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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 11:35am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Alibi wrote: | | will you see a dcu game with me this summer |
i have about 4 trips planned this summer so not sure. i know its not far away but i really dont knw. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 11:40am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| XTR1000 wrote: | how much does adjusting your thinking level to your opponents matter?
if so, how do you adjust? what are patterns/tells you look for to figure out, on which level villian thinks?
if in doubt, do you rate them as better or worse as they might be? |
-it means the world. you have to know how your opponents think. it might be OK at a particular level where everyone is terrible to assume they are all equally retarded thinkers, but you still need to know.
-have you read theory of poker? theres a section on there that describes how to play in each type of game (loose passive, loose aggressive etc). that might help.
i get reads on people by looking at every hand that goes to showdown. when im 12 tabling i might not be able to check everyone, but every big that is semi-big i look at the hands. then i see how it was played and from this i start to get an idea how they play. doing this for 450k hands makes you a good hand reader.
-if they are unknown i usually assume they are bad. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 11:43am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| drmcboy wrote: | | BIG UP TO BROOKLYN |
mad props to drmcboy |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 2:32pm Post subject:
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Two Pair
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| What VIP level are you on stars, and what do you do with all your FPP's? |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 2:34pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: GO BUCKS!
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 2:47pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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If you ever use your monies to start a technical company will you look me up?
I'll be grinding at a job |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 2:50pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| and if you ever need an architect for your balla Mansion, hit me up. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 3:09pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| irishiain wrote: | | What VIP level are you on stars, and what do you do with all your FPP's? |
im actually not even supernova yet, im gonna spend my fpps on some EPT events i think |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 5:04pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude
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-What do you expect a very good players winrate be at these levels:
.5/1
1/2
2/4
3/6
5/10
List these players in order, best to worst, in cash game play:
- Daniel Negreanu
- Mike Matusow
- Todd Brunson
- Phil Ivey
- Phil Laak
- Jenifer Harman
- Sam Farha |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 5:33pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| % bet flop after PFR (c-bet %) in hands with 4-6 players at table? |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 6:23pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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Aba said in one of his CR vids that 99% of HStakes hands are standard stuff, only 1% are the crazy shit you see.
Agreed? |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 7:13pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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How much are you up/down in the 25/50 games you play?
How big of a jump is it from 10/20? |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 7:21pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Massimo wrote: | -What do you expect a very good players winrate be at these levels:
.5/1
1/2
2/4
3/6
5/10
List these players in order, best to worst, in cash game play:
- Daniel Negreanu
- Mike Matusow
- Todd Brunson
- Phil Ivey
- Phil Laak
- Jenifer Harman
- Sam Farha |
-no idea. i think 5 is possible at all levels with good game selection though. 8 might be possible at .5/1 but i dont really know
-by cash games, do you mean NL holdem? from what i've seen matusow, harman and to a lesser extend farha seem like weak spots.
for overcall cash games its probably something like ivey, harman, negreanu, brunson, laak/farha, matusow |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 7:23pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| IowaSkinsFan wrote: | Aba said in one of his CR vids that 99% of HStakes hands are standard stuff, only 1% are the crazy shit you see.
Agreed? | yea |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 7:23pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| JJDAMAN wrote: | How much are you up/down in the 25/50 games you play?
How big of a jump is it from 10/20? |
im up about 120k in the 25/50 games. its not that big of a jump, just need the BR. 5/10 > 10/20 is tougher because theres soo many more pure fish at 5/10, but 10/20 and 25/50 probably have close to the same amount |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 7:24pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Harry wrote: | | % bet flop after PFR (c-bet %) in hands with 4-6 players at table? | is this something i pull from PokerTracker or an estimate |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 7:24pm Post subject:
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Full House
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This thread's getting me excited about online poker again. I actually jumped to my bookshelf to grab ToP.
I always considered myself a better SH than FR player, but in my latest online stint, I've been break-even SH and a slight winner at FR. I noticed my VP$iP is a bit higher SH than yours. Could it be a major leak that I'm playing anything on the button first in and calling raises with straight gap-concept in position? |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 7:55pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Putney, UK; Full Tilt,Mansion; $50 NL and PL; $13 and $16 SNGs at Stars
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| dev wrote: | | This thread's getting me excited about online poker again. I actually jumped to my bookshelf to grab ToP. |
Good move, ToP'll kill any will to live you may have temporarily felt  |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 8:17pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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the biggest winners tend to be those who don't play for the money, but play for the game.
when did you realize that money was just a by-product of a fierce game? |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 10:04pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| dev wrote: | This thread's getting me excited about online poker again. I actually jumped to my bookshelf to grab ToP.
I always considered myself a better SH than FR player, but in my latest online stint, I've been break-even SH and a slight winner at FR. I noticed my VP$iP is a bit higher SH than yours. Could it be a major leak that I'm playing anything on the button first in and calling raises with straight gap-concept in position? |
you might just be results oriented.
i dont play 'anything' on the button but i do like to play alot of hands because its easy to pick up lots of unwanted pots |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 10:04pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| |~|ypermegachi wrote: | the biggest winners tend to be those who don't play for the money, but play for the game.
when did you realize that money was just a by-product of a fierce game? |
i dont know if ive realized that yet! |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Mar 2007, 11:27pm Post subject:
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
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| biggest leak that breakeven+ midstakes cash gamers have on average? |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 12:07am Post subject:
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Full House
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| gabe wrote: | | Harry wrote: | | % bet flop after PFR (c-bet %) in hands with 4-6 players at table? | is this something i pull from PokerTracker or an estimate |
In PT General Info tab, click More Detail....
First Action on Flop After Pre-flop Raise:
Bet: x% |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 3:01am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Renton wrote: | | biggest leak that breakeven+ midstakes cash gamers have on average? | i think it used to be playing too many hands out of the blinds, now its starting to be preflop retardedness |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 3:04am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Harry wrote: | | gabe wrote: | | Harry wrote: | | % bet flop after PFR (c-bet %) in hands with 4-6 players at table? | is this something i pull from PokerTracker or an estimate |
In PT General Info tab, click More Detail....
First Action on Flop After Pre-flop Raise:
Bet: x% |
over 315k hands,
bet:59
raise:3 |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 12:10pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
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Could you explain just about everything you do? For example, if someone was sitting next to you while you were playing could you answer if they were asking "why did you do that?" to everything? I find one of my biggest problems is I do something and someone asks why and I say "man I really don't know." I imagine it gets better over time but is everything pretty much automatic?
r u a bot?
ps if this makes no sense it's cuz i havent slept in 28 hours. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 1:45pm Post subject:
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
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| gabe wrote: | | preflop retardedness |
please elaborate |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 1:48pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| givememyleg wrote: | | Could you explain just about everything you do? For example, if someone was sitting next to you while you were playing could you answer if they were asking "why did you do that?" to everything? I find one of my biggest problems is I do something and someone asks why and I say "man I really don't know." I imagine it gets better over time but is everything pretty much automatic? |
not to hijack or anything, but im in this boat too. I feel like I understand the best way to play a hand but i have a hard time explaining why its the best way. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 1:51pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| givememyleg wrote: | Could you explain just about everything you do? For example, if someone was sitting next to you while you were playing could you answer if they were asking "why did you do that?" to everything? I find one of my biggest problems is I do something and someone asks why and I say "man I really don't know." I imagine it gets better over time but is everything pretty much automatic?
r u a bot?
ps if this makes no sense it's cuz i havent slept in 28 hours. |
sure i could answer, but some portion of the answers would be me saying "poker instinct!" |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 1:53pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Renton wrote: | | gabe wrote: | | preflop retardedness |
please elaborate |
people see higher stakes game and everyone reraising light and try to emulate it. they don't know what they are doing or why they're doing it and ended up spewing too much.
also included is people never folding to 3bets and then not know what to do postflop |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 2:31pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
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| gabe wrote: | | they don't know what they are doing or why they're doing it and ended up spewing too much. |
I think that is what I was trying to say in my last post. Sometimes I do things and after I think wtf why did I even do that?? |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 2:35pm Post subject:
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Straight
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WOW, i just read every entry in this post and i must say - "They're Great"
My question is this: "Poker Instinct" - i am starting to believe imho, this is the very key to making the best poker player you can be. There have been many times where i just get that feeling/instinct i know villain is pulling a move or i can clearly see they are weak, but end up folding to their aggressive bets, with the vast majority of showdowns seen i was correct to go with that instinct! I am starting to get myself to go with this instinct even if it means i could be making a play myself solely on pure ballz with my read/instinct!
The real question is when i get into these situations where my instincts "kick in" is it better to make a hefty re-raise or just push? what would be more beneficial/powerful (+EV) for me to do and why?
And if you choose to answer Thank you! |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 2:40pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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very nice thread, i think people took my other post in this thread way too seriously.
I was actually talking to gabe at the time and (I believe?) we had just got done slumming it at 1/2 hu over like 6 tables. He was berating me for calling his shove with mid pair when he b3b allin a bare flush draw (he had 12 twice and flush hit on river), so I figured I'd shoot back some love. I think I had a few drinks in me too, holla
gabe,
who do you think are the top 5 players at 5/10 on stars, and what makes them difficult to play against? Top player(s) at any stakes? |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 4:11pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| seoul_child1 wrote: | The real question is when i get into these situations where my instincts "kick in" is it better to make a hefty re-raise or just push? what would be more beneficial/powerful (+EV) for me to do and why?
And if you choose to answer Thank you! |
theres a ton of factors this depends on. in general, if you are doing it against someone you play with alot you want to do whatever you do with a strong hand in the same situation so you are tougher to read.
but i like i said, there are many factors that go in to this |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 4:13pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Lukie wrote: | gabe,
who do you think are the top 5 players at 5/10 on stars, and what makes them difficult to play against? Top player(s) at any stakes? |
i guess your question implies the top players the ones difficult to play with??
i dont think any of them are difficult to play against. cts and purpleuros are good but they dont play as much as most. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Mar 2007, 10:33pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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ok let me rephrase that, say you sit down at a table, what is the Absolute worst 6-max table you could fathom playing in at 5/10? ignore players like cts who usually play much higher.
do you think you would have an edge in this game? |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 2:44pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| You should start a poker clinic on vent |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 3:28pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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Gabe HU questions:
1. How do you adjust to a player who doesn't adjust to your aggression?
2. tips for owning HU? |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 3:37pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| GABE, how do I change # of posts per page. ty |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 7:39pm Post subject:
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Flush
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favorite drink?
also do you like cream soda and/or root beer |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 8:17pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| gabe is playing oblivion, he will be back to answer your questions shortly. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 8:34pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| Lukie wrote: | | gabe is playing oblivion, he will be back to answer your questions shortly. |
what a nerd!
that is my question. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 9:39pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| IowaSkinsFan wrote: | Gabe HU questions:
1. How do you adjust to a player who doesn't adjust to your aggression?
2. tips for owning HU? |
-if someone doesnt adjust to me, why would i need to adjust?
-dont play much out of position. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 9:39pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Harry wrote: | | GABE, how do I change # of posts per page. ty |
no idea srry harry |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 9:40pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS
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| Alibi wrote: | favorite drink?
also do you like cream soda and/or root beer |
cold newcastle
root beer ez |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 10:05pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| Most ballinest person you've met other than yourself and Lee Jones. |
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EAT BUGS
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| cts from 2p2, great poker player thats my age and has a 14k rolex |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 10:30pm Post subject:
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Flush
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| You make all this money from poker. Yet you live in a trash can, why? |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 11:03pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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| One thing you'd change about the PS interface. |
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Posted: Sat, 31 Mar 2007, 11:14pm Post subject:
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HABITUAL LINE-STEPPER
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| IowaSkinsFan wrote: | | One thing you'd change about the PS interface. |
i'll answer this in his stead
FUCKING RELOAD BUTTON OH MY FUCKING GOD |
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