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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 12:47pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 3307 WPP: 87
Location: Toronto'ish
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| Alexos wrote: | Hey guys, I'm gonna revive this thread for at least a bit. Been on a mini downswing lately and what usually happens is I stop playing poker for a while. Butttt, I wanna get in 30k more hands until the end of the month so I'll start a small operating and update DAILY! Maybe put in some hands too.
BTW it's all gonna be at 2/4
Here we gogogoo!!! |
The death of InterPoker has resulted in a 2/4 partyyyy
gooood luck |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 1:04pm Post subject:
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Flush

Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 425 WPP: 68
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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gl, make moniezzz  |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 2:47pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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Something went wrong.. just played my first sesh and HEM says i shipped 2k... then I checked my account and im up 4k... hmmmm
I heard stories of money dissapearing then reappearing a cpl days later on Ongame, so i guess my mini-downswing wasnt that big:P
Or maybe i won 4k... HEM always messes up my hands
wat |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 3:00pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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1150/30,000, 4k profit
Bunch of stacks seem to be missing so 4k makes sense.. |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 5:47pm Post subject:
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Flush

Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 425 WPP: 68
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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| update HEM to beta version 1.08 or something (latest beta). I had the same thing. Could import them with new version manually |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 6:29pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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| BigPapi wrote: | | update HEM to beta version 1.08 or something (latest beta). I had the same thing. Could import them with new version manually |
always have to do it manually???
thx ill check it out |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 6:32pm Post subject:
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Flush

Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 425 WPP: 68
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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| nah not always, but the hands it missed up to now. when you have the new version it will import fine again in new sessions (just import the older ones manually) |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 6:44pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Posts: 1779 WPP: 141
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move up. oh btw, did your msn get hacked? [wish i could call/text]
i got sent some random links to pictures from you and when i clicked them it asked me to login with my msn info which makes no sense, so i didnt do it |
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Posted: Fri, 17 Apr 2009, 8:07pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5683 WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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Yeah, thats some kind of virus or something, I got the same from a workmate's msn when he was offline.
Yey Alexos, surprise monies!!! |
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Posted: Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 1:49am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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| yeah def got some kind of virus... i got the same link from my friend, clicked on it, then i got the virus.. i suggest everyone run their virus scan |
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Posted: Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 2:03am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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| BigPapi wrote: | | nah not always, but the hands it missed up to now. when you have the new version it will import fine again in new sessions (just import the older ones manually) |
thanks ill try that tomorrow... also this might have something to do with it :
http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=148 |
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Posted: Sat, 18 Apr 2009, 4:11pm Post subject:
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Flush

Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 425 WPP: 68
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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| possibly yeah, anyway if it doesnt work their support is pretty good, so just drop them an email and they'll help you till it works again. |
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Posted: Tue, 21 Apr 2009, 12:15am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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Hands : 4015/30,000
+4045$
I'm not playing very well. I'm still not used to 5max and the overall aggressiveness involved. I think I'm used to run over people and double/triple barrel so much, but its not working here, people will call you down with ANY pair. Time to adjust. I should probably play 18/16 or something, I would totally destroy the games just by having tighter ranges in 3bet/4bet pots. Its very hard for me to tighten up though, it would involve folding suited hands and stuff (gah!) . I should probably drop the tables to <8 to help focus.
Berate me on this one : (Although I feel its pretty close )
1) $2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
CO ($780.20)
BTN ($942.20)
Hero (SB) ($398.50)
BB ($400.00)
Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB
CO raises to $14, BTN calls $14, los calls $14, Hero calls $12, BB raises to $84, CO folds, BTN calls $70, los calls $70, Hero raises to $398.50, BB calls $314.50, BTN folds, los folds
Flop: ($979, 2 players)
Turn: ($979, 2 players)
River: ($979, 2 players)
[Results Hidden]
And this one:
2) No history whatsoever vs villain. He seems a little more on the passive side but no symptoms of "broken fold button", which is a very contagious disease on this site.
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($357.00)
CO ($420.00)
BTN ($1066.90)
Hero (SB) ($378.00)
BB ($418.00)
Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB
1 fold, CO raises to $13, 1 fold, Hero calls $11, 1 fold
Flop: ($30, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20
Turn: ($70, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $35, Hero raises to $105, CO calls $70
River: ($280, 2 players)
Hero bets $240, CO calls $240
[Results Hidden]
Running very well though but hopefully I play better when variance turns around. Peace.[/b] |
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Posted: Wed, 22 Apr 2009, 6:23pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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Update..
Hands: 9,666/30,000
+6500$
Played some disgusting sessions, where I would start up 5 buyins then get coolered and tilt like 1-2 buyins at the end of the session, and finally end down (obv). I then decided to play 19/16 12 tabling and see how it goes, and what a relief. It feels so good to actually have premium hands and not always air all the time
20k more hands in 8 days seems do-able... |
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Posted: Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 1:50pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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30k hands at 2/4 operation:
14,000/30,000 hands
~+$12k
Just had a ridiculous +11 buyins session in 1k hands and 60 minutes.. think i stacked like 7 ppl in 5min at some point.. it felt good to run like the sun once again.. I'm playing a lot saner than before, and just straight up never bluffing the non-believers and its paying off.
I'm not putting enough hands in, the weather is incredible right now in Montreal which makes it very hard/not worthwhile to grind. Hopefully I can manage like 5k hands/day next week but its not very likely.. happiness EV ftw.. |
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Posted: Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 5:07pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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| Alexos wrote: | Hands : 4015/30,000
+4045$
I'm not playing very well. I'm still not used to 5max and the overall aggressiveness involved. I think I'm used to run over people and double/triple barrel so much, but its not working here, people will call you down with ANY pair. Time to adjust. I should probably play 18/16 or something, I would totally destroy the games just by having tighter ranges in 3bet/4bet pots. Its very hard for me to tighten up though, it would involve folding suited hands and stuff (gah!) . I should probably drop the tables to <8 to help focus.
Berate me on this one : (Although I feel its pretty close )
1) $2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
CO ($780.20)
BTN ($942.20)
Hero (SB) ($398.50)
BB ($400.00)
Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB
CO raises to $14, BTN calls $14, los calls $14, Hero calls $12, BB raises to $84, CO folds, BTN calls $70, los calls $70, Hero raises to $398.50, BB calls $314.50, BTN folds, los folds
Flop: ($979, 2 players)
Turn: ($979, 2 players)
River: ($979, 2 players)
[Results Hidden]
[/b] |
i never do this... i can kinda see your reasoning. i immediately thought this is terrible but it could be ok. |
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Posted: Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 6:03pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5683 WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| Hey, nice to see you adjusting and winning again. Pretty impressive that you can switch up well like this. |
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Posted: Sat, 25 Apr 2009, 6:11pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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Yeah it kinda seems like spew, but we're repping a super strong range and we're about 30% against a calling range, assuming we get only one caller.
Im too lazy to run the EV of this, but i think its close to 0ev maybe even slightly positive and good for meta
edit: actually its pretty bad.. we do have 30% against a calling range, but we def do NOT rep a strong range lol |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Jul 2009, 11:47pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Posts: 719 WPP: 122
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any updates since april?
how did the whole Crypto -> Ongame switch go, how are the players and how has the rise from 2/4 gone? |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 2:30am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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I heard he's busto  |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 9:46am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
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Location: Toronto'ish
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| kmind wrote: | I heard he's busto | ]
lol riiiight...not sure that will ever be possible |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 11:21am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Location: Not Giving In
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| That was my lame attempt to be funny/force him to clear it up = make him post more! |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 11:45am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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| kmind wrote: | I heard he's busto |
confirmed |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 12:29pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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Ongame was going well, but they had changed softwares a few weeks ago, and that totally turned me off. I'll wait till they fix it before I return.
Meanwhile, I've switched to Stars mostly for 3/6-10/20 and this is my July up to now, running goood!
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Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 1:03pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 28 Dec 2004
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very nice graph!!
btw are you still on msn? |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 1:42pm Post subject:
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2009

Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 1656 WPP: 64
Location: bluffing scare cards
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| Oh man why would you doomswitch yourself like that. You know they look for people posting graph's like that just to doomswitch them. |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Jul 2009, 5:18pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| meeloche wrote: | | Oh man why would you doomswitch yourself like that. You know they look for people posting graph's like that just to doomswitch them. |
nah this is well thought out
its not a brag post or anything (esp judging by the EV line) I was just asked to give an update so here it is . I'm sure the poker gods are on the same level.
plz
EDIT: fail, session after i posted this was in the negative |
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Posted: Sun, 12 Jul 2009, 12:15pm Post subject:
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LIVEBOON

Joined: 02 Mar 2004
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| Is the girl in your picture the same as griffeys? Do you know her name? Pretty hot. |
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Posted: Sun, 12 Jul 2009, 12:35pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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| Yes she is. Ria Antoniou, some greek supermodel |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 1:15am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1915 WPP: 60
Location: Montreal
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Suppp people,
After starting the month on an absolutely sick heater on stars, things have settled down and I even ended the month on a 20k downswing (not even 20BI though so not too bad). I feel like the regs are adjusting to me infinitely better than on past sites. They are also somewhat nittier on average which is annoying to deal with for me. These aren't really valid excuses, but I just don;t think 5ptbb is achievable for me at 5/10 PS, and having losing sesssions fkin tilt me, I'm just not used to them and it the result of that is bad play usually due to a lack of confidence. /whine
Sooo, idk what to do. I'll prolly just have to settle for a smaller winrate and work on my game a tonnnnnn. This is a fun challenge and I'll get to it right after i come back from vacation on the 19th.
I was looking at my old DB to cheer me up, these r all the hands on Crypto from July 08 to April 09. About half is in pounds, and mostly 2/5. I fkin miss Crypto. Hopefully I havn't posted this before lol.
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Posted: Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 2:06am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

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Lol, I'd miss that too  |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 4:16am Post subject:
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Flush

Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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I don't think you can ever look enough at that graph shit, if that was mine I'd probably have it on my desktop wallpaper  |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 7:19pm Post subject:
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Full House

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the thing i'm most jealous about by far is the redline. that's just sick. so few players are good enough to have a breakeven redline.
awesome.
GL in the coming months @ stars. you prefer it over iPoker/ongame/other sites? |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Aug 2009, 7:42pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037 WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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| Ehhh I'm soooooooooo much more jealous of the dark green line. The red line is probably my least favorite line nowadays. Ily alexos! |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 1:29am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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Location: Montreal
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| bspahn wrote: | the thing i'm most jealous about by far is the redline. that's just sick. so few players are good enough to have a breakeven redline.
awesome.
GL in the coming months @ stars. you prefer it over iPoker/ongame/other sites? |
Tough to say. Having played FTP/Party/Stars/Ongame recently I feel like stars and Ongame are the best sites. Stars is prolly the best of them all if u combine RSA security token/fishyness/software/customer support.
Everyone has different priorities though so it depends. |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 1:32am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| kmind wrote: | | Ehhh I'm soooooooooo much more jealous of the dark green line. The red line is probably my least favorite line nowadays. Ily alexos! |
red line is def overvalued. Butttt, people with redlines going straight down are definitly doing something wrong, or could be doing stuff a lot better, whichever way u wanna put it.
You can tell a lot about someones game just by seeing their red line.
Dark green line is what matters in the end. All this ptbb dick waving contest and redline bigger than urs contest is all fluff. |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 1:34am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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Location: Montreal
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| BigPapi wrote: | I don't think you can ever look enough at that graph shit, if that was mine I'd probably have it on my desktop wallpaper |
You can use it as your wallpaper if you want  |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 2:15am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Location: Not Giving In
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 6:03am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 2327 WPP: 97
Location: Viva la Puteria! / Nar Shaddaa Red Sector obv.
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 8:16am Post subject:
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Flush

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haha, I might give it a try, perhaps it works motivational
happy b-day man
btw. it's been a while but perhaps we can schedule a session somewhere after your vacation or something? |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 8:52am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| Man that is just the sickest fucking thing. Awesome Alexos. |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 10:20am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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[quote="Alexos"] | kmind wrote: | | All this ..... redline bigger than urs contest is all fluff. |
damnnn.. this was what I was holding onto!
awesome graph, as always! |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 10:48am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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Location: Montreal
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| BigPapi wrote: | haha, I might give it a try, perhaps it works motivational
happy b-day man
btw. it's been a while but perhaps we can schedule a session somewhere after your vacation or something? |
I guess I wouldn't mind doing a sesh here and there. Hit me up on msn.
And thanks guys.. |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 11:07am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 02 Mar 2006
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Posted: Tue, 04 Aug 2009, 11:33am Post subject:
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Full House

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happy bday alexos
almost the same as mine !! (this thu) |
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Posted: Wed, 05 Aug 2009, 9:14am Post subject:
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Flush

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| Alexos wrote: | red line is def overvalued. Butttt, people with redlines going straight down are definitly doing something wrong, or could be doing stuff a lot better, whichever way u wanna put it.
You can tell a lot about someones game just by seeing their red line. |
So if I told you that I have about 120K hands lifetime (still a noob obv), and for the first 60K my redline was breakeven, but for the last 60K it has gone steadily downhill to the tune of well over 30BI, what would that tell you about my game?
I can also tell you that the downward trajectory started right about the time I moved up from 25NL to 50NL, and 50NL has not been a happy experience for me so far.
(Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your op, but I'm really interested in this.)
EDIT: happy b'day! |
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Posted: Wed, 05 Aug 2009, 11:23am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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Tony- I was gonna write a long post, but there are so many things that I'm not sure what applies to you specifically.
But in general ppl with huge red lines compared to their blue lines tend to be spewy and stationny (not folding before showdown can't affect your red line).
And ppl with red lines going 45degrees in the negative are probably weak and do dumb stuff like putting 1/3 of their stack in then folding too much. Or chasing a lot then folding when missing. Or just general leaks in 3bet/4bet pots..
There can be many factors, and I already said the red line is overvalued so why are we talking about it ? |
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Posted: Wed, 05 Aug 2009, 11:39am Post subject:
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Eats babies

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| I have mentioned before that the redline is a result of your play, You can't change your play just to effect the redline. It's very easy to make the redline even or run up, but if it's not a natural part of your play you will spew a ton of chips |
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Posted: Wed, 05 Aug 2009, 1:15pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
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Location: Toronto'ish
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| Alexos wrote: |
But in general ppl with huge red lines compared to their blue lines tend to be spewy and stationny (not folding before showdown can't affect your red line). |
I always feel like you're dissin' me  |
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Posted: Wed, 05 Aug 2009, 5:10pm Post subject:
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Flush

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| Alexos wrote: | And ppl with red lines going 45degrees in the negative are probably weak and do dumb stuff like putting 1/3 of their stack in then folding too much. Or chasing a lot then folding when missing. Or just general leaks in 3bet/4bet pots..
There can be many factors, and I already said the red line is overvalued so why are we talking about it ? |
Interesting.
I never took any notice of my red line, so maybe I've been undervaluing it??
Anyway, I'm not going to read too much into it, but the "dumb stuff" you mentioned are all things I tend to lapse into, especially when I'm tired, tilting or otherwise off my A-game. Sometimes I find myself folding the river after missing a draw with a lot of my chips in the middle, and that usually means its time to go and do something else for a while.
I also think I've loosened up preflop over time, quicker than my postflop skills have developed to handle it, which leaves me in too many bad spots on later streets. Time to stop opening AJo UTG ...
Thanks man. Oh, and happy b'day!! |
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