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Posted: Mon, 05 Jan 2009, 7:59pm Post subject: Betsizing Question
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Flush

Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 582 WPP: 76
Location: In your fridge
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Hand is obv. standard/fun.
I realized when someone mentioned to me recently that my betsizing in 3 bet pots was not good because I wasn't really thinking about the objective of the betting.
How is this?
3 bet pre is so big cuz of the 3 callers. Coulda went a little smaller on flop but guess it makes little difference here.
If I have AKd do I b/f flop smaller, same size or c/f?
Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
CO: $299.85
BTN: $121.85
SB: $100
Hero (BB): $100.65
UTG: $147
MP: $59
Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to $4, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, BTN folds, SB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $18, UTG calls $14, 3 folds
Flop: ($48) 9 3 6 (2 Players)
Hero bets $28, UTG calls $28
Turn: ($104) 4 (2 Players)
Hero bets $54.65 and is All-In, UTG calls $54.65
River: ($213.30) 9 (2 Players - 1 is All-In) |
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Posted: Mon, 05 Jan 2009, 9:38pm Post subject:
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Straight

Joined: 13 Nov 2007
Posts: 207 WPP: 130
Location: count-n mah monies stewie-style
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| wait, wat? 3bet is big? i'd raise it to 24 mininum. if 1 person is going to call 18, they won't call 24? ("any takers?" "all i need is one.") |
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Posted: Mon, 05 Jan 2009, 11:14pm Post subject:
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Flush

Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 582 WPP: 76
Location: In your fridge
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i was just pointing out the reasoning for 3 bet size, not saying its too big, small etc..
Actually that's what I am asking. |
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Posted: Tue, 06 Jan 2009, 1:44am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 891 WPP: 111
Location: Santa Cruz
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| 3 bet bigger to deny set odds, pot is pretty big so you want to bump it up higher. 24-28 is good, if one person calls other people have really good odds to call with SC's on a small raise. So go higher, if this is incoherent I'm sorry, I'm drunk. |
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Posted: Tue, 06 Jan 2009, 10:23am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 1306 WPP: 91
Location: KC, MO
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| I think 20ish is good here. You don't want to bet too big unless you never squeeze light. |
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Posted: Tue, 06 Jan 2009, 10:27am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
Posts: 3851 WPP: 79
Location: Dublin
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| vs unknowns 3betting more than 20 is overkill. flop and turn is fine |
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Posted: Tue, 06 Jan 2009, 1:20pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 2768 WPP: 90
Location: Toronto'ish
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| Da GOAT wrote: | | vs unknowns 3betting more than 20 is overkill. flop and turn is fine |
I don't entirely agree, simply because 3betting to more than 20ish looks bluffy like you're stealing.
The last thing you want is to make your 3bet too small, have UTG call you which leads to a big calling parade after him. I feel like we'd rather put anyone that wants to play in a fold or shove kind of spot.
I'm actually surprised that UTG called here AND that nobody ended up calling behind him. |
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