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shysti
Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 4:18pm    Post subject: Cheating Girlfriend? Reply with quote
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Just wanted to know if any of you have had the cheating girlfriend who claims she loves you until you either caught her, or found out she was cheating?

Did you have any clues, behavior patterns? I am suspecting but not accusing at this point, we have had turmoil since like the 4th month out of this almost 2 yr relationship. I don't believe myself to have trust issues, but I have been cheated on before and all the signs are kinda pointing to yes, even though I don't have concreate proof.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 4:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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My ex-common-law of 10yrs had an affair. Warning signs: changes in usual routine, out shopping/out for drinks with girlfriend/out period more than usual, more attention to make-up/grooming than usual, showering when she got home. I confronted her and she denied it but I finally discovered it for sure when I came across an unfinished e-mail as I was shutting down her computer in our home office during a thunderstorm. She ended up marrying the guy, poor fellow.

Good riddance.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 4:47pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Without going into it all, I am just using logic to come to my conclusion. I am the independent person in the relationship, while she is the more needy/clingy person.

She needs attention and lately I haven't given it to her because it's usually tied to drama, the only complicated matter is our child so I hang on until I can find a proper solution. But standing from a logical standpoint, here is this girl who wants my attention and for me to be in this relationshp but she isn't getting it, so she doesn't trust me!

When I know personally I am not out doing anything behind her back, nor have I ever. I am more concerned with college, my daugther, getting better at poker and working out and getting in better shape. How she thinks another woman fits into that I don't know.

However, I look at her situation she is the one who is more focused on having someone who will give her the attention she requires than the rest of her life, so who's to say she isn't out seeking that attention she desperately needs?

That's where the lack of trust starts...
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 6:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hm... idk I agree with the signs that warpe pointed out because I saw it with my ex... I hope it works out mine didnt end to well when I found out...


I ended up walking in on her and one of my best buddies hooking up on my bed after I left my class early. Ended up getting a good shot in on his jaw before she got inbetween us, needless to say I dont speak to any of them anymore...

:/


relationship was only 5 months old
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 6:28pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think its fine to be curious and be open to clues that shes cheating on you. However its a problem when you let it consume you. And by doing this you let it ruin the relationship.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 6:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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boostNslide wrote:
I think its fine to be curious and be open to clues that shes cheating on you. However its a problem when you let it consume you. And by doing this you let it ruin the relationship.


Actually, it hasn't consumed me because at this point there's been so much drama between her and I, I don't really care. My true concern is our daughter. But still I don't want to be the one who's a donk for having her seeing some dude if she is going to cause all this drama in my life.

If he does exist I just wish she would fill his life with the drama and leave me alone, hell I would give him a thank you for taking her off my hands.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 6:41pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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hah.. Yah truthfully one of the worst things about cheating now adays is STDs. Youre exposing your gf/bf to the possibility of an STD, and tahts just so fucked up. I mean then theres the whole being dishonest to a person that trusts and cares about you.

But seriously.. I think if my gf cheated on me, and I found out, Id just drop her, and never talk to her again. But if she cheated on me, and gave me some incureable shit, Id shoot her.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 6:51pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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boostNslide wrote:
hah.. Yah truthfully one of the worst things about cheating now adays is STDs. Youre exposing your gf/bf to the possibility of an STD, and tahts just so fucked up. I mean then theres the whole being dishonest to a person that trusts and cares about you.

But seriously.. I think if my gf cheated on me, and I found out, Id just drop her, and never talk to her again. But if she cheated on me, and gave me some incureable shit, Id shoot her.


agreed
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 7:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Had a girlfriend in college cheat on me a little over two years into it. Was a long-distance relationship thing, about 2 hours away, but we had lived close by previously, so wasn't like long-distance the whole time. I had no clue, and she didn't tell me until like 6 months later.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 7:35pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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just put it in her butt. She will end all affairs
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 7:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 8:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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flomo wrote:
If you can't spot the sucker at the table then the sucker is you.


I strongly disagree with the use of this quote to describe his situation.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 8:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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spoonitnow wrote:
flomo wrote:
If you can't spot the sucker at the table then the sucker is you.


I strongly disagree with the use of this quote to describe his situation.


Laughing seriously because some women can be the sneakest ninja like bastards you've ever met!
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 8:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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like today she calls me up while I am at work and is talking to me and asks if I really love her, because she really needs to know.

Im like why so you can decide whether or not to go with the guy you are interested in? lol she says no because of what happened this weekend.

I went to this party (rave like) and I got hella drunk and of course at some point during the night my shirt came off (from dancing and being hot) so I came home with it inside out and all day saturday I am accused of cheating wtf! lol

Literally in my face all day sat tryin to start a fight, so I am like get out of my face I am in the middle of a Sng...she didn't stop, I tell her it's over, sick of this bs blah blah blah.

So she says she asked if I really love her because we keep breakin up and some other reason I kinda tuned her out after that
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 8:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Sounds like she still wants to be with you.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 8:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Warpe wrote:
Sounds like she still wants to be with you.


Yeah I gather that much but it doesn't mean she doesn't want to be with someone else also. She doesn't trust me (and I've never given her a reason not to btw) and she thinks I am out with other women, and usually when you have someone accusing you of cheating often it is them who is doing the cheating.
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shysti wrote:
Warpe wrote:
Sounds like she still wants to be with you.


Yeah I gather that much but it doesn't mean she doesn't want to be with someone else also. She doesn't trust me (and I've never given her a reason not to btw) and she thinks I am out with other women, and usually when you have someone accusing you of cheating often it is them who is doing the cheating.


No, that's someone who's insecure in the relationship...but if they go on thinking you're cheating on them, then they start looking at their options.

Edit: Go to counselling, either alone or together. Trust me, it's worth it.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 8:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yep that was one of the requirements after our last break up, she begged me back and I said only if we go to counseling. Which I have yet to see her even start looking for a counsler, so I'll have to do it.
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You're sort of right here but your timing is off. She is not cheating on you yet but where she wouldn't cheat on you before, there is now that possibility. If some snakey fag comes along and plays his cards right he will score. At this point you control the hand and can make things go whichever way you want. You can fix it ot leave it, and you know the results of each action.
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Post Posted: Mon, 27 Mar 2006, 11:21pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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she sounds kinda nutty... But I think you should sit her down and just make it clear that you are not cheating. If she cant hear your reason for having your shirt inside out, and trust you, then you guys just cnat be together. She obvioulsy is not listening to reason, and when soemone cant listen to reason, how can you, as a logicl reasonable person be with them?

oh.. and why do you go to raves? thats pretty homosexual. Do you twirl glow sticks and have glow in the dark pacifiers?
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Give me her name, number and addresss. I'll find out if she's cheating or not guarenteed.
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boostNslide wrote:
oh.. and why do you go to raves? thats pretty homosexual. Do you twirl glow sticks and have glow in the dark pacifiers?


So that's what beer shooting through my nose tastes like. lmfao! Caught me off gaurd with that one...
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Give me her name, number and addresss. I'll find out if she's cheating or not guarenteed.


Yeah, Rilla is the lady expert. They always consider him "one of the girls" if you know what I mean.
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haha, glad to be of service gala, and good to see you around again. Its been a while, is everything gravy on the Gala-train?
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haha, glad to be of service gala, and good to see you around again. Its been a while, is everything gravy on the Gala-train?


Thanks, good to be back. All's gravy indeed my friend. Hoping to be back up to 100NL by the end of the month, of course after the two beats I just took while browsing this forum I might make it two...
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Don't knock raves... They're not my thing, but the guys I know that did the rave thing got laid like rock stars.

You can't be with the girl JUST because of your daughter, right? I mean, you got together before the kid popped out. If you can find a reason besides your daughter to be with her, then you gotta talk to her straight up. Shit, be her emotional tampon for a lil while!
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Someone should do a scientific study on the average amount of posts it takes for a thread to get off topic (yes I realize the irony of my post)
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bigred wrote:
Someone should do a scientific study on the average amount of posts it takes for a thread to get off topic (yes I realize the irony of my post)


Irony? I love irony! Hey, what's everyone's most memorable ironic tragedy??
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Shysti, clearly you don't actually want to be with her (if poker is more important to you than she is, that's a pretty damn clear indication), so why don't YOU get the courage to talk to her and tell her it's not working? You seem to dislike her, resent her, not trust her - it subconsciously sounds like you're looking for a way out here.

I'm not suggesting you're treating her badly, but clearly you're not giving her what she wants/needs and it sounds like she's not giving you what you want either. In my experience, 18 months or so with someone is about what it takes to know if you're good together - sounds like you've got to two years and the answer is a pretty clear "no".
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boostNslide wrote:
she sounds kinda nutty... But I think you should sit her down and just make it clear that you are not cheating. If she cant hear your reason for having your shirt inside out, and trust you, then you guys just cnat be together. She obvioulsy is not listening to reason, and when soemone cant listen to reason, how can you, as a logicl reasonable person be with them?

oh.. and why do you go to raves? thats pretty homosexual. Do you twirl glow sticks and have glow in the dark pacifiers?



Laughing haha no, I love the music, what you are describing never happens where I go
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dev wrote:
Don't knock raves... They're not my thing, but the guys I know that did the rave thing got laid like rock stars.

You can't be with the girl JUST because of your daughter, right? I mean, you got together before the kid popped out. If you can find a reason besides your daughter to be with her, then you gotta talk to her straight up. Shit, be her emotional tampon for a lil while!


Laughing haha yeah that's one reason she doesn't trust me because when we met before we moved to florida I was heavy into the scene and was indeed doing the rock star thing, massive after parties with nothin but nake women running around and me takin showers with like 3 of em at a time, but once I met her that changed.

And I have changed, don't do that kind of thing now that I live back in this area and go out to the same events, I don't even go to after parties any more.
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biondino wrote:
Shysti, clearly you don't actually want to be with her (if poker is more important to you than she is, that's a pretty damn clear indication), so why don't YOU get the courage to talk to her and tell her it's not working? You seem to dislike her, resent her, not trust her - it subconsciously sounds like you're looking for a way out here.

I'm not suggesting you're treating her badly, but clearly you're not giving her what she wants/needs and it sounds like she's not giving you what you want either. In my experience, 18 months or so with someone is about what it takes to know if you're good together - sounds like you've got to two years and the answer is a pretty clear "no".



You hit it right on the nail. I will never treat her bad regardless of how I feel. But I mean you know there are only so many times you can try to share your world, be a nice guy , and try to get along with someone before you realize no matter what you do, they continue to throw drama in your face.

Soon you get resentful, upset, and disappointed. Then being who I am you even give her the benefit of the doubt, forgive her for the drama, but then it happens over and over again... I am just done with it.

I mean I just sick of being in a bad mood, this morning she dropped me off at the metro, and we argued. She was like can you ask your boss if you can get april 28th off for the wedding (her friend's wedding) and I was like I already told you my boss said leave is done for april already. When I asked you to give me the date for the wedding so I can request it off you gave me 4/29 which my boss returned to me because it's a Saturday and I am already off that day.

It isn't my fault you gave me the wrong day, she argued her point was I should of assumed she meant that weekend, and requested friday off. I was like how was I to know that the day YOU gave me 4/29 was a sat before I submitted it? When I told you specifically to give me the date I needed off, she concluded that I just didn't want to go thats why I wont even ask my boss. While I retorted there's no point she already told me that leave is done for that month!

It's like she doesn't listen, and it wasn't my fault. I mean when you ask someone to give you the date so they can stop pestering you about it, and you actually submit it and it's the wrong damn date, then who's fault is it?

Talk about having tilt in the morning geeez Mad
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My girlfriend is a total drama queen. She breaks a nail and it's like her mother just got hit by a truck.
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Rondavu wrote:
My girlfriend is a total drama queen. She breaks a nail and it's like her mother just got hit by a truck.


You have one of those two Mad
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jeez I feel bad for you guys. My girlfreind can be like that sometimes but it doesnt take that much effort for her to listen to reason. And then she does this cute pouting thing (only when in private.. we arent one of those sick couples taht baby talk each other in front of everyone) and then we end up cuddling, and cuddling quickly turns into raunchy sex... soo .. yah that shits cool
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I just came to hte conclusion that she only does this so that we can have make up sex. man my gf is great...
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jeez I feel bad for you guys. My girlfreind can be like that sometimes but it doesnt take that much effort for her to listen to reason. And then she does this cute pouting thing (only when in private.. we arent one of those sick couples taht baby talk each other in front of everyone) and then we end up cuddling, and cuddling quickly turns into raunchy sex... soo .. yah that shits cool

boostNslide wrote:
I just came to hte conclusion that she only does this so that we can have make up sex. man my gf is great...


My ex (same girl) did this shit too, but afterwards you're missing the "then accuses me of just using her for sex afterwards" part.
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Shysti,

I've read the whole thread, and I think I agree with biond. You've got lots of reasons why you're not digging the relationship anymore, and it sounds like you don't even like her at this point. Maybe you almost wish she was cheating on you so you'd have an easy out.

Be a man, tell her you're not happy and haven't been for a while. Be straight up with her on how you feel and make it known that you aren't going to do it anymore. The child makes it complicated, but if you two argue all the time and don't have a "Happy Home", then how good is that for the kid? Wouldn't it be better to have 2 separate happy homes?

The argument you described about the day off for the wedding. That sounds pretty typical of an argument about something nominal stemming from deeper underlying issues. It's not about the day, or what day someone said or whatever. It's about how you communicate and feel about each other. If the respect ain't there, it turns into a blame game instead of the two of you working together to resolve an issue.

You've said yourself that you've got other things in your life that are more important, and she just adds drama. IMHO, if you love her and care about her feelings, you'll respond empathetically and sympathetically to the things that bother her. (And if your'e like any other man, you'll try to fix it! Smile ) If you don't give a shit, you label it as 'drama' and go back to your SnG. That should tell ya somethin' right?

Sounds to me that the cards are dealt and the action is on you.



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Sounds like drama.

Here's my read. You said she was needy. We're all needy, but we often wind up with people who need different things. Life's cruel joke. There are 5 categories of need:
    Physical touch - proximity, touch, sex
    Service - cook, earn money, watch the kid
    Quality Time - let's sit and talk (no TV, no poker)
    Encouragement - "your so strong", "I love that about you", etc.
    Gifts - "I was thinking of you so I picked up this bag of m&m's" -- yes, that simple.

We usually are experts in one or two of these and suck at the others. We usually want one or two of these and give the same away to others we love. We we first start a relationship, we do all 5 to impress each other, and it lasts about 2 years, then we fall back to our favorite.

Have you been together about two to three years? Her bucket is empty, her well is dry. She's told you different ways. You're sensing it. You can pretend it is "her fault" for having a leaky bucket. Maybe your bucket is empty too. You gotta figure out which of the 5 things she's asking for and just give it two her. Once her bucket is full, tell her what you need to fill your bucket.

If you don't fill her bucket, she'll get it filled elsewhere, or you'll split. You'll spend the next 17 years paying for a kid that you don't see enough, and the 17 years after that, wishing you'd spent more time with the kid the first 17 years. Hopefully the first 17 years don't involve your lady hooking up with a pedophile. Separation and starting over may be de rigor for the 21st century, but it's a poor financial decision, a poor parenting decision, and pretty painful for everyone involved.
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 1:41am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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eeeee wrote:
Sounds like drama.

Here's my read. You said she was needy. We're all needy, but we often wind up with people who need different things. Life's cruel joke. There are 5 categories of need:
    Physical touch - proximity, touch, sex
    Service - cook, earn money, watch the kid
    Quality Time - let's sit and talk (no TV, no poker)
    Encouragement - "your so strong", "I love that about you", etc.
    Gifts - "I was thinking of you so I picked up this bag of m&m's" -- yes, that simple.

We usually are experts in one or two of these and suck at the others. We usually want one or two of these and give the same away to others we love. We we first start a relationship, we do all 5 to impress each other, and it lasts about 2 years, then we fall back to our favorite.

Have you been together about two to three years? Her bucket is empty, her well is dry. She's told you different ways. You're sensing it. You can pretend it is "her fault" for having a leaky bucket. Maybe your bucket is empty too. You gotta figure out which of the 5 things she's asking for and just give it two her. Once her bucket is full, tell her what you need to fill your bucket.

If you don't fill her bucket, she'll get it filled elsewhere, or you'll split. You'll spend the next 17 years paying for a kid that you don't see enough, and the 17 years after that, wishing you'd spent more time with the kid the first 17 years. Hopefully the first 17 years don't involve your lady hooking up with a pedophile. Separation and starting over may be de rigor for the 21st century, but it's a poor financial decision, a poor parenting decision, and pretty painful for everyone involved.


Wow what a great fucking post! I'll have to take this into consideration and rethink things now, you've blown mah mind man thanks Surprised
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 6:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm concerned for you for, man, this sounds EXACTLY like what my life was like 6 to 7 months ago. I lived with a girl for 2 years and she kept me in the relationship with the emotional tug o war style (yes they are very similar to ninjas) until one day I was informed she had cheated on me in the past. A couple of things: yes, she acted precisely as you are describing; and yes, she did constantly and irrationally accuse me of cheating when I seriously gave her no reason to believe otherwise; yes, I came to found she HAD in fact cheated on me and continued to do so at various points in our relationship. So where does this leave you? Not necessarily in the same boat with me, you had a child, we did not, and you may have other things keeping you together, I don't know. But what I do know is this: you're in an unhealthy relationship (by the sound of you and it) and it has nothing to do with being a man and trying to make things work, believe me, that's the route I went and ended up "that guy" that got cheated on. If she's in such a constant state of emotional distress/ obvious agony, it's either guilt or plain psycho-ness. (girls have plenty of that) Bottom line whether she's cheating or not, she'll NEVER come clean (my ex did not admit when confronted each and every time), and also, you're being treated unfairly, whether she's cheating or not. I'm happy now and in a real relationship, a better, fresher state of mind, and I feel more like me again, I'm not going to tell you what to do, but if it was my hand to do all over again, I'd have played a fold as early as possible and saved as many chips as I could, honesltly buddy.
P.S. your child can be taken care of just fine with separate parents, I know plenty of people with stepmoms/ stepdads. Believe me, your daughter or son will grow up to love you because of who you are: her father, whether you're with this girl or not.
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Thanks man, I mean in some aspects you are absolutely right. I can't help but to think she is at times, in the past I've had this feeling and it was pretty accurate, but this time I have no proof and it's frustrating.

But I'll have to play my hand out and see what will come of this situation
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 7:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think, by the things you mentioned in this thread...

There is no reason to believe she is cheating on you. She is probley just a "clingy" person who needs constant reassurance of your love.
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Post Posted: Fri, 31 Mar 2006, 8:06pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Sat, 01 Apr 2006, 3:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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boostNslide wrote:
jeez I feel bad for you guys. My girlfreind can be like that sometimes but it doesnt take that much effort for her to listen to reason. And then she does this cute pouting thing (only when in private.. we arent one of those sick couples taht baby talk each other in front of everyone) and then we end up cuddling, and cuddling quickly turns into raunchy sex... soo .. yah that shits cool

boostNslide wrote:
I just came to hte conclusion that she only does this so that we can have make up sex. man my gf is great...


My ex (same girl) did this shit too, but afterwards you're missing the "then accuses me of just using her for sex afterwards" part.


ouch! .. I never get that, she loves it Smile
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Post Posted: Sat, 01 Apr 2006, 4:46am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wow you guys all sound like you have pretty dysfunctional relationships or partners.
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ilikeaces86 wrote:
Wow you guys all sound like you have pretty dysfunctional relationships or partners.


so why dont u tell us how ur interracial relatonship works out?
u being the dashing black pimp and her being the white.... well, female, I guess.

the other question is
how does ur fiance deal with the rest of ur stable of video hos?
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Post Posted: Sat, 01 Apr 2006, 6:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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