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Posted: Wed, 31 Dec 2008, 11:37am Post subject: 55 vs. minbet on K high flop
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Straight
Joined: 20 Jul 2008
Posts: 166
WPP: 210
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Was this a bad place to put my chips? With his donk bet I knew he was weak (unless he was slow playing). I was putting him on unimproved AX. Would a stronger bet have been more effective, or should i have just saved the chips for a better spot?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00+$0.40 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (Button) (t2725)
SB (t3215)
BB (t3235)
UTG (t4325)
Hero's M: 9.08
Preflop: Hero is Button with  , 
UTG raises to t400, Hero calls t400, 2 folds
Flop: (t1100)  ,  ,  (2 players)
UTG bets t200, Hero raises to t600, UTG calls t400
Turn: (t2300)  (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
River: (t2300)  (2 players)
UTG bets t800, Hero folds
Total pot: t2300
Results:
UTG had A , 10 (one pair, tens).
Outcome: UTG won t2300 |
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Posted: Wed, 31 Dec 2008, 11:56am Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
Posts: 21
WPP: 319
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| What donk bet? He was the PFR and he CBet the flop. It was an incredibly weak CBet, which at this stake, completely reveals his hand so the flop raise is alright. From my experiences, players like this probably wouldn't fold to a shove on the flop with their Ace-high/Gutshot |
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Posted: Wed, 31 Dec 2008, 7:32pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 9487
WPP: 127
Location: Sydney
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Fold preflop - you don't have implied odds to call the raise and play for set value (in fact, you don't even really have express odds).
As played, considering your stack size, I probably just call the donkminbet and try to get to showdown as cheap as possible (unless of course we hit a 5 on the turn or river). |
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Posted: Wed, 31 Dec 2008, 8:04pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1829
WPP: 67
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| ya fold preflop. If it folded to you I'd push but you can never burn off this much of your stack with 55 with two people left to act. Doing it on the bubble is really awful. |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 6:00am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 4638
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Location: Stars $16 and $27 Sngs
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| It is a raise/fold situation preflop IMO |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 8:37pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 1597
WPP: 128
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Fold pre, shoving is better than calling. Flop minbet says nothing other than opp uses the raise button and doesn't set the amounts. Note he did same pre, and that a lot of players do this.
55 is weak post flop and we're going to war with big stack on the bubble with it. Anyone see a problem here? |
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Posted: Thu, 01 Jan 2009, 10:46pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 09 Aug 2005
Posts: 1829
WPP: 67
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| ya, and I'm one of those types who never think they have the king (always think they have the A though) but folding all streets is the way to go. |
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Posted: Fri, 02 Jan 2009, 9:44am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 24 Mar 2008
Posts: 937
WPP: 138
Location: Cape Town
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| I fold pre-flop here. 55 isn't strong enough to push on the bubble and you can't call for set value. |
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