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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:23pm Post subject: flop play?
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One Pair
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
Posts: 17
WPP: 80
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1st hand of tourny so no reads
except its 5 way to the flop
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 2.2 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (MP2) (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Hero's M: 50.00
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , Q
2 folds, MP1 calls t20, Hero bets t100, 1 fold, CO calls t100, 1 fold, SB calls t90, BB calls t80, MP1 calls t80
Flop: (t500) Q , J , A (5 players)
SB bets t220, 1 fold, MP1 calls t220, ??? |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:59pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2096
WPP: 101
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| I'd just shove because any reasonable raise is pot committing anyway. IMO the only debate about this hand should be between raising to ~700 and shoving |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 4:46pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 7972
WPP: 67
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| yeah just get it in, a lot of cards can come that will kill action from Ax or two pair and I doubt someone will call 600-800 that would fold to a shove. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 9:20pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1828
WPP: 67
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| standard shove, no one is folding Ax or flush draw on the flop. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 10:28pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
Posts: 17
WPP: 80
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being 5 way can KT ever be enough of a concearn to make this a fold?
1st hand of tourny with only $100 invested
i almost timed out, feeling the KT was out there
but i couldnt make a hero fold
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 2.2 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (MP2) (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Hero's M: 50.00
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
2 folds, MP1 calls t20, Hero bets t100, 1 fold, CO calls t100, 1 fold, SB calls t90, BB calls t80, MP1 calls t80
Flop: (t500) Q, J, A (5 players)
SB bets t220, 1 fold, MP1 calls t220, Hero raises to t1400 (All-In), 1 fold, SB calls t1180 (All-In), MP1 calls t1180 (All-In)
Turn: (t4700) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)
River: (t4700) 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)
Total pot: t4700
Results:
SB had Q, J (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
MP1 had K, 10 (straight, Ace high).
Hero had Q, Q (full house, Queens over threes).
Outcome: Hero won t4700
maybe just being results driven (he had KT)
but felt i would be losing alot of value from my big hands if i folded to excalty KT... |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 10:36pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1828
WPP: 67
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no
put villains on a range of hands that could bet or call a big bet on this flop. QQ crushes that range. where exactly do you think you can fold? |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 10:59pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2096
WPP: 101
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| Its not like your drawing dead vs KT, your 36% |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 11:18pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
Posts: 17
WPP: 80
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thanks for the replies guys,
was thinking i played it right ,but being 5 way wasnt sure |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 11:24pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
Posts: 17
WPP: 80
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| baudib wrote: | no
put villains on a range of hands that could bet or call a big bet on this flop. QQ crushes that range. where exactly do you think you can fold? |
fold to flop bet by sb,
HU or 2 callers this is a snap shove |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 11:44pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1828
WPP: 67
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| folding 3rd nuts to a flop bet is bad. |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 3:44am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Posts: 367
WPP: 214
Location: Stackton
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| Do you have pokerstove installed in your computer? If not, you should get it asap. It is free. |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 5:58am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1828
WPP: 67
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Board: As Js Qd
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.677% 68.04% 00.64% 42437 397.00 { QcQh }
Hand 1: 31.323% 30.69% 00.64% 19139 397.00 { AA, JJ, ATs+, KsQs, KTs, QJs, QsTs, ATo+, KTo, QJo } |
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