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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 9:03am Post subject: 5NL : str8 vs river shove on 3 flush board
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Full House
Joined: 29 Nov 2008
Posts: 778
WPP: 200
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fourth hand against this villain and he was 50/50 after this hand having posted in the CO.
With his min reraise Pre , I put him probably on high pocket pair or maybe AK. Flop was nice and turn was yummy for me. Was planning to check raise him on the turn as I thought he may have folded his overpairs/overcards if I had bet at that turn board, but he checked it back. River was yuck as flush draws came in , but with the range i gave him only AK of hearts had me beat.I was hoping that he'd check it down , but when he shoved it felt like maybe AA,KK or missed straight draw trying to steal the pot. How does the range sound and would you have called?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (UTG) ($12.69)
UTG+1 ($10)
MP1 ($9.19)
MP2 ($3.10)
CO ($2.65)
Button ($11.13)
SB ($22.05)
BB ($2.15)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 , 9
1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, UTG+1 raises to $0.80, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.75) 8, 7, 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20
Turn: ($4.15) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks
River: ($4.15) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $8 (All-In), Hero ??? |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 10:22am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
Posts: 75
WPP: 69
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I prefer to bet the turn to get the money in rather letting AhKh have a free card. On the river we need to be winning 40% of the time to break-even, so probably a call.
What do you think of betting or check raising the flop? |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 7:31pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Nov 2008
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| HoopyDude wrote: | I prefer to bet the turn to get the money in rather letting AhKh have a free card.
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Trouble with that is that you are just aiming at one hand in his range. Once the straight potentially completes he isn't gonna be happy with putting money in with his overpairs.
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On the river we need to be winning 40% of the time to break-even, so probably a call.
What do you think of betting or check raising the flop? |
He's reraised me pre. if hes on AA KK QQ JJ and I bet/check raise the flop he's probably going to be raising it up again and i'll have between 7 and 12 outs/ At best I'll be flipping or I could be a big underdog. With only 4 hands on the guy very litttle experience of him and his tendencies. so I opted to control the size of the pot till i hit. |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 9:18pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 3534
WPP: 101
Location: The Grind
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| We need to be betting the turn, otherwise we make it really easy on him to play his entire range pretty much perfectly. |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 9:30pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5680
WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| Yes to what Spoon said. He has a lot in his range that will have trouble folding even on a 4-straight board. |
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Posted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009, 4:49pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 26 Feb 2009
Posts: 796
WPP: 132
Location: Slowrollin' in the $0.10 DONs 'cause that's what all the cool people on TV do
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| spoonitnow wrote: | | We need to be betting the turn, otherwise we make it really easy on him to play his entire range pretty much perfectly. |
This all the way. The thing is with bad stationy villains is that they'll get stubborn with they're decent hands (AT, any set, any FD, any two pair, JJ+) on scare cards and just begrudgingly call as often as you bet, but when they're like "oh no's, i don't have the nuts anymore" they become much more wary about value betting. so if you want JJ's stack, then just bet, bet, bet, bet.
your line only maximizes value against like a completely whiffed AcQc or something in the case that one of his six dirty outs hit on the river.
the river sucks, lol |
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Posted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009, 5:34pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Nov 2008
Posts: 778
WPP: 200
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| surviva316 wrote: |
your line only maximizes value against like a completely whiffed AcQc or something in the case that one of his six dirty outs hit on the river.
the river sucks, lol |
wow so close
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (UTG) ($12.69)
UTG+1 ($10)
MP1 ($9.19)
MP2 ($3.10)
CO ($2.65)
Button ($11.13)
SB ($22.05)
BB ($2.15)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, 9
1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, UTG+1 raises to $0.80, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.75) 8, 7, 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20
Turn: ($4.15) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks
River: ($4.15) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $8 (All-In), Hero calls $8
Total pot: $20.15 | Rake: $1.34
Results:
Hero had 9, 9 (straight, ten high).
UTG+1 had A, Q (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $18.81 |
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