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couple hands vs reg - 5/10 deep

  
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griffey24
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 3:42pm    Post subject: couple hands vs reg - 5/10 deep Reply with quote
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-Villain in both of these hands is the same and he is probably one of the better regs on the site
-some background: most recent hand we had together was yesterday and he posted about it on 2+2
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56/medium-stakes-pl-nl/fps-sexy-310058/
-he got fancy double c/r'ing me and I called him pretty light with tp meh kicker on a wet board
-villain runs 21/17/3.4 with a 3bet of 7% and these were our first big hands together today

Hand 1
-2/5 pounds 270bb deep
-what's the best turn line once raised?

$2/$5 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($1433.40)
BTN ($1354.55)
SB ($495.00)
BB ($373.80)

Pre-flop: ($7, 4 players) Hero is CO Eight of Spades Eight of Clubs
Hero raises to $15, BTN calls $15, 2 folds

Flop: Eight of Diamonds Six of Diamonds King of Diamonds ($37, 2 players)
Hero bets $30, BTN calls $30

Turn: Ace of Hearts ($97, 2 players)
Hero bets $75, BTN raises to $275, Hero ??


Hand 2
-2/5 pounds and deep
-Not sure what the best way to play this hand is. I feel like villain would expect me to 4-bet AA/AK/KK and he's probably mostly right so a flop raise isn't repping too much
-I'm really tempted to raise turn though

$2/$5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($485.00)
Hero ($2110.55)
BTN ($493.00)
SB ($1022.80)
BB ($990.15)

Pre-flop: ($7, 5 players) Hero is CO Queen of Spades Ace of Spades
1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 1 fold, SB raises to $55, 1 fold, Hero calls $40

Flop: Nine of Spades King of Clubs Eight of Spades ($115, 2 players)
SB bets $90, Hero calls $90

Turn: Jack of Diamonds ($295, 2 players)
SB bets $265, Hero so wants to raise..?
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pocketfours
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 6:55pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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1) You can't make a very big mistake here. I'd usually call this down, but raise is fine too.

2) You like your IO or FE here? IO seems pretty decent at least. You can still rep stuff like JJ/98s/KJ/99/88 even though some of those don't seem very probable. I'd lean towards calling, but if he's very loose from the SB and barrels a lot, then a raise can be good too. Don't overestimate your pot equity though.
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griffey24
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 7:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pocketfours wrote:
1) You can't make a very big mistake here. I'd usually call this down, but raise is fine too.

2) You like your IO or FE here? IO seems pretty decent at least. You can still rep stuff like JJ/98s/KJ/99/88 even though some of those don't seem very probable. I'd lean towards calling, but if he's very loose from the SB and barrels a lot, then a raise can be good too. Don't overestimate your pot equity though.


1) if you call, what's your plan for a diamond river? Just c/f?

2) Yah I figured that definitely with position + implied odds, flatting the turn is definitely going to be profitable when I hit. It's hard to figure out if raising is more profitable though... or maybe even a flop raise?
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 9:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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Hand 1: interesting spot. Agree with p4's.

Hand 2: Definitely call
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Genitruc
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 10:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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after you don t raise the flop I don't think you can raise turn in hand 2

hand 1 it's a little thin but it sounds like you guys have a spewy dynamic so I'd call and CR any non-diamond riv
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griffey24
Post Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 1:34am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yah hand 2 I agree with the comments so far, and I definitely just flatted the turn. River blanked and he bombed and I folded.

Hand 1 contined:
-whats my best river play? am I afraid of a better boat here ever?

$2/$5 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($1433.40)
BTN ($1354.55)
SB ($495.00)
BB ($373.80)

Pre-flop: ($7, 4 players) Hero is CO Eight of Spades Eight of Clubs
Hero raises to $15, BTN calls $15, 2 folds

Flop: Eight of Diamonds Six of Diamonds King of Diamonds ($37, 2 players)
Hero bets $25, BTN calls $25

Turn: Ace of Hearts ($87, 2 players)
Hero bets $70, BTN raises to $275, Hero calls $205

River: Ace of Diamonds ($637, 2 players)
Hero ??
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Genitruc
Post Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 2:21am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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crai imo
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Alexos
Post Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 2:30am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Genitruc wrote:
crai imo


yep
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Oct 2008, 2:39am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i dont know, if he just pots it i think id just call
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