flopped straightflush draw in the sb. what to do?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($1.95)
CO ($2.28)
Button ($5.36)
Hero ($2.24)
BB ($2.90)
UTG ($1.94)
UTG+1 ($4.21)
MP1 ($2.91)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, 3

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.14) T

, 4

, 2

(7 players)
Hero ??

Obviously a great flop but how should I play it being first to act: bet/raise, check/raise? Should I be happy to put it all on the flop?

I bet $0.12 here and three-bet any re-raise. You probably have 12 clean outs (depends if anyone has a set, nobody has 36) so I'd be prepared to get it all-in on the flop, but would prefer not to.

You're prolly better than 1.9:1 to hit either your flush or straight by the river. So every $ you can get called by at least one other player on is + for you. I agree w/ Daven... PSB out (may take it down right there), and if not you're still good up to AI if you have to before the Turn hits.

start building a pot. nut flush, an overcard, a str8 draw, and the str8flush possibility. what are you waiting for?

thats like 15 outs. in a limped pot, your A is prolly clean. play it hard on the flop...you have a large edge in equity here. if he raises you, i'd strongly consider shoving .

lead out .12, and 3 bet anything, fold to a monster raise though.

I would check it, you have draws to strong hands but nothing right now, you want a multiway pot, someone will probably bet it and you should call or raise, depending on the action

I agree with the people saying bet out, two reasons A) you may (highly unlikely at that level) take the pot down betting .10. B)you want to build big pots with big hands.
The other side of the coin though, you want to keep the pot small with drawing hands and build it with made hands. Hmmm perhaps a good idea to check raise someone here, as if the third club comes it should kill your action.
I guess I probably shouldn't have commented sorry!

you want to build a pot, but don't get all-in plz. you are usually behind to the type of hand that wants to get all-in against you here. the only way you should push here is if you believe you have a lot of fold equity. you should probably only treat this as a 12-outter.

Thanks all for the great input.

don't raise and try to get it all-in. you are an underdog to the types of hands that would normally want to get all-in with you. this is not some huge 15-outter. your hand is uglier than it appears.

You definately don't want to be getting it allin on the flop here (and especially not if the turn blanks). You arent open ended and your equity sucks against a set and isnt that good against 2 pair. People arent going to be 4/5 bet shoving a single pair here after limping preflop all that often.

b/3b is usually fun with a big combo draw like this because the pot is usually raised and the 3bet can be a push. In a limped pot here bet / 3bet allin is a mistake since you arent winning enough when they fold to make up for the times they call with a set/ 2pair. Bet / 3bet that isnt a shove isnt an amazing move because it builds a big pot out of position where you dont really know what to do on the turn when you miss (plus if they 4bet allin you probably have to call and be slightly behind).

Since there isn't alot in the pot already, and since alot of players at these stakes call WAY too much, meaning your fold equity is lower and your implied odds are higher, I prefer to just check/call and keep it multiway. If the pot were bigger or our stack was shorter so we could b/3b allin or close to allin then Id rather go that way.

Not sure if this is correct, or a bad habit I picked up somewhere, but I usually lead out for half the pot, the logic being that you can keep it multi-way since at this level people will generally call with any piece of the flop, and you are unlikely to raised. Often even if the turn blanks you can pick up a cheap or free card on the turn. Best of all is when someone is chasing a lower flush.

check/ call

bet/push

my bad. what i meant to emphasize was....

keep it the same as your other leads, whatever they usually are.

i just want to point out that if it was an OESF you are safe to get AI on the flop, and you actually want to.

I'm in agreement with betting just not b/3b AI in a limped pot against passive players over 100bb deep.

Yea I think betting out is ok. I actually think its pretty close between bet/call and check/call but I prefer c/c. I just really hate bet/massive overbet shove here when we are going to be so far behind and with very little fold equity (in terms of chips compared to how much is behind) so often.

[quote="PelionBecause we only have 33% equity against a set (pretty much the only hand that calls a b/3b massive overbet allin after limping preflop on a T high very seperated board)?
[/quote]
I doubt this is true in microlimits, you get all sort of calls with hands like A5, T8 etc...

However I still think check/callign or check/raising, depending on the action behind is the correct move

I would lead small, like 1/2pot or less, let's build a pot at least with all our equity and we probably could "buy" our Ace outs as well.

Also, betting small manipulates opponents raise size which is nice because we'd rather put as little money in when behind.

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