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Posted: Tue, 21 Mar 2006, 4:38pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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I voted patience/resilience because the topic is plural.
One tourney, it's Inflection Play. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Mar 2006, 5:36pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Tue, 21 Mar 2006, 5:40pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: NZ
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| I voted patience, but I want to learn how to extract chips the most |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Mar 2006, 5:50pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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Location: Carey, Ohio
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| I said there is no clear-cut 'best' skill.. you need a combination of all of them to make it deep. You can extract all you want, but without being able to abuse short stacks, you're still going nowhere. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Mar 2006, 5:51pm Post subject:
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i rarely, if ever, get pms
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| THaC wrote: | | I said there is no clear-cut 'best' skill.. you need a combination of all of them to make it deep. |
I concur |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Mar 2006, 6:16pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| I was going to say "ability to make a decision and stick with it"... but I couldn't decide. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Mar 2006, 1:50pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 22 Jun 2005
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Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
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I voted patience, but I want to learn how to extract chips the most
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Still a <>< old bud? 
This is easy. Chip extraction. |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Mar 2006, 10:45pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 12 Dec 2004
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| patience is easy, but chip extraction is what seperates the men from the boys |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Mar 2006, 12:14am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Yeah, most of the time I'm playing 4 tables of LHE with a mtt on the side, so I don't really have the reads early on (when 'it doesn't matter') to find the fish and get their chips before others do. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Mar 2006, 3:20am Post subject:
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Flush
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| Quote: | | Some say the key to winning an MTT is to pick up a lot of monsters at the right time; I say it's more important (at least long-term) to get the most value possible out of said monsters. |
I feel the need to point something out. Take for example, take Gabe; he accumulates stacks by winning lots of little pots because he knows people are afraid to throw their whole stack down without a big hand especially late... "Chip extraction" should cover more than getting more value out of your monsters. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Mar 2006, 4:25am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
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| chardrian wrote: | | THaC wrote: | | I said there is no clear-cut 'best' skill.. you need a combination of all of them to make it deep. |
I concur |
Ditto.
I dont think you can be a solid MTT player without many (all?) of thoes skill.... No one is so powerful that it will make up for the others... |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Mar 2006, 1:59pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
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Location: The Internetz
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I'd have to say adaptation and execution.
If you are able to adapt to all situations at the table and execute accordingly you own period |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Mar 2006, 2:07pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
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booo. I was all excited X man was going to start posting in MTT forum!
Let's can the 'you need all these' posts. We know you need all of them. That's not why he posted. |
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Posted: Thu, 23 Mar 2006, 4:39pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| drmcboy wrote: | booo. I was all excited X man was going to start posting in MTT forum!
Let's can the 'you need all these' posts. We know you need all of them. That's not why he posted. |
It's not simply that you need all of them, it's that none of them stand out as that much more important...
If you dont have "Patience and resilience", "selective aggression" is not going to save you. If you dont understand "inflection point play" then you will not be able to "extract value" properly from your hands.
This is really about 4 skills.
1) Inflection point play.
2) Extracting Value
3) Selective Aggression.
4) patience and Resilience.
None are so much better than the others that it's a "most important skill". I've never had a problem with number 4, but when I started I didnt understand 1-3. As I've improved as a player, I learned and improved in each area... But until I was able to use all of them I wasnt able to profit in SnG's/MTT's long term...
Now if the question was "What do most people need to work on the most" or "Which skill would you prefer the other players at the table lack" then things would be diffrent... |
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