about 11/5
-Reasons for the flop call : huge implied odds if villain has a big pair, bluffing scare cards on turn/river, villain will likely just check-fold if he has AK so plan is to bet river if villain checks twice on turn/river

Seat 6: Furlong16 ( $664.30 USD )
Seat 1: HERO ( $445.60 USD )
Seat 3: Puksar ( $204.53 USD )
Seat 2: yerlikaya ( $380 USD )
Seat 4: upskirtfun ( $457 USD )
Seat 5: Kruger188 ( $70 USD )
Puksar posts small blind [$2 USD].
upskirtfun posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Ace of Spades Five of Spades
Kruger188 folds.
Furlong16 raises [$15 USD]
HERO calls [$15 USD]
yerlikaya calls [$15 USD]
Puksar folds.
upskirtfun folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Two of Diamonds Four of Spades Queen of Hearts

Furlong16 bets [$25 USD]
HERO calls [$25 USD]
yerlikaya folds.

** Dealing Turn ** Four of Clubs

Furlong16 checks.
HERO checks.

** Dealing River ** Eight of Diamonds

Furlong16 checks.
HERO bets [$65 USD]
Furlong16 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins $163 USD


3: Crying call. Well played by villain. Flop check to not get bet off my gutter (villain runs around 21/12, flop connected pretty big with his range) and possibly pick up a back-door draw.

Seat 6: Furlong16 ( $294.50 USD )
Seat 1: HERO ( $445.80 USD )
Seat 3: Puksar ( $274.60 USD )
Seat 2: yerlikaya ( $418 USD )
Seat 4: upskirtfun ( $406 USD )
Seat 5: Kruger188 ( $88 USD )
Puksar posts small blind [$2 USD].
upskirtfun posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Five of Diamonds Four of Diamonds
Kruger188 folds.
Furlong16 folds.
HERO raises [$14 USD]
yerlikaya folds.
Puksar calls [$12 USD]
upskirtfun folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Six of Diamonds Eight of Spades Nine of Hearts

Puksar checks.
HERO checks.

** Dealing Turn ** Seven of Spades

Puksar checks.
HERO bets [$22 USD]
Puksar calls [$22 USD]

** Dealing River ** Three of Hearts

Puksar bets [$73 USD]
HERO calls [$73 USD]
Puksar shows [ Td, Th ]a straight Six to Ten.
HERO doesn't show [ 5d, 4d ]a straight Five to Nine.
Puksar wins $219 USD from the main pot with a straight, Six to Ten.


4: Playing weak.

Villain is very aggro 32/30 preflop. Cold-calling from the blinds makes me think that his range is almost 100% PP's (lots of ppl who reraise light love doing it with SC's). By checking behind on the flop, I feel that I'm letting him draw to two outs. 99 is almost certainly a 3-bet pre, so the only big hand that I'm making a mistake checking behind to is 55. If he has 22-44 then I can almost definitely get him to call 1 bet, sometimes two since he'll have a tough time putting me on a big pair when I check behind on this flop. As played river is bleh. He doesn't have J-x in his range usually so he either has a small pair turned into a strange bluff or a boat.

Table Table 130473 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 6: Furlong16 ( $427.40 USD )
Seat 1: HERO ( $537.60 USD )
Seat 3: Puksar ( $377.10 USD )
Seat 2: yerlikaya ( $406 USD )
Seat 4: upskirtfun ( $358 USD )
Seat 5: Kruger188 ( $82 USD )
upskirtfun posts small blind [$2 USD].
Kruger188 posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO King of Diamonds King of Spades
Furlong16 folds.
HERO raises [$14 USD]
yerlikaya folds.
Puksar folds.
upskirtfun calls [$12 USD]
Kruger188 folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Eight of Spades Six of Hearts Seven of Hearts

upskirtfun checks.
HERO checks.

** Dealing Turn ** Jack of Hearts

upskirtfun bets [$28 USD]
HERO calls [$28 USD]

** Dealing River ** Jack of Spades

upskirtfun bets [$50 USD]
HERO calls [$50 USD]
upskirtfun shows Seven of Diamonds Seven of Spades a full house, Sevens full of Jacks.
HERO doesn't show King of Diamonds King of Spades two pairs, Kings and Jacks.
upskirtfun wins $185 USD from the main pot with a full house, Sevens full of Jacks.

5 : Bringing out the heavy lumber.

For the first few sessions of my shot-taking, I'm planning on playing pretty nitty preflop. I much prefer a laggy style, but I'll be doing some things with my nitty image that I would never do when playing lagg. Like repping a set :


Seat 6: Furlong16 ( $396 USD )
Seat 1: HERO ( $412.60 USD )
Seat 3: Puksar ( $378.60 USD )
Seat 2: yerlikaya ( $394 USD )
Seat 4: upskirtfun ( $426 USD )
Seat 5: Kruger188 ( $88 USD )
Furlong16 posts small blind [$2 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Nine of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds
yerlikaya folds.
Puksar calls [$4 USD]
upskirtfun raises [$18 USD]
Kruger188 folds.
Furlong16 folds.
HERO calls [$14 USD]
Puksar calls [$14 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** Queen of Hearts Nine of Spades Seven of Clubs

HERO checks.
Puksar bets [$24 USD]
upskirtfun raises [$82 USD]
HERO raises [$256 USD]
Puksar folds.
upskirtfun folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins $415 USD
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Vi-Zer0Skill
Post Posted: Wed, 03 Oct 2007, 6:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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the last hand you posted is awesome. I wouldn't have even thought to try that (i actually have a chronically TAGGy image so this may be a good play i can use on a semi-regular basis). But i would probably prefer two cards lower than a 9 on the flop to make it as believable as possible.

Good luck! Is motivating yourself to play a problem for you anymore?
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Post Posted: Wed, 03 Oct 2007, 10:47pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Vi-Zer0Skill wrote:
Is motivating yourself to play a problem for you anymore?
Motivating myself to play isn't a problem at all for the moment. I've been playing close to 1k hands about 5 or 6 days/week since getting back.

While moving up, I'm expecting to be a little paranoid about always bringing my A game. I'll probably keep my sessions short (2 or 3 blocks of a cpl hundred hands/day) until I really settle into the level and - hopefully - make a few buyins to reach a BR comfort zone.
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Post Posted: Wed, 03 Oct 2007, 11:11pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Last hand is sick...I just never pull these moves b/c i assume my opponents are donkeys, which they usually are.

I like it though, but like V-Z said I prefer if the flop was like 972 instead. Not a big diff tho. NH GL
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Post Posted: Thu, 04 Oct 2007, 10:41am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hand 1: Your hand reading on that hand sucks. Are you serious? "Fold your draw!"??? The guys range has so many pp's its not even funny. I like the bet but the reasoning of fold your draw is bad, yeah thats part of it but idk i can fire the river if he calls the turn.
Hand 2: Idk if I like the river bet. He has to fold 50% of his range that you don't already beat (the splits make this a lot more complicated).
Hand 3: I don't doubt you can fold the river, I probably do.
Hand 4: fun, its good/fine.
Hand 5: Interesting logic.
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Post Posted: Thu, 04 Oct 2007, 11:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yea Conor, I was going to say the same stuff as Alex and ZeroSkill. In that hand you really are only repping 777, even playing nitty, wouldnt you 3bet 99 pf? These are moves Ive recently incorporated into my game and they seem to be working well against thinking players.

Any interest in making a bet in terms of either money won [Absolute money won, money per hand, BB per hand, etc] or hands played [Absolute hands, hours played, whatever]? I think something like that would be fun and def helpful to both of us as it would make us interact more and really discuss poker more than we do.

Also, I sent that $40 to you on FT like a month ago, not sure if you have logged into that account in awhile though.
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Post Posted: Thu, 04 Oct 2007, 6:04pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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re : ISF

ya u r right about the hand I 2 barreled, he has a hand like 88 almost all of the time. Whether it was a bare FD with low cards or a mid PP it just seemed obvious he would be hard-pressed to call.

Regarding the river bet vs the nit, his stats just seemed so bad... Usually those players are incapable of calling river bets without at least top pair.

Andy I got the cash on FTP thx. I'll PM you about some sort of prop bet since I'm not sure I want to do it but I'd love to talk about things regardless.

Today I felt kind of timid so I just played a little at nl200.

Here is the only really interesting spot :

I tried as hard as I could, but I couldn't put villain on 2 cards that value-shove the turn.

Seat 1: LoveMJackson ( $180.50 USD )
Seat 2: odoho ( $206.80 USD )
Seat 4: gang_up ( $0 USD )
Seat 6: HERO ( $200 USD )
Seat 5: paperboat52 ( $0 USD )
LoveMJackson posts small blind [$1 USD].
odoho posts big blind [$2 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Three of Hearts Six of Hearts
paperboat52 has joined the table.
HERO raises [$7 USD]
LoveMJackson raises [$23 USD]
odoho folds.
HERO calls [$17 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** Five of Diamonds Six of Diamonds Eight of Hearts

LoveMJackson checks.
HERO bets [$41 USD]
LoveMJackson calls [$41 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Seven of Spades

LoveMJackson is all-In.
HERO calls [$115.50 USD]

** Dealing River ** Seven of Clubs

LoveMJackson shows King of Diamonds Ace of Clubs a pair of Sevens.
HERO shows Three of Hearts Six of Hearts two pairs, Sevens and Sixes.
HERO wins $362 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Sevens and Sixes.
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Didn't flip very well today vs shorties :



Table Table 127885 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 5: killer_be_99 ( $793.58 USD )
Seat 4: HERO ( $400 USD )
Seat 2: ahrefte ( $800 USD )
Seat 1: mare12111 ( $114 USD )
Seat 3: minez12 ( $396 USD )
minez12 posts small blind [$2 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Ace of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds
killer_be_99 raises [$12 USD]
mare12111 raises [$32 USD]
ahrefte folds.
minez12 folds.
HERO raises [$85 USD]
killer_be_99 folds.
mare12111 is all-In.
HERO calls [$25 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** Jack of Diamonds Queen of Clubs Seven of Clubs
** Dealing Turn ** Seven of Spades
** Dealing River ** Two of Diamonds
HERO shows Ace of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds a pair of Sevens.
mare12111 shows Three of Clubs Three of Diamonds two pairs, Sevens and Threes.
mare12111 wins $240 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Sevens and Threes.


Table Table 127885 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 5: killer_be_99 ( $759.58 USD )
Seat 6: TopTrips ( $245.57 USD )
Seat 4: HERO ( $444 USD )
Seat 2: ahrefte ( $596 USD )
Seat 1: mare12111 ( $100 USD )
HERO posts small blind [$2 USD].
killer_be_99 posts big blind [$4 USD].
mare12111 posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Ace of Clubs Queen of Hearts
TopTrips folds.
minez12 has joined the table.
mare12111 raises [$8 USD]
ahrefte folds.
HERO raises [$37 USD]
killer_be_99 folds.
mare12111 is all-In.
HERO calls [$61 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** Nine of Clubs Ten of Diamonds King of Diamonds
** Dealing Turn ** Two of Hearts
** Dealing River ** King of Spades
HERO shows Ace of Clubs Queen of Hearts a pair of Kings.
mare12111 shows Eight of Hearts Eight of Clubs two pairs, Kings and Eights.
mare12111 wins $202 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Kings and Eights.

Table Table 126755 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 4: badcynthia ( $94 USD )
Seat 6: rodeoendo ( $501.60 USD )
Seat 3: HERO ( $380 USD )
Seat 1: chx43 ( $82 USD )
Seat 5: ahrefte ( $400 USD )
badcynthia posts small blind [$2 USD].
ahrefte posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Ace of Spades Jack of Diamonds
rodeoendo calls [$4 USD]
chx43 calls [$4 USD]
HERO raises [$22 USD]
badcynthia folds.
ahrefte folds.
rodeoendo calls [$18 USD]
chx43 is all-In.
CarlosBo has joined the table.
HERO is all-In.
rodeoendo folds.
** Dealing Flop ** Ace of Hearts Five of Hearts Queen of Clubs
** Dealing Turn ** Four of Hearts
** Dealing River ** King of Spades
HERO shows Ace of Spades Jack of Diamonds a pair of Aces.
chx43 shows Queen of Diamonds Four of Diamonds two pairs, Queens and Fours.
HERO wins $298 USD from side pot #1 with a pair of Aces.
chx43 wins $190 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Queens and Fours.

Pretty big bluff here. Looked like villain had 88-JJ ish. Def risky since there are so few big hands I can rep :

Table Table 127747 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: hx032 ( $221.90 USD )
Seat 5: WZRX5 ( $392 USD )
Seat 6: HERO ( $443.40 USD )
Seat 2: chx43 ( $148 USD )
Seat 3: THEFONZ13 ( $245.26 USD )
Seat 1: rara81 ( $80 USD )
WZRX5 posts small blind [$2 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Jack of Spades Nine of Clubs
rara81 folds.
chx43 folds.
THEFONZ13 calls [$4 USD]
hx032 calls [$4 USD]
WZRX5 raises [$20 USD]
HERO calls [$18 USD]
THEFONZ13 folds.
hx032 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** Ten of Diamonds Two of Hearts Ten of Hearts
WZRX5 bets [$32 USD]
HERO calls [$32 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** Three of Spades
WZRX5 checks.
HERO bets [$65 USD]
WZRX5 calls [$65 USD]
** Dealing River ** Queen of Diamonds
WZRX5 checks.
HERO bets [$244 USD]
WZRX5 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins $487 USD


2 hands vs the same guy; 32/28 type, almost sure his cold-call pre means low connectors/SC's or PP so no point really in raising anywhere :

Table Table 129236 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: HERO ( $591.80 USD )
Seat 6: meikel_z ( $384 USD )
Seat 1: uzuckbigtime ( $375 USD )
Seat 4: jontekan ( $446.40 USD )
Seat 5: jammybarha ( $424.30 USD )
Seat 3: Trollmor_ ( $117.60 USD )
jontekan posts small blind [$2 USD].
jammybarha is sitting out
meikel_z posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Jack of Spades Ten of Clubs
uzuckbigtime folds.
jammybarha has left the table.
HERO raises [$14 USD]
Trollmor_ folds.
jontekan calls [$12 USD]
meikel_z folds.
** Dealing Flop ** Three of Spades Jack of Clubs Eight of Diamonds
jontekan checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing Turn ** Ten of Hearts
jontekan bets [$24 USD]
HERO calls [$24 USD]
** Dealing River ** Six of Diamonds
jontekan bets [$52 USD]
fu_sharks has joined the table.
HERO calls [$52 USD]
jontekan shows Six of Clubs Seven of Clubs a pair of Sixes.
HERO shows Jack of Spades Ten of Clubs two pairs, Jacks and Tens.
HERO wins $182 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Jacks and Tens.

Because of the aggression villain showed in 1st hand after a flop check, I figured river check was superior to shove. Also bet the turn because I felt I might get bluff-raised by a big diamond :

Table Table 129236 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: HERO ( $716.30 USD )
Seat 6: meikel_z ( $501.20 USD )
Seat 1: uzuckbigtime ( $396 USD )
Seat 4: jontekan ( $248.40 USD )
Seat 3: Trollmor_ ( $95.60 USD )
uzuckbigtime posts small blind [$2 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Nine of Clubs Ten of Clubs
Trollmor_ folds.
jontekan raises [$16 USD]
meikel_z folds.
uzuckbigtime folds.
HERO calls [$12 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** Seven of Diamonds Nine of Diamonds Three of Spades
HERO checks.
jontekan checks.
** Dealing Turn ** Eight of Diamonds
HERO bets [$24 USD]
jontekan raises [$60 USD]
HERO calls [$36 USD]
** Dealing River ** Six of Hearts
HERO checks.
jontekan is all-In.
HERO calls [$172.40 USD]
HERO shows Nine of Clubs Ten of Clubs a straight Six to Ten.
jontekan doesn't show Five of Spades Six of Spades a straight Five to Nine.
HERO wins $496.80 USD from the main pot with a straight, Six to Ten.

oops...


Finally a few standard aggro hands :

Here I had been punishing quite a bit vs this guy running at 47/0. Felt like the lead was more him getting frustrated than building a pot with a real hand :

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: badcynthia ( $111.70 USD )
Seat 6: rodeoendo ( $491.80 USD )
Seat 3: HERO ( $406 USD )
Seat 1: chx43 ( $264.40 USD )
Seat 5: ahrefte ( $389.60 USD )
Seat 2: CarlosBo ( $384 USD )
badcynthia posts small blind [$2 USD].
ahrefte posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Jack of Hearts Nine of Hearts
rodeoendo calls [$4 USD]
chx43 folds.
CarlosBo folds.
HERO raises [$18 USD]
badcynthia folds.
ahrefte folds.
rodeoendo calls [$14 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** Queen of Diamonds Eight of Clubs Four of Clubs
rodeoendo bets [$40 USD]
HERO raises [$112 USD]
rodeoendo folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins $191 USD


This last one may seem trivial but I put a lot of thought into the turn decision :

Table Table 125497 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: sinsengutta1 ( $181.80 USD )
Seat 2: hor_pow ( $408.50 USD )
Seat 3: WZRX5 ( $394 USD )
Seat 4: HERO ( $437.10 USD )
Seat 5: perileks7 ( $219.54 USD )
Seat 6: Bratzkolino ( $426 USD )
HERO posts small blind [$2 USD].
perileks7 posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Nine of Diamonds Seven of Clubs
Bratzkolino folds.
sinsengutta1 calls [$4 USD]
hor_pow folds.
WZRX5 folds.
HERO calls [$2 USD]
perileks7 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** Six of Hearts Eight of Spades Seven of Spades
HERO bets [$12 USD]
perileks7 calls [$12 USD]
sinsengutta1 calls [$12 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** Queen of Diamonds
HERO bets [$31 USD]
perileks7 folds.
sinsengutta1 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins $76.60 USD
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i here ya, on losing the nerve. Losing playmoney is a lot less stressful
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Went against all of my rules today, playing some pretty sloppy poker at nl200 when I felt tired. Lost 6 buyins in just over 1.2k hands. Kinda wanna throw up.

I would much prefer to lose this $ playing focussed poker at nl400 but... bleh.

My biggest leak is not wanting to challenge myself and risk losing significant money.

I felt great and played great after playing a few short sessions at nl400 with somewhat scared money. I played with tremendous focus and this carried over even when I played down at nl200.

After missing a few days because of being sick, I pussed out and played nl200 on hardly any sleep. I should have either had some coffe and forced myself to play at a level that scares me, played super low-stakes if all i wanted was to have fun, or not played at all.

Hopefully I can learn from this. The money flying around at nl200 doesn't scare me at all. For whatever reason losing a buy in just makes me want to play looser and outplay ppl post flop, which is what gives me a kick.

If that's how I'm going to approach things, I might as well just play nl25, see every flop, and have fun.

I can't say I played horribly or anything, but there were a few things that I wouldn't have done out of fear at nl400 that ended up costing me pretty big at nl200.

Of course, it didn't help to win less than 40% of showdowns and there were a few shitty hands like these two where I don't mind my play at all :

-Hmmm…

Seat 3: HERO ( $492.75 USD )
Seat 2: AL18AL ( $64.35 USD )
Seat 5: Doeks111 ( $210.19 USD )
Seat 4: Verichip ( $263.50 USD )
Seat 1: bakkki1 ( $202 USD )
Seat 6: youngr50 ( $200 USD )
Doeks111 posts small blind [$1 USD].
bakkki1 is sitting out
AL18AL posts big blind [$2 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Eight of Hearts Ten of Hearts

bakkki1 has left the table.
HERO raises [$7 USD]
Verichip folds.
Doeks111 calls [$6 USD]
AL18AL folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Nine of Hearts Six of Hearts Three of Diamonds

Doeks111 bets [$11 USD]
HERO raises [$41 USD]
Doeks111 calls [$30 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Ace of Spades

Doeks111 bets [$62 USD]
HERO is all-In.
Doeks111 is all-In.

** Dealing River ** Queen of Clubs

Doeks111 shows Jack of Clubs Nine of Clubs a pair of Nines.
HERO shows Eight of Hearts Ten of Hearts high card Ace.
The time at which hand ended:Oct 14 2007 12:43 ET
HERO wins $282.56 USD from side pot #1 with high card, Ace.
Doeks111 wins $419.88 USD from the main pot with a pair of Nines.


-Very nice call dood. Felt like he was slightly stronger but would lay it down. If he bet planning to call a push his play is sick :

Seat 4: u4815162342 ( $203.85 USD )
Seat 5: HERO ( $210.60 USD )
Seat 6: judecolman ( $54.49 USD )
Seat 1: chrisavoc ( $144 USD )
Seat 3: roesti49 ( $172.56 USD )
Seat 2: vesselACE ( $200 USD )
u4815162342 posts small blind [$1 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Ace of Spades Two of Spades
chrisavoc folds.
vesselACE folds.
roesti49 calls [$2 USD]
u4815162342 raises [$12 USD]
HERO calls [$11 USD]
roesti49 calls [$11 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** Five of Clubs Queen of Spades Queen of Clubs
u4815162342 bets [$22 USD]
HERO calls [$22 USD]
roesti49 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** Nine of Clubs
u4815162342 checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing River ** Seven of Diamonds
u4815162342 bets [$44 USD]
HERO is all-In.
u4815162342 is all-In.
u4815162342 shows Eight of Spades Eight of Hearts two pairs, Queens and Eights.
HERO shows Ace of Spades Two of Spades a pair of Queens.
HERO wins $6.75 USD from side pot #1 with a pair of Queens.
u4815162342 wins $418.70 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Queens and Eights.

Also shitty rivers made things fun :

UTG Villain seemed tight pre but very aggro and good at hand reading postflop. I don’t really care about the overcaller; if he hits his flush, he hits his flush.

Seat 3: HERO ( $225.96 USD )
Seat 1: schoolWTF ( $272.65 USD )
Seat 5: imprimante ( $262.50 USD )
Seat 6: ModanoMVP ( $42.35 USD )
Seat 4: Great__Ape ( $191 USD )
Seat 2: stoney_mahon ( $200 USD )
imprimante posts small blind [$1 USD].
ModanoMVP posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Queen of Spades Queen of Clubs
schoolWTF raises [$8 USD]
HERO calls [$8 USD]
Great__Ape calls [$8 USD]
imprimante folds.
ModanoMVP folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Queen of Hearts Two of Hearts Eight of Clubs

schoolWTF bets [$20 USD]
HERO calls [$20 USD]
Great__Ape calls [$20 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Four of Spades

schoolWTF checks.
HERO bets [$41 USD]
Great__Ape calls [$41 USD]
schoolWTF calls [$41 USD]

** Dealing River ** Five of Hearts

schoolWTF is all-In.
HERO folds.
Great__Ape is all-In.
schoolWTF shows Ace of Hearts Nine of Hearts a flush, Ace high.
Great__Ape doesn't show Seven of Hearts Six of Hearts a flush, Queen high.
The time at which hand ended:Oct 14 2007 13:26 ET
schoolWTF wins $81.65 USD from side pot #1 with a flush, Ace high.
schoolWTF wins $451.50 USD from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.

Bleh bleh bleh. Back to nl400.
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played short sessions both yesterday and today at nl400 and I'm down about 1 buy in after I resqueezed against a compulsive squeezer who had AA.

Feel like I'm playing o.k., but nowhere near as well as I'm capable of.

I felt like I was playing close to my full potential at the start of my move up to nl400 but already find that I'm kind of indifferent. I really want to work on playing with laser-like focus.

I think for me the best way to do this is to really tighten up preflop and honestly try to win (or at least make the perfect decision during) EVERY hand. This may seem obvious but it's not easy to do since it's so draining. Part of the problem may be playing on auto-pilot when I feel groggy in the morning. I really feel that when I'm playing tight preflop and am devoting all of my energies to every decision, I'm close to unstoppable.

Of course, pretty much every half-decent poker player feels the same, so the challenge is getting into that "zone" as much as possible.
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Just played an awesome session. Only about 700 hands, but I was very very focussed for every one of them. Unfortunately, on the last orbit I got it in almost 200bb’s deep vs a HUGE fish with

King of Spades Ten of Spades on a Two of Spades Six of Clubs Nine of Spades Seven of Spades board.

He had Ace of Spades Eight of Spades and I threw up a little bit.

After getting set-over-setted a little earlier in a reraised pot, I’d have to say that I ran pretty poorly today. Regardless, I’m really really happy about the way I played tonight and hope I can keep up the intensity through the week.

Most of the hands I won were just small and medium-sized pots.

I made this call that turned my session from a small loss into a small gain :

Seat 2: HERO ( $520.05 USD )
Seat 1: Turin_Petr ( $768.12 USD )
Seat 3: WZRX5 ( $489.10 USD )
Seat 5: penny172111 ( $243.60 USD )
Seat 6: Jelsomino ( $390 USD )
Seat 4: KMS222 ( $74 USD )
penny172111 posts small blind [$2 USD].
Turin_Petr posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Ace of Hearts Seven of Hearts
HERO raises [$14 USD]
WZRX5 folds.
KMS222 folds.
penny172111 has been reconnected and has 4 seconds to act.
penny172111 calls [$12 USD]
Turin_Petr folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Jack of Diamonds Nine of Spades Seven of Diamonds

penny172111 checks.
HERO bets [$24 USD]
penny172111 calls [$24 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Five of Spades

penny172111 checks.
HERO checks.

** Dealing River ** Five of Diamonds

penny172111 is all-In.
HERO calls [$205.60 USD]
penny172111 shows King of Spades Ace of Diamonds a pair of Fives.
HERO shows Ace of Hearts Seven of Hearts two pairs, Sevens and Fives.
The time at which hand ended:Oct 17 2007 00:23 ET
HERO wins $488.70 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Sevens and Fives.
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Played about 1k hands in past couple days.

Feel like I'm playing really really well. Like I mentioned before, everything for me is about being in the right state of mind and I think I've been playing in that kind of zone lately.

So far I'm up about 7 buy ins at nl400 I think; can't be sure because results are scattered across a couple different computers but I'm happy both with my play and my results regardless.

My PokerTracker is being weird right now and I can't slap up HH's but from memory :

I've been punishing a donk who limp-calls everything.

4th or 5th time it happens, I have King of Spades Seven of Spades

He leads into me on k89 rainbow, I shove for 250 more (we are about 280 eff stacks) and he snap calls. Turn and river blank, JTo no good.

Another big hand was vs a 51/7 who had caught me value-bluffing with 88 on a T44 board (he lead into me and I shoved for about 80 more... he called w JT gg).

I was lucky enough to get 3 streets of value deepstacked with 88 on AAA7k board (he mucked 22...)

Least fun hand of all was losing with JJ vs TT ai preflop vs a fishy-passive type who limped utg (30/9ish). Tagg punished from HJ and I called w JJ on btn.

BB ninja goes AI for 26 more. Fish calls and tagg calls. Pretty sure tagg isolates here with QQ+ so figuring my hand is good I shove to isolate all the dead money (abougt 200ish).

Fish goes into the tank and calls with 3 secs left, tagg folds. River T gg 1k pot.

But whatever, time to watch the Red Sox lose and make me some money.
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Is my image really that bad? Guy has been good and taggy 23/19ish :


Table Jackpot #1305248 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: HERO ( $613.61 USD )
Seat 6: Raul_Oliv ( $534.85 USD )
Seat 2: VILLAIN ( $507.80 USD )
Seat 5: grilo11 ( $81.30 USD )
Seat 4: gabi40 ( $281.50 USD )
Seat 1: zzxaz ( $440.60 USD )
gabi40 posts small blind [$2 USD].
grilo11 posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Ace of Clubs Seven of Clubs
Raul_Oliv folds.
zzxaz folds.
VILLAIN raises [$14 USD]
HERO calls [$14 USD]
gabi40 folds.
grilo11 calls [$10 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** King of Clubs Ace of Hearts Four of Clubs

grilo11 checks.
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [$41 USD]
grilo11 folds.
VILLAIN calls [$41 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Nine of Spades

VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [$111 USD]
VILLAIN calls [$111 USD]

** Dealing River ** Nine of Clubs

VILLAIN checks.
HERO is all-In.
VILLAIN is all-In.
VILLAIN shows Queen of Spades King of Diamonds two pairs, Kings and Nines.
HERO shows Ace of Clubs Seven of Clubs a flush, Ace high.
The time at which hand ended:Oct 23 2007 19:35 ET
HERO wins $105.81 USD from side pot #1 with a flush, Ace high.
HERO wins $1,028.10 USD from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.
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lol wtf is up with his line in that last hand?

nice pot!
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very nice lol
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Not playing a hell of a lot right now. Kinda feel that blehness when summer turns to fall here in Montreal.

Been making some moniez but not feeling super pumped up or anything. I'm prob up about 9 buyins so far at nl400 and am +6kish since getting back from Peru. Been playing awesome lately but just don't feel that fire.

I may take a few days off or just keep playing short sessions.

For fun, I've been playing PLO25 lately and it s easily the most fun I've had playing poker since I started playing sit n go s on Stars 2 years ago. Ppl don't fold preflop to a single raise... ever. I think I've made about 15 buyins in 3 days just donking before going to bed.

I think my main weakness (not playing enough) could actually help out some people who grind and grind when they're playing/running badly. We all know it's the 1st rule of poker (just give up when you're having a bad day), but I know so many people who have that "get unstuck" mentality and punish themselves by sitting at tough tables with a shitty image.

I always err on the side of paranoia. Today I played a few orbits, was sitting at some reasonably fishy tables but just didn't feel it. I know myself well enough to know that in that mood I'm likely to make very very thin plays just for the sake of entertaning myself. It's basically an impatience that will lead to me spewing if I'm not careful.

So I just took my 200$ profit after 100 hands and now.. who knows, I'll find something else to do. One thing is for sure: I won't stick around and tilt myself by spewing. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get some hungrineses back and play a decent session.

Here's a hand I feel pretty meh about.

Playing draws is fun when you can rep more than the draw you're actually hoping to hit. In this hand, I felt like villain was very strong since it was the first time I'd seen him punish like this preflop.

I didn't think villain was particularly good, so I felt that he might put the rest of his stack in drawing dead, or close to it. Plan was to get lots of money in if my 8-outer hit the turn.

Once the flush completes on the turn, I have a really interesting opportunity since the Ace of Hearts really connected with the range I expected him to have (AK, AQ, KK, AA, QQ). I was caught between two conflicting principles :

1 - repping another draw that completes when yours misses
and
2- not bluffing a mediocre player off of a big hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($390.70)
Hero ($684.79)
UTG ($83.55)
MP ($386)
Button =#A500AF(VILLAIN)/ ($288.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 8. UTG posts a blind of $4.
UTG (poster) checks, 1 fold, Button =#A500AF(VILLAIN)/ raises to $18, 1 fold, Hero calls $14, UTG calls $14.

Flop: ($58) 6, K, 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, VILLAIN bets $54, Hero calls $54, UTG folds.

Turn: ($166) A (2 players)
Hero checks, VILLAIN checks.

River: ($166) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, VILLAIN checks.

Final Pot: $166

Unfortunately, my read was completely off and I could've probably pushed him off of a hand that was much weaker than I anticipated (he had KxJh).
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Jesus Christ

The stuff I saw tonight on Party was unreal. I would've had a winning session were it not for 2 hands vs a laggtard playing 48/37.

For some reason the convertor won't work for this one so here's the 1st one manually:

Hero ($400)
BB =VILLAIN ($400)

Hero has Ace of Hearts King of Spades
Villain raises to $12
Hero (poster) raises to $44
Villain calls $34.

flop is Three of Diamonds Jack of Hearts Seven of Hearts
(check-check)

turn is King of Clubs

VILLAIN checks, Hero checks.

river is Jack of Clubs

VILLAIN bets 90$, I shove

Villain calls with Jack of Diamonds Nine of Spades

Thin shove, I admit, but I figured J was one of the best cards for this play. Whenever I see someone bluff this spot, ppl call down with QQ, 99 etc. I was actually thinking KT or KQ or possibly pushing him off a split.

Here's hand no. 2 where he pwned me :

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($288)
Hero ($400)
Button ($151)
SB =#A500AF(VILLAIN)/ ($723)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7, 8.
Hero checks, 1 fold, SB =#A500AF(VILLAIN)/ raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($36) 4, T, 5 (2 players)
VILLAIN bets $20, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($76) 2 (2 players)
VILLAIN bets $36, Hero raises to $72, VILLAIN calls $36.

River: ($220) 5 (2 players)
VILLAIN checks, Hero bets $224, VILLAIN calls $224.

Final Pot: $668

Results in white below:
Hero has 7h 8h (one pair, fives).
VILLAIN has Qc Ac (one pair, fives).
Outcome: VILLAIN wins $668.


Unreal.

Ppl calling down thin seemed to be the theme of the night.

Here is my favourite one :

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($400)
UTG ($288)
MP ($286.70)
Button =#A500AF(EXPERT)/ ($236.70)
Hero ($396)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
2 folds, Button =#A500AF(EXPERT)/ calls $4, Hero raises to $20, 1 fold, Button =#A500AF(EXPERT)/ calls $16.

Flop: ($44) 6, 6, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $31, EXPERT calls $31.

Turn: ($106) T (2 players)
Hero bets $99, EXPERT calls $99.

River: ($304) T (2 players)
Hero calls $394 (All-In), EXPERT calls $236.70 (All-In).

Final Pot: $777.40

Results in white below:
EXPERT has 7h 3h (two pair, tens and sixes).
Hero has Ac Ah (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $934.70.


I would've been pretty tilted if I'd have been bluffing with a pair of 5's.

In my last post I talked about repping a draw that hits when yours misses. Here the villain seemed like a weak taggfish who auto c-bet every flop.

So I floated him, then picked up an 8-outer. Fun river :

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($400)
UTG ($403.60)
MP ($80)
Button ($241.68)
SB =#A500AF(VILLAIN)/ ($408.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 6.
2 folds, Button calls $4, SB =#A500AF(VILLAIN)/ raises to $20, Hero calls $16, Button folds.

Flop: ($44) 2, Q, 7 (2 players)
VILLAIN bets $28, Hero calls $28.

Turn: ($100) 8 (2 players)
VILLAIN bets $64, Hero calls $64.

River: ($228) 2 (2 players)
VILLAIN checks, Hero calls $396 (All-In), VILLAIN folds.

Final Pot: $624

Results in white below:
Hero has 5s 6s (one pair, twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $624.


lost a little over a buyin, mainly because I couldn't make a hand vs the villain from the 1st hands I posted. He left the table with about 400 bb's (puke) but at least I've got him on my buddy list.

Peace.
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coming back home 2morrow after a week away for funerals, working on some projects and having fun with buddies

feelin good hoping to play some good poker updates are a comin
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1st session back and made a few couple marginal and probably donkish calldowns.

1st one is this hand, where I pushed villain off QQ preflop in previous hand (he’s 13/6 and cold-called the SB’s 3-bet to my CO open… I shoved with AA and I’m pretty sure he isn’t lying).

I felt he may be tilty and trying to “get back at me”.

I’m kind of rusty and think that everything is possible here. Turns out the guy is a total nit who I’d doubt does very little adjusting, just plays his cards :

$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, November 06, 12:00:32 ET 2007
Table Jackpot #1305503 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 6: HERO ( $872.60 USD )
Seat 3: luttilo ( $353.50 USD )
Seat 1: zakhy ( $376 USD )
Seat 5: gekko_11 ( $421.60 USD )
Seat 2: Yourdaddylovesyou ( $557.50 USD )
luttilo posts small blind [$2 USD].
gekko_11 posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Three of Diamonds Four of Diamonds
luttilo: qq
HERO raises [$14 USD]
zakhy folds.
Yourdaddylovesyou folds.
luttilo calls [$12 USD]
gekko_11 folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Queen of Diamonds Queen of Spades Eight of Diamonds

luttilo checks.
HERO bets [$21 USD] (This could easily be a check behind if I think he’ll be bluffraising me)
luttilo raises [$42 USD]
HERO calls [$21 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Four of Spades

HERO: nice fold
luttilo bets [$45 USD]
HERO calls [$45 USD]

** Dealing River ** Three of Hearts

luttilo bets [$110 USD]
HERO calls [$110 USD]
luttilo shows Ace of Clubs Queen of Clubs three of a kind, Queens.
HERO doesn't show Three of Diamonds Four of Diamonds two pairs, Queens and Fours.
The time at which hand ended:Nov 06 2007 12:01 ET
luttilo wins $423.50 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Queens.


This next calldown is really fkin annoying, only because the villain was a maniac and I know he would’ve been firing any river or at least calling a value-bet after he hit the turn :

$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, November 06, 11:51:47 ET 2007
Table Table 125491 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Rufio1988 ( $390 USD )
Seat 2: HERO ( $521.30 USD )
Seat 5: bokerpom ( $414.10 USD )
Seat 3: wcnevers1 ( $201.02 USD )
Seat 6: sampie87 ( $87.12 USD )
Seat 4: wazzaxxx ( $344 USD )
wcnevers1 posts small blind [$2 USD].
wazzaxxx posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Ace of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds
bokerpom raises [$16 USD]
sampie87 folds.
Rufio1988 folds.
HERO calls [$16 USD]
wcnevers1 calls [$14 USD]
wazzaxxx calls [$12 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** Ace of Hearts Nine of Clubs Three of Hearts

wcnevers1 checks.
wazzaxxx bets [$24 USD]
bokerpom folds.
HERO calls [$24 USD]
wcnevers1 folds.

** Dealing Turn ** Jack of Diamonds

wazzaxxx bets [$56 USD]
HERO calls [$56 USD] thought very hard about raising this street

** Dealing River ** Ten of Hearts

wazzaxxx bets [$104 USD]
HERO calls [$104 USD]
wazzaxxx shows Jack of Hearts Two of Hearts a flush, Ace high.
HERO doesn't show Ace of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds two pairs, Aces and Tens.
wazzaxxx wins $429 USD from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.

Don’t ask me what’s going on in the world but it looks like ppl are folding to some of my spews. Villain typed in “KK” just after folding :

$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, November 06, 12:03:01 ET 2007
Table Jackpot #1304207 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: MASTERCARD70 ( $431.50 USD )
Seat 3: k74816 ( $400 USD )
Seat 5: mezardoz ( $25 USD )
Seat 4: HERO ( $589.50 USD )
Seat 6: UFISHMESHARK ( $473 USD )
Seat 1: RikluSenol ( $131.60 USD )
mezardoz posts small blind [$2 USD].
UFISHMESHARK posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Eight of Hearts Eight of Diamonds
RikluSenol folds.
MASTERCARD70 folds.
k74816 raises [$15 USD]
HERO calls [$15 USD]
mezardoz folds.
UFISHMESHARK folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Ten of Hearts Seven of Spades Seven of Diamonds

k74816 bets [$28 USD]
HERO raises [$69 USD]
k74816 raises [$92 USD]
HERO is all-In.
k74816 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
The time at which hand ended:Nov 06 2007 12:03 ET
HERO wins $727 USD
K74816: kk

This is the sick one. Villain 3-bet me in an earlier hand where BB called the 3-bet. I had AA and decided to rep AK and open-shove, hoping at least the BB would come along for the ride.

Well, SB villain (guy in this hand), timed waaaaay down and eventually folded. He runs at 21/18 and seems very aggro and probably thinking so it made me think he had folded a big hand.

So this next time he 3-bets me and I call because we are deep (lol excusestoplaysuitedgapperaments)… Flop I call because it’s easy for me to rep TT-QQ which he may shut down on. My main concern is getting stack-a-donked on the turn so I check behind because I feel my best way to win the pot will be to raise a river blocker.

Then the fun begins. Rather than block, he bets very big. Now I think that he has a very strong hand. But because of his aggression (I’ve seen him fire and fire several times), I am also inclined to believe he’ll be doing this with air.

The big question becomes : how often do I think he’s bluffing or turning a medium-strength hand into a bluff here?

Since my line looks weak up to this point, I figure there will be lots of bluffs in his range. I’ve been running at 34/23 so I think he’s 3-betting me particularly lightly. So I think the answer to this question is “lots of the time”

The secondary question is how many of his strong hands can I get him to fold by shoving? While this may seem insane, we have an entire buy-in behind even after he bets close to pot on the river. So I’m lead to believe he’ll probably be able to get away from AK, KQ (although I’d doubt he bets KQ this strongly on the riv, so prob AK) and ***maybe*** AA.

I wouldn’t be totally surprised to see AA call here but I feel like it’s a ridiculously gross spot if he missed his turn CR ai with AA.

Is my line ever a bluff? It’s sure hard to rep anything. You’d think I’d prob bet a set on the turn for value or raise the flop…

I think in his shoes I just throw up because I expect to see 88 or 99 here a shitton cuz that's just how poker works lol.


$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, November 06, 12:04:56 ET 2007
Table Jackpot #1305503 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 6: HERO ( $659.60 USD )
Seat 3: luttilo ( $566 USD )
Seat 1: zakhy ( $370 USD )
Seat 5: gekko_11 ( $346.40 USD )
Seat 2: Yourdaddylovesyou ( $631.80 USD )
Seat 4: Aikisensai ( $400 USD )
Yourdaddylovesyou posts small blind [$2 USD].
luttilo posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Three of Hearts Five of Hearts
gekko_11 folds.
HERO raises [$14 USD]
zakhy folds.
Yourdaddylovesyou raises [$46 USD]
luttilo folds.
HERO calls [$34 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** King of Diamonds Eight of Spades Nine of Clubs

Yourdaddylovesyou bets [$75 USD]
HERO calls [$75 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Two of Diamonds

Yourdaddylovesyou checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing River ** Four of Hearts
Yourdaddylovesyou bets [$180 USD]
HERO is all-In.
Yourdaddylovesyou : AA
Yourdaddylovesyou folds.
HERO does not show cards.
The time at which hand ended:Nov 06 2007 12:05 ET
HERO wins $964.10 USD

Anyways, finished 1st session back + 2 buyins. Hopefully I can keep playing a decent amount and run hawwwwt.
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1) This is a sketchy spot. I personally dont think Id call that river unless I knew he was a nut who would bluff all the way down. A bluff on that flop is really common, but when he keeps betting I just dont think you can call. I prob call turn because you are most likely getting paid off, but on the river I just dont see what he is leading with that we beat here. Id really expect to see trips a huge percentage of the time here.

2) This all really depends on how big of a maniac he is. It would take a pretty big fish for me to call the turn, I just feel like most of the time you going to be against a strong hand. Raiser is UTG, still cbet multiway pot and fired turn. It turns out that he is a huge fish, but Id need a very good idea of how he plays before Id tangle in a big pot like this with a marginal hand. As played, I dont think I can fold river, as a worse two pair or something like AK AQ is still possible. I would like to hear what other people think here though.

3) Im not sure I like this a ton without history. If you think you could reverse yeti somebody into calling with A-high, thatd be pretty sick, but I just dont like bluffing with a hand thats most likely good. What was your intention with this hand?

4) I feel like when I make moves like this, I get called by TT. Your line just doesnt make a ton of sense. A set is possible, but is it likely given your image? Personally, Id just fold to the 3bet. I dont think calling is horrible, but its just going to put you in such awkward spots postflop
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in hand 3 I really don't know what I was doing. Part of me thought I could have the best hand and I would be protecting because of obv yeti considerations

other part of me thought I could get him to fold Tx or 99 ish holding

4) ya like I said in other thread, he prob just had air. i made the bet more because I figured weak to airish hands made up a pretty big part of his range and he d bet those after I showed weakness on flop and turn
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Won lots of money today raising the river in position (posted the hands in other thread in SHNL) and I'm up about 5 buyins on the week... through 310 hands lol.

Been really busy with school stuff and a project I might talk about in a later entry.

I'd say "hopefully I can get in more hands soon" but the truth is I just finished a sweet hit n run and I'm gonna learn how to play FIFA 2008 on the Wii and drink lots of beer


ok ok. 1 hand for the old blog :

I know you are a donk who’s been minraising preflop lots

But just fold one time plz?

$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 09, 17:38:01 ET 2007
Table Table 127885 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 2: HERO ( $479.24 USD )
Seat 4: sarorn87 ( $192 USD )
Seat 1: MikeDiff ( $412.70 USD )
sarorn87 posts small blind [$2 USD].
MikeDiff posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Jack of Spades Queen of Spades
HERO raises [$14 USD]
sarorn87 calls [$12 USD]
MikeDiff calls [$10 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** Two of Diamonds Three of Spades Four of Spades

sarorn87 checks.
MikeDiff checks.
HERO bets [$34 USD]
sarorn87 folds.
MikeDiff calls [$34 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Eight of Diamonds

MikeDiff checks.
HERO bets [$72 USD]
MikeDiff calls [$72 USD]

** Dealing River ** Ace of Hearts

MikeDiff checks.
HERO bets [$189 USD]
jbe64 has joined the table.
MikeDiff folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins $442 USD

k thx



run well everybody
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made a buy in in about 20 minutes 2 day

here s the only really interesting spot I faced :

Villain seems like a decent reg (24/16, very aggro post flop). He most likely views me as super-tight since I've been nitting it up at this particular table.

$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 15, 15:20:39 ET 2007
Table Table 126681 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: meeder111 ( $450.32 USD )
Seat 4: marken_78 ( $0 USD )
Seat 5: oemre72 ( $483.95 USD )
Seat 6: FeedUrFish ( $877.80 USD )
Seat 2: HERO ( $402 USD )
Seat 1: noscoe ( $104.68 USD )
HERO posts small blind [$2 USD].
meeder111 posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Nine of Hearts Ten of Hearts
oemre72 folds.
FeedUrFish raises [$15 USD]
noscoe folds.
HERO raises [$47 USD]
meeder111 folds.
FeedUrFish calls [$34 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** Two of Spades Eight of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds

HERO checks.
FeedUrFish checks.

** Dealing Turn ** Eight of Clubs

HERO bets [$79 USD]
FeedUrFish calls [$79 USD]

** Dealing River ** Four of Diamonds

HERO is all-In.
FeedUrFish (tanks…) and folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins $532 USD

Eff stacks on river were about pot (270 ish). I really think all 3 possibilities have merit.

Betting can get called by worse (99 ish) and fold out better (JJ-QQish going for pot control thoughout hand), which is why I chose to bet.

Another issue is shove vs value-bet. I'm very very confident I have the best hand here so I was tempted to go for 1/2 pot or something, but instead I decided to take the chance of folding out the 2 hands that beat me that got to the river this way once in a blue moon. Also shoving is good in case I get called by 99 or 77 or something just to protect my bluffs and merge my range.

I'm crazy busy with a development project in Peru I'm organizing from my base here in Montreal. So I'm not playing as much as I'd like, but the hit n runs still feel good.
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played a reasonable session today

was wondering what I was gonna do with my 2k+ profit when getting it AI vs a 50/28 with King of Clubs Queen of Clubs on Five of Clubs Six of Clubs Nine of Clubs board and another wacko on tilt with AK preflop

in 1st hand villain had Ace of Clubs Three of Clubs and second hand he sucked out with KJo

so went from +2k to about +1.5 buyins but a nice little profit all the same

stopped after that cuz figured there was a good chance I'd be in "win it back" mode which can often turn into "get unstuck" mode
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Dropped a decent amount today but it doesn’t feel as bad as it could.

After losing 1.4k in 400 hands at nl400 I decided my game needed a good kick in the ass of discipline.

I went down and played about 800 hands of nl200 and won about 750ish to cut my loss for the day in half.

At nl200 I was playing what seemed like very ABC poker and was surprised to see that I ran at 30/20.

The nl400 loss was mainly 2 hands : a deepstacked semi-bluff in a 3-bet pot that ran into the stone cold nuts and a flip 150bb’s deep with Nine of Hearts Ten of Hearts vs Seven of Spades Eight of Spades on a Seven of Hearts Eight of Hearts Three of Diamonds board.

Here are a couple hands from the nl200 recovery that made me smile :

$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 23, 22:37:24 ET 2007
Table Table 126403 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 6: HERO ( $337.88 USD )
Seat 2: Michelle_Y ( $207.35 USD )
Seat 5: kosco77 ( $214.60 USD )
Seat 1: knobrok ( $158.85 USD )
Seat 4: ShynePo11 ( $205.21 USD )
Michelle_Y posts small blind [$1 USD].
ShynePo11 posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Ace of Diamonds King of Diamonds
kosco77 folds.
HERO raises [$7 USD]
knobrok calls [$7 USD]
Michelle_Y folds.
ShynePo11 raises [$10 USD]
HERO raises [$38 USD]
knobrok calls [$38 USD]
ShynePo11 calls [$33 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** Four of Spades Seven of Spades Ten of Hearts
ShynePo11 bets [$20 USD]
HERO is all-In.
knobrok folds.
ShynePo11 is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** Ten of Diamonds
** Dealing River ** Three of Hearts
ShynePo11 shows Ace of Spades Six of Diamonds a pair of Tens.
HERO shows Ace of Diamonds King of Diamonds a pair of Tens.
HERO wins $132.67 USD from side pot #1 with a pair of Tens with King kicker.
HERO wins $454.42 USD from the main pot with a pair of Tens with King kicker.
kosco77 has left the table.

Squeezing with AK didn’t always work out so hawt… :

***** Hand History for Game 6529841164 *****
$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 23, 22:46:04 ET 2007
Table Table 125885 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: rocc36 ( $36.44 USD )
Seat 4: rembrant777 ( $0 USD )
Seat 5: absolut_soccer ( $279.12 USD )
Seat 3: HERO ( $231 USD )
Seat 2: DrCanine ( $178.92 USD )
Seat 6: Haaksbergen3 ( $127.11 USD )
DrCanine posts small blind [$1 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$2 USD].
Haaksbergen3 posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Ace of Clubs King of Clubs
absolut_soccer raises [$6 USD]
Haaksbergen3 calls [$4 USD]
rocc36 calls [$6 USD]
DrCanine folds.
HERO raises [$36 USD]
absolut_soccer calls [$32 USD]
Haaksbergen3 calls [$32 USD]
rocc36 is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** Queen of Diamonds Queen of Spades Three of Clubs
HERO bets [$145 USD]
absolut_soccer is all-In.
Haaksbergen3 folds.
HERO is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** Two of Spades
** Dealing River ** Jack of Hearts
HERO shows Ace of Clubs King of Clubs a pair of Queens.
absolut_soccer shows Ace of Hearts Queen of Hearts three of a kind, Queens.
rocc36 doesn't show Six of Spades Seven of Diamonds a pair of Queens.
absolut_soccer wins $48.12 USD from side pot #2 with three of a kind, Queens.
absolut_soccer wins $390.68 USD from side pot #1 with three of a kind, Queens.
absolut_soccer wins $144.76 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Queens.

This call may seem sick.

Trust me : you had to be there.

$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 23, 22:46:25 ET 2007
Table Jackpot #1309450 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 6: HERO ( $200 USD )
Seat 1: Alex3280 ( $396.48 USD )
Seat 4: Sitting__Out ( $201 USD )
Seat 2: MoneyEvil ( $178.75 USD )
Seat 5: lantimenace ( $111.46 USD )
Seat 3: VPIP99 ( $194 USD )
Sitting__Out posts small blind [$1 USD].
lantimenace posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Ace of Diamonds Queen of Hearts
HERO raises [$7 USD]
Alex3280 folds.
MoneyEvil calls [$7 USD]
VPIP99 folds.
Sitting__Out folds.
lantimenace calls [$5 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** Two of Clubs Ace of Clubs Seven of Clubs
lantimenace is all-In.
HERO is all-In.
MoneyEvil folds.
** Dealing Turn ** Nine of Hearts
** Dealing River ** Seven of Spades
lantimenace shows Two of Hearts Seven of Hearts a full house, Sevens full of Twos.
HERO shows Ace of Diamonds Queen of Hearts two pairs, Aces and Sevens.
The time at which hand ended:Nov 23 2007 22:47 ET
HERO wins $88.54 USD from side pot #1 with two pairs, Aces and Sevens.
lantimenace wins $227.42 USD from the main pot with a full house, Sevens full of Twos.

Getting paid off is nice :

$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 23, 21:58:35 ET 2007
Table Table 127948 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: ShootTheml8r ( $211.20 USD )
Seat 6: HERO ( $444.40 USD )
Seat 4: Dressler84 ( $0 USD )
Seat 1: crack83 ( $213.45 USD )
Seat 5: Just_a_hunch ( $185 USD )
ShootTheml8r posts small blind [$1 USD].
Just_a_hunch posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO Three of Diamonds Four of Diamonds
HERO raises [$7 USD]
crack83 raises [$20 USD]
ShootTheml8r folds.
Just_a_hunch folds.
HERO calls [$13 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** Eight of Clubs Two of Clubs Ace of Diamonds
HERO checks.
crack83 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** Nine of Diamonds
HERO bets [$26 USD]
crack83 calls [$26 USD]
** Dealing River ** Five of Hearts
HERO is all-In.
crack83 is all-In.
HERO shows Three of Diamonds Four of Diamonds a straight Ace to Five.
crack83 doesn't show Ten of Clubs Ten of Spades a pair of Tens.
HERO wins $230.95 USD from side pot #1 with a straight, Ace to Five.
HERO wins $427.90 USD from the main pot with a straight, Ace to Five.

Hopefully I can play some good poker tomorrow. My current objective is to make 5k then cash out 3k. gogogogogo me.

edit (4:30 am) : just played some plo25 and 50

+250$ ship it, so only down 1 buy in at nl400 for the day
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deposited 100$ on stars cuz I felt like playing some low limit donkaments

worked it up to 300$ and just won a 13$ dbl shootout to tomorrow's mill

I prob won't play but the 530$ is nice

also I'm chip leader with 12 ppl left in a 5$ PLo rebuy. 1st is only 700$ but it'd be nice

gogogogo luckbox

edit : just put on casino royale so I'm waiting impatiently for my St8flush cooler

final edit : busted in 6th KKdbl suited into AA preflop and lost 6679 on 58T board vs bare QQ bleh

still made about 1 hundo on the FT so whatever gg
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I've dropped 3603$ in my past 718 hands at 2-4.

4 of the buyins were huge bluffs deep. 1 of them was good and another one of them was reckless.

The rest are just high-variance plays that didn't work out (i.e. felting 99 Bvb vs complete maniac running 90/57 over 150 hands).

It's kind of too bad because I've played pretty much my A game every hand so far at nl400. This short but nasty mini-downswing has reminded me that I need a huge # of buyins if I want to play what I think is an optimal game.

I'm thinking hard about what to do right now. In the past, I've always moved down or taken a break after dropping 10ish buyins.

Another option is sticking at nl400 with 32 buyins but playing a much lower variance style.

Gonna think about this for a while and post later.
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K just thought about it for about 30 secs

Gonna play 5k hands of nl200 and come back to nl400 and force myself to take low-variance approch until I have 45 buyins.

At 45 buyins I'll up the aggression a little bit (start trying to make ppl fold hands when I know pretty well what they have and think they ***should*** fold to aggression).

When I hit 50 buyins, I'll withdraw some money, keep the variance reasonable and take a crack at nl600 when I make back the money I've withdrawn.

This may sound a little ridiculous, all this talk about "controlling my variance", but trust me, it's not. It's VERY hard to lose in the Party nl 2-4 games when thinking clearly and adopting some sort of nittag style.

Initially after moving up, I was playing something as close to this as possible for me (maybe 20/14 ish), since I just wanted to build some confidence.

But after winning maybe 15 buyins, I started opening up my game substantially. I've played the past few sessions around 30/22. I think this is the best style vs the mediocre regs and nits and it lends for some crazy swings vs the better laggs.

The practical implications of the different approaches to variance aren't that tough to lay out. They're probably obvious for many of you but I think I'll make a post using an example hand some other night.

For now it's time to fire up some nl200.
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bleh

just played 1k hands of nl200 and dropped 900$. This means that 2day was my biggest loss ever, 3.1k.

almost everything was just aggro play during the nl200 session. A cpl times I 2 barrelled 3 bet pots HU and got shoved on, lost a cpl flips with AK and got it in with TT vs a compulsive squeezer who had QQ.

Last hand of night I called a 3 bet on the Btn preflop with AQ vs a 29/26 villain planning on commit-raising any flop. 2 bad he had QQ and flop came J high.

I'm not really worried, just really frustrated. I hope I don't play these 5k hands like a bot or anything. Just wanna play good, smart and aggressive. It would drive me crazy to lose so much at nl200 that I have to stay there for a while.

Back at it soon.
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I’m tired and upset so I’ll post 2 hands from 2day’s session for fun

Here I’m up against the maniac and make a good call.

$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 25, 23:10:18 ET 2007
Table Jackpot #1304641 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: kruspe222 ( $2,535.11 USD )
Seat 2: No_Limit_King ( $555.60 USD )
Seat 3: nutzgrabber ( $422.50 USD )
Seat 6: x_Megatron_x ( $693 USD )
Seat 5: HERO ( $400 USD )
Seat 4: StepThirteen ( $408.45 USD )
nutzgrabber posts small blind [$2 USD].
StepThirteen posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Three of Diamonds Four of Diamonds
HERO raises [$14 USD]
x_Megatron_x folds.
kruspe222 calls [$14 USD]
No_Limit_King folds.
nutzgrabber folds.
StepThirteen calls [$10 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** Jack of Spades Two of Hearts Four of Spades

StepThirteen checks.
HERO bets [$31 USD]
kruspe222 calls [$31 USD]
StepThirteen folds.

** Dealing Turn ** Five of Diamonds

HERO bets [$67 USD]
kruspe222 calls [$67 USD]

** Dealing River ** Seven of Diamonds

HERO checks.
kruspe222 bets [$2,080 USD]
HERO is all-In.
kruspe222 shows Queen of Spades Eight of Spades high card Queen.
HERO shows Three of Diamonds Four of Diamonds a pair of Fours.
The time at which hand ended:Nov 25 2007 23:10 ET
kruspe222 wins $1,792 USD from side pot #1 with high card, Queen.
HERO wins $812.50 USD from the main pot with a pair of Fours.

Here all I can say is I don’t know what villain was thinking. Nice call.

Maybe he was happy cuz one of his cards matched the top pair on the board? He timed down, so maybe for a while he thought he didn’t have the top pair but then realized the A matched up with his A, even though it was a different colour.

$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 25, 23:31:55 ET 2007
Table Jackpot #1304411 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: UrBabyIsUgly ( $719 USD )
Seat 2: ffsstfu ( $266.73 USD )
Seat 4: lucasqueiroz ( $480.40 USD )
Seat 5: Joost058 ( $396.44 USD )
Seat 6: Gleb3136 ( $298.83 USD )
Seat 3: HERO ( $400 USD )
lucasqueiroz posts small blind [$2 USD].
Joost058 posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO King of Clubs Ten of Clubs
Gleb3136 folds.
UrBabyIsUgly folds.
ffsstfu folds.
HERO raises [$14 USD]
lucasqueiroz folds.
Joost058 calls [$10 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** Ace of Clubs Jack of Diamonds Jack of Hearts

Joost058 checks.
HERO bets [$25 USD]
Joost058 raises [$68 USD]
HERO is all-In.
Joost058 is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** Three of Diamonds
** Dealing River ** King of Hearts
Joost058 shows Ace of Diamonds Ten of Hearts two pairs, Aces and Jacks.
HERO shows King of Clubs Ten of Clubs two pairs, Kings and Jacks.
The time at which hand ended:Nov 25 2007 23:33 ET
HERO wins $3.56 USD from side pot #1 with two pairs, Kings and Jacks.
Joost058 wins $791.38 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Aces and Jacks.
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I think I have some serious self-management issues to overcome.

Most of the money I made at nl400 came from playing short, ***perfect*** sessions. Usually that just means that I didn't get called in any big bluffs and finished with a profit.

Today I continued playing nl200 (plan is to play 5k hands before going back to nl400) and quickly made about 750$.

I then dropped at least 1k in the space of about 140 hands.

1 buy in was CLEARLY due to tilt. Blind vs blind I got limp-reraised by a 24/6 who had stacked me on the very last hand when I shoved on his river blocker (after raising UTG and firing 2 barrels on J high board) and he snap-called with TPTK.

I insta-shoved over his limp-reraise and his AK held up over my AJ.

Nothing... and I mean NOTHING, tilts me like spewing away winnings. I ALWAYS tell myself "well, if you'd only stopped"...

What this suggests is a basic gambler's mentality. It is COMPLETELY irrational. It means that I am playing poker for emotional fulfillment. It feels good to win. I always want to be happy. Booking wins feels good.

But the need to feel good has gotten in the way of my long-term profits. If I look back over the past 12 months or so of play, I can count the sessions where I've played very well for more than 1k hands on the fingers of one hand.

This is a very very bad sign and means that, while in a bubble I may have some sort of poker proficiency, I lack the emotional discipline and the equanimity necessary for poker.

It's funny, because this isn't something I really feel like I'm lacking in other aspects of my life ("handling your ups and down" lol) but I've somehow managed to never get over this hump in poker.

When I was grinding up my roll playing the Back 2 Back in the good old days of their huge bonuses, I was a very very aggro regular at the nl100 euro games.

My old laptop with the results of those days is shot, but I think I made about 15 ptbb/100 over about a 40k sample. Back then, I had maybe 1/3 of the poker skill and experience I have now, but I had a much much better approach to variance. I would regularly get it in light vs other regs and just accepted the fact that the swings would be huge. Most of the regs ended up just giving up vs me since they were only there to nit their way to the bonuses so I was in a great spot. I also had the comfort of knowing that even if I spewed a little bit too much, I had big bonuses waiting for me at the end of the day.

Nowadays, I'm playing solely for profit from the tables. For whatever reason, I get extremely tied to results. Like, it's just fucking unbelievable. If I run a bluff that works, then it's brilliant and I feel great and I'm on top of the world (and vice-versa obv).

What's stupid though, is when I'm losing, I often have no problem rationalizing what appears to be a good play that didn't work out. I just chalk it up to variance that some dood make a crazy call or I got kicked in the nutz by someone rivering a 3-outer when I was trying to control the pot.

If, however, I'm winning and one of these marginal plays doesn't work out, it drives me off the deep end. I start telling myself that I should be "holding on" to my profits and not spewing and this just puts me on huge tilt.

This is really really bothering me right now and I have some serious soul-searching to do before I continue with anything poker-related. At the very least, I have to try to start playing with a bit less intensity and less focus on short-term results.

Fuck me. It's very hard to be patient when I've been struggling with this for over 12 months.
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Puke

chat is particularly fun

$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 29, 06:51:19 ET 2007
Table Jackpot #1305419 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: Roulette_777 ( $286.45 USD )
Seat 3: Siouxsic ( $847.05 USD )
Seat 6: HERO ( $518.20 USD )
Seat 1: avgyst ( $191 USD )
Seat 5: KumarKGB ( $214 USD )
Seat 2: midein87 ( $209 USD )
KumarKGB posts small blind [$1 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$2 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Five of Spades Four of Spades
avgyst folds.
midein87 folds.
Siouxsic raises [$8 USD]
Roulette_777 folds.
KumarKGB folds.
HERO calls [$6 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** Five of Hearts Four of Clubs Seven of Spades

HERO checks.
Siouxsic bets [$14 USD]
HERO raises [$55 USD]
Siouxsic calls [$41 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Four of Hearts

HERO bets [$123 USD]
Siouxsic raises [$246 USD]
HERO is all-In.
Siouxsic : flush?
KumarKGB : i wonder if either of you have a pair
Siouxsic calls [$209.20 USD]

** Dealing River ** Eight of Diamonds

Siouxsic shows Eight of Hearts Eight of Clubs a full house, Eights full of Fours.
HERO doesn't show Four of Spades Five of Spades a full house, Fours full of Fives.
The time at which hand ended:Nov 29 2007 06:52 ET
Siouxsic wins $1,033.90 USD from the main pot with a full house, Eights full of Fours.
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Post Posted: Thu, 29 Nov 2007, 11:48am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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2nd step towards poker maturity: stop posting bad beats.

you are looking for sympathy among your peers, but all of us have been subject to the same beats multiple times.

shrug them off and keep playing. remind yourself that 95% of that pot was yours, the other 5% you had to tangle with that bitch called Fortuna. if you keep getting yourself in these spots, over time, you'll win 95% of the total money at stake in these spots.

do not place importance to beats. just shrug them off and keep playing. posting them only gives them meaning, gives them importance, gives them an "omg this shouldn't happen to miii, villain yu lukboks bastaard!!' feeling that will keep you in permatilt.
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Post Posted: Thu, 29 Nov 2007, 2:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Jack you re right that posting beats is completely useless. I almost never post beats but that one, almost 300bb's deep was probably the worst I've ever taken so figured it was worthy of laughter at the very least.

Anyways, played 1.4k hands today and was down about 1k after 700 hands then turned it around for a small profit after I ended things up. I feel like I played well at the start, spewy in the middle, then well at the end. It helped to be sitting with a whale who donated about 800$ directly to my account.

Here's a hand that is somewhere between awesome and epic :

$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 29, 11:53:45 ET 2007
Table Jackpot #1306096 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: nitramos7 ( $140.71 USD )
Seat 1: HERO ( $867.02 USD )
Seat 2: bendoon111 ( $242.40 USD )
Seat 4: NattyDread4 ( $200 USD )
Seat 6: SredniVashtar ( $200 USD )
Seat 3: Sune1983 ( $172 USD )
nitramos7 posts small blind [$1 USD].
SredniVashtar posts big blind [$2 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Ace of Spades Ace of Clubs
HERO raises [$8 USD]
bendoon111 calls [$8 USD]
Sune1983 folds.
NattyDread4 folds.
nitramos7 calls [$7 USD]
SredniVashtar folds.

** Dealing Flop ** Ace of Diamonds Ace of Hearts Six of Hearts

nitramos7 checks.
HERO checks.
bendoon111 bets [$16 USD]
nitramos7 folds.
HERO raises [$32 USD]
bendoon111 raises [$44 USD]
HERO calls [$28 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Seven of Spades

HERO checks.
bendoon111 is all-In.
HERO calls [$174.40 USD]

** Dealing River ** Eight of Hearts

HERO shows Ace of Clubs Ace of Spades four of a kind, Aces.
bendoon111 doesn't show Five of Diamonds Ten of Spades a pair of Aces.
The time at which hand ended:Nov 29 2007 11:54 ET
HERO wins $491.30 USD from the main pot with four of a kind, Aces.
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Genitruc wrote:
somewhere between awesome and epic

I lean towards epic.
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when's party coming back to the states?
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uscheese wrote:
when's party coming back to the states?
just move to Canada?
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dude just read you self management post up there above. It sounds like I suffer from the exact same problem and I'm doing the same soul searching trying to fix it. lol it actually fells like looking into a mirror reading that post.

I still haven't figured out how to deal with it. I'm kinda getting there though I think. One thing I am figuring out is how to recognise my own tilt better in my own play. I'm also really working hard on forcing myself to walk away for a half hour or whatever when I feel the slightest sign of tilt. Catch it in the early stages so to speak so that I never get to that point where I do that dumb bluff or stupid hero call or whatever. It's hard to do and I still haven't got it down but I'm getting there.

Also I find it helps to actually indulge your little voice in there which feels good if you "book a win". One thing that tilts me so bad is if I build a stack up to 200 or 300bb on a particular table then lose 100bb of that stack in subsequent play. Even if I played perfectly fine I still go on mega tilt. I used to try and force this voice that wanted me to walk away to stay quiet and I'd continue playing at that table in defience and "get over it". Of course the inevitable would happen and I'd end up on tilt and play bad. So I've learned to actually leave that table that I'm up money on and "book a win" to satisfy myself. I know this is mathamatically dumb and whatever but it saves me money in the long run because I don't end up on tilt.

Same as if I'm up a couple of hundred for the day I'll make a concious decision not to play any more because nothing puts me in a bad mood like if I'm up money on the day and then I loose it all before I go to bed that night. I cant sleep for hours when I do that. So instead I don't play any more that day and loose the money the next morning. Same variance, same result except it means I sleep a bit better.

Learn to work with yourself instead of trying to train yourself into a machine I guess.
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i have nothing good to offer you for advice though, sorry man
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hey, i just read your post a couple days ago too. i have an idea of what you're talking about. here's some random thoughts.

one helpful thing is this 2+2 post . it starts with a sorta different problem, but there's posts that relate to what you're talking about.
here's my favorite quote from that link...
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i'm not saying it's ok to tilt, i'm saying that you must have an extreme desire to crush your opponent, and you must be overconfident in yourself, and it must bother you to no end when your opponent outplays you. and at the same time you have to be level-headed enough to focus and find the best play. it's an extraordinarily delicate thing to balance, but it's the only way to be a top player in my opinion.


otherwise, i combat this sort of thing similar to irisheyes in that i'm getting good at recognizing what "grade" i'm playing, like A game, C game, etc...
for me this is more about how much i'm analyzing and acting on reads vs just doing standard stuff.
like if i'm in a C game, grinding sort of mode, then i get off, and do something else like walk or run outside, drive someplace new, or whatever will get some energy/creativity/etc flowing again.

for you it might be more about how angry you are about losing some winnings, but whatever it is, it's important to not play in "C game".

gl with this..there are lots of $ out there right now if you can improve the tilt thing.
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Nothing interesting to report right now

I've played a cpl K hands at nl200 in past few days but have mainly been busy with school stuff

Have some time on my hands between now and Monday so I'm gonna experiment with a nittagg 9-tabling game at nl200 on Party. There are just so many terrible players and I feel like lowering my variance for a little while. Results soon.
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Just finished my 1st shortish 9-tabling session playing nitty

ended up down a little over 3 buyins in about 1.3k hands at nl200. Somehow got it in vs bigger pairs preflop vs laggy villains a couple times. Each time it was a preflop spewing contest and they had the bigger one.

Don't feel like I played great... such a small sample. My won at showdown was 39 which sux pretty hard.

Gonna play at least one more session in a bit and I'll update after running smoking hot.
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Part 2 of today's poker was 850 hands of 6-8 tabling

+1k for a 2 buyin profit on the day

Besides winning a few buyins, I also was lucky enough to acquire some poor unsuspecting taggfish's soul :

The timing tells and past few hands just made this too good an offer to pass up

$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, December 06, 12:00:34 ET 2007
Table Table 127950 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 2: Zinkoral ( $230.15 USD )
Seat 6: HERO ( $374.05 USD )
Seat 4: migout ( $76.41 USD )
HERO posts small blind [$1 USD].
Zinkoral posts big blind [$2 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO Ace of Diamonds Ten of Spades
migout folds.
HERO raises [$6 USD]
Zinkoral calls [$5 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** King of Spades Nine of Hearts Four of Diamonds

HERO checks.
Zinkoral bets [$12 USD]
HERO calls [$12 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** Five of Clubs

HERO checks.
Zinkoral bets [$36 USD]
HERO calls [$36 USD]

** Dealing River ** Eight of Diamonds

HERO checks.
Zinkoral bets [$110 USD]
HERO calls [$110 USD]
Zinkoral shows Queen of Spades Ten of Hearts high card King.
HERO shows Ace of Diamonds Ten of Spades high card Ace.
HERO wins $329 USD from the main pot with high card, Ace.

After the experiment playing 17/13 this morning, I'd say I'll avoid that and stick to a laggier approach unless I'm running bad.
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Just finished a quick morning session for 700$ish in about 500 hands at nl200. Nothing notable to report besides fish playing overpairs terribly and stacking off light.

Gonna play more in a bit.
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played another 1.3k hands and lost a little over a buy in

No biggie really, made one very marginal call that didn't work out well, although I think the call is close to break even and got set-over-setted twice.

Still and o.k. day, even up a couple buyins in 200 hands. The games were just so fishy this afternoon that I played a robo-tag game and 9-tabled. Couldn't pick up a hand vs the fish but that'll change soon enough.
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played a little bit yesterday and just finished a 600 hand session this morning. Managed to drop 6 buyins in the 750 hand span. I won a couple stacks over this period but gave away 8 complete stacks during this span.

The big pots went like this :

-bottom set going down in flames 200bb's deep
-strong overpair vs 35/0's flopped str8 after I had been beating up on him
-flush over flush in a limped pot
-losing a race in a 3-bet pot
-somehow thinking I had a str8 with 78 on 9538T board and reshoving the river into the runner-runnered nuts
-losing a race with top 2 vs OESFD
-calling a J high flop and turning top 2 with AJ on AJxx vs JJ


So looking back I can say that some of the stacks I lost were coolers, at least 1 was a total mental meltdown (handreading your own hand FTW!), some were just standard variance and at least 1 was very questionable (low flush in limped pot).

As anyone who has followed this thread can see, I have a tough time finding consistency in my approach to poker.

Lately my searching has been regarding self-management and I feel pretty good about that. Don't want to get ahead of
myself but I don't really feel tilted by the swings at the moment.

Not sure if I'll play more this afternoon as I've got some school shit to take care of and this morning's session left a bit of a bad taste....
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