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Genitruc
Post Posted: Fri, 06 Jun 2008, 6:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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no doubt donk, I am taking your ass down on the 12th

June so far ($/hand is optimal imo... been on a bit of a mini-vacation after finishing school) :

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Post Posted: Tue, 10 Jun 2008, 2:37am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I haven't posted in forever but I figured I'd make a detailed hand post just for fun.

First off, I don't win showdowns. This is kind of normal since I play a higher variance style but I'm pretty sure I've been generally running cold in '08. Here are some stats since April :



This is a hand that illustrates what I try to do in spots in spots where I choose higher variance routes.

This hand may seem easy, but I think it’s a spot where plenty of taggish regs miss value on the turn. Let’s go through the hand step-by-step :

Seat 1: FloppyDuc sits out
Seat 3: HERO ($340 in chips)
Seat 4: Marsdawg ($292 in chips)
Seat 5: lurcher01 ($95.56 in chips)
Seat 6: Jwmoon ($81.24 in chips)
Seat 7: ennitti ($200 in chips)
Seat 8: LETS_BUST ($199.75 in chips)
Seat 9: BIZZBUZZ ($253 in chips)
Seat 10: Damboland ($218.50 in chips)
Damboland: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Nine of Clubs Ten of Diamonds
Marsdawg: folds
lurcher01: folds
lurcher01 sits out
Jwmoon: calls $2 (ok so this is rarely very strong! No strong reads but usually this weak open-limp b.s. is small pp’s Ax or SC’s)
ennitti: calls $2
LETS_BUST: folds
BIZZBUZZ: folds
Damboland: folds
HERO: checks
----- FLOP ----- Eight of Diamonds Ten of Clubs Four of Spades
HERO: bets $5 (yawn)
Jwmoon: calls $5


OK. Let’s put villain on a range of hands. The important thing to do here is to assume villains are playing somewhat logically, i.e. protecting their big hands, not calling with total air, etc.

So his calling range imo looks something like :

-all mid connectors between 5x and 9x (56, 57, 67, 78, 89)
-weak made hands (4x, 8x and Tx)
-small PP’s that just wanna peel a turn and see if I continue
-strong straight draws that can make the nuts (79, J9, QJ, Q9)

When making this bet, the important question to ask yourself is “which turns can I profitably bet for value?” The answer lies in how strongly we weight his range to each of the above-mentioned categories. In this case, since I’m holding a ten, we have to discount the combinations of Tx, therefore making it less likely we’re value-towning ourselves if the turn bricks off. So I plan on betting most A and K turns. Obv I,ll be betting when I improve to 2 pr or trips and I’ll be bet-folding most mid-cards (things like 5, 6 or 7; if villain semi-bluff shoves then I’ll tip my cap to him… most players at these limits are loose and weak so I just expect to call me down)

ennitti: folds
----- TURN ----- Eight of Diamonds Ten of Clubs Four of Spades Ace of Hearts
HERO: bets $14

An interesting question is what to do when faced with a raise on this turn… Except in this spot. I’d fold to a raise here almost 100% of the time since most players have a default mentality of “he bet and A hi board, he must have something!” so they’ll rarely raise light.
lurcher01 sits back
Jwmoon: calls $14… the cool thing about the A on the turn is that it doesn’t really change anything in villain’s range since he now may have reason to believe he has sick implied odds with any str8 draw after I 2-barelled when the A hit the turn.

One consideration is that QJ just picked up a double-gutter and a hand like QJs is def a decent part of an unknown’s MP limping range. The plan is gonna usually be to check-evaluate the river. We’re not very worried at this point about villain having Ax since that would’ve been a total random float and we’d expect him to raise the turn when he made 2 pair with aces up.

----- RIVER ----- Eight of Diamonds Ten of Clubs Four of Spades Ace of Hearts Ace of Diamonds
HERO: checks Wow… what an awesome card. Now we’re pretty sure villain didn’t hit top pair on the turn. The question is whether or not to value-bet. I chose to check for the following reasons :

-bluffs will usually put out a lot of money to get me to fold, so I profit
-I can’t be sure how much money I’ll be able to extract from a hand like 78, so v betting would be VERY thin in this spot obv. Also I don’t expect a random villain to turn a hand like 4x or 7x into a bluff and put me into a tough spot.
-the hands that will feel compelled to bet when checked to (straight draws i.e. air) greatly outnumber the made hands that will pay me off (since I am holding a ten), so I think the value of check-call is far greater than the value of bet-fold

Jwmoon: bets $60.24 and is all-in
HERO: calls $60.24
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Jwmoon: shows Queen of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds (A Pair of Aces, Queen high)
HERO: shows Nine of Clubs Ten of Diamonds (Two Pairs, Aces and Tens, Nine high)
HERO collected $162.48 from Main pot

So this hand worked out pretty well. I see a lot of regs who auto-check this turn, thinking "I don't wanna build a pot vs this donkey's Ax that just sucked out on me". I think both the results for the hand and the ranges I assigned villain's holdings show why it's probably more profitable to bet this turn, even OOP.

I Over the next few days, I’ll try and post some other hands, both that were awesome and that didn’t work out so well, with detailed analysis.
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nice post, ill try keep your thoughts in mind
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God, I have so much to learn about poker still.

Keep these posts up, it was great Smile.
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just had a glance over your blog. its a soid read imo, keep it up and ill try give my thought son some hands.
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Post Posted: Thu, 19 Jun 2008, 7:25am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Playing to get unstuck is bad.

Problem is, there's nothing more satisfying than turning a bad session into a nice win.

Tonight, I sat down and played some PLO100 and 200. I think my game is decent, although I'm def losing money to the regs, and things started out o.k. PLO being PLO, I ran into some variance that wasn't fun. So after dropping 4 buyins at the plo200 table I decided to leave it and go "get unstuck" at NLHE.

I don't track PLO with PokerTracker but here are the nlhe hands after deciding it was time to win some money. Things started out kind of meh but I made some pretty big folds that I think were decent and felt like I was playing well

This hand was pretty gross. There’s a small % of times where villain is pushing me off a split or turning a 2pr hand into a bluff but the insta-shove seemed strong here. Bleh :

Table "Wollongong" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: Dani1983 ($262.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Chr311270 ($105.05 in chips)
Seat 3: 3musk07 ($206.44 in chips)
Seat 4: Sm11thos ($247.54 in chips)
Seat 5: Christin8 ($117 in chips)
Seat 6: aura135 ($169.30 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO ($411.65 in chips)
Seat 8: msotown1 ($294.43 in chips)
Seat 9: n1sarah ($188 in chips)
Seat 10: thanksG ($219.85 in chips)
Sm11thos: posts small blind $1
Christin8: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Queen of Hearts Nine of Hearts
aura135: folds
HERO: raises to $7
msotown1: folds
n1sarah: folds
thanksG: folds
Dani1983: calls $7
Chr311270: calls $7
3musk07: folds
Sm11thos: calls $6
Christin8: folds
----- FLOP ----- Jack of Hearts Ten of Clubs Two of Clubs
Sm11thos: checks
HERO: bets $22
Dani1983: folds
Chr311270: folds
Sm11thos: calls $22
----- TURN ----- Jack of Hearts Ten of Clubs Two of Clubs Eight of Diamonds
Sm11thos: checks
HERO: bets $61
Sm11thos: calls $61
----- RIVER ----- Jack of Hearts Ten of Clubs Two of Clubs Eight of Diamonds Seven of Clubs
Sm11thos: bets $157.54 and is all-in
HERO: folds
Returned uncalled bets $157.54 to Sm11thos
Sm11thos: doesn't show hand
Sm11thos collected $193 from Main pot

Here’s another marginal hand. There are several possibilities here both on the flop and the turn. I don’t think I ever get bluffed on this river…

Seat 1: Dani1983 ($332.95 in chips)
Seat 2: basket114 ($197 in chips)
Seat 3: 3musk07 ($263.65 in chips)
Seat 4: blackhand ($43.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Christin8 ($109.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Atara ($196.95 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO ($504.15 in chips)
Seat 8: msotown1 ($375.33 in chips)
Seat 9: n1sarah ($189.75 in chips)
Seat 10: thanksG sits out
3musk07: posts small blind $1
blackhand: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Ace of Hearts King of Hearts
Christin8: folds
Atara: folds
Christin8 sits out
HERO: raises to $7
msotown1: calls $7
n1sarah: folds
Dani1983: folds
basket114: folds
3musk07: calls $6
blackhand: folds
----- FLOP ----- Ace of Diamonds Two of Diamonds Five of Spades
3musk07: bets $20
HERO: calls $20
msotown1: folds
----- TURN ----- Ace of Diamonds Two of Diamonds Five of Spades Two of Spades
3musk07: bets $50
HERO: calls $50
----- RIVER ----- Ace of Diamonds Two of Diamonds Five of Spades Two of Spades Jack of Diamonds
3musk07: bets $186.65 and is all-in
HERO: folds
Returned uncalled bets $186.65 to 3musk07
3musk07: doesn't show hand
3musk07 collected $160 from Main pot


One thing I do from time to time that is very uncommon (and completely unnecessary to being a winning player at these stakes) is check-raise the river as a bluff. I'd like to think that I do it with a balanced range, but much of the time it just comes down to three things :

-villain is a reg who is capable of folding relatively strong hands

-villain knows I make aggro calls so value-bets me thinly when I look to be in check-call mode

-Spidey sense (lol but it's true)

I'm only talking about this because in reviewing my session, I noticed I had taken this line with two pretty big bluffs tonight. I felt really confident with both of them based on table dynamics and timing but I'll post the raw HH's just for fun. Both villains were on the tighter side of tagg and thinking. Another thing to notice (and this is where lots of ppl disagree with this move) is that there's a decent chance I'm good in both of these spots but I really prefer raising to calling since I think when I call I'm paying off slightly better hands a decent % of the time that are very hard-pressed to call :

Seat 1: 3musk07 ($446.90 in chips)
Seat 2: P0kah8 ($40 in chips)
Seat 3: 2BigFish ($177 in chips)
Seat 4: Teegaa1 ($270.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Mickaa ($1669.21 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO ($465.50 in chips)
Mickaa: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO King of Diamonds King of Hearts
3musk07: raises to $8
P0kah8: folds
2BigFish: folds
Teegaa1: folds
Mickaa: folds
HERO: raises to $32
3musk07: calls $24
----- FLOP ----- Six of Hearts Ace of Hearts Five of Hearts
HERO: checks
3musk07: checks
----- TURN ----- Six of Hearts Ace of Hearts Five of Hearts Five of Spades
HERO: checks
3musk07: bets $24
HERO: calls $24
----- RIVER ----- Six of Hearts Ace of Hearts Five of Hearts Five of Spades Two of Diamonds
HERO: checks
3musk07: bets $74
HERO: raises to $409.50 and is all-in
3musk07: folds
Returned uncalled bets $335.50 to HERO
HERO: doesn't show hand
HERO collected $258 from Main pot

Seat 1: Dani1983 ($333.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Chr311270 ($200.35 in chips)
Seat 3: 3musk07 ($200.54 in chips)
Seat 4: Sm11thos ($145.77 in chips)
Seat 5: Christin8 ($117 in chips)
Seat 6: aura135 ($176.15 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO ($311.20 in chips)
Seat 8: msotown1 ($292.43 in chips)
Seat 9: n1sarah ($228 in chips)
Seat 10: thanksG ($187.85 in chips)
aura135: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Ace of Diamonds Ten of Diamonds
msotown1: folds
n1sarah: folds
thanksG: folds
Dani1983: raises to $8
Chr311270: folds
3musk07: folds
Sm11thos: calls $8
Christin8: folds
aura135: folds
HERO: calls $6
----- FLOP ----- Four of Diamonds Ace of Spades Jack of Hearts
HERO: checks
Dani1983: bets $18
Sm11thos: folds
HERO: calls $18
----- TURN ----- Four of Diamonds Ace of Spades Jack of Hearts Three of Hearts
HERO: checks
Dani1983: checks
----- RIVER ----- Four of Diamonds Ace of Spades Jack of Hearts Three of Hearts Three of Diamonds
HERO: checks
Dani1983: bets $42
HERO: raises to $285.20 and is all-in
Dani1983: folds
Returned uncalled bets $243.20 to HERO
HERO: doesn't show hand
HERO collected $142 from Main pot




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Post Posted: Thu, 19 Jun 2008, 8:47am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Why do you bluff that last one when you have a decent showdown hand?

Nice run, pity the 2nd 600 hands didnt go as well as the first 600 Smile.
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Post Posted: Fri, 20 Jun 2008, 4:19am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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bjsaust wrote:
Why do you bluff that last one when you have a decent showdown hand?

Nice run, pity the 2nd 600 hands didnt go as well as the first 600 Smile.
I think by the river there's a decent chance he's either bluffing or betting AK/AQ that was pot-controlling turn in case I had a monster after c/calling the dry flop.

He likely bets AAA or JJJ 100% of the time on the turn to protect vs random str8 or FD's and is rly rly hard-pressed to call with AK AQ. +He has almost no 3x hands in his opening range besides quadzillas.
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Tonight’s session was pretty frustrating and swongy. I started off with a couple brutal coolers and almost stopped to do some flips with my friend Ben.

Instead, I decided to just grind it out. Just as things started slowing down (breaking even instead of losing with sets), Ben convinced me to put my entire stars roll (12$ ftw) on the line at a plo25 table vs him. While 8-tabling on a laptop, IMing and trying to open Riggederstars, I almost lost it, but I’m glad I didn’t. I turned my 12$ into 80ish (mainly random victims but prob half from Ben) and the good karma spilled over to the tables, where I was able to book a small win.

2 hands from the session, a 3-barrel (where I prob pushed villain off a very similar hand or maybe just a busted FD) and a big call after getting a pretty strong timing tell.

3-barrel :

Table "Wollongong" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: 3musk07 ($940.31 in chips)
Seat 2: Melonaer ($189 in chips)
Seat 3: Ultgamb ($243.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Strudel ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: The_miko ($85.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Noltek2 ($42.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Tehini ($88.85 in chips)
Seat 8: Tivoli3 ($234.20 in chips)
Seat 9: HERO ($280.75 in chips)
Seat 10: basket114 ($180 in chips)
Strudel: posts small blind $1
The_miko: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Jack of Spades Ten of Spades
Noltek2: folds
Tehini: folds
Tivoli3: folds
HERO: raises to $7
basket114: folds
3musk07: calls $7
Melonaer: folds
Ultgamb: folds
Strudel: folds
The_miko: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- King of Diamonds Three of Hearts Jack of Hearts
The_miko: checks
HERO: bets $18
3musk07: calls $18
The_miko: folds
----- TURN ----- King of Diamonds Three of Hearts Jack of Hearts Six of Diamonds
HERO: bets $42
3musk07: calls $42
----- RIVER ----- King of Diamonds Three of Hearts Jack of Hearts Six of Diamonds Queen of Spades
HERO: bets $124
3musk07: folds
Returned uncalled bets $124 to HERO
HERO: doesn't show hand
HERO collected $139 from Main pot



RapedUrSoulament :

Table "Heliosphere" Seat 9 is the button.
Seat 2: HERO ($220.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Mully123 sits out
Seat 6: peej32 ($71.01 in chips)
Seat 9: catD10 ($215 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
peej32: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Queen of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds
catD10: calls $2
HERO: raises to $11
peej32: calls $9
catD10: calls $9
----- FLOP ----- Nine of Clubs Two of Hearts Seven of Spades
HERO: bets $25
peej32: folds
catD10: calls $25
----- TURN ----- Nine of Clubs Two of Hearts Seven of Spades Three of Diamonds
Mrs_begg joins the table at seat #5
HERO: checks
catD10: checks
----- RIVER ----- Nine of Clubs Two of Hearts Seven of Spades Three of Diamonds Four of Diamonds
HERO: checks
catD10: bets $50
HERO: calls $50
----- SHOW DOWN -----
catD10: shows Six of Clubs Eight of Diamonds (High Card Nine)
HERO: shows Queen of Clubs Jack of Diamonds (High Card Queen)
HERO collected $181 from Main pot


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Q high is good lol
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Da GOAT wrote:
Q high is good lol
no shit lol how would I have felt if he had value-towned me with KJ!
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Genitruc wrote:
Da GOAT wrote:
Q high is good lol
no shit lol how would I have felt if he had value-towned me with KJ!


Like a Bitch!!
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Villain is Alexos. Not sure which is worse (or sicker?), his shove or my call. Fwiw, I’ve seen him play very very spewy preflop at these stakes, always looking to be the one to get the money in (i.e. 4-bet shoving A6o to my 3-bet and a cold-caller from the blinds after he raised from the cutoff).

Game #5937418093: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) - 2008/06/26 - 08:44:46 (UK)
Table "Navy" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: dukatos ($203 in chips)
Seat 2: kArmAstAr ($211.45 in chips)
Seat 3: P0kah8 ($55 in chips)
Seat 4: HERO ($412.21 in chips)
Seat 5: Alexos ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: Selcuk81 ($182.86 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Alexos: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Ace of Diamonds Three of Diamonds
Selcuk81: folds
dukatos: folds
kArmAstAr: folds
P0kah8: folds
HERO: raises to $8
Alexos: raises to $26
HERO: raises to $56
Alexos: raises to $200 and is all-in
HERO: calls $144
----- FLOP ----- Five of Diamonds Three of Hearts Jack of Hearts
----- TURN ----- Five of Diamonds Three of Hearts Jack of Hearts Seven of Diamonds
----- RIVER ----- Five of Diamonds Three of Hearts Jack of Hearts Seven of Diamonds Three of Clubs
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Alexos: shows Nine of Clubs Jack of Diamonds (Two Pairs, Jacks and Threes, Nine high)
HERO: shows Ace of Diamonds Three of Diamonds (Three of a kind, Threes, Ace high)
HERO collected $397 from Main pot
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well, we should also note that I didnt know you knew it was me... if I did know that I would never expect you to fold to my shove Razz Also you insta 3bet so i figured you dont have QQ+ ? Also you hitting that 3 is def rigged

NH, but u should posts the other overbet ownages Very Happy
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u mean all the times you turn/rivered me?

pfft that s way too standard to post Wink

also, I was fking waaaaaaaaaaaasted and just running out of control all over the place

it was fun
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Seat 1: dukatos sits out
Seat 4: HERO ($777.86 in chips)
Seat 5: Alexos ($215.40 in chips)
Alexos: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Queen of Diamonds Ten of Spades
Alexos: raises to $6
HERO: calls $4
----- FLOP ----- Queen of Hearts Ace of Diamonds Three of Clubs
HERO: checks
Alexos: bets $8
HERO: calls $8
----- TURN ----- Queen of Hearts Ace of Diamonds Three of Clubs Five of Clubs
HERO: checks
Alexos: bets $22
HERO: calls $22
----- RIVER ----- Queen of Hearts Ace of Diamonds Three of Clubs Five of Clubs Eight of Spades
HERO: checks
Alexos: bets $96
HERO: calls $96
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Alexos: shows Five of Hearts Queen of Spades (Two Pairs, Queens and Fives, Ace high)
HERO: mucks hand Queen of Diamonds Ten of Spades
Alexos collected $263 from Main pot

Seat 1: dukatos sits out
Seat 4: HERO ($768.06 in chips)
Seat 5: Alexos ($206.40 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Alexos: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Two of Diamonds Three of Diamonds
HERO: calls $1
Alexos: checks
----- FLOP ----- Jack of Clubs Jack of Spades Two of Hearts
Alexos: checks
HERO: bets $4
Alexos: calls $4
----- TURN ----- Jack of Clubs Jack of Spades Two of Hearts Ten of Clubs
Alexos: checks
HERO: bets $7
Alexos: calls $7
----- RIVER ----- Jack of Clubs Jack of Spades Two of Hearts Ten of Clubs Four of Clubs
Alexos: bets $40
HERO: calls $40
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Alexos: shows Two of Clubs Nine of Clubs (A Flush, Jack high)
HERO: mucks hand Two of Diamonds Three of Diamonds
Alexos collected $105 from Main pot
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I'll preface this post with a graph of my last 50k hands at teh lowstakes :



Nothing sicko, but def solid results.

Now today. I managed to drop 3.5k in 2k hands without playing a single hand of nl500.

I dropped 1.4k to a single villain playing HU at nl200. This is a pretty bad sign, but fwiw I felt like I was playing pretty well and I def felt like I had an edge on the guy.

To be honest, I sat with the player - who I think is a decent - just for the challenge of beating up on a reg. Ppl were coming in and out at the table but it was pretty much HU for about 45 minutes.

Obv I'd be much better off just playing any medium-soft nl500 game I can find and it's probably a bad result of my BR nittiness, since I am sitting with over 100 buyins for nl200. Err... I WAS sitting on over 100 buyins for nl200 at the start of the day.

I'm not even really tilted but I thought I'd post some hands from the HU match and see if anybody has any input.

Villain was a pretty laggy reg who seemed to RR a pretty strong range but didn't like to fold to 3-bets.

Here was the 1st big pot we played :

At this point he had no reason to think I was overaggro or spewy. I’m 3-betting a very polarized range of junk and big hands to combat his loose 3-bet calling that will easily put me in lots of tough spots with air if I c-bet a decent frequency.

1)

Table "Gas" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($228 in chips)
Seat 3: abunga ($99.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($328.28 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Seven of Diamonds Eight of Spades
Villain: raises to $8
HERO: raises to $24
Villain: calls $16
----- FLOP ----- Jack of Hearts Nine of Diamonds Five of Diamonds
HERO: bets $35
abunga sits out
Villain: calls $35
----- TURN ----- Jack of Hearts Nine of Diamonds Five of Diamonds Eight of Hearts
HERO: bets $81
Villain: raises to $269.28 and is all-in
HERO: is all-in $88
Returned uncalled bets $100.28 to Villain
----- RIVER ----- Jack of Hearts Nine of Diamonds Five of Diamonds Eight of Hearts Four of Spades
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Villain: shows Ace of Hearts Nine of Clubs (A Pair of Nines, Ace high)
HERO: shows Seven of Diamonds Eight of Spades (A Pair of Eights, Jack high)
Villain collected $455 from Main pot

So right away, I see that he’s not afraid of getting it in light, and my image is kind of shot.

This next hand is kind of gross. At the time, I felt like his range was polarized to 333 and draws. I didn t think about the fact that he could have Kx with hearts that would prob snap the turn, figuring that I'd shove the flop with better made hands.

2)

Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($218.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($530.58 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Three of Clubs Nine of Clubs
HERO: raises to $7
Villain: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- Three of Hearts King of Diamonds Queen of Hearts
Villain: checks
HERO: bets $11
Villain: raises to $28
HERO: calls $17
----- TURN ----- Three of Hearts King of Diamonds Queen of Hearts Six of Spades
Villain: bets $46
HERO: raises to $183.90 and is all-in
Villain: calls $137.90
----- RIVER ------ Three of Hearts King of Diamonds Queen of Hearts Six of Spades Two of Diamonds
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows Three of Clubs Nine of Clubs (A Pair of Threes, King high)
Villain: shows King of Clubs Queen of Spades (Two Pairs, Kings and Queens, Six high)
Villain collected $436.80 from Main pot

This next big hand seemed kind of standard to me. I dunno, I’ve been playing mainly 6 max lately because none of the regs at these stakes sit with me until it s 3-handed so my only experience has been with drunk fish. Maybe this is spewy?

3)

Table "Gas" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($297.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($668.03 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Queen of Clubs Jack of Clubs
Villain: raises to $6
HERO: raises to $23
Villain: calls $17
----- FLOP ----- Five of Diamonds Seven of Clubs Eight of Clubs
HERO: bets $32
Villain: calls $32
----- TURN ----- Five of Diamonds Seven of Clubs Eight of Clubs Five of Diamonds
HERO: checks
Villain: bets $48
HERO: raises to $242.75 and is all-in
Villain: calls $194.75
----- RIVER ----- Five of Diamonds Seven of Clubs Eight of Clubs Five of Diamonds King of Hearts
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows Queen of Clubs Jack of Clubs (A Pair of Fives, King high)
Villain: shows Five of Hearts Six of Spades (Three of a kind, Fives, King high)
Villain collected $594.50 from Main pot

4)

Once again, not sure what to say here. He hasn’t slowplayed anything preflop (that I’ve seen at showdown) and he can’t really have any non-set made hands here… or at least that s what I thought :

Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($228.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($948.78 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO King of Clubs Three of Spades
HERO: raises to $7
Villain: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- King of Diamonds Two of Diamonds Seven of Spades
Villain: checks
HERO: bets $11
Villain: raises to $28
HERO: calls $17
----- TURN ----- King of Diamonds Two of Diamonds Seven of Spades Jack of Hearts
Villain: bets $52
HERO: raises to $193.30 and is all-in
Villain: calls $141.30
----- RIVER ----- King of Diamonds Two of Diamonds Seven of Spades Jack of Hearts Five of Diamonds
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows King of Clubs Three of Spades (A Pair of Kings, Jack high)
Villain: shows Ace of Spades King of Hearts (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
Villain collected $455.60 from Main pot

5)

Now I’ve grinded him back a bit (he’s been calling me down really light and I haven’t been bluffing much) and this happens. Nothing to say, just kind of a throw-up-in-your-mouth-that-this-happens-when-running-bad special :

Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($481.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($886.78 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Ten of Spades Ten of Hearts
HERO: raises to $7
Villain: raises to $20
HERO: calls $13
----- FLOP ----- Queen of Clubs Eight of Spades Ten of Diamonds
Villain: bets $27
HERO: raises to $92
Villain: raises to $178
HERO: raises to $461.40 and is all-in
Villain: calls $283.40
----- TURN ----- Queen of Clubs Eight of Spades Ten of Diamonds King of Hearts
----- RIVER ----- Queen of Clubs Eight of Spades Ten of Diamonds King of Hearts Ace of Diamonds
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows Ten of Spades Ten of Hearts (Three of a kind, Tens, Ace high)
Villain: shows Queen of Diamonds Queen of Spades (Three of a kind, Queens, Ace high)
Villain collected $961.80 from Main pot

Obviously, that was the nail in my coffin. Here’s the last 100bb+ pot. I misread my hand and thought I had a straight, but I really don’t mind this shove on this board even if I knew that I only had Q high :

6)

Game #6072363173: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) - 2008/07/09 - 04:47:22 (UK)
Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($205.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($1361.18 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Queen of Hearts Five of Hearts
HERO: raises to $7
Villain: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- Six of Clubs Nine of Diamonds Seven of Hearts
Villain: checks
HERO: bets $11
Villain: raises to $28
HERO: calls $17
----- TURN ----- Six of Clubs Nine of Diamonds Seven of Hearts Four of Spades
Villain: bets $49
HERO: raises to $170.30 and is all-in
Villain: calls $121.30
----- RIVER ----- Six of Clubs Nine of Diamonds Seven of Hearts Four of Spades Ace of Diamonds
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows Queen of Hearts Five of Hearts (High Card Ace)
Villain: shows Nine of Clubs Six of Spades (Two Pairs, Nines and Sixes, Ace high)
Villain collected $409.60 from Main pot

I’d love to hear any comments from ppl who have more experience playing HU vs regs.
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fuck me

just as i m moving up to nl500, i find a way to lose 5k at nl200l, 300 and 400 in 2 days with a stellar showdown win % of 29% in 5k hands. Just like that my InterPoker bankroll goes from 21k to 16k and I lose all momentum heading into a move to nl500.


if i plateau at these fucking lame limits I'm seriously just gonna... Well, I dunno what I'm gonna do, but it s gonna involve frustration, alcohol and recklessness.

fuck
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fuck InterPoker imo, and fuck july
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Alexos wrote:
fuck InterPoker imo, and fuck july
this
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Genitruc wrote:
fuck me

just as i m moving up to nl500, i find a way to lose 5k at nl200l, 300 and 400 in 2 days with a stellar showdown win % of 29% in 5k hands. Just like that my InterPoker bankroll goes from 21k to 16k and I lose all momentum heading into a move to nl500.


if i plateau at these fucking lame limits I'm seriously just gonna... Well, I dunno what I'm gonna do, but it s gonna involve frustration, alcohol and recklessness.

fuck
me



lol.. man.. change the numbers from nl500 to nl1k and switch around some other numbers.. and yah.. sounds pretty on par with how I feel right about now!

gl man, you'll recover!
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Right now I'm as tilted as I've ever been.

Played 1480 hands just now. It started off decent...



Also, it feels like every time I win a big pot, it's cuz I make a great call. Nothing is easy, etc.

ads hjkasdjkl;dasfj d;klasj ;kadsj f;askdl ja;dslk jf;asdk jfads; hfa;sdfhaew;kuhfvdkjfhvjdsf;lhv

Here are the two biggest pots I won today. Seems like the only fucking way I can win a stack is by owning souls:

Game #6100721113: Hold'em NL (£1/£2) - 2008/07/11 - 22:46:10 (UK)
Table "Atshoa" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: pb63668 (£202.78 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO (£211.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Oscar06 (£434.15 in chips)
Seat 4: scotty204 (£157.98 in chips)
Seat 5: stabec (£197 in chips)
Seat 6: OwnYrSoul (£406.40 in chips)
pb63668: posts small blind £1
HERO: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Ten of Clubs King of Spades
Oscar06: folds
scotty204: raises to £4
stabec: folds
OwnYrSoul: calls £4
pb63668: calls £3
HERO: calls £2
----- FLOP ----- Five of Clubs Eight of Diamonds King of Clubs
pb63668: checks
HERO: bets £13
scotty204: calls £13
OwnYrSoul: folds
pb63668: calls £13
----- TURN ----- Five of Clubs Eight of Diamonds King of Clubs Jack of Hearts
pb63668: checks
HERO: checks
scotty204: bets £8
pb63668: calls £8
HERO: raises to £51
scotty204: calls £43
pb63668: folds
----- RIVER ----- Five of Clubs Eight of Diamonds King of Clubs Jack of Hearts Six of Diamonds
HERO: checks
scotty204: bets £89.98 and is all-in
HERO: calls £89.98
----- SHOW DOWN -----
scotty204: shows Seven of Spades Eight of Spades (A Pair of Eights, King high)
HERO: shows Ten of Clubs King of Spades (A Pair of Kings, Jack high)
HERO collected £341.96 from Main pot

Game #6098661853: Hold'em NL (£1/£2) - 2008/07/11 - 21:22:27 (UK)
Table "Taunton" Seat 9 is the button.
Seat 2: basket114 (£197 in chips)
Seat 3: Chavinder (£102.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Pau270995 (£91.80 in chips)
Seat 7: who_the_h (£176.20 in chips)
Seat 8: Nick9fe (£267.90 in chips)
Seat 9: HERO (£200 in chips)
Seat 10: Simmel (£198 in chips)
Simmel: posts small blind £1
basket114: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO King of Clubs Jack of Diamonds
Chavinder: folds
Pau270995: folds
who_the_h: folds
Nick9fe: folds
xXXXx joins the table at seat #5
HERO: raises to £7
Simmel: calls £6
basket114: folds
----- FLOP ----- King of Spades Nine of Spades Two of Diamonds
Simmel: checks
HERO: bets £12
Simmel: raises to £38
HERO: calls £26
----- TURN ----- King of Spades Nine of Spades Two of Diamonds Ace of Hearts
Simmel: bets £80
HERO: raises to £155 and is all-in
Simmel: is all-in £73
Returned uncalled bets £2 to HERO
----- RIVER ----- King of Spades Nine of Spades Two of Diamonds Ace of Hearts Ten of Hearts
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows King of Clubs Jack of Diamonds (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
Simmel: shows Jack of Spades Ten of Spades (A Pair of Tens, Ace high)
HERO collected £395 from Main pot



I made a 5-bet shove after I got min 4-bet by chaotica after making an obvious squeeze. I did it with Kx suited and got snapped off by TT.

After that I figured it would be time to get paid off cuz of my image and just go with AQ+ preflop vs him but, instead, in the last 2 orbits, I got it in Co vs Btn my AQ to chaotica's AK, and then shoved over a flop raise on the drawiest flop ever with BD nut flushdraw and 2nd pair top kicker. Board was KT7cc and I had AcTx.

Villain had Ak obv that he had flatted pre with

I seriously felt like I played great for this entire session... and I dropped 2k... and still didn't play a fucking hand of nl500

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The fact that I'm so tilted by this downswing is proof to me that I'm nowhere near ready to move up.
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nl500 so far imo

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bout time imo
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Thats kinda hot man.
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43ptBB/100!!!!
definitely sustainable, nh
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If only I had won a showdown in the past two months at limits lower than nl500 I might have something going...
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I'm gonna be away from my laptop for about 10 days this month and I've just gotten over/am getting through some personal stuff so I've decided to post a few simple goals for the month of August :

-play 25k hands, at least 15k at nl500 (I'm overrolled but whatever ; I'm happier that way)

-play as nitty as possible, only spew in great spots to spew... so don't spew

-take a couple shots at nl1k when the games look awesome

My life has been a roller-coaster lately and I've really avoided playing when I felt out of whack. That's pretty much why I only got 22k hands in after having played 15k by July 15th.

Hopefully I can be pretty focused and productive ; I feel like my game is better than it's ever been and I can't wait to kick things into high gear.

Hope everyone is doing as well as possible. GL for August.
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just played a quick session

I guess I've cooled off a bit at nl500 over my past 500 hands?



p.s. Bottom set no goot Alexos
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such a donk loll
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Haha sick man... hope you keep up the winrate! Smile

good folds today too.. I had the nutsss
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griffey24 wrote:
Haha sick man... hope you keep up the winrate! Smile

good folds today too.. I had the nutsss
u have no idea how close i came to raising turn in the hand you had J8ss
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I obviously need to get to 500nl as quickly as possible...
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GOING ON A CRUUUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIISE IMO
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omgggg ahhaha... wish i coulda played... see u miami imo!!
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I guess days like this are part of building a roll worth speaking about


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I guess days like this are part of building a roll worth speaking about





Ooooooooh man, that's like my kind of day! Lose 10 buyins in the morning, and make it back in the evening. HAHA... good job sir, nice comeback!

Oh and congrats on winning the cruise, hopefully I make it out there too!
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aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh adsklfja l;dsk;jfalsd j;asdkj asd`jlads jkl
sdaj kdasfj k aldsads;k jads jadsl;k jads; aj;aj s; adjs;k sad jasdkjasdk jasdkjads jksdak; jkasd;fas

I haven't been this tilted by somebody in I don't know how long

I'm too pissed to waste my time converting the hands but SERIOUSLY ADSFLJK; KL;SADJ;KASDJ;KADSJK;AS J;ASDF ;JADS ;JADS

I'm having a good session, sitting at a 2-5 fullring table with 2.7k

This weird and terrible semi-reg fish named "LETS_BUST" sits down and limp-calls 59cc utg and stacks my KK on 59Thh board. OK cool

After giving most of my money away, he decides to limp-call QThh utg and stacks my AA getting it in on T42 rainbow flop.

So now my 2.7k stack is down to about 1.6k and he's sitting on about 1.2k.

He limps again and I punish with 99.

We get all in on 459hh flop for a 2.5k pot + some guy drawing dead for an extra buyin of dead money w QQ and no flush redraw.

Obv he spikes the riv and ships the pot. Looking at someone's stack hasn't tilted me like this in forever asdf jkal;asd jkf;lJAKLSL;DFJ ADS JL;LKFASJD ;AADSA;SDJ ;SAD
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FADSJ
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ASDJ K
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If that's not tilt-worthy, I don't know what is... That sucks man.


blah blah... Most of the time...blah blah, variance fucking sucks sometimes.
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hehe thanks chris

I settled down pretty quickly ; still made about 1k on the session, but MAN could it have been a monster day.
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Another good day (with no end-of-session tilt inducing suckouts) and I know that I'm getting close to 5-10. I'll have the BR for it pretty soon but I'll table select really hard initially, like I did with 2-5. My connection sucks ass down here in Peru so I'll def wait to get back home to move up.

Plz no big downswing kthx
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I've made a bunch of buyins at 2-5 since last posting. From here on in, I'm gonna keep my results private.

I may post some hands soon but for now I'm busy mentoring a friend of mine and playing a shitton of hands. Fwiw I think I'm actually good at the pokerz now, not just at killing bad loose-passive fish ; Alex and Griffey are the only regs on my site who will sit with my me HU.

Peace
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From here on in, I'm gonna keep my results private.


congratulations on this crucial realization

also, happy to hear ur running well for once Wink
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Jack Sawyer wrote:
Genitruc wrote:
From here on in, I'm gonna keep my results private.


congratulations on this crucial realization

also, happy to hear ur running well for once Wink
thx

cue the doomswitch obv
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Haven't posted anything in a while so just committing to posting some hands tomorrow. Have been in a bit of a funk and playing erratically due to some life stuff that has cut into my playing time.

Tomorrow p.m. should be perfect for a 2k hand grind so I'll try and make an in-depth post about the momentum of the session, the results and the most interesting spots.
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Played 2.5k hands but unfortunately didn't hit all that many interesting spots.

I abused a lagg a little bit, check-raising ai on the turn a bunch and pretty much always getting him to fold.

Here's the one hand I wanna discuss :

Playing a bunch of tables I’ve kind of switched to a 4-bet or fold style preflop, both in and out of position (although close to 100% OOP).

When I DO call, here’s a pretty basic thing that I do quite a bit vs thinking opponents :

Game #7791518624: Hold'em NL ($2/$5) - 2008/09/19 - 21:51:40 (UK)
Table "Parksville" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: Grasso2 ($186 in chips)
Seat 2: cleanuout ($150.08 in chips)
Seat 3: Jonahmog ($1312.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Esox01 ($500 in chips)
Seat 5: Ravageur ($1152.55 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO ($500 in chips)
Jonahmog: posts small blind $2
Esox01: posts big blind $5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Ace of Spades Queen of Diamonds
Ravageur: folds
HERO: raises to $17
Grasso2: folds
cleanuout: folds
Jonahmog: folds
Esox01: raises to $55
HERO: calls $38
----- FLOP ----- Nine of Diamonds King of Clubs Six of Spades
Esox01: bets $77
HERO: calls $77
----- TURN ----- Nine of Diamonds King of Clubs Six of Spades Three of Clubs
Esox01: checks
HERO: checks
----- RIVER ----- Nine of Diamonds King of Clubs Six of Spades Three of Clubs Seven of Clubs
Esox01: checks
HERO: bets $135
Esox01: folds
Returned uncalled bets $135 to HERO
HERO: doesn't show hand
HERO collected $263 from Main pot

His flop betting range is likely AK+ since he was running about 20/12 and unlikely to be 3-betting hands like KQ and KJ. Also, his flop c-bet was insta (i.e. ooh I have the nuts I bet or “ooh K hi flop I win most of the time, I bet!”).

I see lots of ppl who call in position in 3-bet pots just shove over c-bets. This looks a little too polarized in my mind so I prefer to call the flop repping TTish hands or exactly KQ/KJ.

After he checks the turn, I go for an extra – and possibly unnecessary – level of complexity : since some ppl love to checkraise ai on the turn to get more money from floats, I check behind planning on making a fake value-bet on the river to fold out mid PP’s (what hand am I calling the flop with – besides a total float – that something like 88 or TT beats when I bet the riv?). I feel like this is a lot more credible to most regs than float flop – steal turn.


As for the results, I busted KK into AA deep in a tourney and was pretty much breakeven for the session. I felt like I got closer to my A-game as the session progressed and there are a couple semi-interesting hands I might post later tonight if I'm high and bored enough.
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Post Posted: Sat, 20 Sep 2008, 12:47am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I do this line that you showed above sometimes in position, but the plan goes to hell when they lead the river again.

The problem with this line, and something I've been doing OOP is the bet/check/bet bluff line can also work. When you 3-bet OOP you lead on a A/K/Q high flop, you check the turn and if it checks through (you know they are weak for the most part) and you lead the river again. Villain isn't sure how strong you are, since you could have just missed your c/r on the turn.
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agreed that oop it's not bad either... but vs good players I prefer to just 4-bet or fold pre

Gah not sure how it happened but I somehow managed to just donk away 2k in the super juicy late-night games.

fuck me, I've now dropped about 8k in the past 5 days, playing what feels like at least my B+ game

Tomorrow will be different I hope.
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Felt like I played close to my A game all day and dropped another 3.5k

Fuck me

Funny though, I'm not even worried or tilted about it. Things will turn around soon enough I hope. The graph for September is a gigantic upside down V. Hopefully there'll be an upswing coming in the future. Lately every time I call without the nuts, they have the nuts. When I have the 2nd nuts and do things like CR the river i get snapped off by the nuts, etc. Not even interesting really. Here's a fun hand to give an example.

Villain is running 22/8/0.4 and riv was an insta-shove. Fun

Table "Paphon" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 2: thanksG (£100 in chips)
Seat 3: Niloz2 (£203.36 in chips)
Seat 4: And190678 (£46.51 in chips)
Seat 5: treasure (£94.50 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO (£242.33 in chips)
And190678: posts small blind £0.50
treasure: posts big blind £1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Ten of Hearts Jack of Diamonds
HERO: raises to £3
thanksG: calls £3
Niloz2: calls £3
And190678: folds
treasure: folds
----- FLOP ----- Queen of Spades Nine of Diamonds Eight of Hearts
HERO: bets £7
thanksG: folds
Niloz2: calls £7
----- TURN ----- Queen of Spades Nine of Diamonds Eight of Hearts Ace of Clubs
HERO: bets £22
Niloz2: calls £22
----- RIVER ----- Queen of Spades Nine of Diamonds Eight of Hearts Ace of Clubs Eight of Diamonds
HERO: bets £65
Niloz2: raises to £171.36 and is all-in
HERO: folds
Returned uncalled bets £106.36 to Niloz2
Niloz2: doesn't show hand
Niloz2 collected £195.50 from Main pot

A few hands later I decided to « make a stand » and call him when he shoved on the river again… GG :

Game #7834060404: Hold'em NL (£0.50/£1) - 2008/09/24 - 10:55:06 (UK)
Table "Paphon" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: irwin9 (£40.19 in chips)
Seat 2: thanksG (£251.48 in chips)
Seat 3: Niloz2 (£239.74 in chips)
Seat 4: mrpink (£100 in chips)
Seat 5: treasure (£91.96 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO (£127.99 in chips)
thanksG: posts small blind £0.50
Niloz2: posts big blind £1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO Seven of Diamonds Seven of Hearts
mrpink: raises to £4
treasure: folds
HERO: calls £4
irwin9: folds
thanksG: folds
Niloz2: calls £3
----- FLOP ----- Queen of Hearts King of Spades Six of Hearts
Niloz2: checks
mrpink: checks
HERO: checks
----- TURN ----- Queen of Hearts King of Spades Six of Hearts Seven of Spades
Niloz2: checks
mrpink: checks
HERO: bets £12
Niloz2: calls £12
mrpink: folds
mrpink sits out
----- RIVER ----- Queen of Hearts King of Spades Six of Hearts Seven of Spades Five of Clubs
Niloz2: checks
HERO: bets £24
Niloz2: raises to £223.74 and is all-in
HERO: is all-in £87.99
Returned uncalled bets £111.75 to Niloz2
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Niloz2: shows Eight of Diamonds Nine of Hearts (A Straight, Nine high)
HERO: shows Seven of Diamonds Seven of Hearts (Three of a kind, Sevens, King high)
Niloz2 collected £257.48 from Main pot

Maybe from a meta-game perspective it would’ve been better to call the 1st time and fold the 2nd one… Who knows. The fker was good at coolering me imo.

Also made a kind of spewy shove with AQo in a blind war and then a pretty thin call vs Alexos today and got owned both times, then decided to fold 2nd set vs Alex when the riv brought a 4-straight. Every time I don’t raise for value with a monster on the flop the turn and river come FUCK and then ME.

Whatever, standard boring running bad shit. Like I said before, still think I’m playing really well overall.
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Keep up the good play dude, things will turn.

how did the 2/5 pounds go?

I'm super tempted to call that first hand. Even someone so passive would raise like two pair or set earlier right?? hmmm maybe 89 makes sense here or like A8 I guess...

Second hand is meh.. cooler central. I probably actually bet the flop a fair amount once the PFR checks around.
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