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taipan168
Post Posted: Thu, 15 Oct 2009, 6:28am    Post subject: AQ in the BB on the bubble, LAGG shoves ($27) Reply with quote
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Opp's stats were something like 27/22 up to this point. I didn't have any more specific reads than this but from memory he was shoving quite a lot.

I did run this in Wiz but I won't post the results just yet. What would you do in game?

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SB (t5655)
Hero (BB) (t2695)
UTG (t2490)
Button (t2660)

Hero's M: 6.74

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A
1 fold, Button bets t2635 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero ????
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Post Posted: Thu, 15 Oct 2009, 8:58pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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from looking at his stats and knowing that he has started shoving pretty wide here it "appears" that he is aware of fold equity and is therefore a somewhat decent player so I would call here but this is at the VERY bottom of my calling range.
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Post Posted: Fri, 16 Oct 2009, 10:06am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Surely it's a fold? Both have 13BB, even if you're 60/40 or better do you really want to risk it? I'll run it in Wiz though.
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Post Posted: Fri, 16 Oct 2009, 12:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What is the prize distribution Tai? It looks like a 1-table SNG and I fold. Can you comment a bit on the stats? Since it is 4-handed, his stats must be different than they were in the beginning.
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Post Posted: Fri, 16 Oct 2009, 2:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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You are probably 60 - 40 or better and the pot odds are a bit better than 1:1, so its an easy cash game/miles from the money call, but the spanner in the works is ICM. My instinct is to call, but I would not like doing so much and I'd definitely fold AJ in this spot.
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Post Posted: Fri, 16 Oct 2009, 5:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Extremophile wrote:
What is the prize distribution Tai? It looks like a 1-table SNG and I fold. Can you comment a bit on the stats? Since it is 4-handed, his stats must be different than they were in the beginning.

Payout structure is the standard 1-table SNG 50/30/20. Can't really comment any more on the stats since I was playing 3 other tables at the time, but I do remember he had been shoving quite a bit (I can't tell you how often) since it reached 5-handed.
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Post Posted: Fri, 23 Oct 2009, 12:38pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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My thoughts are that calling is correct, since his stats indicate he's shoving with a lot of hands we dominate (Ax, KQ). Tell us what SNG Wiz said please.
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Post Posted: Fri, 23 Oct 2009, 6:16pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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cag8f wrote:
My thoughts are that calling is correct, since his stats indicate he's shoving with a lot of hands we dominate (Ax, KQ). Tell us what SNG Wiz said please.

From memory it said that calling was +EV provided that he's shoving at least 20% of hands, which I think he would be. The other relevant fact is that there wasn't a small stack around.
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Post Posted: Sat, 24 Oct 2009, 5:17am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Time for WIz. Even if SB pushes 100% hands, it is -EV to call.

More interesting is if the level of the blinds is 200/400/25.
You can call if you think that SB pushes wider than best 35% hands.
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Post Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 10:28pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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the BTN is shoving. And calling here is certainly +EV as far as i know. If he was in fact shoving any two (the btn that is) we can prob call all types of grossly wide , but putting him on ATC isn't really realistic with the limited reads provided.

It's been prob a year since i played a 9 man so im likely rusty with ICM but i for sure snap this

i think AJo/A10s is closer. Im calling for sure 88+ AJs+ AQo+
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Post Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 12:16pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I insta-fold here. Standard bubble play, right? Frankly, I probably need KK, AA to call. In real life, I would have a hard time folding QQ, AK.
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Post Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 6:15pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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RockyMoose wrote:
I insta-fold here. Standard bubble play, right? Frankly, I probably need KK, AA to call. In real life, I would have a hard time folding QQ, AK.

I don't think it's an instafold at all, it would be if there was a short stack around, so I think it's very dependent on Button's shove range.
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Post Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 7:57pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Lance wrote:
Time for WIz. Even if SB pushes 100% hands, it is -EV to call.

More interesting is if the level of the blinds is 200/400/25.
You can call if you think that SB pushes wider than best 35% hands.



Huh, i reversed stacks between SB and button..
Nevertheless, if villain has 15% pushing range, you can call here with TT+, AKo
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