calling a 2 outer

The always caller guy

At my regular home game (NL $0,5/1) there is this guy who will keep calling preflop raises with crap hands , and keep calling pot sized bets at the flop with inside str. draws and runner - runner flush draws.

Personally I dont either win or loose money to him, but believes that a player who will play anything, and call any draws could be very profitable to me.

As long as he misses his draws it's quite simple, and even if he hits it's quite simple. I've read Mike Carro and found some solid reads..

The reason why i cant make good moeny at this player is if I hit top pair and start betting to pretect my hand, and give him bad pot odds at his draws, well, sometimes he has made a set or two pair, and off course loves to slow play them. So, when he acutally floppes something good, I end up paying him off figuring him to be at his usual draw.

What is a good strategy against this type of player, besides looking for more reads.. ??

thanks

Easiest guy to beat. Just keep betting when you have a good hand. If you're certain he's drawing and you're pretty confident in your hand, then drop the hammer. Make him spend his whole stack to draw if he wants to. These type of people will surprise you by calling a $100 bet on a straight draw. Watch as it doesn't hit and you get payed most of the time.

I don't understand why you're not making money of someone like this. Obviously he's calling huge bets everytime he's drawing right? He's not hitting his draw every time. Don't you find yourself pulling down those large pots?

Are you saying when he hits a set it drains all your profit?

Now that I have become a better player I find these questions hilarious.

If he calls everything then the strategy agaisn't him is so obvious it's smacking you in the face.

Make a hand cheap, Bet it hard.

Example:

You raise AK pre flop, and he calls. The board comes rags and you miss. The usual play is to contination bet 1/3-2/3 of the pot to try to take it down. Your play agaisn't this player? JUST CHECK? Why bluff without a hand when you know he's going to call? Don't even give him the benifit of that.

Same situation, and this time you hit an A or K. Bet that $hit! Bet the pot the whole way and take his stack in one hand.

Don't bluff at bad players and calling stations.
Don't check made hands to them.
Don't Slowplay them.
Make a hand and bet it.

If you think he's drawing, then put him on a range of draws on the flop, if those draws hit, slow down and check the hand out, but usually they won't.

He sounds pretty Weak/Passive plus he's a calling station, so he will give you free cards and let you make your draws all night long. So take them, don't get in a dick slapping fest and try to muscle him around. Just make a hand and bet it. He's too stupid to figure out what you are doing.

heh, you sound like the entire homegame I go to, they are ALL super weak-tight, so I of course play bad hands as long as they pay me off when I flop something.

And I'm not always playing with 78o, I sometimes flop straights, sets, get AA, on top of all that, so it's just more profit. They are also bluffable, so there isn't really anything I can do wrong in that game, until they get better or call me more often.

You're just going to end up paying him off when he's slow-playing. He's going to be on a draw more often than he's slow-playing a monster, so this isn't a huge issue. Also, his slow-playing is going to backfire on its own accord when he allows you to outdraw him.

But yes, your strategy against him is simple. Bet your hands and let him call off his money. This type of player is your ideal opponent.

Watch as how he calls a pot-sized bet with a set on the river WITHOUT raising you which a near-nut hand. You will lose way less against this player than a player who will RAISE you, because you have the potential of losing more money.

Every time I see someone JUST CALL or even CHECK with a set on the river I think "Thank God he didn't raise, because I would have SO called that"

I mean, jeez, pick up a hand and take him out. Watch as he calls an all-in bet on the flop with nine high and an inside straight draw... because "you might have been bluffing"

Thanks for some good answers.

Most of this I already know, but I believe I've made it a habbit betting on the flop, after pre-flop raises, trying to represent a hand. I see now why this (bluff) wont work at this type of player.

Surf_thug thanks for a good post, In the example you use with AK (HIT / NOT HIT) it's prety obvious what to do.

Although, I have another problem with this player.

I'm in big blind, 97o, he's in there with any two cards, lets say J3s.

Flop comes 2 - 5 - 9 - I bet. he calls

Turn: x

Bet - call

River: J

I also ounderstand that from his point of wiev he wont make any serious bucks calling those hands, but he is to stupid to ounderstand his own missery.

I dont know how to put this, but because I am prety agressive when I'm in a pot, I feel that he ends up getting paid off when he do hit at the flop, or when hi chases a 3 outer, and hits.

I will play him later, and will not try to represent even after pre-flop raises. Hope this will work better.

To make it clare. His play has made me unsecure when betting into him, I know he will call, but has really great problems figuring out whether he has two pair, set or on the draw. Because he is passive check / call guy. He almost never bet before the river, and if I've made e good hand K with A kicker I normally believe I have the best hand.

thanks

Basically you're getting three to one on your money or better

SO bring tons of money and leave with triple or quadruple

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