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flopping 2 pair early in a SnG

  
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mcpeepants
Post Posted: Mon, 28 Mar 2005, 12:19am    Post subject: flopping 2 pair early in a SnG Reply with quote
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This was about the 40th hand of the tournament. Up to this point I had played 2 hands, not including BB. I had been watching everybody very closely and tallying how many hands they'd played. The player I was up against was extremely loose and stupidly aggressive. What do you think about this push?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

Hero (t1155)
UTG (t3745)
MP (t1285)
CO (t2150)
Button (t2050)
SB (t3115)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8Spade, 6Heart.
UTG calls t50, 1 fold, CO calls t50, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t175) 6Club, 7Heart, 8Club (3 players)
Hero bets t150, UTG raises to t300, CO folds, Hero raises to t1105, UTG calls t805.

Turn: (t2385) 4Heart (2 players)

River: (t2385) THeart (2 players)

Final Pot: t2385
Main Pot: t2385 (t2385), between Hero and UTG.
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teddosan
Post Posted: Mon, 28 Mar 2005, 3:38pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Even against a stupidly aggressive player, this is a scary flop for two pair to get raised. It's all about your read on this guy. If his MO is getting super-aggressive when there's a scary flop all the time trying to represent sweet hands, then maybe now's your chance to bust him. If he usually gets super-aggressive when there's a rag flop because he just thinks he can steal it, then now he may really have something.
Personally, I would probably just call his re-raise and see what happens on the turn.
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mcpeepants
Post Posted: Mon, 28 Mar 2005, 3:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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He is most certainly super aggressive when he catches ANYTHING or has a draw.
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DeanCarl
Post Posted: Mon, 28 Mar 2005, 4:14pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm not real fond of two small pairs in ANY hand to begin with and especially not early in a SNG. With a long way to go in this tourney and that flop I'd probably save my chips for a better chance of using this guy's aggression against him and fold to his raise. At the very most I'd just call and look for help on the turn.

Just my thoughts.

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Post Posted: Mon, 28 Mar 2005, 4:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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With that flop, I would certainly think that my two pair were good. If he were as agressive as you say, then I would tend to think that he's just trying to steal at what appears to be a rag flop.

Even so, with that draw out there I would probably just call here. If the turn isn't a card that helps his straight, then I'm very confident that 2 pair takes it and put him to a decision after he tries to take the pot again (which he almost certainly will). If it's a card that helps a possible straight draw, then I'd take a turn raise by him much more seriously and have to rely on my read of him.

i'd probably fold this to a turn raise by a conservative player. If this guy's as agressive as you say, it would come down to pot odds. If he makes it cheap enough maybe you see the river, if he goes all in i'd seriously think about letting it go and waiting for a better spot to smack him down.

I don't see anything wrong with your play either, just that board is a little scary for an AI with two pair. Lots of straight possibilities out there.
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mcpeepants
Post Posted: Mon, 28 Mar 2005, 11:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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He flipped over 7T after we went all in and I rejoiced. And thennn when the T came out I cussed. Hurray for poker!
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Do you play on Paradise mate?
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Post Posted: Thu, 31 Mar 2005, 3:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Nay, PokerStars.
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