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Posted: Fri, 31 Aug 2007, 3:01am Post subject: Bigspenda's Micro-Stakes Video Series
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The Greatest American Hero
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 1:19am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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OLL!
I always thought you'd have a thick Texan accent... |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 1:25am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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Good lord I hear that all the time.
I do drive a pick-up but I don't own any cowboy boots. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 6:38am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| I thought you were sitting next to Fnord on the right table first =o |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 10:09am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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If no one else wants to analyze Video 1 then I will do it myself.
There are 2 debatable spots in this video, the 99 hand and the AKo hand.
99 hand
I open UTG and UTG+1 3bets me. At $5nl this is a seemingly very strong play. I am getting just enough to set-mine against what I assume is a strong overpair (QQ+). I flop my set and the mony goes in, whatever, that's not the point.
The point for you little grinders is this: if your opponents are 3betting a wide wide range (i.e.- one that includes 8c5c) then unless they are just complete spewtards postflop you cannot profitably set-mine there. The reason being they will just not have a hand large enough to stack off with all the time. Therefore you just start spewing calling his 3bet and c/f most flops.
AK0 Hand
UTG limps, BTN limps, I raise it up out of the SB. From comes A73 two-tone. I lead for near full-pot and they both call. Here is where I stopped thinking about their hand and just 1st-leveled myself out of a couple buyins. On the turn when I fire again and they both call that tells me I need to slow down. However, at that point the pot has 200bbs in it and I have Top 2 in a raised pot. The river sucks, b/c I just know he has to have 77 there but it's likely he sucks and has A7/A8 and isn't puttng me on AK (ld0). Boom! I get stacked, I really don't think there was a way to avoid it. The pot just got so bloated b/c of the 3rd player in it. It made my turn bet much larger b/c I felt I had to protect the big pot I had build once I made top 2.
Any thoughts? Anyone out there? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 10:57am Post subject:
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Full House
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | If no one else wants to analyze Video 1 then I will do it myself.
There are 2 debatable spots in this video, the 99 hand and the AKo hand.
99 hand
I open UTG and UTG+1 3bets me. At $5nl this is a seemingly very strong play. I am getting just enough to set-mine against what I assume is a strong overpair (QQ+). I flop my set and the mony goes in, whatever, that's not the point.
The point for you little grinders is this: if your opponents are 3betting a wide wide range (i.e.- one that includes 8c5c) then unless they are just complete spewtards postflop you cannot profitably set-mine there. The reason being they will just not have a hand large enough to stack off with all the time. Therefore you just start spewing calling his 3bet and c/f most flops.
AK0 Hand
UTG limps, BTN limps, I raise it up out of the SB. From comes A73 two-tone. I lead for near full-pot and they both call. Here is where I stopped thinking about their hand and just 1st-leveled myself out of a couple buyins. On the turn when I fire again and they both call that tells me I need to slow down. However, at that point the pot has 200bbs in it and I have Top 2 in a raised pot. The river sucks, b/c I just know he has to have 77 there but it's likely he sucks and has A7/A8 and isn't puttng me on AK (ld0). Boom! I get stacked, I really don't think there was a way to avoid it. The pot just got so bloated b/c of the 3rd player in it. It made my turn bet much larger b/c I felt I had to protect the big pot I had build once I made top 2.
Any thoughts? Anyone out there? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? |
Still mainly a limit player but if your opponent 3 bets with weak hands isn't it ok to just call with your 9's then raise a lead any flop that isn't real scary depending on position? What i'm asking is do we really need to worry about set value against an opponent that will 3-bet a bunch of hands that we are already beating? |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 11:42am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| He was a player who had just played AA passively so I though he was really passive, I had no read on his 3betting range, until I saw his hand at showdown. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 12:48pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| littleogre wrote: | | if your opponent 3 bets with weak hands isn't it ok to just call with your 9's then raise a lead any flop that isn't real scary depending on position? What i'm asking is do we really need to worry about set value against an opponent that will 3-bet a bunch of hands that we are already beating? |
The problem I'm seeing with flat-calling someone that 3bet a very wide range with your 9's -- and playing them for mid-pair value -- is that you don't know where you stand. Sure, he could have 3bet with junk and you are good shape, but he could have also 3bet with a premium hand and you are way behind. Also by just flat-calling his 3bet with junk, you give him a chance to outflop you or flop a good draw. This seems to be a situation where you stand to win a small pot or loose a big pot.
* my $0.02 but I'm not good so I'm probably wrong.  |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 1:19pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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OK, it's a bit of a complex concept for the games at $5nl but we shouldn't be at these levels a long time anyways.
99 is an easy hand to play here with the read I had. I felt this player was passive and when he 3bet me I felt like he had a big hand. It didn't seem like he was on tilt at all even after getting stacked holding AA just 3-4 hands before. It's obvious now he was on tilt but we CANNOT know that at the time.
Therefore, with my reads I played absolutely fine.
HOWEVER, and this is where poker players become way way way too results oriented, my play was not correct against a light 3bettor. I've explained multiple times why it was not, so I won't go into it again. The main thing YOU should take from this is that this is how to analyze situations. Anyone notice my reaction after I won that pot? Was I thrilled or upset? You would think thrilled but you would be wrong. Most players would go "YES!!" I just won a stack. However, I took note of what he 3bet me with and realized my play was less than ideal. That's the mindset you need to have. Don't just analyze your biggest losses, analyze all your hands and determine if you are playing well across the board.
That's all for now. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 1:35pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | Anyone notice my reaction after I won that pot? Was I thrilled or upset? You would think thrilled but you would be wrong. Most players would go "YES!!" I just won a stack. However, I took note of what he 3bet me with and realized my play was less than ideal. That's the mindset you need to have. Don't just analyze your biggest losses, analyze all your hands and determine if you are playing well across the board.
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This is probably the most important lesson to take away. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Sep 2007, 1:59pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| For information's sake, how would you have played the 99 hand had your read been that the player was a light 3bettor? |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Sep 2007, 2:14am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| miracleriver wrote: | | For information's sake, how would you have played the 99 hand had your read been that the player was a light 3bettor? | Good question. It's a tough answer and shows how light 3betting can be profitable. It certainly puts me to the test. If he's a maniac I'd just shove. If he's a LAGG I'll felt almost all low flops against him. The pot will be big enough to c/shove the flop after he 3bets and cbets. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Sep 2007, 10:58pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Just wanted to say thanks for this. I liked your 50NL vids as well. Very informative (and I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Stars. I really don't understand why it gets so much micostakes traffic with sphincter-tight tables, no Rakeback, and FPP's/Bonus so hard to earn at anything under 50NL).
Just a request-- would you consider doing a 25NL video at Full Tilt? |
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Posted: Fri, 07 Sep 2007, 4:16pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Good vids, bigspenda.
Im witchu on the 99.
But I don't often play or stacks with AK on A-high flop. |
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Posted: Fri, 07 Sep 2007, 4:21pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| wheeeeeeeeeeeee, 4tbl $5 Full Ring should be up soon. |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 7:04am Post subject:
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The Greatest American Hero
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Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 12:50pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| Alright, video 2 is up and running |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 5:48pm Post subject:
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Flush
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I would like to check these out, but my connection here is too slow. The videos just freeze and buffer every 7 seconds. 
| drtofu66 wrote: | | (and I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of Stars. I really don't understand why it gets so much micostakes traffic with sphincter-tight tables, no Rakeback, and FPP's/Bonus so hard to earn at anything under 50NL). |
That sucks... I'm playing SNGs at Stars right now, was just about to switch to ring next week, then grind up to $600 to take advantage of FTs sign up Bonus.
Perhaps I should revise my plan? |
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Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 9:48am Post subject:
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The Greatest American Hero
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| grnydrowave2 wrote: | | I would like to check these out, but my connection here is too slow. The videos just freeze and buffer every 7 seconds. |
Try this:
1. Pause the player as soon as you get to the video page.
2. Let the video load for a few minutes while it is paused. You can see the load progress as the bar at the bottom of the player fills to the right.
3. Un-pause the player to resume playback.
Depending on how slow your connection is, you may want to leave it paused and loading for a while and come back to it later to watch. Don't close that video page's browser window or leave the page, however. Doing so will restart the buffering from the beginning. |
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Posted: Fri, 14 Sep 2007, 1:31am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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I watch the video but was unable to leave any comments.
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Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. |
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Posted: Fri, 14 Sep 2007, 2:53am Post subject:
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The Greatest American Hero
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| jolub wrote: | I watch the video but was unable to leave any comments.
Authorization Required
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Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. |
Try username "ftr" and password "review". |
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Posted: Thu, 20 Sep 2007, 12:54am Post subject:
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I have a couple of questions..
1. What exactly does air mean?
2. You talk about 2-barreling, I'm unsure what that means. I'm guessing you mean betting two streets with nothing? |
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Posted: Thu, 20 Sep 2007, 1:06am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| Nexter wrote: | I have a couple of questions..
1. What exactly does air mean?
2. You talk about 2-barreling, I'm unsure what that means. I'm guessing you mean betting two streets with nothing? |
Good questions
1. Air is a term used to describe a hand without any value. Say I have 78 offsuit and the board is AKJ4. I have "air" on this board, I don't have anything, just "air".
2. Betting is sometimes coined "firing" as in shooting, barrel, you can kind of piece the two together. When I two-barrel I am firing more than once at the pot, most commonly a cbet on the flop and another bet on the turn. Generally I wil two-barrel any card that could scare my opponent or anytime where I think he/she will fold if I fire another bet into the pot.
Good questions, keep 'em coming. |
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Posted: Thu, 20 Sep 2007, 2:18pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Ah, I thought 3-barreling was precisely the same as 3-betting! Thanks for the correction.
I watched video #1 but I don't have anything meaningful to say about it. So far I'm a single table micro-limit player and when I say 5/10 I mean 0.05/0.10! For now.
It's still good to hear the thought processes! |
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Posted: Mon, 24 Sep 2007, 3:17pm Post subject: Drawing conclusions
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Flush
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| I watched the second video but not the first (only because I play full rings) and I got a lot of good info about taking notes. I've never really taken notes before very much. When do you feel you can get a really good read on someone with your notes and also stats like from Poker Office. I've sat with some players for hundreds of hands and feel like I know them but I'm often weary of taking notes on players I just sat with. I feel I'll go to my notes and not really play the cards. I question it especially for hands like when I think you had QQ v KK and got stacked but based your read on an earlier hand even though you didn't really have too much info on any of these players... (even though fwiw I don't think it was played wrong, just wondering if its good to make decisions based on such a small sample of play). Thanks! More micro limit full ring table videos everyone! |
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Posted: Mon, 24 Sep 2007, 6:29pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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The reason I take notes is because as you move up in levels the player base becomes smaller and you're more likely to sit with that same player again. I could probably play $10nl FR on Stars for 2 weeks and not run into more than 2-3 of the same players.
Also, notes help me generalize what type of player someone is. It's nice to know that Player A likes to slowplay, so when he c/r's a flop you know he's bluffing. Things like that can help.
I should have another video up relatively soon. |
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Posted: Tue, 25 Sep 2007, 10:23pm Post subject:
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Straight
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Great videos and great series. I'm looking forward to the rest of them.
Question regarding micro-stake video 2. Early in the video, after playing the AQ hand, you noted that we can assume he probably likes to slowplay. Did you come to the assumption based on the way he played the hand? Can you explain why we can assume that? |
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Posted: Tue, 25 Sep 2007, 10:28pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| never mind. you answer the question a little further in the video. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 10:42pm Post subject:
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wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I should have the last 2 videos of the series up pretty soon.
The first will be a $10nl mix of 2tables FR/6max
I'm thinking about 2tabling $25nl 6max for the last video.
From reading the reviews it seems as if the videos have been helpful, which is all I was hoping for. FTR gave me so much when I started it only seems right to contribute for once  |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 11:10pm Post subject:
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 12:53am Post subject:
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Eats babies
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I should have the last 2 videos of the series up pretty soon.
The first will be a $10nl mix of 2tables FR/6max
I'm thinking about 2tabling $25nl 6max for the last video.
From reading the reviews it seems as if the videos have been helpful, which is all I was hoping for. FTR gave me so much when I started it only seems right to contribute for once | I have some great Ideas for your last video. I will contact you in Vent and we can talk. This may be too long to post here. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 12:58am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| I'll have my ppl talk to your ppl |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 9:52am Post subject:
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| kmind wrote: | | def. 2-table 25nl. | |
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High Card
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| Have to say that the video is definitely a big help. I am just now getting back into online poker, and checked out the vids to see if I could pick anything new up. I am going to start opening small PPs more. Not all over the place, but in the way that you did. Beyond being able to see and go thru the thought process of a good player I got to see that I'm on the right track. Thanks Spenda! |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Oct 2007, 1:47pm Post subject:
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Posted: Sat, 06 Oct 2007, 5:54pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Spenda, that 74s hand with the river bluff doesn't make any sense to me. You say it's a great board to take a stab at. What's so great about it?
I was with you on the flop, and perhaps even on the turn, but on the river I was ready to give up on the hand. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Oct 2007, 6:19pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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Well I basically force him to show up with the nuts to call me.
I'm expecting all 2pr hands to fold really, I mean, if you covered my cards up what would you put me on and what would you call me with. Looking back at the hand I like a river shove more than just a $4 bet. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Oct 2007, 6:26pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| grnydrowave2 wrote: | | My only critique would be that you sometimes begin to make an interesting point, but then get distracted by a hand. At the conclusion of such hands you should try to regain your train of thought |
The train of thought thing is something I've tried to work on b/c I've noticed then when i watch my videos. I'll continue to try and improve upon it. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Oct 2007, 9:54pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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yeah, pat your head and rub your tummy, too. not like your priority should be on your monies instead of a video to help.
i get the constructive criticism, but i think you do ok, all things considered. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Oct 2007, 11:07pm Post subject:
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Flush
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| I wasn't complaining, nor was I asking that he work on it for my sake. He's about to make more instructional videos for a pay site, and I'm just trying to be helpful. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Oct 2007, 11:19pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| grnydrowave2 wrote: | | I wasn't complaining, nor was I asking that he work on it for my sake. He's about to make more instructional videos for a pay site, and I'm just trying to be helpful. |
It's all good dude, it's something I need to improve upon for sure. I think each vid maybe should just have one key concept and I shouldn't really waver from that concept, i.e.-bet sizing, hand reading, cbetting, board texture, etc... |
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The Greatest American Hero
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| I think any sort of feedback/suggestion is great. It's what our regular videographers want. They want to know what their audience wants in these videos. |
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Eats babies
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I don't like the hand after 98s hand after 23 mins. We are OOP, and I don't think he is betting worse in a 4way pot very often.
Good vid though, it's the first I've watched and it was very informative! GL with the future vids for GrinderSchool! |
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Posted: Sat, 27 Oct 2007, 3:26pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 6999
WPP: 71
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| hmmmmmmmmmmmm don't remember the hand. I'm at work and don't want to run the vid, could you elaborate? |
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Posted: Sat, 27 Oct 2007, 11:09pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Posts: 3059
WPP: 65
Location: Spewing
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | | hmmmmmmmmmmmm don't remember the hand. I'm at work and don't want to run the vid, could you elaborate? |
We have 98s, villain bets pre and "cbets" the flop but he's been very tight. Board is K9x. I can't see such a tight opp cbetting this board with anything we beat so I think you have to fold the flop, i can't understand why you called. |
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Posted: Wed, 07 Nov 2007, 9:32pm Post subject:
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High Card
Joined: 17 Aug 2007
Posts: 2
WPP: 46
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | | Anyone watch this one? |
I watched them all. Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to make them. I've just recently become a winning player thanks 100% to the hours spent lurking on ftr. It's too bad I play at Bodog and can't post hand histories  , that's where the profit's been for me though. (guess I'll break down and buy dogwatch one of these days)
-Andrew |
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Posted: Wed, 07 Nov 2007, 10:23pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 6999
WPP: 71
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| badgers wrote: | | bigspenda73 wrote: | | hmmmmmmmmmmmm don't remember the hand. I'm at work and don't want to run the vid, could you elaborate? |
We have 98s, villain bets pre and "cbets" the flop but he's been very tight. Board is K9x. I can't see such a tight opp cbetting this board with anything we beat so I think you have to fold the flop, i can't understand why you called. |
probably because King Hi flops are great to cbet, I have showdown value, the pot is small, and I'd hope I'm in position if I have 89s |
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Full Tilt Poker FTOPS XIV - Event 10 $300+$22 NL Hold'em
