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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 7:15am Post subject: AK first hand, flopped ace, opp raises me on turn
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Straight

Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Posts: 137 WPP: 84
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Wasn't sure what to do here. Is it likely he called PF with 44, 66, A4s, or A6s?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 6+0.50 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (MP2) (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1500)
Hero's M: 33.33
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K , A
3 folds, Hero bets t90, MP3 calls t90, 4 folds
Flop: (t225) 4 , 6 , A (2 players)
Hero bets t150, MP3 calls t150
Turn: (t525) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t300, MP3 raises to t780, Hero folds
Total pot: t1125 |
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Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 7:48am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9431 WPP: 127
Location: Sydney
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Dude, never fold here without a REALLY good read (like opp is a winning multitabler with whom you have a thousand or more hands and a solid read that he'd never have anything that didn't beat TPTK here).
I fist pump shove over against an unknown - he could have all sorts of hands that you beat (think Ax, pocket pairs 77-KK, flush draws, 7x, 3x, the list goes on). |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 12:09am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3023 WPP: 73
Location: Mr. Jones and me
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| I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 12:28am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind

Joined: 27 Feb 2009
Posts: 76 WPP: 39
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| kmind wrote: | | I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn |
you are definately confusing a standard $6 turbo player with someone that actually thinks about poker |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 1:22am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9431 WPP: 127
Location: Sydney
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| kmind wrote: | | I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn |
When I used to play the $6.50s (which admittedly is some time ago) you'd see players pull this move with all kinds of non-two pair Ax hands, pocket pairs and other weird hands that we beat trying to be all tricky on the turn. |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 1:35am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3023 WPP: 73
Location: Mr. Jones and me
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| You obv. can't fold then but man even the worst of the donks in cash games don't do this without two-pair plus. EZ game imo. |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 11:21pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1772 WPP: 67
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| If effective stacks were 100 BBs you could think about a fold. |
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Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 2:29am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 4621 WPP: 65
Location: Stars $16 and $27 Sngs
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Dont fold in this spot.
It is possible that he had 55 or A5 and the 5 helped him in any way, but he could do it also with tons of hands that you beat |
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