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nish81
Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 6:27pm    Post subject: collusion or psychic? Reply with quote
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PokerStars Game #29885494913: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2009/06/29 0:09:32 EET [2009/06/28 17:09:32 ET]
Table 'Pamina V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: parcharge ($1.83 in chips)
Seat 3: clifflonglll ($2.33 in chips)
Seat 4: Guisseppe ($1.17 in chips)
Seat 6: NotElNinho ($1 in chips)
Seat 7: hugopeich ($0.86 in chips)
Seat 8: ollie.99.91 ($1.91 in chips)
Seat 9: sara34 ($2 in chips)
ollie.99.91: posts small blind $0.01
sara34: posts big blind $0.02
Tomatino: sits out
OLIVERTE: sits out
NotElNinho: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ollie.99.91 [6c 7d]
parcharge: folds
clifflonglll: folds
Guisseppe: folds
NotElNinho: checks
hugopeich: raises $0.06 to $0.08
ollie.99.91: folds
sara34: calls $0.06
NotElNinho: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 5c 3c]
sara34: bets $0.08
sara34 said, "88"
hugopeich: raises $0.70 to $0.78 and is all-in
sara34: calls $0.70
*** TURN *** [4c 5c 3c] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [4c 5c 3c 4d] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sara34: shows [Jc Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
hugopeich: shows [8h 8c] (a full house, Eights full of Fours)
hugopeich collected $1.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.75 | Rake $0.05
Board [4c 5c 3c 4d 8s]
Seat 1: parcharge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: clifflonglll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Guisseppe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: NotElNinho folded before Flop
Seat 7: hugopeich (button) showed [8h 8c] and won ($1.70) with a full house, Eights full of Fours
Seat 8: ollie.99.91 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: sara34 (big blind) showed [Jc Ac] and lost with a flush, Ace high
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Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 7:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 8:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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get this nish out of here.
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Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 9:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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def not collusion
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Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 9:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Its 2nl and the flopped nutflush got all in against a flopped overpair + FD and there was a suckout. Std.
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Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 9:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 9:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 9:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Do you guys not know how the fucking read? Do you not see the bolded 'sara34 said, "88"' in the hand history before the hands were turned over? Coming from the guy that had the flush draw?

It could be luck, or whatever. But kinda seems like maybe he was typing it somewhere else and accidentally the enter button on the table.

Either way, even if they are colluding, they just felted each other with noone else in he pot, so whatever.
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Post Posted: Sun, 28 Jun 2009, 11:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 4:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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bjsaust wrote:
Its 2nl and the flopped nutflush got all in against a flopped overpair + FD and there was a suckout. Std.


spoonitnow wrote:
Just variance


I wasn't talking about the hand..i was talking about sara identifying the other guy as having 88 on the flop. and then he goes allin after she says that
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 7:48am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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not sure how someone saying what their own hand is makes them psychic unless they're blind or were deciding to play with their eyes shut.

as far as collusion goes, no, unless they are retarded and don't know how to collude. i see people making a bet and if the villain things for long enough then they'll pull a tough guy move and say what their hand is (and they're almost never lying because they think that they've mindfucked you when really you just have to know that they're never lying in order to mindfuck you). a tv example of this is in the wsop where the ucf fighter lindell told the opponent that he had two pair (which he did because he doesn't know how to play poker at all and had like 73o or some crap).

it's just illegal table talk
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 7:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Would anyone like to collude on 2NL with me and make some serious moniez?
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 7:59am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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surviva316 wrote:
not sure how someone saying what their own hand is makes them psychic unless they're blind or were deciding to play with their eyes shut.

as far as collusion goes, no, unless they are retarded and don't know how to collude. i see people making a bet and if the villain things for long enough then they'll pull a tough guy move and say what their hand is (and they're almost never lying because they think that they've mindfucked you when really you just have to know that they're never lying in order to mindfuck you). a tv example of this is in the wsop where the ucf fighter lindell told the opponent that he had two pair (which he did because he doesn't know how to play poker at all and had like 73o or some crap).

it's just illegal table talk



...jeez man. it's not her own hand. read the bolded parts?
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 8:07am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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oh...stacks' reply confused me and led me toward thinking they were revealing their own hand. the fact that it wasn't the person's hand who said it was their hand makes me even more certain that it's not collusion, though (all the previous points still apply plus the point that why the f would a couple of people who are doing something that's risking their entire bankroll because it's illegal show off the fact that they know each other's hands.

as for whether or not sara's psychic...
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 8:07am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Bunch of Jennifer Tilly's in this thread.

SARA34 (!!!!!) SAYS 88
HugoPeich (!!!!!) HAS 88.

GAWDDDDDD


I don't know if it's collusion or just some wierd coincidence, but with no-one else in the pot it doesn't matter too much nish.
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 8:22am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I did misread, thought the guy with 88 said 88.

Anyway, given sara bet 0.08 it could easy be mistyped. Usually the chat would come first but maybe she tabbed out, bet and then pressed enter back in the chat box somehow.
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 4:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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collusion to take 2 bucks off someone....unlikely

cheating so she sees ppl's cards and can fail at 2nl...unlikely

random luck/coincidence with typing...ya ding ding ding.

like really, this is kind of {acronym Renton hates} aint it?
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 7:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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XxStacksxX wrote:
Do you guys not know how the fucking read? Do you not see the bolded 'sara34 said, "88"' in the hand history before the hands were turned over? Coming from the guy that had the flush draw?

It could be luck, or whatever. But kinda seems like maybe he was typing it somewhere else and accidentally the enter button on the table.

Either way, even if they are colluding, they just felted each other with noone else in he pot, so whatever.


Can you say "felted" in an online game where there's no felt?
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Post Posted: Mon, 29 Jun 2009, 11:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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COI
(Coincidental Optical Illusions)

If you are looking for something .....
You may find it ....

Laughing


Not Collusion IMO.
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 2:38pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Not sure what the motivation to collude would be here. Just coincidence imo.
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Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 3:06pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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probably psychic
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nish81
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Jun 2009, 3:06pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No-one addressed the possibility sara is psychic..seems like an important read to have on an opponent to me
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 12:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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nish81 wrote:
No-one addressed the possibility sara is psychic..seems like an important read to have on an opponent to me




psychic

That explains everything .....

Nice !!!!!
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 4:15am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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nish81 wrote:
No-one addressed the possibility sara is psychic..seems like an important read to have on an opponent to me
if I see sara winning over 9,000,000 against durrrrr in HU later this year, then I'll give credence to this theory
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