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Posted: Thu, 26 Feb 2009, 11:42am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Montreal
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WTFFFF, I sat at your table for ~10minutes in which you proceeded to bust about 2 guys and were sitting with 400bb stacks when i left...
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Posted: Thu, 26 Feb 2009, 5:18pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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hehe thx guys. words can t describe how tilted I was last night. I owned hard in my first 2 sessions back then lost it all and then some in a single session... almost all to Geo (u know how that feels obv) and some guy who kept calling oop and check-shoving any pair, gutter etc vs my overpairs.
the guy twice ran 200$ into 1500$ and then left. anyways it's over now... back to the grind baby. |
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Posted: Thu, 26 Feb 2009, 5:55pm Post subject:
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| Oh man.. geo owns my life.... he runs like goddd.. moreso than Rav even! |
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Posted: Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 7:32am Post subject:
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| made it back and then some tonight. shipit. |
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Posted: Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 3:03pm Post subject:
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| Genitruc wrote: | | made it back and then some tonight. shipit. |
lol obv
nh |
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Posted: Fri, 27 Feb 2009, 9:09pm Post subject:
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| it helps sitting at plo w a 1400bb stack |
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Posted: Sat, 28 Feb 2009, 1:25am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Toronto'ish
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| Genitruc wrote: | | it helps sitting at plo w a 1400bb stack |
lol sick... 200nl? |
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Posted: Sat, 28 Feb 2009, 5:03am Post subject:
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Posted: Sun, 01 Mar 2009, 4:43am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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If 55 hadn't lost to K7hh on 529hh for a 2.7k pot, I'd have had an awesome comeback session tonight. I was down a tonne at one point but for whatever reason didn't feel too stressed about it. Maybe the massive swing I had this week helped to be a bit equanimous in the face of more and more variance.
I still don't have HEM running so I can't say how many hands I've played, but it's probably close to 20k in 5 days (something like 7k mpps) and I have to say it feels great.
Plo has been amazing ; I've added hero calls to my basic set of tools. There's nothing as sick as playing late-night sessions vs drunk bastards who will literally never fold anything pre or postflop pre-river. For those of you who've been kept to the world of no-limit, a fish who chases stuff is a virtually limitless proposition in plo. Gutterball you say? Fuck the gutterball, he's got TWO back door FD's to go with it. I CALL.
My results still haven't been all that good but I feel a hunger to play that is unlike anything I can remember for a very long time. Hopefully I can find time and run with this.
Peace. |
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Posted: Thu, 19 Mar 2009, 7:15pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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So I doubled my online BR in about 12 days of playing after finishing up some school shit.
Right now my main site just switched software and I'm kind of disappointed. Not only does the new software fking blow but I got my AA cracked in the ver first orbit trying it out!
Either way, I won't be playing much between now and June. This sucks because I feel awesome about my game, both in NL and PLO but hopefully I can put in a few hands here and there and stay sharp for an intense summer grind.
Gl at the tables. |
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Posted: Thu, 19 Mar 2009, 7:38pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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Nice couple of weeks  .
Shitty software sucks . |
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Posted: Thu, 19 Mar 2009, 7:47pm Post subject:
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man u have no idea
as Griffey so eloquently put it, us InterPoker regs just went from awesome software, amazing support and good games to fk my life. |
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Posted: Fri, 20 Mar 2009, 10:16am Post subject:
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| Genitruc wrote: | man u have no idea
as Griffey so eloquently put it, us InterPoker regs just went from awesome software, amazing support and good games to fk my life. |
godd damn we got ownnnnnd harrrrrrd ... fkfkkfkffkf |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Mar 2009, 8:58am Post subject:
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I'm kind of coming around on the switch of sites : I feel like the games are pretty damned good. The software still tilts me hard, but I spoke to support and they said they'll be working on changing that.
On most sites, reassuring comments from support are empty, but InterPoker support is so legendary that I'm pretty pumped.
HOWEVER, the most important news is that after miraculously saving my sportsbetting account, I WENT 0 FOR 8 IN YESTERDAY'S NCAA ACTION.
I mean seriously, you have to try really really hard to blank 8 flips (I was betting point spread). |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Mar 2009, 9:42am Post subject:
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What did inter support say they were going to fix?
I still haven't given Boss a go yet..... maybe today... |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Mar 2009, 12:42pm Post subject:
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| griffey24 wrote: | What did inter support say they were going to fix?
I still haven't given Boss a go yet..... maybe today... | the clutter around the betting menu. I like the greater speed of the new network and I think game selection is a little better. also it's not HUD compatible so ppl can't get stats as easily, which favours me since I don't use any.
support said they'd had quite a few complaints about the betting menu and that they'd be looking into it. |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Mar 2009, 1:38pm Post subject:
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| Not HUD compatible?? Wow... sooo not using Boss geez |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Mar 2009, 2:37pm Post subject:
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| ya that s kind of why I like it |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Mar 2009, 6:47pm Post subject:
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| Sooo from what i hear... Boss isn't compatible with HEM but it IS compatible with PT3.. so people definitely have stats I'd imagine! |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Mar 2009, 9:42pm Post subject:
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| griffey24 wrote: | | Sooo from what i hear... Boss isn't compatible with HEM but it IS compatible with PT3.. so people definitely have stats I'd imagine! | wtv i don t think i ll be using stats anytime soon
p.s. make sure to run bad in your HU matches |
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Posted: Sat, 28 Mar 2009, 7:10pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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I've booked wins in 16 of my past 19 sessions.
Winning constantly tends to help my game initially (I force things less, avoid spewy plays since I'm in no hurry to "give back" my winnings). I think, however, that I've crossed a threshhold into dangerous territory where I'm so used to pots getting shipped to me that I'm getting a bit careless.
The past two times I played, I think I've gotten dangerously close to overaggro spewtardedness. I'm gonna have to watch this.
GOGO GADGET NITBOT. |
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Posted: Sat, 28 Mar 2009, 9:50pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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glad to hear somebody is running hot, other than rav, haha. im going to be flying into montreal on the 24th of April, hopefully you guys are all around
also, since when have you not used stats? ive never really understood that. i mean, i get why relying on stats too much is a bad thing, but wouldnt you gain at least something by having some stats? i just see it as something that cant hurt when kept in check, which im sure you would |
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Posted: Sat, 28 Mar 2009, 9:55pm Post subject:
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playing without stats forces me to avoid ever going into bot-mode
sounds great for the 24th. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Mar 2009, 7:43pm Post subject:
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Just tried out the new Inter software and I dropped seriously like 6k euros in the first 2 hours on the site. I was seriously wondering if it was rigged until I made most of it back in the next 4 hours. It has so many bad things about it I can't name them, but the games are good for sure. If they can change a few basic things like how fucking fast it is (8 tabling is nigh impossible and even 6 tabling is a recipe for a timeout every fucking orbit) then maybe it will be bearable.
It would suck to have to move all our rolls somewhere else when Inter has been so good to us |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Mar 2009, 11:01pm Post subject:
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ya it s funny i ve kind of warmed to the software
i guess that s normal for any site... plus their supposed to be getting resizeable tables soon. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Mar 2009, 11:24pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Location: windsor/detroit
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| auto rebuy would be nice too |
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Posted: Sun, 05 Apr 2009, 12:29pm Post subject:
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Just had my 1st losing session since making that post about being careful not to spew. I have to say, it's been a pretty awesome run.
I haven't gone robusto or anything, but I've managed to book a profit in something like 22 of 25 sessions, some small and some pretty decent-sized. It's been mainly at lowstakes since poker isn't my focus right now, but I have to say it's amazing what 3 elements have done for me :
-fear of losing, hence only playing when the games compel me to
-stakes that won't hurt even if I drop a few buyins (may seem counterproductive to above point, but minimizes tilt if things go bad)
-leaving my ego completely at the door |
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Posted: Sun, 05 Apr 2009, 4:32pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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ok gonna have to regroup after back-to-back meh sessions. made my 1st all-out spew in quite a while, 4 betting small then snap-calling a shove pre w A9s in a spot with no history (wtf??!!).
just gotta keep it simple. |
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Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2009, 7:31am Post subject:
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| hmm was up 6k on tonight s session then lost 25 consecutive BI s at plo |
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Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2009, 7:47am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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ok that was kind of pointless but one of my bigger days just turned into my biggest loss ever so all i wanna say is
FUUUUUUUUUUCK |
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Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2009, 9:54am Post subject:
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| Genitruc wrote: | | hmm was up 6k on tonight s session then lost 25 consecutive BI s at plo |
wtf stop loss imo?
what stakes were 25 buyins? grosss |
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Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2009, 11:52am Post subject:
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he's baaaaack!!! +1 for big losing days yest
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Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2009, 1:50pm Post subject:
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haha i was at some GOLDEN late-night tables and was sitting with 3.9k euros at a 2-4 table and 400bb + stacks at 3 separate 1-2 tables (so actually maybe i was up way more than 6k??? fk me) then lightning struck and i lost 3 consecutive 300bb pots at the 2-4 table with the nuts all in pre or on the flop (the worst was losing JJxx to KK xx ai on J26r for 2.2k euro pot) and suddenly BAM it s all gone on the 2-4 table.
i tilt-left my other tables then as I was closing the software I forgot that I had 900 euros on ANOTHER 1-2 table and the biggest fish from the 2-4 table that had hit n run me decided to sit vs me.
1 hour later he left with a 1500bb stack. it wasn t pretty.
Shitty to hear you had a bad one yest too alex.
Oh well, I m working off of 25 for 28 winning sessions since I started back up in mid august. Last night hurt but time to get back at it and grind away bitches. |
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Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2009, 2:17pm Post subject:
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just reviewed that session mentally from last night and realized that I was up 7k euros at my high point, which makes it even sicker to think that I ended up down 5k euros, all at 1-2 and 2-4!!!
i haven t been so hellbent on winning it back in a looooong time so I think I ll post in this thread with updates for my next 4 or 5 session on how i m feeling, just to write shit down and ensure that i m not getting tilty in that WINITBACKNOW mentality.
not gonna move up instakes or anything (although it s pretty fkign tempting), just gonna try to stay with the simple, straightforward grind.
update coming in a few hours |
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Posted: Fri, 18 Sep 2009, 10:26pm Post subject:
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update after day 1 of recovery :
just grinded about 4.5k hands and played pretty awesome. amazingly, biggest pot of the day was losing 1.1k euro PLO hand to a 1 outer but oh well, feel like I had my A game for a good portion of the huge grind.
Made back some of last night s losses so hopefully i m back on the runhot bandwagon. also was fun watching Rav go deep in 4 tourneys including a win in the 100$ rebuy on InterPoker and final table (as we speak) of the stars 33$ rebuy as well as 11th in the 100$ rebuy. |
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Posted: Sat, 19 Sep 2009, 9:42am Post subject:
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| Genitruc wrote: | update after day 1 of recovery :
just grinded about 4.5k hands and played pretty awesome. amazingly, biggest pot of the day was losing 1.1k euro PLO hand to a 1 outer but oh well, feel like I had my A game for a good portion of the huge grind.
Made back some of last night s losses so hopefully i m back on the runhot bandwagon. also was fun watching Rav go deep in 4 tourneys including a win in the 100$ rebuy on InterPoker and final table (as we speak) of the stars 33$ rebuy as well as 11th in the 100$ rebuy. |
Good job on the comeback dude! You should post some hands in the PLO section.
Oh and good job Rav! You should get an OP imo. |
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Posted: Wed, 23 Sep 2009, 1:07am Post subject:
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have played really, really well the past few days and all I have to show for it is a mini-downswing. highlights include losing A5 to JJ ai on 2344 turn 250bb's deep and KK to KJ on AKQ board ai on flop 200bb s deep... AA is my biggest loser... ETC ETC BLAHBLAH RUN BAD
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i m playing pretty fking well and not too worried. so i guess this is a win, not a fail. things will turn around. |
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Posted: Wed, 23 Sep 2009, 11:39am Post subject:
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| Genitruc wrote: | have played really, really well the past few days and all I have to show for it is a mini-downswing. highlights include losing A5 to JJ ai on 2344 turn 250bb's deep and KK to KJ on AKQ board ai on flop 200bb s deep... AA is my biggest loser... ETC ETC BLAHBLAH RUN BAD
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i m playing pretty fking well and not too worried. so i guess this is a win, not a fail. things will turn around. |
Where are you findin these donks that are stacking off so deep with such nonsense? geeez.. I miss those! stakes? |
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Posted: Wed, 23 Sep 2009, 11:55am Post subject:
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bossssssssssss
mainly 2-4 euro but the beats lately have been at 3-6 euro |
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Posted: Wed, 23 Sep 2009, 7:00pm Post subject:
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just grinded a pretty awesome awesome session
i dropped 4k but I feel like I hit a new high point in my game.
the losses aren t really worth talking about but, just in case ppl care about hearing about grossness, today s sesh at 2-4 and 3-6 included losing :
AA to KQ ai pre in a blind war
JJ to 66 vs the same guy ai pre in a blind war
AK in a rr pot vs same villain AI on turn vs his 89 that called full pot on flop w gutter on K56 board and nutted turn
losing 400bb s with sets vs draws AI on flop
and biggest hand of the day was 3 betting the flop w 55 on 346dd board 2.6k euros deep at 3-6. villain calls and turn is offsuit 2
i pot it for 800 (1.3 buyins on turn lol) and villain snaps
riv is 6d completing flush and boat, villain insta shoves for 1.5k into 2.2k and I snap fold.
the regs were all laughing about me 12-tabling and challenging me to HU deathmatches... I m chatbanned for some reason so too bad I can t keep up the smacktalk.
Besides all of that, I finally feel like my confidence, hand-reading, tilt-control have come together so that I m willing to take on anybody at midstakes for as many hands as they want. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Sep 2009, 3:49am Post subject:
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Just played a few tables of 5-10 euro (about 1.7k usd). late night games looked golden and I destroyed them :
there were lots of bluff river shoves and value ownage.
i definitely felt like I had it coming after the way i ve run over the past 20k hands or so.
shipit. funny thin is only about 400 hands from that graph are 5-10 and the rest are 1-2... |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Sep 2009, 4:00am Post subject:
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BossMedia Game #1785348836: Table Table TH 3689 - €5.00/€10.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:19:51 - 2009/09/24
Seat 7: Sombrita!! (€2605.50)
Seat 9: Push8Push (€143.35)
Seat 10: HERO (€1082.00)
Seat 6: SER-AR (€397.93)
Seat 8: Klein (€2455.74)
Sombrita!! posts the big blind of €10.00
SER-AR posts the small blind of €5.00
HERO is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO  
Klein raises €35.00
Push8Push folds
HERO raises €98.75
SER-AR folds
Sombrita!! folds
Klein calls €98.75
*** FLOP ***   
Klein checks
HERO bets €159.37
Klein calls €159.37
*** TURN *** 
Klein checks
HERO checks
*** RIVER *** 
Klein bets €398.43
HERO goes all-in with €823.88
Klein folds
BossMedia Game #1785345835: Table Table TH 5885 - €5.00/€10.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:05:10 - 2009/09/24
Seat 2: NoFoldem^^ (€1589.05)
Seat 3: HERO (€1577.00)
Seat 5: Alex4EveRR (€477.25)
Seat 4: Sombrita!! (€1372.37)
Seat 1: ed66 (€794.73)
NoFoldem^^ posts the small blind of €5.00
HERO posts the big blind of €10.00
ed66 is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO  
Sombrita!! folds
Alex4EveRR raises €30.00
ed66 calls €30.00
NoFoldem^^ folds
HERO calls €30.00
*** FLOP ***  
HERO bets €71.25
Alex4EveRR folds
ed66 raises €142.50
HERO goes all-in with €1547.00
ed66 goes all-in with €764.73
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot €1621.46 | Rake €3.00
ed66 won (€0.00), mucks
NoFoldem^^ won (€0.00), mucks
HERO won (€1621.46), showed
BossMedia Game #1785344894: Table Table TH 5885 - €5.00/€10.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:00:23 - 2009/09/24
Seat 3: HERO (€1000.00)
Seat 5: Alex4EveRR (€453.50)
Seat 1: ed66 (€980.12)
Seat 2: NoFoldem^^ (€1527.05)
Seat 4: Sombrita!! (€1416.12)
Alex4EveRR posts the small blind of €5.00
ed66 posts the big blind of €10.00
Sombrita!! is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO  
NoFoldem^^ folds
HERO raises €35.00
Sombrita!! folds
Alex4EveRR folds
ed66 calls €35.00
*** FLOP ***  
ed66 bets €75.00
HERO raises €243.75
ed66 calls €243.75
*** TURN ***
ed66 bets €281.25
HERO goes all-in with €721.25
ed66 folds
BossMedia Game #1785345272: Table Table TH 3010 - £5.00/£10.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:02:21 - 2009/09/24
Seat 1: HERO (£1017.00)
Seat 2: NoFoldem^^ (£2526.50)
NoFoldem^^ posts the small blind of £5.00
HERO posts the big blind of £10.00
NoFoldem^^ is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO 
NoFoldem^^ raises £25.00
HERO raises £80.00
NoFoldem^^ calls £80.00
*** FLOP ***  
HERO bets £120.00
NoFoldem^^ calls £120.00
*** TURN *** 8c:
HERO bets £200.00
NoFoldem^^ calls £200.00
*** RIVER *** 
HERO goes all-in with £617.00
NoFoldem^^ folds |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Sep 2009, 2:48pm Post subject:
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| grinded a few K hands early this morning and felt great. ran bad but made the maniez. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Sep 2009, 4:15pm Post subject:
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Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 3299
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Location: Toronto'ish
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oh man... ppl are the hugest spazzjobs lol.
First AK hand, I think that is a horrible board to cbet, and you're almost never getting a fold and getting jammed a lot. You plan on b/c? River is... the kind of spazzy thing i'd do haha. Risky after his sizing though, I'd prob like it more if he bet less.
QJ hand - haha nice... I guess he had AJ or JT or something.
8Thh hand is weird - I mean you have direct odds to flat turn, but I suppose s hoving can't be bad if you actually do have FE, which apparently you do. Spazzzes. |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Sep 2009, 3:08am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| +19k in the past 24h hours |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Sep 2009, 8:25am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Toronto'ish
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| Genitruc wrote: | | +19k in the past 24h hours |
lol sick.. shippp it. how many hands? |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Sep 2009, 12:30pm Post subject:
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Posted: Fri, 25 Sep 2009, 12:49pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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looool
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Posted: Fri, 25 Sep 2009, 1:02pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 07 Oct 2008
Posts: 339
WPP: 64
Location: windsor/detroit
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| [x] chasing losses at higher stakes ftw |
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Posted: Fri, 25 Sep 2009, 5:53pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| btw griff in the AK hand from above I m not worried about winning the hand all that often on the flop... |
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FTR $200 Freeroll at ChiliPoker, November 22nd 14:00 ET
