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Posted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004, 6:07am Post subject: AA - call, fold, or raise?
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Earlier tonight I had a hand that I'm totally not sure I played right: I was in late position with AhAc. Someone else raised preflop and I reraised to 4xBB. The raiser and one other player called. The flop came QsQd9s. Caller raised min and raiser reraised to 4xBB. What should my play here have been? I put one of the two of them on a Q.
Will post actual results after a few responses.
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Posted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004, 6:13am Post subject: Re: AA - call, fold, or raise?
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| JeffreyGB wrote: | | What should my play here have been? |
I would have reraised to see when I was in the hand. Would have reraised enough so that if someone reraised AI I would be able to let go of my hand if I believed he had the Queen. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004, 10:02am Post subject:
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What were your reads on the players?
Stack sizes?
For now, I probably would have re-raised to feel out for trips and try to push out any flush draw. To that end, any pushback or over the top raises, I would be prepared to let this go. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004, 1:40pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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Raise it again to 7BB. If the first player will make a Q very transparent with anything but a fold. The second player may flat call with JJ or KK and push with the queen. If he does just flat call to slowplay the queen, check behind him on the turn and fold to a river bet unimproved.
-'rilla |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004, 2:05pm Post subject:
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| Yeldud wrote: | What were your reads on the players?
Stack sizes? |
I was pretty confident that at least one of them had a Q. Our stak sizes were all basically equal as well - within a couple BB of each other (I think I was at the lead).
As it turned out:I folded, and they both ended up going all in. The first player had a queen and a blank. The second player had pocket 9s. The turn came: Ad. Which I know was a long shot, but definitely made me wonder if I did the right thing...I'm assuming that if I was confident in my read of one of them having the queen (the first guy was very passive before this - I don't remember him ever raising on the flop when someone else raised preflop), I made the right call and just had bad timing for amazing luck. River was As. |
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Posted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004, 10:51pm Post subject:
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| well if he showed you his hand, and you saw the queen, would you still call? |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Jan 2005, 10:25am Post subject:
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| You did the right thing, just so happens that one of your two outs landed on the river after the fold. Right move followed by bad luck (or as I call it, "fate mocking you"). Don't think about it any further. I know it's hard on a hand like this, but when I know I've made the right move I try not to pay any attention to the cards that come out afterward. It can make you second-guess yourself, and pull moves later that you shouldn't. |
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Posted: Mon, 03 Jan 2005, 9:07pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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I think the raiser had 9-9...
The otherone might have had a Q-10 or something...
When the 9-9 hand knew you both had big hands, and one of you probably even a Q his hand were invisible, so he raised... |
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Posted: Tue, 04 Jan 2005, 2:34am Post subject:
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| dalecooper wrote: | | You did the right thing, just so happens that one of your two outs landed on the river after the fold. Right move followed by bad luck (or as I call it, "fate mocking you"). Don't think about it any further. I know it's hard on a hand like this, but when I know I've made the right move I try not to pay any attention to the cards that come out afterward. It can make you second-guess yourself, and pull moves later that you shouldn't. |
Actually both of my two outs came - first on the turn and then on the river - but yeah, I thought I made the right call. Thanks for putting fate in it's place  |
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