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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 4:58am Post subject: Doyle Brunson NLH Theory |
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Two Pair
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 31
WPP: 92
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Doyle Brunson said in his book. " a tight image and tight play equals poor play" Anyone have any views on that? |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 6:12am Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 203
WPP: 93
Location: bronx new york
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To an extent hes right. A tight passive player isnt making any money because hes never getting paid off. When i get check minraised by a player whos 11/0 im folding any pair. A tight player isnt losing much money, but he isnt making any either.
A TAG player is different, and I dont think that doyle is talking about this type of player when he makes that statement. A TAG player who is raising whenever he enters the pot doesnt have the best image even tho his preflop play is tight. A good tag can have a poor image while seeing few hands |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 6:27am Post subject: |
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Season I
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Posts: 2350
WPP: 74
Location: Dallas, TX
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| DB is *almost *always talking about strategy at games most of us are never going to play. $10,000 buyins and up. He is able to set the entire tone of the game with his play. Constantly pushing everyone off of pots is very effective at certain tables, but does not fly at smaller stakes, or online. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 10:11am Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 208
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Location: Miami
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| LeFou wrote: | | DB is *almost *always talking about strategy at games most of us are never going to play. $10,000 buyins and up. He is able to set the entire tone of the game with his play. Constantly pushing everyone off of pots is very effective at certain tables, but does not fly at smaller stakes, or online. |
i read DB original SS , and he doesnt go to far off from LAG/TAG play ,he said when he bluffs he usually does it on the flop to pound the tight passive players , and this is what most TAG players do when they play , and this works all the way down to NL10 .... |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 10:36am Post subject: |
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Season I
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Posts: 2350
WPP: 74
Location: Dallas, TX
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He also says he has long runs where he just hammers away and opps are so weak they go "Take it, Doyle" over and over again. I don't see a lot of that at 10NL.
If you raise twice in a row at 10NL, you've got crosshairs on. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 4:59pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 450
WPP: 135
Location: Moscow, Idaho
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I think what he meant by the part where they are saying "take it Doyle" and their cards are hitting the muck is that if he's in the hand, he's defending the hand. Which is much different than any two cards over and over and over.
Sometimes it's hard to bet at a pot for him. But the image he wants everyone at the table to know, is that people either call them, or fold. Because if they play back at Doyle, he's going to shove all in, and let the cards fall as they may. That's why he takes down so many little pots, because people realize they need very strong hands in order to confront with Doyle.
Moreover. He doesn't care about any of the money he makes off of his original stake. Remember if he buys in for 100, and picks up 50 by being aggressive, he's willing to risk all 50 of that on a drawbecause he considers it a "free roll". Ie, use the money you build up by picking up pots to gamble with. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 7:26pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 13 Oct 2005
Posts: 1383
WPP: 67
Location: ontario
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| it all depends on who you are playing against. some players don't notice, while others will wtfpwn you. |
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