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YeaURBad
Post Posted: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, 11:48am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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gabe- Just wanted to say this was a great thread. Really enjoyed reading it. Three things you said stuck out
1.) Rekruls quote
2.) You heading towards being a slight degen but its okay since your making money, having fun and are happy with your life enjoying something that you like.
3.) Preflop retardation of msnl and hsnl players from calling 3bets way to light and making bad pf calls in general (even with position).

So yeah, nice post man. One of best posts by far currently on here.


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Post Posted: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, 11:57am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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hahahaha I think Gabe should just be permanently in the well and forced to answer questions at the call of FTRers at all times.
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Post Posted: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, 12:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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YeaURBad wrote:
gabe- Just wanted to say this was a great thread. Really enjoyed reading it. Three things you said stuck out
1.) Rekruls quote
2.) You heading towards being a slight degen but its okay since your making money, having fun and are happy with your life enjoying something that you like.
3.) Preflop retardation of msnl and hsnl players from calling 3bets way to light and making bad pf calls in general (even with position).

So yeah, nice post man. One of best posts by far currently on here.

ty!
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Post Posted: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, 12:29pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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hahahaha I think Gabe should just be permanently in the well and forced to answer questions at the call of FTRers at all times.
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yea man, i think i'll just post my home phone and cell # so that way i can answer people even faster than before!
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gabe wrote:
yea man, i think i'll just post my home phone and cell # so that way i can answer people even faster than before!

Your really cool for that, thx.
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Always wondered, were you a minbet donk before switching to NL? Think I saw a thread a while back of you posting a low-stakes limit hand.
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gabe wrote:
sauce123 wrote:
hahahaha I think Gabe should just be permanently in the well and forced to answer questions at the call of FTRers at all times.
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yea man, i think i'll just post my home phone and cell # so that way i can answer people even faster than before!


No don't do that. Set up a toll-free number. I don't want to pay long distance charges.
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Post Posted: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, 2:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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bigspenda73 wrote:
Always wondered, were you a minbet donk before switching to NL? Think I saw a thread a while back of you posting a low-stakes limit hand.

yea started out limit and then switched to tourneys
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Post Posted: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, 2:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Did you set-up this thread to try and match Fnord's post count?
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Do you think you learned anything by starting at min-bet poker that helped you later in your poker career?

Or has everything you learned been from playing NL?

Apologies if this was asked already.
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Gabe- what do you think of that 44 hand we played today- I honestly cant figure out if its good or bad given history (QJ hand) and my image isnt too wild but idk...
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meh nvm just thought in detail more about what ur raising and calling ranges are on that flop and pushing is friggin terrible idk what i was thinking...
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it got me learning about poker but i dont think i learned anything specific from it that i wouldnt learn from starting at any other type
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Gabe said he didnt mind posting his cell number here so if you have a question ship it to him here.......832-758-4959
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Yea, Gabe moved to TX?

Don't forget, some of us live in that area code. Wink
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Post Posted: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, 9:41pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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bigspenda73 wrote:
Yea, Gabe moved to TX?

Don't forget, some of us live in that area code. Wink


Gabes parents live in texas and they got him his cell phone, simple.
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Post Posted: Thu, 12 Apr 2007, 10:35pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just give some dumb answer and ill be satisfied.
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Post Posted: Thu, 17 May 2007, 10:57pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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How do you high stakes players move money around post UIGEA?
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Post Posted: Fri, 18 May 2007, 12:38am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What do you think is the biggest wrong perception among low stakes players about high stakes?

How much are you bluffing pure air if ever and what scenarios?

boxers or briefs?
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Post Posted: Fri, 18 May 2007, 4:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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what are perceptions of low stakes players? i forget what it was like

i bluff pure air alot when in smallish pots. like utg raises, i call BB with 68s, HU flop is 45T with a backdoor draw, check call flop, check check blank turn, bet half pot riv -fold

also i 3 barrel when i think they will fold with pure air enough
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I find that I'm bleeding chips out of the BB in 3/6+ where alot of the btn/co stealers aren't total idiots. Can you say something smart about blind defense?
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i've got that problem too halvsame especially just calling them.

i have another question...do you study regulars in PT?
i sorta assume you do, but can you give any examples of stuff you look for? I think I need to start doing this.
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HalvSame wrote:
I find that I'm bleeding chips out of the BB in 3/6+ where alot of the btn/co stealers aren't total idiots. Can you say something smart about blind defense?
reraise alot. if you ever flat call c/r scary flops, lead at random times too, but also lead with good hands some to balance
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benny999 wrote:
i've got that problem too halvsame especially just calling them.

i have another question...do you study regulars in PT?
i sorta assume you do, but can you give any examples of stuff you look for? I think I need to start doing this.

of course, but really only if im having trouble with someone. looking at how they played in big pots is the easiest way. other things include knowing their AF numbers and how much they open raise from different spots is helpful for knowing when to reraise
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Gabe, what type of flops are you c/r'ing and with what type of hands?

Here's a common spot. The BTN opens and you call with 89s. The flop come 942. Is this a flop you c/r or a flop you like to lead?

I rarely if ever c/r. What are the benefits of c/r'ing? Would you agree that getting to see more turns b/c of the threat is one of them?
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normally id fold 89s to just a button raise

i wouldnt c/r a pair there though. also, that board isnt scary so i dont think i would c/r bluff it either. if board was like 567 two tone, thats a great board to c/r with any hand you call with (even KQ type hands). if board was 9 high with 89s i probably lead and check call 50 50
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when you started out moving up the stakes, how many tables were you able to effectively play at one time?

you said earlier
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"ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS LOG HOURS AND THINK ANALYTICALLY ABOUT EVERY HAND YOU PLAY AND IMPLEMENT YOUR FINDINGS.


how can you do this and still multi table? i know thinking analytically every time is just an ideal to try and achieve...but i was wondering if it would help my game more to play only 2 tables and reduce my hourly rate...

thanks for this sweet thread.
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Post Posted: Sat, 09 Jun 2007, 2:17am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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the analytical thinking comes AFTER you play a session. like when u are sitting around bored or right before u fall asleep is when you think about that shit.

i played 4/5 tables when i played $100nl and just moved up slowly from there. i dont remember specifics
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What would be the number one thing you would tell $100NL players to work on for making that first big jump to $200NL?

Did you use pokerstove or any other programs to help when analyzing PT at anytime, ala: Townsends video on CR, to learn about equity's?

Did you ever spend a little bit of your BR while grinding to enjoy the fruits or was it strictly targeting the next level?
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I'm just tryign out the move from sng/mtts to short handed ring, so excuse the noobishness of questions.

How do I prevent a hand like JJ from turning into air?

If I'm holding AA, should I be re-re-raising, or should I just call? What about QQ?

Limping/calling/raising with PPs - any advice?
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Can you give an example of notes and abbreviations you use when noting players to develop reads? In other words, notes specific to what actions and how you abbrv to save space? 3bet tendencies, cbet, amounts bet, etc.
Maybe a cut and pasted example of a random player.
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gabe wrote:
givememyleg wrote:
Could you explain just about everything you do? For example, if someone was sitting next to you while you were playing could you answer if they were asking "why did you do that?" to everything? I find one of my biggest problems is I do something and someone asks why and I say "man I really don't know." I imagine it gets better over time but is everything pretty much automatic?

r u a bot?

ps if this makes no sense it's cuz i havent slept in 28 hours.

sure i could answer, but some portion of the answers would be me saying "poker instinct!"


When you get back to VA after whatever summer travels you have planned, could I hang with you for a bit and pretty much do the above?
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Thoughts on HU cash? When in your poker career did you start playing HU? Is it a big part of your profit?

I play 2/4nl but started practicing HU at .5/1 and it seems like a really really high winrate is possible if you use game selection.

HU also seems to require more effort and more thinking than 6max. HU play should help handreading at 6max?
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sorry for missing these questions the first time around, i was out of town and someone just reminded me of this thread

baron_greenback wrote:
I'm just tryign out the move from sng/mtts to short handed ring, so excuse the noobishness of questions.

How do I prevent a hand like JJ from turning into air?

If I'm holding AA, should I be re-re-raising, or should I just call? What about QQ?

Limping/calling/raising with PPs - any advice?

about JJ - i play alot of air so when i get JJ its like the nuts. hard for me to give a good answer that would help you here because it doens't really fit my style of play.

you make money from bad players mostly because they call too much. reraise AA and QQ definitely.

depends on the table. if no one is raising and they call too much, limping makes alot more sense that raising.
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Silly String wrote:
Can you give an example of notes and abbreviations you use when noting players to develop reads? In other words, notes specific to what actions and how you abbrv to save space? 3bet tendencies, cbet, amounts bet, etc.
Maybe a cut and pasted example of a random player.

i try not to focus on preflop too much, but i will write general things like '3 bets light.' i try to define the player as a whole from what i know, then later ill hope what i wrote in the past was accurate enough that i can make specific assumptions close enough. this backfires sometimes obv but seems to work ok.
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JeffreyGB wrote:
gabe wrote:
givememyleg wrote:
Could you explain just about everything you do? For example, if someone was sitting next to you while you were playing could you answer if they were asking "why did you do that?" to everything? I find one of my biggest problems is I do something and someone asks why and I say "man I really don't know." I imagine it gets better over time but is everything pretty much automatic?

r u a bot?

ps if this makes no sense it's cuz i havent slept in 28 hours.

sure i could answer, but some portion of the answers would be me saying "poker instinct!"


When you get back to VA after whatever summer travels you have planned, could I hang with you for a bit and pretty much do the above?

how about you come on next ftr trip and ill bring my laptop or you bring one??
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Harry wrote:
Thoughts on HU cash? When in your poker career did you start playing HU? Is it a big part of your profit?

I play 2/4nl but started practicing HU at .5/1 and it seems like a really really high winrate is possible if you use game selection.

HU also seems to require more effort and more thinking than 6max. HU play should help handreading at 6max?

when i started really getting good at reading people my HU game increased 10 fold. i got started in it during party days when i hated joining wait lists and would start tables by myself.

if you are a 2/4 player and playing .5/1 for HU learning purposes, screw game selection. sit against some TAGs and learn how to pwn them and you will be a much better poker player.

yea it definitely helps handreading. also i cant play as many tables when i have a few HU tables mixed in because i have to focus more. if you want to play HU at low stakes im game anytime... although i have no prob taking your money (ask sauce!! zing)
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haha I'd rather play against small stakes TAGs where I can become a better player while still being +EV.
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I don't use game selection at .5/1 but what I was thinking is that once you become a decent HU player, you can probably make sick money at mid stakes+ using game selection, since you are directly against the fish in every hand, instead of 6max where you are sharing the fish with other regs.
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yea youre right, although i hate people that do that.
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The thing about playing very good HU players is the ranges get so wide that anyone who is a good hand reader at 1/2 gets completely lost on what to put someone on.
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Question:
I moved to 400nl recently and have run into some hyperaggro regs that im not use to playing at all. Clearly, im getting into situations im not familiar with and figuring out what to do in them will take some experience (Pretty much when to play back and what situations should i call down thin).

Any advice on how to handle hyperaggro threebetting ranges and general sloppiness?

i.e. I ran into a guy who was calling threebets of mine with all his sc's and suited gappers. Clearly, this is super exploitable but im not sure exactly how i can (Should i be threebetting just much tighter, should i also be threebetting low cards because he's not going to get any credit on flops with high cards, or should i threebet higher cards so i can felt any pair?)
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did you have any money stuck in neteller?
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if you dont like variance since u just moved up, just play tight

otherwise go to war....

him calling all your 3 bets with decent cards (if he has position) isnt as exploitable as you think if he plays well postflop. when u 3 bet him, overplay TPTK (like if you 3 bet from blinds with KJ, he calls, 259 flop, you bet he calls, J turn, you value push everytime). also start taking this same line with weak draws like bare overcards. make him adjust to you.
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I'm experimenting with my standard c-bet size... but does it really matter? For example, here are my current standard c-bets:

20 into 28
24 into 32
28 into 40

What kind of effect, if any, would increasing it to the follow have:

24 into 28
28 into 32
32 into 40

It may just be in my mind (i've only increased them for the last 800 hands or so) but it seems to be inducing passivity into my opponents, if that makes sense.
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think about it......

when you see people make small cbets, dont you bluff raise more? dont you bluff raise less when they make big cbets?

like if someone bets 1 into 25, thats good spot to bluff raise, and if someone bets 50 into 25 thats a bad spot. these are extreme examples but they show the psychological impact of bet sizing. so bet big when u dont want to get raised, and bet smallish when you dont mind (either you are bluffing or your hand is awesome)

sauce might be able to comment on this too...
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