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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 11:21am Post subject: Cocco Bill's Graph on 2p2 (for those who didn't see)
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 11:25am Post subject: Re: Cocco Bill's Graph on 2p2 (for those who didn't see)
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Flush
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| Cocco Bill wrote: | | So where is this variance everyone bitches about |
LAWL!!! |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 11:40am Post subject:
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Full House
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 11:53am Post subject:
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I think most of the hate in there is just sarcastic jealousy. The only notable exception is that guy complaining that Cocco plays soft competition and thus is not impressive.
I know sarcastic isn't the right word... what I mean to say is that they're just joking. |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 12:32pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| It's amazing that the mid and high stakes regs just refuse to believe that a more passive playing style can win. Their loss I guess. |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 12:55pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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That's mostly praise and the couple people who call him a nit (I quit reading about 1/3 down) get called out.
Nice graph, thanks ISF |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 12:56pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| Obv Cocco is v good but I have a feeling he has extremely good game selection and probably plays games where the VPIP is quite high, which would explain why his stats is so passive. No use being very aggro against a table full of calling stations. |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 1:00pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| arkana wrote: | | Obv Cocco is v good but I have a feeling he has extremely good game selection and probably plays games where the VPIP is quite high, which would explain why his stats is so passive. No use being very aggro against a table full of calling stations. | I was looking at his updated stats. Is it save to say table selection is HUGE since he's spread so many hands across so many levels?
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2196/400kstatsww2.jpg |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 1:17pm Post subject:
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{NSFW - nipple}
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Yeah there's only one guy really hating on him. It's just stupid to claim he'd get "destroyed" at another site wih tougher players though. Renton makes a good argument that Coco has simply adjusted his game to an unorthadox way which, althought it doesn't look optimal stats-wise, actually is for the sites he plays. Of course the guy he's arguing with threw back a clever "No because, just because!" response, so touche.
He has been able to adjust his style to win lots off these passive types, I think he could just as easily adjust it for toughers games. Obviously his winrate most likely won't be as high, but there's no way he'll get destroyed. |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 1:44pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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The argument that he won't be winning as much on PS or FT or wtv is bullshit. And that he plays 20/11...that's just retarded...Whether he plays 5/2 or 36/32 the graph is just amazing and we play poker to have fun/make money right?
Nice job Cocco u nit:P |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 3:22pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
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| why would he play on ps/ft if he could play where he is. poker is about making money not about making everyone respect your game. i am envious. |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 3:25pm Post subject:
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| if coco turns up, didnt he say he destroyed the stars midstakes games anyway at some point also...? |
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Posted: Fri, 28 Sep 2007, 5:00pm Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage
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There's too much poker content in the commune. I don't want to read about poker when I go to the commune, I want to shut my brain off.
{from commune} |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 4:32pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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did he say what site he was on? I cant be bothered reading every idiotic post from 2p2.
Nice graph though |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 12:26am Post subject:
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| martypalin wrote: | did he say what site he was on? I cant be bothered reading every idiotic post from 2p2.
Nice graph though |
I play on the Prima network, one of the biggest sites for short handed no limit. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 12:30am Post subject:
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | if coco turns up, didnt he say he destroyed the stars midstakes games anyway at some point also...? |
well i played about 30k hands of 200nl 6-max(pre legislation) with a winrate of a bit over 7ptBB/100 on PokerStars.
I alsso never had any problems beating the games on Party Poker, Ongame network and B2B. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 12:38am Post subject:
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Full House
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| MDMA on 2+2 is a well known poker coach in the swedish poker community. He has coached some of my friends who I play against regularly on Prima. He is probably correct saying that my overall style would not work in the toughest games and it annoys him when some people might be lead to believe so when seeing my results. I think he underestimates my ability to adapt my play to individual opponents though. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 5:31pm Post subject:
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| Cocco_Bill wrote: | | Miffed22001 wrote: | | if coco turns up, didnt he say he destroyed the stars midstakes games anyway at some point also...? |
well i played about 30k hands of 200nl 6-max(pre legislation) with a winrate of a bit over 7ptBB/100 on PokerStars.
I alsso never had any problems beating the games on Party Poker, Ongame network and B2B. |
possibly with the exception of the B2B network, we bot hknow those other games are easier than the US dominated sites, but not to join the group who take away from your acheivments. I just know im perhaps capable of eventually beating 5/10nl on the euro sites but not on US sites i dont think. |
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