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pokernewb
Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 7:15am    Post subject: AK first hand, flopped ace, opp raises me on turn Reply with quote
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Wasn't sure what to do here. Is it likely he called PF with 44, 66, A4s, or A6s?

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saw flop

SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (MP2) (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1500)

Hero's M: 33.33

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, A
3 folds, Hero bets t90, MP3 calls t90, 4 folds

Flop: (t225) 4, 6, A (2 players)
Hero bets t150, MP3 calls t150

Turn: (t525) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t300, MP3 raises to t780, Hero folds

Total pot: t1125
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taipan168
Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 7:48am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Dude, never fold here without a REALLY good read (like opp is a winning multitabler with whom you have a thousand or more hands and a solid read that he'd never have anything that didn't beat TPTK here).

I fist pump shove over against an unknown - he could have all sorts of hands that you beat (think Ax, pocket pairs 77-KK, flush draws, 7x, 3x, the list goes on).
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kmind
Post Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 12:09am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn
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lNormajean
Post Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 12:28am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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kmind wrote:
I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn


you are definately confusing a standard $6 turbo player with someone that actually thinks about poker
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taipan168
Post Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 1:22am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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kmind wrote:
I'm confused. Seems like we are beat here to me. The range you (taipan) list seems very unlikely he'd ever raise the turn as played. Maybe these players are really ridiculous but I'm b/f the turn

When I used to play the $6.50s (which admittedly is some time ago) you'd see players pull this move with all kinds of non-two pair Ax hands, pocket pairs and other weird hands that we beat trying to be all tricky on the turn.
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kmind
Post Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 1:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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You obv. can't fold then but man even the worst of the donks in cash games don't do this without two-pair plus. EZ game imo.
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baudib
Post Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 11:21pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If effective stacks were 100 BBs you could think about a fold.
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TLR
Post Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 2:29am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Dont fold in this spot.
It is possible that he had 55 or A5 and the 5 helped him in any way, but he could do it also with tons of hands that you beat
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