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vaks
Post Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2008, 4:32am    Post subject: extracting value with TOP two Reply with quote
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villian is unknown... I just sat at table
but I feel like im already commited in this pot... and if hes chasing the flush oh well.. but in same manner I think if he was chasing the flush then shoving the river is bad?
so do we c/c the river or c/push the river? or do we just shove?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($25)
UTG ($31.75)
UTG+1 ($24.90)
MP1 ($25.65)
MP2 ($20.40)
MP3 ($12.80)
CO ($8.80)
Button ($78.65)
SB ($4.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J.
4 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.5, MP3 calls $1.25, Button calls $1.25, SB folds.

Flop: ($4.75) A, 6, J (3 players)
Hero bets $3, MP3 folds, Button calls $3.

Turn: ($10.75) T (2 players)
Hero bets $7, Button calls $7.

River: ($24.75) 5 (2 players)
Hero???
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wufwugy
Post Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2008, 5:40am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i push with AQ
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vaks
Post Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2008, 5:52am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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so basically keep the aggression up?
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BankItDrew
Post Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2008, 6:03am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The pot is like $25 and you have $13 back. might as well value bet and call any shove.
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wufwugy
Post Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2008, 6:06am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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broaden your horizens of thought.

if he's the type to chase a flush here then he's also the type to call down with worse pairs. if he's the type to do that then he's the type whom you get most value out of by betting.

also consider your other options. c/f and c/c are worse, so betting is best
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ATOTHEC101
Post Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2008, 7:39am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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agree, shove it in, and in relation to your bet sizing i feel 4 would of been better on the flop but more importantly you have to bet more on the turn with so many draws on the board, closer to 10 in my opinion.
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Deanglow
Post Posted: Sun, 01 Jun 2008, 11:37am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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You can't do anything but shove. His range is still made up of a lot of aces. Bet more on the flop and turn.
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