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Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 1:43am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Posts: 1446 WPP: 63
Location: NS, Canada
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| courtiebee wrote: | T3, nice!
how many tables does your room have? From your posts, I've gathered that the games aren't that great there. |
probably 8 tables. loose and crazy sometimes. Some ppl from PEI are real gamblers. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Aug 2009, 3:57pm Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 2637 WPP: 101
Location: google image happy flower
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Went to River Rock and played so badly last night. Working early during the week has been pretty bad for recreational live poker because I start getting really sleepy when the games start getting good. I figure I played 2 hours longer than I should have last night, and I'm pretty sure I spewed away ~$200 because of it.
There's a regular at River Rock who plays 1/2 NL and is a huge whale with a bad temper. He seems to have unlimited rebuy money and he's willing to change tables if people start berating him. Anyway, in my sleepy state I just couldn't figure out how to play with him at the table last night. It wasn't that I couldn't play against him, it was that I didn't know what to do about everyone else who was trying to get in pots with him too.
The whale's VPIP was 100% (he calls raises with 72o) and his PFR must've been 75%. I've played only a limited # of pots with him in the past but I know that he likes to bluff and win pots with aggression. He will frequently show bluffs and he will call bets with almost any pair. He will also bet the same way when he has the nuts.
Should I be waiting for excellent hands and then isolate him PF, or should I be trying to play as many pots with him as possible?
My problem with trying to play pots with him was obviously everyone else was doing the same. So he'd raise to $25 and he'd get 5 calls. Playing this way, I guess I just have to hit huge?
I made the mistake of trying to get in pots with him and going all the way with top pair. TP is the nuts when you're HU vs him but with 4 people in the pot not so much. I called his raise to $25 PF with JTo in the CO and there were 4 of us to the flop. The whale bet $60 on a T7x flop with two hearts and got 1 fold, and then it was me to act with someone behind me on the button. I pushed (I had $175 behind) which I feel was the correct play given that I was in the hand, but should I have been in the hand in the first place?
Since I last posted, I've only gone to play poker 5 times. I'm -$436 over ~13 hours playing 1/2 and +$334 in donkaments since then.
Totals: +$193 cash, -$251 donkaments. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Aug 2009, 11:09pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Posts: 1446 WPP: 63
Location: NS, Canada
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| I call with KQ and KJ vs this whale and insta muck JTo in this hand.You should isolate and play more HU hands with him in position.Otherwise, I'd still refuse to loosen up and wait for quality hands.Wow,There must be some sick poker action in vancouer.Maybe I should move there next year?? |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Aug 2009, 11:16pm Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 2637 WPP: 101
Location: google image happy flower
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| The games tightened up a bit for a few months at the start of the year (from what I could see with my limited sample size) but it seems like they're picking up again! Seems like it started getting better after they left the room open for 24 hours again. |
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Posted: Sun, 13 Sep 2009, 10:46pm Post subject:
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High Card

Joined: 04 Feb 2009
Posts: 9 WPP: 88
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| if he gets 5 callers to a 25$ raise, the other people are obviously calling him extremely light. Do most of the players still raise their premiums? if so, you can shove an extremely wide range here. if not, you can still shove an extremely wide range here, just a little bit less wide than in the other scenario |
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Posted: Mon, 14 Sep 2009, 12:59am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 2637 WPP: 101
Location: google image happy flower
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| Thanks for your reply, Woutman984. Welcome to FTR! |
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Posted: Mon, 14 Sep 2009, 1:10am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 2637 WPP: 101
Location: google image happy flower
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BC Poker Championships are coming in November.
Nov 15: $100+$20 $100 re-buys $100 add-on
Nov 16 to Nov 17: $1000+$100 (final table scheduled for 9 pm on Nov 17)
Nov 18: $100+$20 $100 re-buys $100 add-on
Nov 19 to Nov 22: ME, $2500+$200 (final table Nov 22)
Every Sunday they're running $110+$10 satellites to the $1100 event. I've decided to play every Sunday satellite because they're sure to be very soft and great for the BR. Today the tournament got 44 participants and after a couple final table scares, I won a seat. We'll see how many seats I can win at the end of it all (I'll have 9 more chances I think) and then I can decide whether or not I'll actually play the event.
Other than that, I've played 2 hours of cash since I last posted and made a huge $27
Totals: +$220 cash, +$849 donkaments. |
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Posted: Tue, 15 Sep 2009, 7:12pm Post subject: Donks in person just as annoying as the internet
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One Pair

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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I dont like playing in the local poker rooms. Its a donkfest. They start with a modest 50 buyin then rebuys for the 1st hour at 25. A lot of these idiots plop down a couple hundred in an hour. I'll give you an example. I'm sitting on the button with KK. BB 200 SB 100. 9 man table and everybody calls around to me. I raise on the button to 1000. about 1/5 of my stack. I figured I'd chase away the chasers and the fish.....Wrong. The guy to my left in the SB calls. everybody else folds. The flop comes out K68. I check. He bets 200. I figured he hit trip 6's or 8's. I raise to 1200, he calls. J pops on the turn. I bet 2000. He calls. now I'm thinking WTF. river comes 4 clubs. I got him covered so I push all in. He calls. He turns over 57 off suit. STR8...
I asked how do you call a 1000 raise with 5/7 off suit. He said he just likes to play and figured he could rebuy. I was Pissed. It took about an hour and a half to rebuild my stack.
I realized the mentality of the donk room and used it to my advantage. I busted the idiot after they cut off the rebuys. I finished 3rd in the tourney and won 2400. After that everytime I play there I play tight until after the rebuy period. then I clean up. Great place to put cash in your pocket. |
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Posted: Tue, 15 Sep 2009, 8:00pm Post subject: Re: Donks in person just as annoying as the internet
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Flush

Joined: 09 Jul 2005
Posts: 413 WPP: 107
Location: Riding the life heater
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| Celticsman wrote: | I dont like playing in the local poker rooms. Its a donkfest. They start with a modest 50 buyin then rebuys for the 1st hour at 25. A lot of these idiots plop down a couple hundred in an hour. I'll give you an example. I'm sitting on the button with KK. BB 200 SB 100. 9 man table and everybody calls around to me. I raise on the button to 1000. about 1/5 of my stack. I figured I'd chase away the chasers and the fish.....Wrong. The guy to my left in the SB calls. everybody else folds. The flop comes out K68. I check. He bets 200. I figured he hit trip 6's or 8's. I raise to 1200, he calls. J pops on the turn. I bet 2000. He calls. now I'm thinking WTF. river comes 4 clubs. I got him covered so I push all in. He calls. He turns over 57 off suit. STR8...
I asked how do you call a 1000 raise with 5/7 off suit. He said he just likes to play and figured he could rebuy. I was Pissed. It took about an hour and a half to rebuild my stack.
I realized the mentality of the donk room and used it to my advantage. I busted the idiot after they cut off the rebuys. I finished 3rd in the tourney and won 2400. After that everytime I play there I play tight until after the rebuy period. then I clean up. Great place to put cash in your pocket. |
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Posted: Wed, 16 Sep 2009, 4:30am Post subject: Re: Donks in person just as annoying as the internet
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Full House

Joined: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 955 WPP: 47
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| Celticsman wrote: | I dont like playing in the local poker rooms. Its a donkfest. They start with a modest 50 buyin then rebuys for the 1st hour at 25. A lot of these idiots plop down a couple hundred in an hour. I'll give you an example. I'm sitting on the button with KK. BB 200 SB 100. 9 man table and everybody calls around to me. I raise on the button to 1000. about 1/5 of my stack. I figured I'd chase away the chasers and the fish.....Wrong. The guy to my left in the SB calls. everybody else folds. The flop comes out K68. I check. He bets 200. I figured he hit trip 6's or 8's. I raise to 1200, he calls. J pops on the turn. I bet 2000. He calls. now I'm thinking WTF. river comes 4 clubs. I got him covered so I push all in. He calls. He turns over 57 off suit. STR8...
I asked how do you call a 1000 raise with 5/7 off suit. He said he just likes to play and figured he could rebuy. I was Pissed. It took about an hour and a half to rebuild my stack.
I realized the mentality of the donk room and used it to my advantage. I busted the idiot after they cut off the rebuys. I finished 3rd in the tourney and won 2400. After that everytime I play there I play tight until after the rebuy period. then I clean up. Great place to put cash in your pocket. |
cool story bro |
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Posted: Wed, 16 Sep 2009, 12:00pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 18 Aug 2004
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| Quote: | I dont like playing in the local poker rooms.
Great place to put cash in your pocket. |
GO CELTICS |
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Posted: Sun, 20 Sep 2009, 11:58pm Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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Went to River Rock, busted the satellite, went home. I'm 1 for 2 now.
Totals: +$220 cash, +$729 donkaments. |
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Posted: Mon, 28 Sep 2009, 12:21am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

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Busted another satellite today, this time in the first half hour I called two pushes with 20bb with AK and couldn't suck out vs QQ. At first I wasn't sure if I should call after they shoved. The first guy had 15bbs and I put him on a fairly wide range, but the second guy who shoved had over 30bbs and I had to think before calling him. I've been playing with ranges on pokerstove, though, and the call seems fine.
Played 1/2 for 4.5 hours and profited $703. I hit some nice hands today and got paid off nicely.
Totals: +$923 cash, +$609 donkaments. |
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Posted: Mon, 28 Sep 2009, 1:08am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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I just realized I made this thread 1 year ago. I've played only 75-80 hours of 1/2 cash over the last year, which is around 2000 hands. That's a pretty lol small sample size. This past year was definitely fail when it came to playing a lot of live cash
It's so crazy how few hands you'll play live when compared with online poker. How long would it take someone to play 2000 hands playing online? A few hours while multitabling?
I like live poker about a million times better than online. I really like the chips, the people, the reads, the tells, the dealers, the lack of multitabling, the lack of programs, the lack of software. I love that I can sit there and be a female and automatically have this ridiculously super tight image for no reason. I love that people freak out when you raise in LP and threaten to push the "next time" but then never do.
I'm going to quit my job in January because I've saved money for long enough and I want to go somewhere to do something cool. I'm thinking about driving cross country and moving out east because I've never been there before and it seems like I should travel while I don't have a career and I don't have a family to take care of. I wish I could say that I think I'm finally going to study poker and actually care about winning at it. I've been playing recreationally for over 4 years and I've made money at it, but I've never really gotten serious and actually tried to study it. I've never done anything to get better at it. I don't know why. I've even tried to play 6 max cash instead of working part time and all I did during those months was spend my savings and not bother with poker.
I don't understand why I don't try to get better. In everything I've ever done and taken seriously, I've always been the best I could be. I'm very competitive and if I care about what I'm doing, I hate not being at or near the top. This has been in everything my entire life, including school and work. Why isn't it this way with me and poker? The only thing I've ever done since learning how to play is join this forum. I don't read books, I don't watch videos, I don't play hands, I don't talk to people about it. Hell, I've owned all the HOH books since the beginning of time and I haven't even read them yet. I've owned Theory of Poker for over a year and I think I've only bothered to read a couple chapters. I'm such a disappointment.
Oops @ the vent. It just came to mind when I thought about how few hands I've played since starting this thread. And I want to think that I'll finally play more and try to get better once I quit my job and have the time. I don't know if I actually will this time though?
There's nothing wrong with just playing for fun, of course. My lack of work when it comes to poker is just something that bothers me for some reason. |
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Posted: Mon, 05 Oct 2009, 12:35am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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Location: google image happy flower
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Played cash for 2 hours on Thursday and lost $2. Went to play the satellite today and somehow it sold out at 66 seats, so I missed out. I guess that as it gets closer to the event, I'm gonna have to start getting there early to grab a seat. I played cash instead and lost $301 (3.5 hours).
I've been trying to raise more in LP in limped pots and it often works out fine if I'm able to figure out a raise that will usually get me HU. I'm finding it more difficult to play 3-way pots after I've raised in LP, though. I definitely lost more than I made overall c-betting after my raises today. I double barreled a 6622 board once, too, which didn't work out very well
I think I need to play nittier than I have been lately, especially when I'm at tables that don't like to fold to raises.
Totals: +$622 cash (~82 hours), +$609 donkaments. |
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Posted: Mon, 05 Oct 2009, 12:48pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Posts: 1446 WPP: 63
Location: NS, Canada
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| I don't cbet and DB air very often in loose low stake live games especially when it's a multiway pot alreay. ppl in 1/2NL live are mostly unaware of your hand range and only play their own cards(zero level thinking).In some juicy spots, I probably iso/raise/sweeten with Suited broadways from CO or BT and use my position to my advantage to pwn one or two OOP villians. Also, I think that 5-7 hours each session might be optimal considering that you only see about 30 hands per hour. |
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Posted: Wed, 07 Oct 2009, 12:42am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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Location: google image happy flower
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I've usually been pretty nitty with c bets in pots with 3 or more people. I decided to try some 3-way c bets after seeing people instafold to previous similar bets, but I dunno if the risk was worth the potential reward! I agree that some longer sessions would definitely be better... I'm gonna have to wait til I quit my job before I can start doing that on a regular basis.
How often do you take breaks when you're playing a 5-8 hour session? |
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Posted: Wed, 07 Oct 2009, 6:24pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Posts: 1446 WPP: 63
Location: NS, Canada
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| courtiebee wrote: | I've usually been pretty nitty with c bets in pots with 3 or more people. I decided to try some 3-way c bets after seeing people instafold to previous similar bets, but I dunno if the risk was worth the potential reward! I agree that some longer sessions would definitely be better... I'm gonna have to wait til I quit my job before I can start doing that on a regular basis.
How often do you take breaks when you're playing a 5-8 hour session? |
i often popped into my local room late in the evening and rarely took breaks each 4-7 hour session. Most of my huge winnings are made in the last two hours( our room closes at 4am in the morning) when a few blackjack gamblers or drunks come in and gamble with tiny equity BTW, if you're a consistent player you'll be well rewarded in these live donky games. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2009, 12:46am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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200bb effective stacks. I raised to $15 with AQo in MP after two limps and the BB and both limps called. The flop came AK7 rainbow and the BB bet OOP $25. The other players folded. What's my best play here?
The BB had only been around for maybe 10 hands or so. He wasn't overly tight preflop so far but I haven't seen him do much post flop yet.
Do players do this with Ax? I can't think of anything else that he could have that I would beat on this flop.
What's a good stop loss for these silly 1/2 NL games? I usually bring 3 buyins but when I got to -$500 today, I didn't feel like getting any money from the ATM so I just went home
2.5 hours -$500. Totals: +$122 cash (~84 hours), +$609 donkaments. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2009, 11:41am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Location: NS, Canada
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| courtiebee wrote: | 200bb effective stacks. I raised to $15 with AQo in MP after two limps and the BB and both limps called. The flop came AK7 rainbow and the BB bet OOP $25. The other players folded. What's my best play here?
The BB had only been around for maybe 10 hands or so. He wasn't overly tight preflop so far but I haven't seen him do much post flop yet.
Do players do this with Ax? I can't think of anything else that he could have that I would beat on this flop.
What's a good stop loss for these silly 1/2 NL games? I usually bring 3 buyins but when I got to -$500 today, I didn't feel like getting any money from the ATM so I just went home
2.5 hours -$500. Totals: +$122 cash (~84 hours), +$609 donkaments. |
i usually call down vs standard live players depending on their bet sizing and their tendencies. Tight BB has a few worse ace in his donk lead range but i probably give up if he bets BIG on the turn.Usually, I set my normal stop loss limit at 3 buyins. Sometimes i just quit early when i run like dogshit and feel like cards dead.
Last night i sat down at 1/2 NL table about 11pm and folded 90% of unplayable junk hands in the first two hours. Finally, i got dealt AK UTG and limped in with the intention of limp/reraising. One guy behind raised to $25, another guy with big stack called and i shoved all-in 90BB. Big stack donk called with A4s and hit 4 on the flop Yeah, i only dropped one buy-in but left casino immediately after that hand. I know i will come back and PWN these retarded ppl soon.  |
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Posted: Sun, 11 Oct 2009, 3:35pm Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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| pokerfan wrote: | I know i will come back and PWN these retarded ppl soon. | yesss this is what I keep telling myself  |
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Posted: Fri, 16 Oct 2009, 9:39pm Post subject:
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Royal Flush

Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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| courtiebee wrote: | | I've usually been pretty nitty with c bets in pots with 3 or more people. I decided to try some 3-way c bets after seeing people instafold to previous similar bets, but I dunno if the risk was worth the potential reward! |
3-handed, just fire away. You get so many loose calls and they miss their crap so often that you're good. 4 and 5 way pots, sure throw some bluffs in (particulary on dry boards and flops you can represent.) Don't just blast away when the flop comes T87 two suited. |
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Posted: Sat, 17 Oct 2009, 1:11am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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| Sounds good, thanks for the encouragement there. And it's nice to see you, I've missed your posts in this forum! |
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Posted: Sat, 17 Oct 2009, 12:58pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Location: NS, Canada
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| I can't stress enough the importance of table selection in live games.On Friday night I barely made even in the first hour, then I spotted two huge donators and switched to that table. Oh,yeah I was up $800 without bluffing by the end of the night.In a good loose passive game, you should always bet/bet/raise for value. Also,don't miss your river thin value bet vs these unaware players. |
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Posted: Sat, 17 Oct 2009, 6:42pm Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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How do you scout other tables? Do you just get up, wander around, and watch for a while? When I know my table is bad and I need a table change, I never know how to figure out which table to go to. And I suppose you'd need to watch a table for at least a few hands to actually know it's a good one?
I'm such a noob. |
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Posted: Sun, 18 Oct 2009, 11:07am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Location: NS, Canada
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| courtiebee wrote: | How do you scout other tables? Do you just get up, wander around, and watch for a while? When I know my table is bad and I need a table change, I never know how to figure out which table to go to. And I suppose you'd need to watch a table for at least a few hands to actually know it's a good one?
I'm such a noob. |
i do know a few fish, whales and donks in my poker room cuz i play a hell of a lot of poker with these guys Usually, i'd love to sit at a table with lots of old passive guys (fish hunting No. 1 golden rule). Also, i watch out for some guys with a big stack at other tables. |
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Posted: Sun, 18 Oct 2009, 9:38pm Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
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Location: google image happy flower
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Played satellite, busted in the first hour, went home. These things are getting good a turnout now - 10 seats awarded today.
I've decided that I'm not allowed to play anymore live 1/2 until I finish reading TOP
Totals: +$122 cash (~84 hours), +$489 donkaments. |
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