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Fnord
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 9:39am    Post subject: Bet this river? Reply with quote
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My table image is just terriblly LAggy. I got most of my stack when someone decided to fight back against my button aggression by going ape-shit-4-bet-all-in aggro pre-flop with T4o vs my KK.

My opponent is kinda tight, passive and super-weak. I've been putting considerable pressure on him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($74.55)
BB ($43.10)
UTG ($225.10)
Fnord ($193.85)
CO ($110.05)
Button ($94.50)

Preflop: Fnord is MP with T, A.
UTG calls $1, Fnord raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 5, 2, K (2 players)
UTG checks, Fnord bets $9, UTG calls $9.

Turn: ($29.50) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Fnord bets $20, UTG calls $20.

River: ($69.50) 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Fnord ???
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Phantaroth
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 12:13pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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With your image i think a check behind might be best here, he has to think you'll be raising the river with the 4d coming up and the way you've been playing, so his check could mean anything. He also could check a lot of things that are beating you, but he doesn't really want to play for stacks with, so I'd just check behind to keep the pot where it is and get the showdown.
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freechus9
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 5:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Bet and let him show you his Kx SOOted.
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AHiltz
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 5:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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UTG call smells of pp from this type of opp. The fact that he calls a flop and turn bet with an A and a K on the board should throw some flags. Even if he had something like TT or 99 UTG, calling down on that board would be -EV. Check behind, take notes, and attack him some more.
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gabe
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 5:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i bet for sure because i fire at the turn with a wide range
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Fnord
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 8:18pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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lol, love the mixed responses.
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Genitruc
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 8:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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my first reaction is that there isn't much value in a river bet vs a weak player here

but then i try to put villain on a hand and I can't so wtf just bet since you ve been beating on him.
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Galapogos
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 8:41pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Meh, might as well bet. I'm sure even a tight passive would have made a move on the river if he had something worthwhile. Looks like he's taking a weak-ass stand by calling you down with pocket 9s or something.
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freechus9
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 8:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Galapogos wrote:
Looks like he's taking a weak-ass stand by calling you down with pocket 9s or something.
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Alibi
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 9:47pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think he has Kx
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Renton
Post Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 11:11pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i make a weak pussy bet of 20 mostly
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aislephive
Post Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 1:29am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I like a check because these players don't tend to make too many hero calls, and stuff like AJ/AQ is in his range for sure.

With that said Aces up or AQ is a standard bet. AT is borderline and I'd bet against a lot of players, but I think a check is good here.
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gabe
Post Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 1:52am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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checking misses value, against a tight player you are losing to hardly anything and KQ looks you up enough to make it a good bet
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jackvance
Post Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 9:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Normally I think you have to bet but because of your read, check behind..
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Numbr2intheWorld
Post Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 1:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot heybude
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My first instinct is bet.
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silu73
Post Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 7:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I would bet a weak looking $30 or something like it. I am pretty sure that you are ahead here. However, said that, a regular opponent of mine takes this line often with the nuts hoping to pick up a bluff river bet OOP. But still, without reads I would bet the river.
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