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Posted: Thu, 27 Apr 2006, 4:52pm Post subject:
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High Card
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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WPP: 94
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Are there anymore Casino's that offer a 100% matching (not sticky)Bonus that still let you play BJ to clear it?? I've cleared the bonuses at Starluck and PlanetLuck and I'm ready to move on to the next Bonus but every Casino that I look at either dosen't allow BJ or the wager requirements are crazy!! Some I've seen are deposit+bonusX200!!!!!
I don't feel like my bankroll is at a place where I can start in on the sticky bonuses yet. Any ideas you experienced Bonus whores would be greatly appreciated!!!! |
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Posted: Thu, 27 Apr 2006, 7:15pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
Posts: 2425
WPP: 138
Location: My ice is polarized
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| goldenpalace.com $100 300% ($400) must wager 8k. |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Apr 2006, 5:40am Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 21
WPP: 185
Location: WBL
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| ^^^also Online casino.com has the same offer, and Grand Online casino has a deposit 100$ get 200$ in Bonus, wager for this is 6k I believe. Also if you are going to do these 2 sites and its sister Golden Palace. You should sign up for them all the same day, infact I recommend that you sign up for them and deposit, and get the Bonus for them, all within like 20 minutes of each other. They are really catching on to whores now. If they see that you worked 1 of there sites over they wont allow you to do the other sites anymore. That is why you should sign up for them all within a very short period of time from one another. Then clear them on a later time or date. If you wanna know more sites just ask. |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Apr 2006, 7:13am Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
Posts: 2425
WPP: 138
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Dear Customer,
After an investigation into your account activity, we have determined that you have violated our website Term & Conditions on one or more of your play accounts.
Although we have closed your account(s) and voided your winnings according to our Terms & Conditions, we have refunded your initial deposit to the credit card or online wallet used to make the purchase.
We consider this matter at a close.
- Security Department |
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Posted: Sat, 29 Apr 2006, 12:44pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 21
WPP: 185
Location: WBL
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Posted: Sat, 29 Apr 2006, 2:46pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
Posts: 2425
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| OnlineCasino i did gp like a week and a half ago then went online casino and got pwned. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Apr 2006, 5:06pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 09 Apr 2006
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WPP: 185
Location: WBL
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| yea, like i said, you hav to sign up for them all at once, get them before they know what hit them. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Apr 2006, 6:36pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
Posts: 2425
WPP: 138
Location: My ice is polarized
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Yeah I wish they'd send back my original deposit  . |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Apr 2006, 9:11pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 21
WPP: 185
Location: WBL
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| they said they will send it, so they will, casino take forever to pay some of them |
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Posted: Fri, 02 Jun 2006, 3:55pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 493
WPP: 65
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Will be doing this very soon, probably tonight  |
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Posted: Sun, 23 Jul 2006, 12:13am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 89
WPP: 88
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Just did Starluck, + $129
This is a great guide by ttanaka, but I am a finance major, and I think I can suggest some improvements:
1) For non-sticky bonuses, just keep playing until you reach the betting requirement, then cashout. It does not really matter how much your play each hand as long as you bet less than 10% (I bet 5%) of your BR in it (your EV does not change) but if you bet a very larget amount then you risk being washed out too easily by a bad run.
2) For stick bonuses, you should follow this strategy roughly: (Pls see the next post for a distinction between types of sticky bonuses)
A) First, play until you finished the wagering requirement, and then cash out all your non-stick bonuses. Because playing in a casino is -EV activity, it must be right to withdraw your money if possible. So the strategy ttanaka used it quite obviously incorrect (and is the main reason I'm posting here, hoping to make improvements to the guide).
B) After your first withdrawal (you would typically withdrawn some of your initial investment), what do you do?
I) Maximize EV - the more your play, the more you lose, so bet all. BUT THIS IS NOT A GOOD STRATEGY. Why? A simple example is this: If there is a lottery where that costs your $1k to invest in, and it pays you $100billion if you win, but there is only a 1/10billion chance you will win. Obviously the EV is huge, but if you buy in this lottery you will too often be left with nothing, especially if none of us is rich enough enter this lottery for many times. The lesson is that you want something that does not maximize your EV, but leave you with a decent payoff most of the time.
II) Recommended strategy: Wager 5-10% of your stick bonuses at a time, and as soon as you hit a profit that allow you to withdraw, do it immediately. So let's assume I have a $300 sticky account at Golden Palace, and assume that there is a $50 min withdrawal requirement, I will probably wager $25 each time, hoping to go to $350 and then make a withdrawal, and then repeat the process. If you are patient, you may want to invest with even smaller stakes (say $10 or $15) and you will have a good chance to make a few withdrawals. This way, you sacrifice a small EV in order to increase your chance of making a decent profit.
One more point: If you hit a bad run and you lose a lot of your sticky Bonus (say you need to be above $300 to withdraw and you are down to your last 100/50), then it may make sense to become more aggressive.
The reason is that if you bet small, it'll take forever to get your account backup, so if you need to bet big, you may as well bet all of it.
C) There is not too much value in BJ card counting, because the main point for our strategy is to take advantage of all the bonuses out here, not to make honest money our of the casinos. If you play $1600, and you get $100 bonuses, why bother to take the .5% edge = $8 by counting card vigorosly? And that's not to mention that us BJ beginners will often make mistakes beacuse we all rely on simple strategies that we are unfamiliar, and also when the source of information is not perfectly realiable. It is much better to use the perfect basic strategy, and for this I reccommend "Blackjack Strategy - Tips and techniques for beating the odds" by Michael Benson. They have complete charts on all situations (1/2/4/6/8 decks, dealer hits on soft 17 or not, split allowed or not, dbl down situations), and I strongly suspect that it is more important to adjust to the different conditions of all tables. I do not claim to have proof that their strategy is correct (and some of them is not very intuitive) so feel free to use another chart if you think it is more reliable.
So the above are my 2cents*3
These statements are not proved vigorosly, but I am pretty sure of the realiability of my advice. I will continue to try to take these bonuses and keep all of you up to date.
Sorry for the long post, I am not a good writer. If anything is unclear, please let me know, and if you can condense this into a shorter post, that will be great as well.
Good luck making $$$$$!!!!! |
Last edited by kyc12 on Sun, 23 Jul 2006, 12:30pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Sun, 23 Jul 2006, 12:02pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 28 Jul 2005
Posts: 574
WPP: 127
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2) For stick bonuses, you should follow this strategy roughly:
A) First, play until you finished the wagering requirement, and then cash out all your non-stick bonuses. Because playing in a casino is -EV activity, it must be right to withdraw your money if possible. So the strategy ttanaka used it quite obviously incorrect (and is the main reason I'm posting here, hoping to make improvements to the guide).
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Actually there are two seperate types of sticky bonuses. A sticky 1 and a sticky 2. What you state here is wrong for a sticky 1. Once you cash out of a sticky 1 you are done with it. You can't go back and keep playing it. This is the type sticky ttanaka played (sticky 1)
Now what you mentioned here is correct though for a sticky 2 Bonus. Also what you mention below is pretty much good for a sticky 2.
eeeee has a good explanation of Sticky 1 and Sticky 2 type bonuses and how to play them. It's probably on here somewhere in the House of Cards. |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Aug 2006, 11:59am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 3545
WPP: 106
Location: Collecting $eV
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I just registered with Grand Casino:
I did not get a $75 neteller Bonus, and the requirement is now 20x, not 4x.
I lost on the first hand so it didn't really affect me. |
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