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Posted: Mon, 18 Dec 2006, 11:05am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Thanks Pelion...I'm getting a headache thinking about that now.
I assume AYC means "all your chips"? I like to try to guess these things but I'm usually wrong. |
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Posted: Mon, 18 Dec 2006, 11:11am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
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Location: Following the Herd to 6-Max Land
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| uscheese wrote: | | I assume AYC means "all your chips"? I like to try to guess these things but I'm usually wrong. |
kinda. Although it actually stands for "All You Can Eat, Baby" - which basically means getting your chips in the middle / going all-in.
I'll update this later when I get home from work. |
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Posted: Mon, 18 Dec 2006, 11:45am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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Posted: Mon, 18 Dec 2006, 11:51am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
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Location: Following the Herd to 6-Max Land
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| Away from Keyboard (I take it you've been on Vent / IRC)? |
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Posted: Fri, 19 Jan 2007, 4:02pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 06 May 2006
Posts: 127
WPP: 66
Location: Saskatoon, Canada
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Crying Call?
I've seen this a lot, but I'm not sure if I have the definition right. Is it calling a raise on the river where you maybe/probably beat, but because of the large pot you can't fold?
I tried searching the forums and the contexts that I found the phrase in seem to suggest that anyway. |
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Posted: Fri, 19 Jan 2007, 4:22pm Post subject:
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 5718
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Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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basically u got it.
Its when you make a call expecting to lose, but think you are good enough of the time to justify calling for the generous pot odds you are getting. |
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Posted: Fri, 19 Jan 2007, 6:52pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri, 19 Jan 2007, 7:04pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
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Posted: Thu, 01 Mar 2007, 4:58pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209
WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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havent seen cooler yet. my definition is prolly wrong. but, i see it a lot on the river when a 1-2 outer hits.
he got "coolered." or, the "cooler card" hit on the river.
the dictionary says, "cold deck." somehow i dont think thats how mike "the mouth" uses it on tv. |
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Posted: Fri, 02 Mar 2007, 10:35am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
Posts: 3173
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Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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| Cooler is the opposite of heater, isn't it? It implies a run of bad luck, whether it's in terms of bad beats or simply not getting making hands. |
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Posted: Fri, 02 Mar 2007, 12:15pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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so, i suppose if you dont hit your card (flush draw) on the river, you GOT coolered.
meaning, you cannot "cooler" somebody when it is you that sucks out.
i think i got it. but i guess it was good for my image to look like the idiot i was when misusing the term...  |
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Posted: Fri, 02 Mar 2007, 12:27pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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| I don't think not hitting your draw counts as a cooler - I mean, that's the likely outcome, right? |
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Posted: Fri, 02 Mar 2007, 12:30pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
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cooler = cold deck. they both mean you have a basically unfoldable hand (given stack size) against a better hand:
example, KK vs AA, set over set, K high flush vs A high flush, 9x on a 87654 board if opp has 9T, etc.
classic example from HSP was the pot with Daniel and Gus where they both flopped sets - cooler for Gus- until Gus made quads (super cooler!). |
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Posted: Fri, 02 Mar 2007, 1:46pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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thank you. it s the "unfoldable" part i was missing.
i thought cold-decked was playing 400+ hands and not but a very few raisable hands, given situations, and then missing flops with the few chances you get. or all your marginals being dealt to you in ep, where you know you cant play most of them. basically, just the deck running "cold" to you.
a 2nd best hand (set over set) is not a cold-deck, to me. it's just an unfortunate situation handed to you at the expense of a poker god's sense of humor.
but, i learned something today. thank you. |
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Posted: Fri, 02 Mar 2007, 1:48pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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| biondino wrote: | | I don't think not hitting your draw counts as a cooler - I mean, that's the likely outcome, right? |
absolutely correct, but in terms of running cold, draws dont hit even once in a session. when hot, they all seem to hit... |
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Posted: Sat, 03 Mar 2007, 12:03am Post subject:
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Full House
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 11:38am Post subject:
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High Card
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 11:45am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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Posted: Tue, 01 May 2007, 12:03pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
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Location: Dundee - Scotland
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Posted: Tue, 01 May 2007, 12:46pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
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Cooler and cold deck both originate from live poker where someone switches the deck in play to a stacked deck, probably using some kind of sleight of hand.
The new deck is designed to have a situation where you cant help but lose all your money.
Once a deck has been in play for a while the cards are slightly warmed up by the players and dealers hands. The new, stacked deck is therefore a "cold deck".
These days it doesnt imply any kind of cheating and just means a situation where you just get unlucky and cant help but lose your money because of cards/ stacks/ situation or whatever.
A heater is the opposite and I guess the term heater probably came around later as an opposite to cooler. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 May 2007, 1:19pm Post subject:
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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| Random_Hero wrote: | | whats an "overlay"? |
in a hand of poker overlay is usually the money currently in the pot.
Example, if you are in the bb in a donkament with T7o, the blinds are 200/400/25ante, and a 1200 stack goes all in, it folds to you. You are almost certain that his hand beats you, yet you still must call because you are getting ridic good pot odds, the 800ish worth of overlay (your posted bb, the posted sb, and 8-9 25 antes) is forcing you to make a plus ev call.
Also, overlay exists in a different way in an unprotected pot when you are semibluffing. You might decide its a good idea to bet/3bet all in on someone with nothing but a flush draw (32% chance of winning when all in), you figure he folds enough so that the overlay pays you off well enough that you don't care the times he calls and you have to gamble.
Also, whenever you make any bet with positive expectation, the amount you are profiting is considered overlay. Like if i were dumb enough to propose that if you bet 1 dollar that this coin comes heads when i flip it, i'll give you a 10 dollar Bonus whenever it comes heads twice in a row, then that 10 dollars would be overlay on your neutral ev proposition (flipping a coin for 1 dollar), and turning it into a very plus ev proposition. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 May 2007, 1:35pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
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Location: Dundee - Scotland
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| cheers Renton |
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Posted: Tue, 01 May 2007, 2:05pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| Also overlay is when theres a tournament with a guranteed prize pool but not enough entrants to cover the guarantee. EX: $100 buyin and a $20,000 guarantee, but only 120 entrants. This means there is only $12,000 in entry fees but still $20,000 prize pool, the $8,000 is the overlay. |
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Posted: Tue, 01 May 2007, 2:09pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Tue, 01 May 2007, 2:32pm Post subject:
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Radmin
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| It's {acronym Renton hates}, swig. |
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Posted: Wed, 30 May 2007, 9:11pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| thread of boc, ldoness ?? whats this? |
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Posted: Sun, 10 Jun 2007, 4:44am Post subject:
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Full House
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Posted: Sun, 10 Jun 2007, 5:36am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Sun, 10 Jun 2007, 8:16am Post subject:
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Eats babies
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| blind vs blind. In hands where only the blinds play, since it was folded around. |
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Posted: Sun, 10 Jun 2007, 3:59pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
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Like DUH obviously
And how about (e.g. someone is) ...
... tool?
... douchebag? |
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Posted: Wed, 25 Jul 2007, 1:49am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Xianti wrote: | | It's {acronym Renton hates}, swig. |
i guess it begs the question...now that i'm seeing it again.
what is "the acronym Renton hates," and is there a story behind it? |
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Posted: Wed, 25 Jul 2007, 12:26pm Post subject:
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OLD MAN RIVER
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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| Renton hates acronyms and rants about it occasionally, hence {acronym Renton hates} or {arh}. |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 9:38am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 06 Aug 2005
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| Chopper wrote: | | Xianti wrote: | | It's {acronym Renton hates}, swig. |
i guess it begs the question...now that i'm seeing it again.
what is "the acronym Renton hates," and is there a story behind it? |
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=54357
{acronym Renton hates} = {sigla que Renton odia} |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 9:42am Post subject:
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Full House
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| mrhappy333 wrote: | | thread of boc, ldoness ?? whats this? | the 'ness' of {acronym Renton hates} (L-D-O) (Like, Duh, Obviously) |
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Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 4:25am Post subject:
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Two Pair
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What does the t mean?
ie:
hero t250
villian t950 |
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Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 4:51am Post subject:
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OLD MAN RIVER
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 5:36pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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TWF ??
could that be WTF? like teh = the. |
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Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 5:42am Post subject:
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One Pair
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| what does "2 barrel" mean? |
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Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 5:46am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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Location: Viva la Puteria! / Nar Shaddaa Red Sector obv.
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| Bet (lead) with air on flop and turn |
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Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 6:15am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 08 May 2007
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OK - heres one that always gets me.
What's the difference between "smooth" calling and "flat" calling? I'm sure I've been told before but cant find the thread. |
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Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 6:44am Post subject:
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One Pair
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| rusticity wrote: | New member question. I'm certain this isn't the most ideal place to ask, but is there a way to turn off poster avatars/sigs. I personally dont mind, but some are a bit too racy for office viewing. Thanks in advance.
Wow, asked like a true n00b. Thanks for the below post. |
if you only want to block some but not all avatars, you can use "adblock", its a firefox extension that lets you block individual pictures. |
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Posted: Fri, 26 Oct 2007, 7:38am Post subject:
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Two Pair
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| What does felting mean? I think i know but i want to make sure |
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Posted: Fri, 26 Oct 2007, 9:58am Post subject:
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Full House
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| Lighty NCFC wrote: | | What does felting mean? I think i know but i want to make sure | Going All-In. Taking it to the felt. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 Nov 2007, 8:23am Post subject:
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| wow wat a large list. Great work guys! I will read this now and then i know all about poker |
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Posted: Sun, 11 Nov 2007, 10:12am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
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| Quote: | | 3-Bet = to make the 2nd raise in limit poker |
Used in no-limit a lot now obv. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 Nov 2007, 10:25am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| No-one answered smooth call vs flat call. Also, cold call? Is there any difference between the three? |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| OMFG I just typed smooth call into google and found the best page evar!!! Quotes to follow... |
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Posted: Sun, 11 Nov 2007, 10:37am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
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| Quote: | | However, some rookie players will make a huge bet with AA or KK because they believe the rumor that if you slow play a great hand it will get wrecked. All it takes is to get screwed over once with AA or KK to make you think that you have to bet huge. This is a mistake. |
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The action is to Tom and, as expected, he comes out firing a $250 bet. What now? Well, you could come back over the top of him and take this pot right now. Or you can do another smooth call and go for the kill. You think for a few moments, hesitate as if you are in great pain, and then smooth call by matching his $250. |
| Quote: | There are 2 main "conditions" for performing a smooth call, here they are:
1. You must have AA, KK or maybe QQ. Big Slick (AK) is a risk as you have nothing. A pair of 3's can kick your butt. If there is only 1 player in the hand you can try to play AK on a smooth call if you are in late position.
2. You have good positioning. Fold your AA if more than 3 people are in a huge pot preflop. Heads-up AA is only 64% pre-flop. With 3 or more it goes down to 39%. Most people won't risk their stack for a 1/3 chance to win. |
AMAZING!
If anyone had any doubt, this is a smooth call ppls.
What I like best about it is the way it suggest you can only call a raise pre with QQ+ |
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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smooth call: calling a bet with nothing invested in the pot this street
cold call: calling a raise with nothing invested in the pot this street
flat call: calling a raise with a bet invested this street
overcall: calling a bet or raise after one or more ppl in the middle have called
the extreme overuse of "flat calling" drives me completely nuts |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Renton wrote: | cold call: calling a raise with nothing invested in the pot this street
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So, for example, if someone raises(opens) pre UTG to 4bb and I call on the button, I cold called? |
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